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dp000
04-29-2015, 10:56 AM
5 wild pigs are in the neighborhood, today. They are tearing up yards. Nothing gets rid of them...chasing, sticks, etc. They come right back. Anybody out there know someone who traps them and takes them away? We were told that a trapper will come,but you have to pay for it. Other solutions?

Cisco Kid
04-29-2015, 11:01 AM
You're not going to like other solutions

CFrance
04-29-2015, 11:04 AM
You're not going to like other solutions
Well. You might, if you have a grill...

N44125
04-29-2015, 11:06 AM
Which neighborhood?

Cisco Kid
04-29-2015, 11:15 AM
Do pigs poop? And who picks it up?

CFrance
04-29-2015, 11:16 AM
Do pigs poop? And who picks it up?
Yes, they poop after dark and then leave it to be blamed on the neighborhood dog walkers.

tomwed
04-29-2015, 11:21 AM
I would call Pelican/Heron exec course. Just last week they had someone round up the little wild pigs on the course. They may have hired someone or it may be an inside job and somebody will squeal.

Sandtrap328
04-29-2015, 11:23 AM
Is your neighborhood one down near Pelican or Heron golf courses? I have seen wild piglets over there.

No reason that The Villages would pay for trapping them. The pigs come over (or came over) from Lake Miona wetlands and are now part of the wildlife in The Villages. As long as they have not hurt people, they are like any other wildlife here like snakes, coyotes, bobcats, etc.

Of course, you could always contact The Villages Administrative Office and make your case for having The Villages reimburse your neighborhood for the pig trapping.

Barefoot
04-29-2015, 11:40 AM
5 wild pigs are in the neighborhood, today. They are tearing up yards. Nothing gets rid of them...chasing, sticks, etc. They come right back. Anybody out there know someone who traps them and takes them away? We were told that a trapper will come,but you have to pay for it. Other solutions?

Please tell us -- what neighborhood??
If you're in the area of the Heron/Pelican golf courses, they recently got rid of piglets.
Perhaps they just chased them out into surrounding neighborhoods? :evil6: If so, chase 'em back!

Cisco Kid
04-29-2015, 11:51 AM
Facebook says Arbor Trail. Sunset pointe
Just a repost note

Kannon451
04-29-2015, 12:02 PM
Is your neighborhood one down near Pelican or Heron golf courses? I have seen wild piglets over there.

No reason that The Villages would pay for trapping them. The pigs come over (or came over) from Lake Miona wetlands and are now part of the wildlife in The Villages. As long as they have not hurt people, they are like any other wildlife here like snakes, coyotes, bobcats, etc.

Of course, you could always contact The Villages Administrative Office and make your case for having The Villages reimburse your neighborhood for the pig trapping.
It's easy to be cavalier about ferrel pigs until they are tearing up your yard. I suspect your attitude would change. Also, these animals are not indigenous to the U.S., let alone FL. Given your rational, if someone were let a heard of elephants loose in The Villages, they would become part of the local wildlife and nothing could be done about it.

Bogie Shooter
04-29-2015, 12:03 PM
5 wild pigs are in the neighborhood, today. They are tearing up yards. Nothing gets rid of them...chasing, sticks, etc. They come right back. Anybody out there know someone who traps them and takes them away? We were told that a trapper will come,but you have to pay for it. Other solutions?

You can start by calling Sumter County Animal Services.
Animal Services strives to protect people and property from the dangers of roaming, uncontrolled animals as well as protect pets from the dangers of the wild and our busy streets and highways.

What is Considered Nuisance Wildlife?
Florida Fish and Wildlife Commision (FWC) defines nuisance wildlife as wildlife that causes (or is about to cause) property damage, presents a threat to public safety, or causes an annoyance within, under, or upon a building.

Animal Services
Email - animalcontrol@sumtercountyfl.gov

819 CR 529
Lake Panasoffkee, FL 33538

Ph: 352-569-1960
Fx: 352-569-1961

Hours
Monday - Friday
9 a.m. - 5 p.m.

dp000
04-29-2015, 12:23 PM
Thank you for the info, Bogie Shooter. Yes...Sunset Pointe...several streets that are near Heron and Pelican. The pigs keep moving from yard to yard. Very damaging to yards, because they are "diggers". Community Watch has been out all morning, but they just sit in their vehicles and watch the pigs digging. Then, when the pigs go to a different yard or street, they just follow them and keep watching. We only saw one man get out of his truck to take pictures. One watch ed the 5 pigs tearing up a yard, and he didn't even try to get them to leave the yard. They aren't vicious...you can walk right up to them.

