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gatherer47
05-15-2015, 03:57 PM
My daughter this past week attended an Amy Grant concert at Stambaugh Auditorium in Youngstown,Ohio.This theater seats a little over a thousand people.They sat in the fifth row from the stage.The price of this ticket was $45.The price for a ticket at the Sharon for Amy Grant in the fifth row is $125.This brings up the obvious question-why so much more here?

graciegirl
05-15-2015, 04:05 PM
My daughter this past week attended an Amy Grant concert at Stambaugh Auditorium in Youngstown,Ohio.This theater seats a little over a thousand people.They sat in the fifth row from the stage.The price of this ticket was $45.The price for a ticket at the Sharon for Amy Grant in the fifth row is $125.This brings up the obvious question-why so much more here?

Sez here that the Stambaugh Concert Hall seats 2250 people.

Stambaugh Auditorium Reservations and Rental Hall Information (http://www.stambaughauditorium.com/RentalFacilityInformation.aspx)

I don't know the answer. Amy's cost divided by 1000 (The Sharon)plus profit compared to Amy's cost divided by 2250 (The Stambaugh) plus profit?

jnieman
05-15-2015, 04:16 PM
I just checked on Stubhub.com and Amy's ticket prices are all over the place anywhere from $57 all the way up to $350. I guess it varies.

Bogie Shooter
05-15-2015, 04:24 PM
There is your answer.............................

gatherer47
05-15-2015, 04:30 PM
I guess I was given wrong information on the seating capacity Gracie-forgive me-that may explain the price difference-The AAA auto club ran a bus trip to Lakeland to see the Million Dollar Quartet-The price of trip $100 included the concert ticket,the bus trip,and dinner.The top price for just the show at the Sharon is $100.I'm just pointing this out and making no judgements-Don't shoot the messenger.

jimmemac
05-15-2015, 04:39 PM
think about who gets the money

Bogie Shooter
05-15-2015, 04:49 PM
think about who gets the money

The performers?

pmbinnj
05-15-2015, 05:54 PM
Maybe they're trying to keep away ticket scalpers from TV :laugh:

coach
05-15-2015, 06:03 PM
The events are sell outs. If you think ticket prices are too high then don't go. But remember the Sharon was built by private funds. No tax dollars used, no special assessments pushed on you. The developer put his money at risk and I feel he deserves to get a reasonable return for the cost of the building plus an operating profit.

gatherer47
05-15-2015, 06:18 PM
I think Coach just attack the messenger-I never said I wouldn't go! If I like somebody enough I'll pay whatever the rate.

Heritage
05-16-2015, 10:15 AM
the events are sell outs. If you think ticket prices are too high then don't go. But remember the sharon was built by private funds. No tax dollars used, no special assessments pushed on you. The developer put his money at risk and i feel he deserves to get a reasonable return for the cost of the building plus an operating profit.

amen.

John_W
05-16-2015, 02:05 PM
Sez here that the Stambaugh Concert Hall seats 2250 people.

Stambaugh Auditorium Reservations and Rental Hall Information (http://www.stambaughauditorium.com/RentalFacilityInformation.aspx)

I don't know the answer. Amy's cost divided by 1000 (The Sharon)plus profit compared to Amy's cost divided by 2250 (The Stambaugh) plus profit?

Actually, by going to the Stambaugh Concert Hall link provided by Gracie, it states the hall capacity is 2,553. So essentially Stambaugh Hall is 2-1/2 times bigger than the Sharon.

sunnyatlast
05-16-2015, 02:13 PM
Actually, by going to the Stambaugh Concert Hall link provided by Gracie, it states the hall capacity is 2,553. So essentially Stambaugh Hall is 2-1/2 times bigger than the Sharon.

When "the evil, white, RICH developer" is being accused of "greed", no facts, such as these quoted, are going to hinder the whining "victims" who seemingly bought their home here at gunpoint.

gatherer47
05-16-2015, 02:34 PM
I corrected my original post of being wrong on the seating capacity of Stambaugh Auditorium.I never said anything about the "evil white Rich developer.I'm not a whining victim.I love it here and if I see something I want I buy it. I had my fact wrong and apologized and admitted it John W and Sunnyatlast.

John_W
05-16-2015, 02:46 PM
...I had my fact wrong and apologized and admitted it John W and Sunnyatlast.

