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Guest
05-04-2015, 06:40 PM
let us wait and see how long it takes for the dirt dogs to dig up what ever.

They certainly won't sit still too long with the way she takes Clinton head on.

So refreshing to listen to a non politician like Fiorina and Carson.

A female going after Clinton and a black going after Obama......finally.

Get ready for the flurry of polls and other bounce back defense.

We all appreciate that some need to back their team. Sorta like going to the auditorium in high school for a footbal game pep rally....one has to back their team no matter what....right?

Guest
05-04-2015, 06:45 PM
let us wait and see how long it takes for the dirt dogs to dig up what ever.

They certainly won't sit still too long with the way she takes Clinton head on.

So refreshing to listen to a non politician like Fiorina and Carson.

A female going after Clinton and a black going after Obama......finally.

Get ready for the flurry of polls and other bounce back defense.

We all appreciate that some need to back their team. Sorta like going to the auditorium in high school for a footbal game pep rally....one has to back their team no matter what....right?







Isn't that why you posted this rubbish? To generate dirt?

Seems to be your motive

Guest
05-04-2015, 07:09 PM
Republicans will not run a woman vs a woman. This would guarantee a female victor and the establishment Republicans would not go for that. Same way with Carson. The establishment Republicans will not go for that.

Besides neither are Presidential material.:1rotfl:

Guest
05-04-2015, 07:49 PM
Yes, you have to back your team no matter what.

You have a disgraced company CEO and a doctor entering into the race.

Both way out of their element. Carly has proved to everyone that she is a loser and Ben, while he is an excellent surgeon, is not presidential material. He might be an even worse choice than Sarah Palin proved to be for the GOP.

Guest
05-04-2015, 07:59 PM
Yes, you have to back your team no matter what.

You have a disgraced company CEO and a doctor entering into the race.

Both way out of their element. Carly has proved to everyone that she is a loser and Ben, while he is an excellent surgeon, is not presidential material. He might be an even worse choice than Sarah Palin proved to be for the GOP.

You are probably correct about Ben Carson not being presidential material. After all, he was never a Community Organizer.:1rotfl:

Guest
05-04-2015, 10:55 PM
Isn't that why you posted this rubbish? To generate dirt?

Seems to be your motive

Be happy in your thoughts....even though per usual incorrect.

Guest
05-04-2015, 11:01 PM
Yes, you have to back your team no matter what.

You have a disgraced company CEO and a doctor entering into the race.

Both way out of their element. Carly has proved to everyone that she is a loser and Ben, while he is an excellent surgeon, is not presidential material. He might be an even worse choice than Sarah Palin proved to be for the GOP.

I suppose Obama and Clinton are examples of those in their element. As the saying goes, all are entitled to their opinion......right or wrong!

Guest
05-05-2015, 06:05 AM
I suppose Obama and Clinton are examples of those in their element. As the saying goes, all are entitled to their opinion......right or wrong!

Yes,
I would say someone engaged in state and federal politics since her '20's and rising to Sectretary of State and the other being engaged with h community politics, as well as being a law professor and being elected as a US Senator does make their credentials excellent.

Personal Best Regards

Guest
05-05-2015, 06:41 AM
:rolleyes:

Guest
05-05-2015, 07:33 AM
Yes,
I would say someone engaged in state and federal politics since her '20's and rising to Sectretary of State and the other being engaged with h community politics, as well as being a law professor and being elected as a US Senator does make their credentials excellent.

Personal Best Regards

Exactly backwards, as usual. At least you're consistent

Guest
05-05-2015, 10:44 AM
Carly Fiorina rose to be CEO of one of the largest companies in America and has essentially spent her entire career in the private sector. Since the President is essentially the CEO of America she is more qualified than anyone else running. I would expect accountability from her and everyone who works for her if she became president. If I had to guess, I would say you were probably a state or federal government employee and not really aware of how private companies work. The problem with government today is that there is no accountability. A president from the private sector might be able to instill some sanity into our government. While I am not entirely sold on her, at least she brings a management skill set to the discussion.

