Church or Performing Arts Center

[newguyintv]

Now that the Church on the Square is no more and has been transformed into the "Sharon", a performing arts center, is it appropriate that several of the outside pinnacles of the building continue to display a "Crucifix" or "Cross" now that the building has been converted from a religious sanctuary to a performing arts center?

[TheVillageChicken]

I would like to register my strong indifference on this matter.

[perrjojo]

I would like to register my strong indifference on this matter.
Some people wear a crusifix around their neck. Does that make them a church?

[dbussone]

Now that the Church on the Square is no more and has been transformed into the "Sharon", a performing arts center, is it appropriate that several of the outside pinnacles of the building continue to display a "Crucifix" or "Cross" now that the building has been converted from a religious sanctuary to a performing arts center?

Those are part of the character of the building. I'd vote for leaving them alone. Who finds them offensive? Or architecturally distasteful? Thank goodness we don't get to vote on this issue

[newguyintv]

Some people wear a crusifix around their neck. Does that make them a church?

Probably means they are Christian. Are you saying there is no difference between people and their individual beliefs and buildings? A poor analogy at best!

[billethkid]

It is a non issue for the majority of us.
However if it became an issue let us hope it is put to a vote so the majority can have its say.

[dbussone]

It is a non issue for the majority of us.
However if it became an issue let us hope it is put to a vote so the majority can have its say.

That will be a slippery slope!

[graciegirl]

I am so glad I was born when I was born.

[graciegirl]

Now that the Church on the Square is no more and has been transformed into the "Sharon", a performing arts center, is it appropriate that several of the outside pinnacles of the building continue to display a "Crucifix" or "Cross" now that the building has been converted from a religious sanctuary to a performing arts center?

Think of all of the activities that happen at the YMCA.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+ymca&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=E885664F1A17EDFDA170E885664F1A17EDFDA170

[Bogie Shooter]

How do you feel about "Merry Christmas"?

[dbussone]

How do you feel about "Merry Christmas"?

Wonderful. My favorite movie is White Christmas with Bing Crosby and the gang. I'm on my third copy - don't let anyone tell you that my tears have ruined at least one. I really didn't say that. If you repeat it I may have to cover your house in oatmeal.

[sunnyatlast]

Now that the Church on the Square is no more and has been transformed into the "Sharon", a performing arts center, is it appropriate that several of the outside pinnacles of the building continue to display a "Crucifix" or "Cross" now that the building has been converted from a religious sanctuary to a performing arts center?

Full Definition of FACADE

1
: the front of a building; also : any face of a building given special architectural treatment <a museum's east facade>

2
: a false, superficial, or artificial appearance or effect

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[dbussone]

I would like to register my strong indifference on this matter.

Like TVC said.

[justjim]

The Church on the Square was used for many "things" besides a religious worship center. Its their building so what (we) think or feel about a cross on top really is not significant. It's a nonissue.

[joldnol]

was it ever used as a church?

[tomwed]

Were their church services in the building? Could you get married there?

[Barefoot]

was it ever used as a church?

For many years, The Church on the Square was used for services on Sunday mornings.
Pastors of various religions in the area would take turns officiating.

[pqrstar]

Were their church services in the building? Could you get married there?

Yes, to both questions

Here are some photos of a wedding which took place in The Church on The Square. (scroll down all the way to see interior shots. -- very beautiful)

Church on the Square Wedding :: Nicole and Michael | The Villages Wedding Photographer » Gainesville Wedding, Newborn and Boudoir Photography (http://blog.sweetserendipityphotography.com/2011/06/church-on-the-square-wedding-nicole-and-michael-the-villages-wedding-photographer/)

[justjim]

The Village Voices performed at The Church on the Square (non-denomination) for several years as well as many other performers.

[chachacha]

everything about the squares is "made up" as far as history is concerned, such as the old labels on the various buildings, so it would be natural for a spanish village to have a church building....for those of us who remember enjoying many nice performances there, it does not make a difference that it still looks like a church...i for one like it.

[dotti105]

chachacha is right. Remember that Spanish Springs was built to look like an old Spanish settlement. Complete with a town square, a hotel (Van Patton House aka Katie Belle's), Taverns (McCalls), and as any old Spanish square, it would not be complete with out a church on the square. This is "Disney-esque" with stories and folklore that you can see on he small signs scattered throughout Spanish Springs. The "Hotel" never was a hotel, but added to the overall atmosphere.

I think the same of the Church on the Square. It has been used for worship services, but now it's function has changed. But it remains "the church on the square" to provide the old town feeling.

Like any change, some people are happy about the change in it's function, others are not. The only sure thing in life is change. Gotta go with the flow.

"The Sharon" looks fabulous and still completes it's function as the "Church on the square", by providing the beautiful Spanish detail.