Bruiser1
04-30-2015, 09:21 AM
Thank you for the info, Bogie Shooter. Yes...Sunset Pointe...several streets that are near Heron and Pelican. The pigs keep moving from yard to yard. Very damaging to yards, because they are "diggers". Community Watch has been out all morning, but they just sit in their vehicles and watch the pigs digging. Then, when the pigs go to a different yard or street, they just follow them and keep watching. We only saw one man get out of his truck to take pictures. One watch ed the 5 pigs tearing up a yard, and he didn't even try to get them to leave the yard. They aren't vicious...you can walk right up to them.

Well it is called COMMUNITY WATCH!

NavyNJ
04-30-2015, 11:31 AM
You can start by calling Sumter County Animal Services.
Animal Services strives to protect people and property from the dangers of roaming, uncontrolled animals as well as protect pets from the dangers of the wild and our busy streets and highways.

What is Considered Nuisance Wildlife?
Florida Fish and Wildlife Commision (FWC) defines nuisance wildlife as wildlife that causes (or is about to cause) property damage, presents a threat to public safety, or causes an annoyance within, under, or upon a building.

Animal Services
Email - animalcontrol@sumtercountyfl.gov

819 CR 529
Lake Panasoffkee, FL 33538

Ph: 352-569-1960
Fx: 352-569-1961

Hours
Monday - Friday
9 a.m. - 5 p.m.

Or....if you'd care to take a more "active" approach, you can grab a box or two of the ammo at the link below in your favorite caliber (I'm an AR-15 fan, so the .223 would be my choice!) and go to work - so long as these fellas are on your property, or you have the property owner's permission of the lot they're running around on. Here's a blurb from the Fla. Fish & Wildlife web site that gives guidance:

Hunting
"Wild pigs are legally defined as wildlife and are the second-most popular, large animal hunted in Florida (second only to the white-tailed deer).
On private property with landowner permission, wild pigs may be trapped and hunted year round using any legal to own rifle, shotgun, crossbow, bow or pistol. There is no size or bag limit, and you may harvest either sex. Also, no hunting license is required. A gun and light at night permit is not required to take wild hogs with a gun and light on private lands with landowner permission.
"

Wild Boar Ammo Choices (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winchester-reg-Razor-Boar-XT-Rifle-Ammunition/1353573.uts)

llaran
04-30-2015, 12:06 PM
you may have to use a bow and arrow, I don't think you can leaglly use a gun in a populated area. A dog maybe a better answer, Alapaha blue blood Bulldogs wee bread to hunt wild boar. the Alapaha river is near the FL Ga line.

Sandtrap328
04-30-2015, 12:27 PM
The shooting of ANYTHING on your lot in The Villages will certainly get you some one-on-one time with the Sumter County Sheriff(if you are in Sumter County, which is where the pigs are). Discharging a firearm in a populated community is against the law.

Hire the trapper. Split the cost between the affected homeowners.

Have you contacted The Villages Administration about this problem or just posting on TOTV?

Miles42
04-30-2015, 10:18 PM
Cross Bow???

dirtbanker
05-01-2015, 08:23 AM
The shooting of ANYTHING on your lot in The Villages will certainly get you some one-on-one time with the Sumter County Sheriff(if you are in Sumter County, which is where the pigs are). Discharging a firearm in a populated community is against the law.


Really?? Florida Law Statue 790.15 says otherwise...

Quoted From The Herald Tribune:
The only rules in Florida to discharging firearms on residential property are that you can’t fire over a right-of-way of any paved public road, highway or street, you can’t fire over any occupied dwelling and you can’t fire recklessly or negligently.
Because violation of the statute is only a first-degree misdemeanor, Ramsay said an officer would have to personally witness the recklessness or negligence to make an arrest at the scene. (The offense is punishable by a maximum fine of $1,000 and maximum jail time of a year.)