Calling people you have never met and have, without a doubt, accomplished more in their life than you ever will, a "loser" does nothing but reflect on you, and not in a good way. You might want to think about toning down your hate-filled rhetoric.

Yes, you have to back your team no matter what.

You have a disgraced company CEO and a doctor entering into the race.

Both way out of their element. Carly has proved to everyone that she is a loser and Ben, while he is an excellent surgeon, is not presidential material. He might be an even worse choice than Sarah Palin proved to be for the GOP.

Guest
05-05-2015, 11:01 AM
Carly Fiorina rose to be CEO of one of the largest companies in America and has essentially spent her entire career in the private sector. Since the President is essentially the CEO of America she is more qualified than anyone else running. I would expect accountability from her and everyone who works for her if she became president. If I had to guess, I would say you were probably a state or federal government employee and not really aware of how private companies work. The problem with government today is that there is no accountability. A president from the private sector might be able to instill some sanity into our government. While I am not entirely sold on her, at least she brings a management skill set to the discussion.

Calling people you have never met and have, without a doubt, accomplished more in their life than you ever will, a "loser" does nothing but reflect on you, and not in a good way. You might want to think about toning down your hate-filled rhetoric.

Can a CEO Who Laid Off Thousands, Botched a Merger, and Left With $21 Million Become President? | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/carly-fiorina-hewlett-packard-2016-gop)


In your accolades for Ms Fioriana, you fail to mention that as CEO of HP she laid off thousands, botched a merger, and left with 21 million after being fired. Her only accomplishment since that time seems to be her losing senate race to Senator Barbara Boxer in California by 10 percentage points.

Guest
05-05-2015, 11:17 AM
Can a CEO Who Laid Off Thousands, Botched a Merger, and Left With $21 Million Become President? | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/carly-fiorina-hewlett-packard-2016-gop)


In your accolades for Ms Fioriana, you fail to mention that as CEO of HP she laid off thousands, botched a merger, and left with 21 million after being fired. Her only accomplishment since that time seems to be her losing senate race to Senator Barbara Boxer in California by 10 percentage points.

I would say that looking at almost any major corporation over the last 20 years one could say with accuracy that they laid off thousands of people, botched a merger or aquisition and left with a lot more than $21 million.

Now go back and tally up the good that was done by those same CEO's.....by the way good equates to increasing share holder value and profitability of the company.

Also do not believe what one reads in the public record for answers to why a person ever leaves a corporate entity....it is NEVER EVER a reflection of what trull happened or why.

Guest
05-05-2015, 11:29 AM
Laying off people is nothing new - happens all the time for a variety of reasons. You apparently worked in the public sector where layoffs never happen as the tax payer just takes it in the shorts. I have worked for IBM and have seen lots of people get laid off because the company moved out of some markets and into others. Unfortunate but it does happen in the real world. A lots of planned mergers never happen - they are often a risky proposition. Many C-level executives have employment contracts. Making all the right decisions in very complex business environments is very difficult. At least she has been there.

She lost to a democrat incumbent in a left-wing state by only 10 points - pretty good showing since 90% of incumbents are reelected.

You seem very naive and uninformed and apparently hate Carly Fiorina for no real reason. I assume you are a democrat. You see the world as black and white when it reality it is grey. I pity you.

Can a CEO Who Laid Off Thousands, Botched a Merger, and Left With $21 Million Become President? | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/carly-fiorina-hewlett-packard-2016-gop)


In your accolades for Ms Fioriana, you fail to mention that as CEO of HP she laid off thousands, botched a merger, and left with 21 million after being fired. Her only accomplishment since that time seems to be her losing senate race to Senator Barbara Boxer in California by 10 percentage points.

Guest
05-05-2015, 11:34 AM
Laying off people is nothing new - happens all the time for a variety of reasons. You apparently worked in the public sector where layoffs never happen as the tax payer just takes it in the shorts. I have worked for IBM and have seen lots of people get laid off because the company moved out of some markets and into others. Unfortunate but it does happen in the real world. A lots of planned mergers never happen - they are often a risky proposition. Many C-level executives have employment contracts. Making all the right decisions in very complex business environments is very difficult. At least she has been there.