[graciegirl]

Yes, to both questions

Here are some photos of a wedding which took place in The Church on The Square. (scroll down all the way to see interior shots. -- very beautiful)

Church on the Square Wedding :: Nicole and Michael | The Villages Wedding Photographer » Gainesville Wedding, Newborn and Boudoir Photography (http://blog.sweetserendipityphotography.com/2011/06/church-on-the-square-wedding-nicole-and-michael-the-villages-wedding-photographer/)


Lovely! Are they Villagers? I am thinking the young men might be sons? Handsome!

[Taltarzac725]

I doubt if God cares. I can and do get religious feelings mostly outside seeing God's marvels in a sunset or mountain.

SN0301: Church Buildings (http://www.servantsnews.com/sn0301/churchb.htm)

I love the great cathedrals of Europe but these more often than not reflect the hubris of the Kings and Queens who fought wars to build them.

[JoMar]

Lovely! Are they Villagers? I am thinking the young men might be sons? Handsome!

Boudoir Photography.....hmmmmmm

[Taltarzac725]

Boudoir Photography.....hmmmmmm

For the wedding night, I suppose.

[graciegirl]

Boudoir Photography.....hmmmmmm


I am really puzzled about that title. I am so behind what is going on sometimes.

But it made my ears perk up.

I may be too old to understand.

[TheVillageChicken]

I am really puzzled about that title. I am so behind what is going on sometimes.

But it made my ears perk up.

I may be too old to understand.

You made me Google, and in doing so, made me once again give thanks for being old and nearly done.


So, what is boudoir photography exactly?

Boudoir photography is a sexy new trend that's especially popular as a wedding day gift from a bride to her groom . Boudoir photos are usually taken wearing either just a little, or well, nothing at all. They're hardly X-rated though, but rather PG-13 -- as in classic pinup-inspired pics, or what the pros call 'implied nudes.' That means you're not wearing anything, but you're also not showing off anything either (think shot from the back, or lying on your stomach).

[JoMar]

Well he should get a lot of that business here.....:)

[newguyintv]

Well he should get a lot of that business here.....:)

Perhaps the Moderator should get you people back on the subject of thread or cancel it. I didn't start it to see all this jiberish; just wanted to know why the Performing Arts Center has a Crucifix on top of the building.

[Bogie Shooter]

Wonderful. My favorite movie is White Christmas with Bing Crosby and the gang. I'm on my third copy - don't let anyone tell you that my tears have ruined at least one. I really didn't say that. If you repeat it I may have to cover your house in oatmeal.

Guess I should have clarified who that was for, however, if I had it would have been deleted!

[Bogie Shooter]

Perhaps the Moderator should get you people back on the subject of thread or cancel it. I didn't start it to see all this jiberish; just wanted to know why the Performing Arts Center has a Crucifix on top of the building.

:boom:

[DougB]

Perhaps the Moderator should get you people back on the subject of thread or cancel it. I didn't start it to see all this jiberish; just wanted to know why the Performing Arts Center has a Crucifix on top of the building.

The Crucifix is there because the Morses want it there. It's their building. There, you have your answer.
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[TheVillageChicken]

The Crucifix is there because the Morses want it there. It's their building. There, you have your answer.
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OK, you went to size 5 font and bold faced it. Thread still open. Try clicking you heels together three times and saying, "There's no place like home."

[DougB]

OK, you went to size 5 font and bold faced it. Thread still open. Try clicking you heels together three times and saying, "There's no place like home."

:1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

[newguyintv]

The Crucifix is there because the Morses want it there. It's their building. There, you have your answer.
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Brilliant conclusion!!!! But wait, should a building, even the Morse's building have a cross atop it if it's not a church. The movie theater is also theirs; no cross. The La Raeina Building is theirs; no cross, etc., etc.,etc.

[memason]

Some people obsess about the strangest things

[Bogie Shooter]

Such a waste of energy......................

[Taltarzac725]

Brilliant conclusion!!!! But wait, should a building, even the Morse's building have a cross atop it if it's not a church. The movie theater is also theirs; no cross. The La Raeina Building is theirs; no cross, etc., etc.,etc.

Would like to see more non-religious buildings with crosses on them here in the Villages. Especially if it fits in with the style of the building as with the Sharon.

[CFrance]

The movie theater could have a cross on it too if the Morse's want. It could have an elephant statue on it; it's their property. You can bellyache if you want, but in the end you don't get a say.