Florida Law Statute 790.15, Allows Backyard Shooting Ranges | Expose And Penalize Leon County And Tallahassee’s Unconstitutional Crooked Officials (Ex. Mary Ann Lindley) That Violate Your 2nd Amendment Gun Rights! | The Tallahassee O (http://tallahasseeo.com/2014/02/02/florida-law-statute-790-15-allows-backyard-shooting-ranges-expose-leon-county-and-tallahassees-unconstitutional-crooked-officials-that-violate-your-2nd-amendment-gun-rights/)

dirtbanker
05-01-2015, 08:30 AM
Or....if you'd care to take a more "active" approach, you can grab a box or two of the ammo at the link below in your favorite caliber (I'm an AR-15 fan, so the .223 would be my choice!) and go to work

If you like that ar15 in 223, You would love my AR 10 in 243 caliber! Can get ammo as light as 55 grain and as heavy as 105 grain (100 grain works well on hogs). Fast and flat trajectory!

.243 Winchester - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.243_Winchester)

dbussone
05-01-2015, 08:44 AM
Dirtbanker is quite correct. One can shoot (must be in accordance with the applicable state law) in his or her yard per the law he sites. Here is a small piece of a long article:
But in 2011, backed by the National Rifle Association, the Republican-led state Legislature put more teeth into the state law, creating penalties for local lawmakers who violate it. Gov. Rick Scott signed the law that now makes anyone who creates or upholds local gun ordinances subject to fines of up to $5,000. They also can be removed from office and forced to pay their own legal bills if sued over local gun ordinances.
Once the 2011 law took effect, Florida Carry, a nonprofit, gun-rights organization, began systematically going after any municipality that had not already put a bullet into its local gun ordinances.

Palm Beach County sued the state to keep its gun laws, but the courts upheld the Legislature’s authority.

tuccillo
05-01-2015, 08:46 AM
In our previous community in GA, we had some feral pig issues - a fair amount of damage to landscaping. The HOA hired someone to trap them. I am not sure if the trapping was successful or they moved on but the problem did go away. No guns were fired as that was illegal in our area.

The shooting of ANYTHING on your lot in The Villages will certainly get you some one-on-one time with the Sumter County Sheriff(if you are in Sumter County, which is where the pigs are). Discharging a firearm in a populated community is against the law.

Hire the trapper. Split the cost between the affected homeowners.

Have you contacted The Villages Administration about this problem or just posting on TOTV?

Barefoot
05-01-2015, 10:43 AM
Really?? Florida Law Statue 790.15 says otherwise...
Quoted From The Herald Tribune:
The only rules in Florida to discharging firearms on residential property are that you can’t fire over a right-of-way of any paved public road, highway or street, you can’t fire over any occupied dwelling and you can’t fire recklessly or negligently. Because violation of the statute is only a first-degree misdemeanor, Ramsay said an officer would have to personally witness the recklessness or negligence to make an arrest at the scene. (The offense is punishable by a maximum fine of $1,000 and maximum jail time of a year.)

Please don't even put the idea in anyone's head that it would be OK to hunt pigs on a 50 x 100 foot lot. :22yikes:

dbussone
05-01-2015, 10:52 AM
Please don't even put the idea in anyone's head that it would be OK to hunt pigs on a 50 x 100 foot lot. :22yikes:

With a two foot offset, no less. The house behind us is about 20 feet away.

CFrance
05-01-2015, 11:02 AM
Please don't even put the idea in anyone's head that it would be OK to hunt pigs on a 50 x 100 foot lot. :22yikes:

With a two foot offset, no less. The house behind us is about 20 feet away.
It's too late! Fur sure somebody's loading up even as we speak.

NavyNJ
05-01-2015, 11:18 AM
The shooting of ANYTHING on your lot in The Villages will certainly get you some one-on-one time with the Sumter County Sheriff(if you are in Sumter County, which is where the pigs are). Discharging a firearm in a populated community is against the law.

Hire the trapper. Split the cost between the affected homeowners.

Have you contacted The Villages Administration about this problem or just posting on TOTV?

Sandtrap: Not picking a fight here, just looking at Fla. laws and making some observations. In Fla., it is only the State that can legislate any aspect of firearms regulations or laws - thus, no County, City, Town or other jurisdiction may attempt to enact any "local" law or ordnance related to firearms or their use.