She lost to a democrat incumbent in a left-wing state by only 10 points - pretty good showing since 90% of incumbents are reelected.

You seem very naive and uninformed and apparently hate Carly Fiorina for no real reason. I assume you are a democrat. You see the world as black and white when it reality it is grey. I pity you.

You were ok, until you added your editorial at the end to elicit a response, of which you are sure of what you will get. It's a "pity" you couldn't respond without throwing an insult.

Guest
05-05-2015, 11:47 AM
It would behoove all voters to demand that the politicians pundits and journalist forgo the games of one upmanship and dirty politics and focus on a candidates bona fides...why is this candidate qualified to be president ?

While games may help a party's candidate it does not yield us the best candidate and hence we all suffer

Issue of integrity truthfulness honesty, etc are fair game

Out right lying such as the Harry Reid lie concerning Romney's tax situation should be meant with rebuke and shame. Zero tolerance and acceptance should be made clear from voters.

all of the above if not corrected will bring us down to a 3rd rate country

Thre is plenty of criticism and blame to go around. We need to refocus our effort and energies on picking the best fairly and objectively

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
05-05-2015, 11:50 AM
It is not an insult. I really do pity you because you clearly have no clue about her and you are happy to form your opinions, and try to sway others, by referring to a left wing rag. In the future, try providing balanced references and then I won't pity you.

You were ok, until you added your editorial at the end to elicit a response, of which you are sure of what you will get. It's a "pity" you couldn't respond without throwing an insult.

Guest
05-05-2015, 11:57 AM
Can a CEO Who Laid Off Thousands, Botched a Merger, and Left With $21 Million Become President? | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/carly-fiorina-hewlett-packard-2016-gop)


In your accolades for Ms Fioriana, you fail to mention that as CEO of HP she laid off thousands, botched a merger, and left with 21 million after being fired. Her only accomplishment since that time seems to be her losing senate race to Senator Barbara Boxer in California by 10 percentage points.

By virtue of what you posted, and intended as criticism of CF, it's clear you have no real understanding of how the economy works, or how a business grows ... or contracts. You are only looking at one side of the equation. You are ignoring, or not even seeing more likely, how the company grew and how the entire tech industry went through tough times. Performance in that environment is relative, as is survival for that matter. I remember at one point HP was kind of a joke in the high tech world but CF turned that around. Your view of this is not unique, as many uniformed people quickly leap to similar conclusions and that is how, and why, the Democrats can readily demagogue it.

Do you envy her for making $21M? Just wondering given that aspect of your comment.

Bottom line: this woman has her act together. She's actualy a poster child for feminist success. Anyone who can rise from Secretary to CEO has, beyond any doubt, leadership and management ability. That is MUCH more that the majority of the Republican field can claim. You can draw your own conclusions about her ability stacks up with the people running with D's behind their names.

Guest
05-05-2015, 11:58 AM
It would behoove all voters to demand that the politicians pundits and journalist forgo the games of one upmanship and dirty politics and focus on a candidates bona fides...why is this candidate qualified to be president ?

While games may help a party's candidate it does not yield us the best candidate and hence we all suffer

Issue of integrity truthfulness honesty, etc are fair game

Out right lying such as the Harry Reid lie concerning Romney's tax situation should be meant with rebuke and shame. Zero tolerance and acceptance should be made clear from voters.

all of the above if not corrected will bring us down to a 3rd rate country

Thre is plenty of criticism and blame to go around. We need to refocus our effort and energies on picking the best fairly and objectively

Personal Best Regards:

Well stated ... and wise advice. Let's hope we can follow it.

Guest
05-05-2015, 12:00 PM
I would say that looking at almost any major corporation over the last 20 years one could say with accuracy that they laid off thousands of people, botched a merger or aquisition and left with a lot more than $21 million.

