What is your party affiliation?

[Guest]

I probably already know the numbers to this poll but might as well ask.

Not sure many people will take part in this one though. :(

By the way, I just listed these alphabetically, D becomes before R. ;D

[Guest]

I am a registererd Republician, but I am one those whacky libertarian ones. The hard core right of the party would just like to pretend we don't exist. Right, Ann Coulter?

[Guest]

I'm an illegal alien who just walked across your southern border last month, as the guest of Jamel Ahmed Mohammed Ali Al-Badawi who prepared my paperwork.* I will be voting, thanks to Jamel.* But I can't tell you who I will vote for because I might be discriminated against by your radical right wing element - you know how they are. I do so love your "open borders" policy.

[Guest]

As Groucho Marx so eloquently put it: "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."

"Independent" doesn't quite say it. "Liberated" may be closer to the truth...

[Guest]

It does appear from the early results of this survey that Democrats are much more involved in TV internet dialogue than Republicans - out of proportion to the "overwhelming Republican majority" alleged of TV residents.

What would this observation indicate to you about Democrats or Republicans?

[Guest]

I'm an illegal alien who just walked across your southern border last month, as the guest of Jamel Ahmed Mohammed Ali Al-Badawi who prepared my paperwork. I will be voting, thanks to Jamel. But I can't tell you who I will vote for because I might be discriminated against by your radical right wing element - you know how they are.


Don't worry "Ill-Al," as when you least expect it you will be a guest of the government at "Klub Krome," just west of the Florida Turnpike near Miami. It's a wonderful place - similar to Club Med, and it's sort of like a commune - you get to share facilities with like-thinking folk of various cultural backgrounds.

The "Klubmaster" is a sweet gentlemen in a black robe who will see to it that prior to being provided coach (equivalent) class transportation back to your native land, you get to sample fine cuisine prepared as best as can be provided for a couple bucks a day, and even have the chance to wash your own laundry. You'll even get innoculations for TB and a few other maladies. He'll even inform you that the service you receive - food, lodging and transportation - is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for someone who falsely claims US Citizenship in order to gain a benefit or service.

The next time another kindly soul called the Assistant U.S. Attorney will charge you with a felony and make you the guest of the Bureau of Prisons for 18 months prior to being deported again. A third time will be full sentence (minimum of five years).

So, Ill-Al. Enjoy the opportunity to vote. The experience will be quite "unique"........

[Guest]

Don't worry "Ill-Al," as when you least expect it you will be a guest of the government at "Klub Krome," just west of the Florida Turnpike near Miami. It's a wonderful place - similar to Club Med, and it sort of like a commune - you get to share facilities with like-thinking folk of various cultural backgrounds.

The "Klubmaster" is a sweet gentlemen in a black robe who will see to it that prior to being provided coach (equivalent) class transportation back to your native land, you get to sample fine cuisine prepared as best as can be provided for a couple bucks a day, and even have the chance to wash your own laundry. You'll even get innoculations for TB and a few other maladies. He'll even inform you that the service you receive - food, lodging and transportation - is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for someone who falsely claims US Citizenship in order to gain a benefit or service.

The next time another kindly soul called the Assistant U.S. Attorney will charge you with a felony and make you the guest of the Bureau of Prisons for 18 months prior to being deported again. A third time will be full sentence (minimum of five years).

So, Ill-Al. Enjoy the opportunity to vote. The experience will be quite "unique"........
Oh, but if your Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) could be so effective. But alas, I will join my many brothers without such concerns.

[Guest]

I am affilaited with any party that has fun people and music :bigthumbsup:
I invented the word party ;D
Were you referring to something else??
Handie :joke:

[Guest]

Oh, but if your Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) could be so effective. But alas, I will join my many brothers without such concerns.


I have great respect for ICE as an agency, and the men and women who staff it.

With a total force about the size of the NYPD, ICE has to cover the entire 50 states, all territories and protectorates, provide investigative staff in many of the embassies around the world, manage/operate detention centers around the country ,and physically escort the worst back to their native lands. As all good cops know, ICE agents can't enforce all the laws all the time, but prioritze their efforts and go after the "worst first" and then work their way down the list.

"Immigration" and "Customs" are two distinct missions, so that's a lot of "mission" for the size of force charged to do it.

So, Ill-Al. It's all a game of chance. The more you run the risk, the longer the odds become against you.

[Guest]

Retirement Party?
:2cool:

[Guest]

UUJudy,
Good one. :)

[Guest]

It was my party and I'll cry if I want to.