Specifically, Fla. statute, Sec. 790.15, reads as follows re: using firearms:
"790.15 Discharging firearm in public or on residential property.—
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2) or subsection (3), any person who knowingly discharges a firearm in any public place or on the right-of-way of any paved public road, highway, or street, who knowingly discharges any firearm over the right-of-way of any paved public road, highway, or street or over any occupied premises, or who recklessly or negligently discharges a firearm outdoors on any property used primarily as the site of a dwelling as defined in s. 776.013 or zoned exclusively for residential use commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083."

I believe it is the bolded passage that could generate a discussion with local LE officials, and quite possible a misdemeanor summons. However, that phrase does leave quite a bit to interpretation as well. So long as I plug the varmint while it's in my yard, and don't shoot over my neighbor's house (as in "when pigs fly" lol), I may be within the law. Or not....certainly not on my list of things to try and test!! :)

NoMoSno
05-01-2015, 11:52 AM
I asked the sheriff, he said it was legal in FL, following the above laws.
Not that I would advise it, or attempt it myself.......

NavyNJ
05-01-2015, 12:13 PM
I asked the sheriff, he said it was legal in FL, following the above laws.
Not that I would advise it, or attempt it myself.......

NoMoSno - Agree. I also knew it was "legal" to do it, but also agree with you that just cause you "can" do something, doesn't always mean you "should". Although, having plugged a wild turkey in my backyard up here in NJ a few years back, I'd sure be tempted to bag one or more of those pesky feral pigs and find a local farmer to smoke up some bacon & sausage for me!! :)

Bogie Shooter
05-01-2015, 12:20 PM
Dirtbanker is quite correct. One can shoot (must be in accordance with the applicable state law) in his or her yard per the law he sites. Here is a small piece of a long article:
But in 2011, backed by the National Rifle Association, the Republican-led state Legislature put more teeth into the state law, creating penalties for local lawmakers who violate it. Gov. Rick Scott signed the law that now makes anyone who creates or upholds local gun ordinances subject to fines of up to $5,000. They also can be removed from office and forced to pay their own legal bills if sued over local gun ordinances.
Once the 2011 law took effect, Florida Carry, a nonprofit, gun-rights organization, began systematically going after any municipality that had not already put a bullet into its local gun ordinances.

Palm Beach County sued the state to keep its gun laws, but the courts upheld the Legislature’s authority.

The NRA has a permanent chair in the state legislature.......................

Bogie Shooter
05-01-2015, 12:22 PM
I asked the sheriff, he said it was legal in FL, following the above laws.
Not that I would advise it, or attempt it myself.......

Did you also ask him if he agreed with the law?

CFrance
05-01-2015, 01:48 PM
The NRA has a permanent chair in the state legislature.......................
I'm stunned...

dbussone
05-01-2015, 02:26 PM
I'm stunned...

I'm not. A chair does not equal a legislative vote. The NRA has a very strong lobby here. In, fact a woman named Marion Hammer is the NRA's very strong voice in FL. She is a former NRA president I believe.

CFrance
05-01-2015, 02:30 PM
I'm not. A chair does not equal a legislative vote. The NRA has a very strong lobby here. In, fact a woman named Marion Hammer is the NRA's very strong voice in FL. She is a former NRA president I believe.
I was being facetious.

dbussone
05-01-2015, 02:31 PM
I was being facetious.

Now you tell me?

dbussone
05-01-2015, 02:40 PM
Can' we all just....

http://i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/1280175796/coexist_guns_bumper_sticker.jpg?height=250&width=250&padToSquare=true

NavyNJ
05-01-2015, 03:21 PM
If you like that ar15 in 223, You would love my AR 10 in 243 caliber! Can get ammo as light as 55 grain and as heavy as 105 grain (100 grain works well on hogs). Fast and flat trajectory!

.243 Winchester - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.243_Winchester)

Nice choice! Haven't ever shot that caliber/round before, but do also like the AR-10 platform. In fact, am toying with getting an AK"X" kit, most likely something Eastern European, to build my own AK - once I finish my AR build. Wild/Feral Hogs are a good way to spend a day and actually have something to show for it. Need to find someone in TV area who can dress out and prepare the meat (incl. smoking). As always.....shoot safe & shoot straight!! Aim small - miss small. :)

NoMoSno
05-01-2015, 03:25 PM
Did you also ask him if he agreed with the law?