Now go back and tally up the good that was done by those same CEO's.....by the way good equates to increasing share holder value and profitability of the company.

Also do not believe what one reads in the public record for answers to why a person ever leaves a corporate entity....it is NEVER EVER a reflection of what trull happened or why.

I would never agree that the United States should be run like a corporation, but I took your criteria as apparently you think increased shareholder value and corporate profits can tell us whether Carly is Presidential material. So

President Fiorina? How Carly did at HP | America's Markets (http://americasmarkets.usatoday.com/2015/05/04/president-fiorina-how-carly-did-at-hp/)


The stock under Fiorina was a disaster — falling 65% from July 19, 1999, to Feb. 8, 2005. It was a tough time for the stock market, too, as the Standard & Poor’s 500 dropped 15% during the same time. But HP’s stock even underperformed the S&P 500 Information Technology Sector index

and how about those corporate profits?

The company’s net income under Fiorina didn’t budge during her tenure and even dropped into the red in 2002. HP’s net income was flat during the period, even while reported net income of the S&P 500 rose 70%.

Nice job running HP Carly. Still think based on her CEO work she should be the GOP nominee? I'm sure Mrs. Clinton hopes Carly is the last clown standing.

Guest
05-05-2015, 12:01 PM
Thank you for your wise post. If we could only get the people to spend half as much time objectively researching the candidates and issues as they spend watching American Idol, Survivor, or the Super Bowl. Too many people are too lazy to take their voting responsibility seriously. Political ads work for the same reason that celebrity endorsements of consumer items work: people are too lazy to do their own due diligence.

It would behoove all voters to demand that the politicians pundits and journalist forgo the games of one upmanship and dirty politics and focus on a candidates bona fides...why is this candidate qualified to be president ?

While games may help a party's candidate it does not yield us the best candidate and hence we all suffer

Issue of integrity truthfulness honesty, etc are fair game

Out right lying such as the Harry Reid lie concerning Romney's tax situation should be meant with rebuke and shame. Zero tolerance and acceptance should be made clear from voters.

all of the above if not corrected will bring us down to a 3rd rate country

Thre is plenty of criticism and blame to go around. We need to refocus our effort and energies on picking the best fairly and objectively

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
05-05-2015, 12:17 PM
It is not an insult. I really do pity you because you clearly have no clue about her and you are happy to form your opinions, and try to sway others, by referring to a left wing rag. In the future, try providing balanced references and then I won't pity you.

I assume you mean balanced references, like Fox News.

You really do need some new talking points. These are getting quite stale.

Guest
05-05-2015, 12:26 PM
The only talking point here is don't come onto a public forum bad mouthing someone who you clearly know nothing about with references from a left wing rag. Great minds talk about issues and ideas, small minds criticize those who have actually taken risks and accomplished something in their lives.

I assume you mean balanced references, like Fox News.

You really do need some new talking points. These are getting quite stale.

Guest
05-05-2015, 12:31 PM
The only talking point here is don't come onto a public forum bad mouthing someone who you clearly know nothing about with references from a left wing rag. Great minds talk about issues and ideas, small minds criticize those who have actually taken risks and accomplished something in their lives.

Bingo ... and spot on comment.

Guest
05-05-2015, 12:33 PM
The only talking point here is don't come onto a public forum bad mouthing someone who you clearly know nothing about with references from a left wing rag. Great minds talk about issues and ideas, small minds criticize those who have actually taken risks and accomplished something in their lives.

Not sure what you accomplished in life, but I can tell you, you are clueless.

Don't make assumptions about posters you know nothing about. In other words, practice what you preach.

Guest
05-05-2015, 12:37 PM
Does calling people you have never met a "clown" make you feel better? You are dragging around a lot of hate. Anyone who gets into a position to run for president is clearly an accomplished individual, almost certainly a much more accomplished person than those who label them "clowns".