[Challenger]

If it is a government owned building, Crosses(nor any other religious symbols) should be displayed, except in a very few special situations. If it is a privately owned building, it is up to the owner, also except for a few special instances( architectual regualtions etc)

In the case of private buildings, we have complete freedom to not enter the building,(boycott if you will) but not to infringe on the owners statutory property rights.

just my strongly held opinion (if anyone cares)

[DonH57]

I never really thought about whether the building has the religious symbols, stained glass or whatever left on them or whether or not it may be still used for religious purposes. It could still be used for christenings, weddings, receptions, or any thing else for that matter. I have more pressing issues like staying alive on the cart paths.

[Buffalo Jim]

It`s going to become very ugly very quickly when the day comes that the Developer goes away and leaves the community to " The Tyranny of the Minority " .

[DougB]

If it is a government owned building, Crosses(nor any other religious symbols) should be displayed, except in a very few special situations. If it is a privately owned building, it is up to the owner, also except for a few special instances( architectual regualtions etc)

In the case of private buildings, we have complete freedom to not enter the building,(boycott if you will) but not to infringe on the owners statutory property rights.

just my strongly held opinion (if anyone cares)

Our Pledge mentions one nation under God, our money says in God we trust. I have no problem with a cross on a government building.

[Barefoot]

Perhaps the Moderator should get you people back on the subject of thread or cancel it. I didn't start it to see all this jiberish; just wanted to know why the Performing Arts Center has a Crucifix on top of the building.

What is gibberish to some is entertaining to others. :popcorn:

[2BNTV]

Perhaps the Moderator should get you people back on the subject of thread or cancel it. I didn't start it to see all this jiberish; just wanted to know why the Performing Arts Center has a Crucifix on top of the building.

It was a church originally. My guess is the Morse family didn't want the added expense to remove it!!!

Nothing more, nothing less.

[tomwed]

It was a church originally. My guess is the Morse family didn't want the added expense to remove it!!!

Nothing more, nothing less.
Before the square was built, the building was a church? Do you remember anything else about the site?

[JoMar]

It`s going to become very ugly very quickly when the day comes that the Developer goes away and leaves the community to " The Tyranny of the Minority " .

Why would the Developer go away from the Commercial properties? That's his revenue stream. Do you know of any other Developer that turns commercial properties over to your "Tyranny of the Minority"

[Mikeod]

It was a church originally. My guess is the Morse family didn't want the added expense to remove it!!!

Nothing more, nothing less.
The building was not built to be a church. It was designed, along with the rest of the buildings in Spanish Springs, to create the impression of an old Spanish settlement which always had a "Church on the Square". While it hosted religious services by a various groups, it also functioned as a concert hall and meeting place, among other things. This was never a consecrated church.

The crucifix is an architectural adornment. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[Challenger]

Our Pledge mentions one nation under God, our money says in God we trust. I have no problem with a cross on a government building.

Neither of the "phrases" that you mention were on the money nor in the pledge until 1954 and 56 respectively.

[TheVillageChicken]

The building was not built to be a church. It was designed, along with the rest of the buildings in Spanish Springs, to create the impression of an old Spanish settlement which always had a "Church on the Square". While it hosted religious services by a various groups, it also functioned as a concert hall and meeting place, among other things. This was never a consecrated church.

The crucifix is an architectural adornment. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Bingo. That was no more a church than the lighthouse at LSL is a signal to mariners. In anticipation to certain responses, I was baptized in a creek and married on a beach....neither event made those venues churches.

[dbussone]

Bingo. That was no more a church than the lighthouse at LSL is a signal to mariners. In anticipation to certain responses, I was baptized in a creek and married on a beach....neither event made those venues churches.

You have to be kidding. I have friends who swear they get home at night thanks to that lighthouse beacon.

[sunnyatlast]

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[TheVillageChicken]

It's only a building and not a church if an assembly of Christian believers does not meet to worship there.

"Question: "What is the church?"

Answer: Many people today understand the church as a building. This is not a biblical understanding of the church. The word “church” comes from the Greek word ekklesia which is defined as “an assembly” or “called-out ones.”

The root meaning of “church” is not that of a building, but of people. It is ironic that when you ask people what church they attend, they usually identify a building. Romans 16:5 says “… greet the church that is in their house.” Paul refers to the church in their house—not a church building, but a body of believers.

The church is the body of Christ, of which He is the head. Ephesians 1:22-23 says, “And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” The body of Christ is made up of all believers in Jesus Christ from the day of Pentecost (Acts chapter 2) until Christ’s return. The body of Christ is comprised of two aspects:

Read more: What is the church? (http://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-the-church.html#ixzz3Z7J22YZa)

Red Herring alert.

[Bonny]

When we first moved here in 2000, I went with my neighbors & attended worship services every Sunday for about 2 years at the Church on the Square. It was non-denominational and they would have guest pastors, ministers, etc come in to do the service every Sunday and there were wonderful singers each week.
Also my youngest daughter got married there in April of 2008.