This was my first and only post on this thread. I was only correcting Gracie's figure of 2,250 when it should of read 2,553.

sailor47
05-16-2015, 03:13 PM
Why is everyone so sensative...must be the heat from last week.https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/images/smilies/boxing2.gif

tomwed
05-16-2015, 03:26 PM
How Much Does It Cost to Book Your Favorite Band? How Much Does It Cost to Book Your Favorite Band? | Variety (http://variety.com/2014/music/news/degy-entertainment-breaks-down-artist-booking-fees-1201189498/)

Read this. Its a real eye opener.

Challenger
05-16-2015, 03:33 PM
A 1000 seat auditorium cannot attract and support big name or even some lesser known programs and do it at prices that will make the masses happy. This was much of the discussion when the origional plans were floated about a community owned performing arts center. Historic theatres in small towns accross the country have suffered from this problem for manny years since they were converted from essentially movie theatres.The only way to ower prices is by the way of sponsors for shows at $25000 and up for the lead sponsor or a public or private subsidy. In this case the developer has paid all capital costs ($millions) and I suspect has decided not to operate by subsidizing shows. The community was not willing to assume all costs and take the risks so the ticket prices will be relatively high. As always" The is no such thimg as a free lunch" In any case I am happy that we have a beautiful facility . I can almost guarantee that after considering( all in) costs. there will be No profit from the operation of the Sharon.

graciegirl
05-16-2015, 03:38 PM
I corrected my original post of being wrong on the seating capacity of Stambaugh Auditorium.I never said anything about the "evil white Rich developer.I'm not a whining victim.I love it here and if I see something I want I buy it. I had my fact wrong and apologized and admitted it John W and Sunnyatlast.


I am a fan of gatherer, Gatherer is an intelligent and reasonable person who is fair in his posts. I have always enjoyed reading what he has to say and I didn't mean at all to argue with him or embarrass him.

Challenger
05-16-2015, 03:38 PM
How Much Does It Cost to Book Your Favorite Band? How Much Does It Cost to Book Your Favorite Band? | Variety (http://variety.com/2014/music/news/degy-entertainment-breaks-down-artist-booking-fees-1201189498/)

Read this. Its a real eye opener.

Please stop publishing facts. It irritates those who want others to pay for their entertainment, and almost everything else.

When you have a beer pocketbook , you drink beer!!:MOJE_whot:

tomwed
05-16-2015, 03:49 PM
Please stop publishing facts. It irritates those who want others to pay for their entertainment, and almost everything else.

When you have a beer pocketbook , you drink beer!!:MOJE_whot:
I just find it amazing Willie Nelson commands 100 to 200k.
You know why he gets that? Because people will pay it. He's 82 and not Tony Bennett. He can hardly keep his head up.

Remember when you were a kid and your dad could take you to see the Yankees or your local professional team without getting a loan? That's because Micky and Yogi weren't making all that much.

Oh well, you win some and you lose some.

gatherer47
05-16-2015, 04:35 PM
Thanks Gracie for the kind words-you're the best !!!

sunnyatlast
05-16-2015, 05:52 PM
When "the evil, white, RICH developer" is being accused of "greed", no facts, such as these quoted, are going to hinder the whining "victims" who seemingly bought their home here at gunpoint.

I corrected my original post of being wrong on the seating capacity of Stambaugh Auditorium.I never said anything about the "evil white Rich developer.I'm not a whining victim.I love it here and if I see something I want I buy it. I had my fact wrong and apologized and admitted it John W and Sunnyatlast.

Gatherer, I wasn't referring to you with the quoted statement above, but rather it applies to those who would not give credit where credit is due to the developers under ANY circumstances, purely due to partisan hatred of them which eventually shows up as the reason for every b*tch session about The Sharon, Katie Belle's remodeling, repurposing of the "Church" on The Square, the cross still atop of the Sharon, the closure and reopening of Orange Blossom Hills CC restaurant/bar…..All were attributed to "greed" by the "evil white RICH developer" "who cares nothing about The Little Guy". It gets really old.

I think this of them:

"Bitterness is a poison they swallow, hoping their enemy will die."

gloria325
05-16-2015, 06:03 PM
Will Savannah Center still have shows or is it becoming a recreation center?

Bogie Shooter
05-16-2015, 07:12 PM
Will Savannah Center still have shows or is it becoming a recreation center?
Now where did you hear that, a rec center? Or you just making that up?

Mikeod
05-16-2015, 07:15 PM
Will Savannah Center still have shows or is it becoming a recreation center?
There will still be shows at Savannah Center.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-16-2015, 10:22 PM
The events are sell outs. If you think ticket prices are too high then don't go. But remember the Sharon was built by private funds. No tax dollars used, no special assessments pushed on you. The developer put his money at risk and I feel he deserves to get a reasonable return for the cost of the building plus an operating profit.