I would never agree that the United States should be run like a corporation, but I took your criteria as apparently you think increased shareholder value and corporate profits can tell us whether Carly is Presidential material. So

President Fiorina? How Carly did at HP | America's Markets (http://americasmarkets.usatoday.com/2015/05/04/president-fiorina-how-carly-did-at-hp/)




and how about those corporate profits?



Nice job running HP Carly. Still think based on her CEO work she should be the GOP nominee? I'm sure Mrs. Clinton hopes Carly is the last clown standing.

Guest
05-05-2015, 12:39 PM
I formed my opinions about you based on your responses and I am pretty sure I am spot on. You have a nice day now.

Not sure what you accomplished in life, but I can tell you, you are clueless.

Don't make assumptions about posters you know nothing about. In other words, practice what you preach.

Guest
05-05-2015, 01:43 PM
Does calling people you have never met a "clown" make you feel better? You are dragging around a lot of hate. Anyone who gets into a position to run for president is clearly an accomplished individual, almost certainly a much more accomplished person than those who label them "clowns".

RNC, networks mull criteria for inclusion in GOP debates - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/05/rnc-networks-mull-criteria-for-inclusion-in-gop-debates-206611.html?hp=l2_4)


Carly Fiorina is going to have to get her poll numbers way up and raise a lot of money from a lot of people in order to be included in the debates.

With 17 potential GOP candidates, only the ones at the top of the polls with the most money will make the cut, and not making it into a debate would be a death knell for a candidate, according to this article. And BTW, the first debate is only three months away.

Guest
05-05-2015, 02:38 PM
Agreed, that is the way things work now in this country; without substantial funding it is hard to get your poll numbers up and without your poll numbers up it is hard to get money. Hell of a system we have.

RNC, networks mull criteria for inclusion in GOP debates - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/05/rnc-networks-mull-criteria-for-inclusion-in-gop-debates-206611.html?hp=l2_4)


Carly Fiorina is going to have to get her poll numbers way up and raise a lot of money from a lot of people in order to be included in the debates.

With 17 potential GOP candidates, only the ones at the top of the polls with the most money will make the cut, and not making it into a debate would be a death knell for a candidate, according to this article. And BTW, the first debate is only three months away.

Guest
05-05-2015, 04:43 PM
It is obvious by the tone and tenor of some of the posts they are not from corporate America. And if they were or are they were obviously not high enough up in the pyramid to understand or know how things sometimes work.

What if.....just what if her job was to get the company positioned to be able to "lay off thousands" (very unpopular), to close down plants (very expensive) clean up the balance sheet by dumping select assets and do the very best that could be expected while writing off or writing down these assets (all of which could be a huge hit to earnings).

She gets the job done. The current results do not look very good at all as a result of actions taken (expected). The company is now positioned to be leaner in physical as well as monetary assets, well positioned for improved financial results in the near term (?). She agrees to take the public beating that goes with the poor results. She gets $21 million to go on her merry way.

Now the above could well be a hypothesis. It could also be something akin to what really happened.

When it comes to what gets said and done at the CEO level and the board of directors level and what gets published for public consumption do not have to match. It just has to be legal or not illegal.

Just musing out loud!

The woman is more capable than Obama as a elected POTUS. She is more capable than he is today. She makes Clinton look and sound like a political dinosaur.

If Obama were measured for results.....promises made VS promised kept as they do in the corporate world, he would not have made it through a second year.....let alone 6!!!!

Guest
05-05-2015, 07:05 PM
It is obvious by the tone and tenor of some of the posts they are not from corporate America. And if they were or are they were obviously not high enough up in the pyramid to understand or know how things sometimes work.

What if.....just what if her job was to get the company positioned to be able to "lay off thousands" (very unpopular), to close down plants (very expensive) clean up the balance sheet by dumping select assets and do the very best that could be expected while writing off or writing down these assets (all of which could be a huge hit to earnings).

She gets the job done. The current results do not look very good at all as a result of actions taken (expected). The company is now positioned to be leaner in physical as well as monetary assets, well positioned for improved financial results in the near term (?). She agrees to take the public beating that goes with the poor results. She gets $21 million to go on her merry way.