Boomer

[Guest]

A PARTY??!!! :o WHERE??!! ??? YOU KNOW I'LL BE ROKIN!! :hot: :clap2: 040 :hot: :clap2: 040 :hot: :clap2: 040 :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot:

[Guest]

Party line, party til the sun comes up, party down, where's the party, birthday party, green party, Tupperware party, party bus, dance party, Party of Five, block party, party animal...

Let's just party ya all.....http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh96/renielarson/23_33_121.gif

[Guest]

My granddaughter is afraid of the POTTY!

[Guest]

1rnfl ronda...

my grandson is, too! crap

[Guest]

"Immigration" and "Customs" are two distinct missions, so that's a lot of "mission" for the size of force charged to do it.
What's worse is that it appears that ICE is charged with two OPPOSITE missions:

1) Carrying out the federal mandate of facilitaing the immigration of foreign workers
2) Limiting illegals.

The national priority clearly appears to be number 1.

This reminds me of cities that have the Economic Development function in the same department as planning, permits and code enforcement. It appears to be a clear conflict of interest.

[Guest]

Don't ya just hate POTTY lines? :dontknow:

[Guest]

Don't ya just hate POTTY lines? :dontknow:


Funny. ;D

[Guest]

"It's my party, and I'll cry if I want to..."

Not sure if that's attributable to both Leslie Gore and Hillary Clinton.....

[Guest]

What's worse is that it appears that ICE is charged with two OPPOSITE missions:

1) Carrying out the federal mandate of facilitaing the immigration of foreign workers
2) Limiting illegals.

The national priority clearly appears to be number 1.

This reminds me of cities that have the Economic Development function in the same department as planning, permits and code enforcement. It appears to be a clear conflict of interest.


That's the easy stuff. The hard thing is trying to work within the laws passed by Congress which give multiple agencies the same issuance and enforcement authorities (so one can say yes, and the other say no on the same issue). Today's "Book of Laws" reads like Catch-22.

[Guest]

There are less than eight months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States. The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just Democrats or Republicans.

To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice. It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.

If you support Obama or Hillary, please drive with your headlights ON during the day.

If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights OFF during the night.

[Guest]

[quote=barb1191 ]
There are less than eight months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States. The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just Democrats or Republicans.

To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice. It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.

If you support Obama or Hillary, please drive with your headlights ON during the day.

If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights OFF during the night.





Is this supposed to be funny? It's not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

Livingston,

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Beautifully said! :bigthumbsup:

[Guest]

[quote=barb1191 ]
There are less than eight months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States. The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just Democrats or Republicans.

To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice. It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.

If you support Obama or Hillary, please drive with your headlights ON during the day.

If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights OFF during the night.


Is this supposed to be funny? It's not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There may be some who find this amusing. Obviously you do not, and do I care? NOT Chill.

[Guest]

I don;t see any replies from anyone stating how funny they think it is. Chilled I am!

[Guest]

That little gem is on this site twice. It's not any funnier the second time around.

[Guest]

You will find a prior discussion regarding this joke ??? ??? ??? here:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/smf/index.php/topic,6602.msg54437.html#msg54437

[Guest]

So far on TOTV I've seen "jokes" and commentary regarding:

1. Political parties - members are smart, dumb, insightful, blind, etc.
2. Candidates - attacking or ridiculing their personal beliefs, their ages, occasional errors during speeches
3. Religion in general - demeaning others' beliefs, ceremonies, attitudes
4. Gender - linking hair color, age, and [the list is too long....] to silliness
5. Ethnicity - linking [the list is too long....] groups to dumb acts

I guess "humor" spans the gamut, and what some (usually not of the referenced persuasion) consider "funny" is despicable to others (usually of the referenced persuasion). The aggrieved are usually expected to "get over it," especially regarding # 3, 4 and 5 above.

It's also peculiar that what passes so often as "humor" when delivered by a non-candidate would be tantamount to heresy should any candidate whisper anything similar, with the rope, tar and feathers coming from most quarters.

I guess the conduct and deportment standards we require of the candidates in the public arena (which appears to be anywhere in earshot) are radically different than what we place upon "ourselves" in forums like TOTV - and should that be so???

[Guest]

Always Ind. changed to a Rep.8 yrs.ago,now back to an Ind. and will vote for Obama!

[Guest]

Was a Republican for many years. Then became an Independent. Now I consider myself an Independent but am registered as a Democrat so I can vote in the Primaries. I will vote for Obama.

[Guest]

Was a Republican for many years. Then became an Independent. Now I consider myself an Independent but am registered as a Democrat so I can vote in the Primaries. I will vote for Obama.
I think there will be alot of Rep. changing this yr to vote for Obama. No more Clinton's! ::) PULLEASE!!!