Yes, and he does.

NavyNJ
05-01-2015, 03:32 PM
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter:
Did you also ask him if he agreed with the law?

Originally Posted by NoMoSno:
Yes, and he does.

Actually, matters not if he agrees or not. Just needs to properly apply it. But him agreeing with it sure makes things less tense! :)

Topspinmo
05-01-2015, 03:34 PM
Cross Bow???

Stun gun?

CFrance
05-01-2015, 05:00 PM
Now you tell me?
You're so funny!:wave:

Barefoot
05-01-2015, 05:17 PM
It's too late! Fur sure somebody's loading up even as we speak.

Remember the threads where someone wakes up to loud noises and wonders what the heck is going on?
Now we will know the answer. The next-door neighbor is piglet hunting in his back yard. :shocked:

dbussone
05-01-2015, 05:20 PM
Remember the threads where someone wakes up to loud noises and wonders what the heck is going on?
Now we will know the answer. The next-door neighbor is piglet hunting in his back yard. :shocked:

Makes for a wonderful pig roast. Yes?

Barefoot
05-01-2015, 05:24 PM
***

dbussone
05-01-2015, 05:28 PM
As long as he doesn't miss and shoot the neighbor's dog by mistake. :22yikes:///

Barefoot
05-01-2015, 05:35 PM
Oh Whoops, you're right. I've deleted my post, now you have to delete the one where you referenced my post.
We don't want to open Pandora's box. and start another :doggie: *** discussion.

ricthemic
05-01-2015, 05:35 PM
Another hypothetical:
If five or six of the neighbors got together one night and shot the five pigs. Then collectively decided to clam up to all authorities.... um sort of like chopping down $50,000 worth of trees.
Seriously sorry these wild animals are digging up your property.

dbussone
05-01-2015, 05:50 PM
Oh Whoops, you're right. I've deleted my post, now you have to delete the one where you referenced my post.
We don't want to open Pandora's box. and start another :doggie: *** discussion.

Ok. Your turn to delete now.

snowbird22154
05-01-2015, 09:59 PM
I just bought a new "Red Dot" scope for my AR-15 and all I need is a call and I'll end your problem!! :mmmm:


Or....if you'd care to take a more "active" approach, you can grab a box or two of the ammo at the link below in your favorite caliber (I'm an AR-15 fan, so the .223 would be my choice!) and go to work - so long as these fellas are on your property, or you have the property owner's permission of the lot they're running around on. Here's a blurb from the Fla. Fish & Wildlife web site that gives guidance:

Hunting
"Wild pigs are legally defined as wildlife and are the second-most popular, large animal hunted in Florida (second only to the white-tailed deer).
On private property with landowner permission, wild pigs may be trapped and hunted year round using any legal to own rifle, shotgun, crossbow, bow or pistol. There is no size or bag limit, and you may harvest either sex. Also, no hunting license is required. A gun and light at night permit is not required to take wild hogs with a gun and light on private lands with landowner permission.
"

Wild Boar Ammo Choices (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winchester-reg-Razor-Boar-XT-Rifle-Ammunition/1353573.uts)

kcrazorbackfan
05-02-2015, 06:03 AM
So, if I brought out the "Desert Eagle" .50 cal., do you think that would get the job done? Everyone in the neighborhood and surrounding areas would probably hear it.

Chi-Town
05-02-2015, 06:41 AM
So, if I brought out the "Desert Eagle" .50 cal., do you think that would get the job done? Everyone in the neighborhood and surrounding areas would probably hear it.
Lengthen the barrel and put on a scope. That should get the job done.

50954

outlaw
05-02-2015, 07:03 AM
This is what happens when you open the villages up to under 55 pigs...

looneycat
05-02-2015, 07:32 AM
sniff, sniff.....I smell bacon....

dp000
05-03-2015, 12:12 PM
Ending to this original post...a trapper came, killed 4 of the 5. One got away. My husband and I had hoped the "trapper" would "trap" them and relocate them, rather than killing them! However, the person who called the trapper requested they be killed.
So...unless the 5th one was later "trapped" or killed, he is still running around.
Thanks for all of your good advice.