Now the above could well be a hypothesis. It could also be something akin to what really happened.

When it comes to what gets said and done at the CEO level and the board of directors level and what gets published for public consumption do not have to match. It just has to be legal or not illegal.

Just musing out loud!

The woman is more capable than Obama as a elected POTUS. She is more capable than he is today. She makes Clinton look and sound like a political dinosaur.

If Obama were measured for results.....promises made VS promised kept as they do in the corporate world, he would not have made it through a second year.....let alone 6!!!!






yeah, that's what they said about Mr. Etch-A-Sketch when he announced last time.

PT Barnum was right .........

Guest
05-05-2015, 07:38 PM
Carly Fiorina is polling at 1%. Why are we even having this discussion? It will be interesting to see how the RNC will try to get her into the debates, because she is a woman who can attack Hillary Clinton, when her poll numbers are so pitiful.

Guest
05-05-2015, 08:25 PM
It is obvious by the tone and tenor of some of the posts they are not from corporate America. And if they were or are they were obviously not high enough up in the pyramid to understand or know how things sometimes work.

What if.....just what if her job was to get the company positioned to be able to "lay off thousands" (very unpopular), to close down plants (very expensive) clean up the balance sheet by dumping select assets and do the very best that could be expected while writing off or writing down these assets (all of which could be a huge hit to earnings).

She gets the job done. The current results do not look very good at all as a result of actions taken (expected). The company is now positioned to be leaner in physical as well as monetary assets, well positioned for improved financial results in the near term (?). She agrees to take the public beating that goes with the poor results. She gets $21 million to go on her merry way.

Now the above could well be a hypothesis. It could also be something akin to what really happened.

When it comes to what gets said and done at the CEO level and the board of directors level and what gets published for public consumption do not have to match. It just has to be legal or not illegal.

Just musing out loud!

The woman is more capable than Obama as a elected POTUS. She is more capable than he is today. She makes Clinton look and sound like a political dinosaur.

If Obama were measured for results.....promises made VS promised kept as they do in the corporate world, he would not have made it through a second year.....let alone 6!!!!







You seem to have forgotten a coupe of items voters MAY consider when, as you say, "The woman is more capable than Obama as a elected POTUS. She is more capable than he is today. She makes Clinton look and sound like a political dinosaur"

Things like under her leadership HP's earnings collapsed, HP stock fell by 50%, and she was repeatedly named one of the worst CEO's in American corporate history.

And let's not even mention the 10,000 (at least) jobs she destroyed.

And, of course, let us NEVER mention she was FIRED !!!!!!

I guess to a Con that is a success.

Guest
05-05-2015, 08:53 PM
Muse out loud all you want, but the establishment GOP will not have a Black person or a woman on their ticket. They saw what a disaster that Sara Palin was and realize both Carlie and Benny are of the same calibre as Sara.

Guest
05-05-2015, 10:21 PM
:sigh:

Guest
05-06-2015, 04:17 AM
Find it amazing that the lefties say Fiorina and Carson aren't presidential. Guess being a community organizer and a do nothing senator does.

Guest
05-06-2015, 06:24 AM
Find it amazing that the lefties say Fiorina and Carson aren't presidential. Guess being a community organizer and a do nothing senator does.

:thumbup:

Guest
05-06-2015, 07:41 AM
Find it amazing that the lefties say Fiorina and Carson aren't presidential. Guess being a community organizer and a do nothing senator does.

Not only that, it just goes to show it's not at all about elevating women or minorities at all where liberals are concerned, because if the woman or minority is not on "their team" it doesn't count. The mud slinging continues just the same. This is the crux of the real hoax that they perpetrate.

Guest
05-06-2015, 01:02 PM
Not only that, it just goes to show it's not at all about elevating women or minorities at all where liberals are concerned, because if the woman or minority is not on "their team" it doesn't count. The mud slinging continues just the same. This is the crux of the real hoax that they perpetrate.