They're sell outs because it's a 1,000 seat venue. I've said several times from the beginning that this venue is too small and in the wrong place. They could dsell out a 5,000 seat venue with tickets at half the price for some of these acts that are coming into town. They might have also been able to attract some bigger names like James Taylor, Elton John, Ringo and several others with a decent sized facility.

Hancle704
05-16-2015, 10:49 PM
Now where did you hear that, a rec center? Or you just making that up?

I believe that The Savannah Center is described as a Regional Recreation Center by The Villages Recreation Department and it has been so labeled since it opened.

Walt.
05-17-2015, 01:28 PM
How Much Does It Cost to Book Your Favorite Band? How Much Does It Cost to Book Your Favorite Band? | Variety (http://variety.com/2014/music/news/degy-entertainment-breaks-down-artist-booking-fees-1201189498/)

Read this. Its a real eye opener.

Lots of variables though. Prices could vary depending on the day/night of the week (likely cheaper on a weekday afternoon than a Saturday night), other gigs within moderate travel distance (if they come from California just for your show you're stuck with airfare), do you supply back up band, lodging, etc.
25 years ago we got Little Anthony for $6,000 for a free outdoor concert in Miami Beach. Easy money. It rained and he never had to leave his hotel.

I never heard of most of the bands listed.

JoMar
05-17-2015, 02:14 PM
They're sell outs because it's a 1,000 seat venue. I've said several times from the beginning that this venue is too small and in the wrong place. They could dsell out a 5,000 seat venue with tickets at half the price for some of these acts that are coming into town. They might have also been able to attract some bigger names like James Taylor, Elton John, Ringo and several others with a decent sized facility.

I would rather pay a higher price and have a smaller venue. We had a 1300 seat venue in PA and Elton John was one of many that showed up. In smaller venues the connection with the audience/artist is closer. The larger venues are cheaper but the best you can say is you were in the same building....and your best chance of seeing the artist is with binoculars. I'm sure you have been to Broadway shows and all of those theaters are smaller venues. I'm sure you have been to Vegas and most of those venues are smaller as well.....Caesars excluded. It's always a personal choice but if it's an artist you want to see the day tickets go on sale is known and you can get at seat. If it's price that drives you then your selections and opportunities will be limited.....but that is your choice.

ROCKETMAN
05-18-2015, 08:51 AM
As long as the place is selling out, ticket prices will remain higher. There are enough high income people living in the villages to spend $200.00 for a couple tickets and even at that price a person of moderate means will do it once in a while for a event he really wants to see. I love old rock and roll bands and paid $40.00 a ticket for turtles, grass roots, association, buckinghams , cousils, and mark Lindsay of paul revere and the raiders. Concert is june 20th at ruth eckardt hall in Clearwater. Just happens to be our 46th wedding anniversary that day.

tomwed
05-18-2015, 09:15 AM
The Turtles might be around for 140 years.

tomwed
05-18-2015, 09:25 AM
Lots of variables though. Prices could vary depending on the day/night of the week (likely cheaper on a weekday afternoon than a Saturday night), other gigs within moderate travel distance (if they come from California just for your show you're stuck with airfare), do you supply back up band, lodging, etc.
25 years ago we got Little Anthony for $6,000 for a free outdoor concert in Miami Beach. Easy money. It rained and he never had to leave his hotel.
listed.
I never heard of most of them either but the kids probably know them.

And I was thinking yesterday that these are the prices they probably charge for a private event like a wedding or bar mitzvah. There are people with enough discretionary income so money is no object.

I'll bet the agents set up a tour knowing that the auditorium owners work with each other to guarantee the best return for the house, the artist and the agent.

A five thousand seat auditorium probably cost 5,000 times as much as was spent redoing the Church on the Square. I don't know. big money, big risk

Buckeye
05-18-2015, 09:46 AM
[quote=ROCKETMAN;1061699]As long as the place is selling out, ticket prices will remain higher. There are enough high income people living in the villages to spend $200.00 for a couple tickets and even at that price a person of moderate means will do it once in a while for a event he really wants to see. I love old rock and roll bands and paid $40.00 a ticket for turtles, grass roots, association, buckinghams , cousils, and mark Lindsay of paul revere and the raiders. Concert is june 20th at ruth eckardt hall in Clearwater. Just happens to be our 46th wedding

Buckeye
05-18-2015, 09:51 AM
These groups are some of my favorite groups.
I saw most in concert before and I wish we could get that type of entertainment for that price here!

CWGUY
05-18-2015, 10:14 AM
Oh. Oh. Will the Sharon possibly be refunding ticket prices.