[Guest]

In the end, whether it is Sen. Obama or Sen. McCain, the "change" will be the 8,500 political appointees who will get jobs on a noncompetitive basis within the first 180 days of the new administration (see http://www.gpoaccess.gov/plumbook/index.html). Historically, those who worked the hardest at the campaign, regardless if that was at a senior level or rang doorbells, will get the bulwark of these jobs. The prayer is that some might actually have some technical competencE, and not just be the latest to receive titles for services rendered.

Republicans and Democrats alike do the same. Just check the past editions of the Plum Book to verify that.

So, the "change" promised by either candidate is totally dependent on who is owed what during the campaign, the "reward" to be granted, and if the awardee REALLY can do the work or is receiving "welfare with dignity."

I know this sound cynical, but the way it is, is the way it is. Five minutes of research can verify all of this. That's why the backers of a candidate are so important, as they don't back - wheher By financial contribution, labor or reputational endorsement - for free. It's an "I pay now, and you'll pay later with interest" situation.

So, all the charisma, hype, promises, image and all is pure salesmanship to sway a vote, UNLESS there is real substance to back it up. That's why the substance is so important to me. Old salesmen know that you sell the sizzle, not the steak - so, "Where's the Beef?"

[Guest]

I don't disagree that patronage jobs are a way of life. People generally are rewarded with a job depending on their input to the campaign. However, from what I've observed, policy changes are set at the top, and that's what I as a voter hope to accomplish with my vote.

[Guest]

Is the "top" a 4-year monarch, or that cast of hundreds who will fill the cabinet posts, the agencies within each Department, and the independent agencies which report to the White House? Just the Head, Deputy and Chief of Staff for each of these entities is a serious number. Span-of-control principles make it impossible for the Chief Executive to really know what's going on at the policy level within each of these operations, and a macro "let's make it better" doesn't do much if anything at all. It's the lower-tier decisions which really run things.

[Guest]

They may be running things, but ultimately they answer to the top. For example, if the head of an organization says that the organization will be affirmative action friendly, and all decisions in that regard must be referred to the top, it will happen. Of course the President will not know every single policy decision in every agency, (hopefully no one is that much of a micromanager) but the tone of the administrattion will be set, and those that don't fit in or respect that tone face the possiblity of losing their job, being reprimanded, or being mis-assigned. At least that's the way it works at state level in NYS. I would assume federal isn't any different.

[Guest]

George Washington hoped we would not resort to a party system. He felt you should stand for your own beliefs instead of a party platform. He also thought a party system would cause gridlock. Oh well................

[Guest]

..... but the tone of the administrattion will be set, and those that don't fit in or respect that tone face the possiblity of losing their job, being reprimanded, or being mis-assigned. At least that's the way it works at state level in NYS. I would assume federal isn't any different.


It is different. There's too much grandstanding and photo-opping, matched with too many public opinion polls. The one's who got the President elected wield a lot of power, especially when they get their title. No one who heads a Department or major agency (including deputies and chiefs of staf fis ever fired, because that just makes the party look bad. It's been the same with ALL administrations. Those who head Departments can't even fire those under them organizationally (the agency heads) because as a Presidentially-selected Senatorially-confirmed appointee, they are all equal to the White House, AND KNOW IT! Occasionally someone "takes one for the team" as the FEMA head did during Katrina, but that's abouot all that happens.

That's why the Plum Book is so important. The President is someone who got the job because a lot of people paid for him to get it - or so it seems sometimes, especially to the big-money contributors. An independent-thinking and acting president - one who does not bow towards the building which houses that party's National Committee Headquarters - is a myth.

[Guest]

Was a Republican for many years. Then became an Independent. Now I consider myself an Independent but am registered as a Democrat so I can vote in the Primaries. I will vote for Obama.


ME TOO :agree:

[Guest]

I am a lifelong Republican that will be voting for Obama. He has talked the talk, now he'd better walk the walk or the country's rednecks will be in an even greater state of outrage.
Wow..was that politically incorrect...but true. I have heard many of them spouting off and the rhetoric I hear frightens me.

[Guest]

Me too :)

[Guest]

Samhass, your are as smart as you are purty! :bigthumbsup: Way to go girlfriend!

[Guest]

I aspire to a part of the Retirement Party....

Was a Democrat, voted for Reagan..guess that makes me a Reagan Democrat, now Independent.

Can't vote for Obama.....Can't take 100 years of war McCain....