It's both entertaining and breathtaking to watch the level of liberal hypocrisy on this matter ... they only want house-trained women or blacks who repeat and propagate the liberal progressive semi-Marxist leftist "religion."

The leftys will cast a heretic into the fires MUCH faster than a medieval inquisitor ever would or could.

Guest
05-06-2015, 04:55 PM
Carly Fiorina is polling at 1%. Why are we even having this discussion? It will be interesting to see how the RNC will try to get her into the debates, because she is a woman who can attack Hillary Clinton, when her poll numbers are so pitiful.

Carly will be in the debates ... you can pretty much bet on it IMHO.

Guest
05-06-2015, 05:00 PM
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The woman is more capable than Obama as a elected POTUS. She is more capable than he is today. She makes Clinton look and sound like a political dinosaur.

If Obama were measured for results.....promises made VS promised kept as they do in the corporate world, he would not have made it through a second year.....let alone 6!!!!

That's what gets me ... I've worked in government, served in the military and in private industry and each had it standards you needed to meet or exceed. In short, you really did have to deliver or you would hear about it.

Someone like Obama, who is clearly all talk and no action, would never have made it to a senior rank in any of those environments based on merit. As it turned out, he was able to "talk" his way, with some help from the teleprompter, and promise a lot of gullible people the moon and they bought it. Human nature seems to be constant in every generation, because people love to hear stuff like that.

Guest
05-07-2015, 08:08 PM
That's what gets me ... I've worked in government, served in the military and in private industry and each had it standards you needed to meet or exceed. In short, you really did have to deliver or you would hear about it.

Someone like Obama, who is clearly all talk and no action, would never have made it to a senior rank in any of those environments based on merit. As it turned out, he was able to "talk" his way, with some help from the teleprompter, and promise a lot of gullible people the moon and they bought it. Human nature seems to be constant in every generation, because people love to hear stuff like that.







Yeah - Osama Bin Laden bought it - hook, line and sinker.

Guest
05-08-2015, 06:14 AM
Yeah - Osama Bin Laden bought it - hook, line and sinker.

I happen to have firsthand knowledge of some of the activities that lead to UBL’s death. The wheels were put in motion long before Obama ever showed up. He happened to be there when we finally zapped him. Ironically, the methods and intel we used to find UBL were later discarded by Obama. In other words, had his policies been in place originally UBL would likely still be around.

That’s actually what irked me the most when he later broke security in various ways and took credit for it. Most people, like you, would understandably have no way of knowing how it actually occurred.

Guest
05-14-2015, 12:56 PM
let us wait and see how long it takes for the dirt dogs to dig up what ever.


Multimillionaire Carly Fiorina Took 4 Years to Pay Staffers From Her Last Campaign | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/carly-fiorina-campaign-debt-senate-2016)

Please note that the persons associated with the campaign ADMIT that the story is true. And there are links within the link to other sources.

Sometimes the dirt dogs find a real bone, right?

Guest
05-14-2015, 02:07 PM
Ah yes, we should vote for a CEO of a wonderful corporation who was incompetent and got fired? The stock prices of HP went downhill while she was in charge and climbed skyward when she was fired.

She had a miserable showing in her bid for public office.

No, this person is NOT ELECTABLE. Scratch Carly off.

Well, we have scratched Carly, Huckelberry, Christie, Paul, and Jindahl.

Not many more out there.


Hillary - you are looking more Presidential each and every day. :clap2:

Guest
05-14-2015, 02:16 PM
Ah yes, we should vote for a CEO of a wonderful corporation who was incompetent and got fired? The stock prices of HP went downhill while she was in charge and climbed skyward when she was fired.

She had a miserable showing in her bid for public office.

No, this person is NOT ELECTABLE. Scratch Carly off.

Well, we have scratched Carly, Huckelberry, Christie, Paul, and Jindahl.

Not many more out there.


Hillary - you are looking more Presidential each and every day. :clap2:

I would say that it is just the opposite...too much drama and personal baggage.

Guest
05-14-2015, 02:41 PM
Fiorina fear at work already.

One for one amplifier about her corporate accomplishments and ditto for the political aspect.

Just to test your credibility what do you have to say about Clinton LOOSING to Obama. I want to know about Clinton's rejection not all the parroting about why Obama won.

The dems chose to table the "first woman president" opportunity. Why?
She was a liability then and is more of one now. So if she is more of a libility now why would the dems stay with her this time.

All the above helps us understand your negative catharsis about Fiorina.

Guest
05-14-2015, 02:52 PM
Fiorina fear at work already.

One for one amplifier about her corporate accomplishments and ditto for the political aspect.

Just to test your credibility what do you have to say about Clinton LOOSING to Obama. I want to know about Clinton's rejection not all the parroting about why Obama won.

The dems chose to table the "first woman president" opportunity. Why?
She was a liability then and is more of one now. So if she is more of a libility now why would the dems stay with her this time.

All the above helps us understand your negative catharsis about Fiorina.


The number one reason that Hillary Clinton lost out to Barack Obama was because of her vote in the senate supporting the Iraq war. Twelve years later, the Iraq war vote doesn't seem to be a high priority for democrats. The same can't be said for Jeb Bush supporters.

Guest
05-14-2015, 04:08 PM
"Just to test your credibility what do you have to say about Clinton LOOSING to Obama."

Is "loosing" the opposite of "tighting"? At least the liberals, socialists, and progressives have learned basic spelling. It must be the college educations that we have had.

As to your inane question, there can be only one winner in each race. At the time, voters in primaries thought that Obama was a better choice.

Now, it is going to be interesting to see who bites the dust early in the Republican party.

Rubio and Jeb both are from Florida. One will be left out after the Republican primary in Florida. Personally, I am voting for Cruz.

Guest
05-14-2015, 04:52 PM
"Just to test your credibility what do you have to say about Clinton LOOSING to Obama."

Is "loosing" the opposite of "tighting"? At least the liberals, socialists, and progressives have learned basic spelling. It must be the college educations that we have had.

As to your inane question, there can be only one winner in each race. At the time, voters in primaries thought that Obama was a better choice.

Now, it is going to be interesting to see who bites the dust early in the Republican party.

Rubio and Jeb both are from Florida. One will be left out after the Republican primary in Florida. Personally, I am voting for Cruz.

Congratulations on your learning basic spelling while in college. I learned basic spelling while in elementary school.

Guest
05-14-2015, 05:38 PM
I happen to have firsthand knowledge of some of the activities that lead to UBL’s death. The wheels were put in motion long before Obama ever showed up. He happened to be there when we finally zapped him. Ironically, the methods and intel we used to find UBL were later discarded by Obama. In other words, had his policies been in place originally UBL would likely still be around.

That’s actually what irked me the most when he later broke security in various ways and took credit for it. Most people, like you, would understandably have no way of knowing how it actually occurred.






But OBL ISN'T around .................. no thanks to Junior and his band of incompetent Cons.

:boom:

Guest
05-14-2015, 06:05 PM
But OBL ISN'T around .................. no thanks to Junior and his band of incompetent Cons.

:boom:

Yeah, Obama is a one-man-killing-machine.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest
05-14-2015, 06:17 PM
"Just to test your credibility what do you have to say about Clinton LOOSING to Obama."

Is "loosing" the opposite of "tighting"? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: At least the liberals, socialists, and progressives have learned basic spelling.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: It must be the college educations that we have had.

As to your inane question, there can be only one winner in each race. At the time, voters in primaries thought that Obama was a better choice.

Now, it is going to be interesting to see who bites the dust early in the Republican party. and the democratic party

Rubio and Jeb both are from Florida. One will be left out after the Republican primary in Florida. Personally, I am voting for Cruz.

Where are the bite me and bird flip emoticons when needed?

Guest
05-14-2015, 06:44 PM
Yeah, Obama is a one-man-killing-machine.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You seem to be living on a different planet ....