WHY? :22yikes:

"Concert is june 20th at ruth eckardt hall in Clearwater. Just happens to be our 46th wedding anniversary that day."

John_W
05-18-2015, 05:42 PM
...I love old rock and roll bands and paid $40.00 a ticket for turtles, grass roots, association, buckinghams , cousils, and mark Lindsay of paul revere and the raiders. Concert is june 20th at ruth eckardt hall in Clearwater. Just happens to be our 46th wedding anniversary that day.

The Grassroots was one of my favorites, but unfortunately Rob Grill their lead singer died in 2011 from a fall at his home in Mt. Dora. On Youtube there is some really good video of most of these bands in recents years. The Grassroots they have a PBS broadcast from around 2003 with Rob playing bass and singing. Also Dennis Tufano the lead singer of the Buckinghams is featured on Youtube from a 2010 concert, he seems to be a bit of a story teller about each song. The Turtles is probably Flo & Eddie who have been touring since the early 80's as the Turtles and put on a really good show. On Youtube just look up Flo & Eddie. The Cowsils and the Association I believe both were at Savannah Center last year, but I don't know much about their shows or the lineup. Mark Lindsey you can find video on Youtube. He wasn't with Paul Revere & the Raiders in recent years, who are probably history now since Paul Revere died about a month ago.

My first concert of any significance was Vanilla Fudge in 1968, right after they appeared on the Ed Sullivan show. After the Beatles my favorite band back then was Grand Funk. I finally got to see them in 1998, the last time the original members toured together, Mark, Don & Mel. I also got to see 3 Dog Night the last time the 3 original members toured together in 1984, Chuck Negron, Cory Wells & Danny Hutton. I had a record collection of 4,000 albums before I moved to TV four years ago. They're gone now but I still have about 500 CD's, 300 concerts on DVD and XM/Sirius Radio in my car. I guess I'm a music junky.

Chi-Town
05-18-2015, 06:11 PM
The Turtles might be around for 140 years.
Just got it. Funny.

DougB
05-18-2015, 07:53 PM
As long as the place is selling out, ticket prices will remain higher. There are enough high income people living in the villages to spend $200.00 for a couple tickets and even at that price a person of moderate means will do it once in a while for a event he really wants to see. I love old rock and roll bands and paid $40.00 a ticket for turtles, grass roots, association, buckinghams , cousils, and mark Lindsay of paul revere and the raiders. Concert is june 20th at ruth eckardt hall in Clearwater. Just happens to be our 46th wedding anniversary that day.

I'll be seeing the Happy Together Tour on June 17 in Melbourne. I'll let you how it went.

tomwed
05-18-2015, 08:18 PM
I listen to 99.6 quite a bit. They play older songs of a certain classic style. The Sharon is heavily advertised on that station and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if sooner or later the percentage of the audiences not living in The Villages will outnumber the locals.

Maybe some day they could charge a much higher price for a ticket for outsiders to somewhat subsidize the locals. Of course you would need to put caps in place for it to even out.

jnieman
05-18-2015, 08:58 PM
Went to the show tonight at the Sharon and it was worth every penny! I would love to see it a second time! There were 2 standing ovations and 3 encores. The seats were comfortable and a great view of the stage and we were in the last row. We could see everything just fine. I like the size of the place, just perfect.

John_W
05-18-2015, 09:03 PM
I listen to 99.6 quite a bit. They play older songs of a certain classic style. The Sharon is heavily advertised on that station and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if sooner or later the percentage of the audiences not living in The Villages will outnumber the locals.


Another really good oldies rock station and a bit more on the heavier side is 95.5 WIND Ocala/Gainesville, the classic rock station of north central Florida. They'll play anything from Deep Purple to the Beatles to U2 to Creedence.

tomwed
05-18-2015, 09:06 PM
Went to the show tonight at the Sharon and it was worth every penny! I would love to see it a second time! There were 2 standing ovations and 3 encores. The seats were comfortable and a great view of the stage and we were in the last row. We could see everything just fine. I like the size of the place, just perfect.
I'm jelly. [as the kids would say]

pooh
05-18-2015, 09:51 PM
Went to the show tonight at the Sharon and it was worth every penny! I would love to see it a second time! There were 2 standing ovations and 3 encores. The seats were comfortable and a great view of the stage and we were in the last row. We could see everything just fine. I like the size of the place, just perfect.
We went this evening also. It was truly a great show and worth every penny!
Seats were indeed comfortable and there was leg room, too. Really enjoyed the show and will see it again when it returns...I'm sure it will...:BigApplause: