Isis took over Ramadi

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White house doing nothing as they take over. Iraq falling apart because u.s. troops were pulled out. Isis must be defeated but still leader of free world does nothing. Terrorists goal is to take over world as we sit and watch it happen. God help our kids as they get closer and closer

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White house doing nothing as they take over. Iraq falling apart because u.s. troops were pulled out. Isis must be defeated but still leader of free world does nothing. Terrorists goal is to take over world as we sit and watch it happen. God help our kids as they get closer and closer

Maybe he'll give a speech and draw a red line.

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This is what happens when America doesn't lead. Civilians being killed in the streets thousands fleeing U.S. lacks strategy. What are you going to do now Mr President?

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Let's see. Ramadi is mostly Sunni, Islamic State is Sunni, and a useless Iraqi army was the the city's defense. And who is to blame? The blame goes farther back than Obama. We wasted trillions of dollars and paid a terrible price in lives and suffering by our troops. We invaded the wrong country.

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Just listened to bush,s speech back in 07 when he warned pulling out too soon would be a huge mistake. How right he was. Isis taking over the country and Obama and Hillary responsible for all of this. We haven't had a president who is willing to take on the enemy in 7 years as we are losing the war on terror at frightening speed. Our children and grandchildren will be converting to Islam or God help them. They are achieving their goal of world wide jihad

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Obama was quoted as saying this is a "bump in the road".
The military leaders are concerned.....as much as they can say and keep their jobs.
The WH spin team said we have to take into account the overall picture of which this town is a very small piece of the puzzle.

Hundreds of innocents slaughtered by a regime that went to power when Obama pulled the troops out too early....I wonder if the families of those murdered think it is a bump in the road.

The thousands who are fleeing for their lives.
Just think about you and your wife taking what you can carry and walking to Gainesville. And not knowing what or where you will be tonight. Tomorrow!

Bump in the road.........disgraceful and disgusting.

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Let's see. Ramadi is mostly Sunni, Islamic State is Sunni, and a useless Iraqi army was the the city's defense. And who is to blame? The blame goes farther back than Obama. We wasted trillions of dollars and paid a terrible price in lives and suffering by our troops. We invaded the wrong country.

We (No make that Obama with Hillary's approval) pulled the troops out of the country too early and our men died in vain because of this. Guess it won't be long before we run and hide too. They are determined to multiply, kill us all and yes they are succeeding while we sit and watch

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Let's see. Ramadi is mostly Sunni, Islamic State is Sunni, and a useless Iraqi army was the the city's defense. And who is to blame? The blame goes farther back than Obama. We wasted trillions of dollars and paid a terrible price in lives and suffering by our troops. We invaded the wrong country.

Dear Guest: You employ that common left wing ploy by changing the conversation. You employ backward analysis while what we need is forward thinking. the simple fact is that viet Nam and Iraq are examples where we have polticians running the war rather than generals.

Saddem was an evil person who murdered his own people and was in the process of developing WMD. In fact who knows if he didn't hide what he had perhaps in Syria. Syria by the way has loads of WMD's and currently using them against the Syrian people. Taking out Saddem was necessary and we were going strong until the Jane Fonda groupies start pushing politicians buttons

These theoretical questions of what you know now would you...........is a dodge from the left because people are focused on the dismissal/non existent foreign policy of the Obama Administration. Obama simply is not a clear thinking individual because his ideology gets in the way. He is immature inexperienced and his education and experience has been biased against America and favor the muslim world.

The left needs to reassess their position because they are mistaken about America and not assisting America in its fight against the evil empires and the viability of our democracy

Personal Best Regards:

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I think that president Omama should listen to the consensus of the Americans and immediately send in a rapidly deployment force of around 10,000 troops and equipment to take care of the ISIS problem right away.

Get rid if those Moslem invaders once and for all before they make war here.

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To remedy the threat would take leand resolve; neither of which this president has demonstrated to date.

Secondly it would be inconsistent with his agenda to not interfere with any radical Muslim activity.

All we can hope for is that ISIS and other radicals do not gain too much more ground and credibility until we get a new president, commited to the safety of Americans and eliminating the radical butchering and killing of innocents.

His bump in the road assignation of these killings is disgusting.

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10,000 - 20,000 American boots on the ground would take care of these Moslems in short order. Like Santorum said, bomb them back to the 7th century.

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President Obama hasn't fixed George Bush's historic and catastrophic screw up in Iraq, so put another Bush and the same advisors back in power.

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Dear Guest: You employ that common left wing ploy by changing the conversation. You employ backward analysis while what we need is forward thinking. the simple fact is that viet Nam and Iraq are examples where we have polticians running the war rather than generals.

Saddem was an evil person who murdered his own people and was in the process of developing WMD. In fact who knows if he didn't hide what he had perhaps in Syria. Syria by the way has loads of WMD's and currently using them against the Syrian people. Taking out Saddem was necessary and we were going strong until the Jane Fonda groupies start pushing politicians buttons

These theoretical questions of what you know now would you...........is a dodge from the left because people are focused on the dismissal/non existent foreign policy of the Obama Administration. Obama simply is not a clear thinking individual because his ideology gets in the way. He is immature inexperienced and his education and experience has been biased against America and favor the muslim world.

The left needs to reassess their position because they are mistaken about America and not assisting America in its fight against the evil empires and the viability of our democracy

Personal Best Regards:

OK, I'll agree to no more finger pointing of past mistakes. And looking forward how do you propose dealing with the Sunni vs. Shiite and Arab vs. Persia conflicts the Mideast has endured these past 1500 years? Please don't deflect as to how this is another liberal attempt to change the subject. Your answer is important.

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I sort of doubt this will happen but I hold out hope. I am not sure the American people have the stomach for another fight. We appear to lack a coherent policy. We are adrift and this is being exploited. We need better leadership.

I think that president Omama should listen to the consensus of the Americans and immediately send in a rapidly deployment force of around 10,000 troops and equipment to take care of the ISIS problem right away.

Get rid if those Moslem invaders once and for all before they make war here.

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10,000 - 20,000 American boots on the ground would take care of these Moslems in short order. Like Santorum said, bomb them back to the 7th century.

In combat situations, it is extremely likely that some American soldiers would be captured by ISIS forces. Itis most likely that any American soldiers captured would be beheaded, burned alive in a cage, or some other horrible death. This would be filmed and put on Internet sources for everyone to see.

IF that happened, what would the reaction of Americans be?

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In combat situations, it is extremely likely that some American soldiers would be captured by ISIS forces. Itis most likely that any American soldiers captured would be beheaded, burned alive in a cage, or some other horrible death. This would be filmed and put on Internet sources for everyone to see.

IF that happened, what would the reaction of Americans be?

It would be absolute horror.

However, we are not horrified about the use of chemical weapons in Syria, a practice we said was over because we "negotiated" with Russia and Syria to give those weapons to Russia and have it stopped. We allowed those weapons to be used on children for years and then did this negotiations FiINALLY, a year or so after the red line drawing. By the way, Russia once again is "on our side" in talking with Iran ! But no horror for these people being gassed.

The administration INSISTS we have great allies in the Mideast. The administration INSISTS we do not need "boots on the ground to gather Intel. The administration INSISTS our drone program is second to none.

Could we not put to use all these ingredients claimed by the administration....to insure that nobody will want to be near a terrorist lest the die. A terrorist attack....with all our allies, and great Intel, we determine who did it, or even guess if we have to, and use drones to wipe the earth clean of those folks. Might make others think twice before another attack.

Would innocent people get killed...yep,but they are dying toda, but we don't care.

Sitting back and listening to people who "claim" to care about human life, when those children gassed in the streets of Syria are once again being gassed is a bit difficult.

If we think the situation with ISIL and Al Queda will have a "political" solution, we are dreaming. If we think verbalizing "red lines" with no follow through will work, we are foolish.

People are being beheaded, burnt alive and gassed because of religious beliefs.

We are presently negotiating with a country that is the single largest state contributor to terrorism in the area.

Does anyone want conflict...no, but even though the majority of men, women and children being massacred daily are not US citizens, should we not care ?

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President Obama hasn't fixed George Bush's historic and catastrophic screw up in Iraq, so put another Bush and the same advisors back in power.

No matter the topic, you post this same old tiresome response. You sound like a broken record.

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It would be absolute horror.

However, we are not horrified about the use of chemical weapons in Syria, a practice we said was over because we "negotiated" with Russia and Syria to give those weapons to Russia and have it stopped. We allowed those weapons to be used on children for years and then did this negotiations FiINALLY, a year or so after the red line drawing. By the way, Russia once again is "on our side" in talking with Iran ! But no horror for these people being gassed.

The administration INSISTS we have great allies in the Mideast. The administration INSISTS we do not need "boots on the ground to gather Intel. The administration INSISTS our drone program is second to none.

Could we not put to use all these ingredients claimed by the administration....to insure that nobody will want to be near a terrorist lest the die. A terrorist attack....with all our allies, and great Intel, we determine who did it, or even guess if we have to, and use drones to wipe the earth clean of those folks. Might make others think twice before another attack.

Would innocent people get killed...yep,but they are dying toda, but we don't care.

Sitting back and listening to people who "claim" to care about human life, when those children gassed in the streets of Syria are once again being gassed is a bit difficult.

If we think the situation with ISIL and Al Queda will have a "political" solution, we are dreaming. If we think verbalizing "red lines" with no follow through will work, we are foolish.

People are being beheaded, burnt alive and gassed because of religious beliefs.

We are presently negotiating with a country that is the single largest state contributor to terrorism in the area.

Does anyone want conflict...no, but even though the majority of men, women and children being massacred daily are not US citizens, should we not care ?

I see your point. Use unmanned drones to do bombing strikes and not American soldiers doing the fighting. Makes good sense.

You do not support having American soldiers doing the brunt of fighting, if I read you correctly.

Should we care? Should we risk American lives?

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Who remembers Vietnam? It was a war, like Iraq, that the US had no business in whatsoever. Yet, America lost over 58,000 soldiers in a war that was a civil war.

Richard Nixon ended that war by withdrawing all Americans and now the US and Vietnam are trading partners. Who knew that would occur?

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Who remembers Vietnam? It was a war, like Iraq, that the US had no business in whatsoever. Yet, America lost over 58,000 soldiers in a war that was a civil war.

Richard Nixon ended that war by withdrawing all Americans and now the US and Vietnam are trading partners. Who knew that would occur?

I'm confused. Are say saying that we should withdraw our troops and become trading partners with ISIS/ISIL?

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Who remembers Vietnam? It was a war, like Iraq, that the US had no business in whatsoever. Yet, America lost over 58,000 soldiers in a war that was a civil war.

Richard Nixon ended that war by withdrawing all Americans and now the US and Vietnam are trading partners. Who knew that would occur?

Could you please clarify your meaning ?

Vietnam was us getting involved in a civil war. What is happening in the ME has nothing to do with any one country. That is on the assumption that you were speaking of that.

If you were speaking of Iran, I sure hope it is crystal clear what the differences are, and the lack of localization and the impact of nuclear.

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I'm confused. Are say saying that we should withdraw our troops and become trading partners with ISIS/ISIL?

Would you have thought back in 1968 that the USA and Vietnam would become future trading partners?

Was it necessary for 58,000 Americans to die in Vietnam? It was a civil war. The encroachment of Communism was not a danger to us.

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Would you have thought back in 1968 that the USA and Vietnam would become future trading partners?

Was it necessary for 58,000 Americans to die in Vietnam? It was a civil war. The encroachment of Communism was not a danger to us.

Apples and Oranges. I don't remember the North Vietnamese declaring war on the Christian world and training "soldiers" to travel to the U.S., Europe and the rest of the world to kill non-believers. I guess that I must have missed that part.

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I see your point. Use unmanned drones to do bombing strikes and not American soldiers doing the fighting. Makes good sense.

You do not support having American soldiers doing the brunt of fighting, if I read you correctly.

Should we care? Should we risk American lives?

I think Winston Churchill's answer still rings true to this day, and applies to this very topic ...(paraphrasing) ..."You can always count on Americans to do the right thing – after they’ve tried everything else."

The right thing to do is a) accurately describe the enemy as Radical Islam b) a leader / President (currently not applicable) explains to the people what's at stake, c) mobilize for Desert Storm II and 4) change the Rules of Engagement to approximate what we did in WWII when faced with a fascist enemy. We need to destroy ISIS totally, and that means use of tactical nukes if need be to destroy their cities. We also need to make sure Iran does not end up as the hegemon in the Middle East ... and DSII would help with that as well.

Radical Islam uses terror to make us afraid (ie the earlier post about what ISIS would do to a US captive). Historically, we have to make them more afraid while simultaneously exterminating them as we did the Nazis and Imperial Japanese.

The alternative to victory is to slowly watch the spread of Muhammad's writ and see your grandkids terrorized, and eventually in burhkas and using prayer rugs. Think about it ...

Oh, by the way, bring back the draft. Everyone needs to be in this.

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Apples and Oranges. I don't remember the North Vietnamese declaring war on the Christian world and training "soldiers" to travel to the U.S., Europe and the rest of the world to kill non-believers. I guess that I must have missed that part.

Yes, that's the part the original poster either forgot and just didn't seem to even realize. The Communists, when all is said and done, are secular and want to enjoy life vs give it up for Allah or whatever.

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OK, I'll agree to no more finger pointing of past mistakes. And looking forward how do you propose dealing with the Sunni vs. Shiite and Arab vs. Persia conflicts the Mideast has endured these past 1500 years? Please don't deflect as to how this is another liberal attempt to change the subject. Your answer is important.
Time's up. Not surprised.

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If Obama didn't pull out the residual force, the ISIS take over of Ramadi would not have happened. What is happening now was predicted.

Let's see. Ramadi is mostly Sunni, Islamic State is Sunni, and a useless Iraqi army was the the city's defense. And who is to blame? The blame goes farther back than Obama. We wasted trillions of dollars and paid a terrible price in lives and suffering by our troops. We invaded the wrong country.

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If Obama didn't pull out the residual force, the ISIS take over of Ramadi would not have happened. What is happening now was predicted.

Perhaps an agenda being accomplished?

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Perhaps an agenda being accomplished?

Yes, no doubt.

The only thing that still puzzles me is this question ... is Obama a Sunni sympathizer or Shia sympathizer? Kenyans are Sunni, as are Indonesians so logic would imply Obama favors the Sunni. Yet, he is allowing the Shia (ie Iran) to develop a nuke. Go figure ... but best covered in another thread.

ps for those interested the gist of the Sunni Shia dispute (over which many have died) is Shia Muslims believe that the only people who should lead Islam at the head are to be descendants of Muhammed, as in his kindred Ali, while Sunni believe anyone can be the leader.

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Yes, no doubt.

The only thing that still puzzles me is this question ... is Obama a Sunni sympathizer or Shia sympathizer?:1rotfl: Kenyans are Sunni, as are Indonesians so logic would imply Obama favors the Sunni. Yet, he is allowing the Shia (ie Iran) to develop a nuke. :ohdear: Go figure ... but best covered in another thread.

ps for those interested the gist of the Sunni Shia dispute (over which many have died) is Shia Muslims believe that the only people who should lead Islam at the head are to be descendants of Muhammed, as in his kindred Ali, while Sunni believe anyone can be the leader.:popcorn:

...and why haven't Donald Trump's investigators returned from Hawaii! :clap2:

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...and why haven't Donald Trump's investigators returned from Hawaii! :clap2:

Serious charges once again, as usual, met with jest. There is definitely a pattern.

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...and why haven't Donald Trump's investigators returned from Hawaii! :clap2:

Excuse me, but I think that you must have forgotten to take your meds this morning, your reply to the post quoted has no relevance.

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...and why haven't Donald Trump's investigators returned from Hawaii! :clap2:

We all know that Obama professes to be a Christian, and liberals love to make fun of any statement of the obvious ... so here it is again. There is no doubt that, no matter what faith he professes, he sympathizes in his heart with Islam. How could he not ...ie Muslim father, raised by a Muslim step-father, and so forth. It would strain credulity if he didn't had Muslim sympathies.

obama muslim sympathies - Bing Videos (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=obama+muslim+sympathies&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=5C6B75D542A673336BF25C6B75D542A673336BF2)

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We all know that Obama professes to be a Christian, and liberals love to make fun of any statement of the obvious ... so here it is again. There is no doubt that, no matter what faith he professes, he sympathizes in his heart with Islam. How could he not ...ie Muslim father, raised by a Muslim step-father, and so forth. It would strain credulity if he didn't had Muslim sympathies.

obama muslim sympathies - Bing Videos (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=obama+muslim+sympathies&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=5C6B75D542A673336BF25C6B75D542A673336BF2)
Sometimes Snopes is not your friend.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxvideo.asp

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Anybody can always find written or spoken or professed support or denial on any subject on any day by any party, race or religion.

The difference on credibility is, diligence. Not many do it or know how or want to do it.

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Sometimes Snopes is not your friend.

snopes.com: Obama Admits He Is a Muslim? (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxvideo.asp)

You're missing the point ... no one can definitively prove whether Obama is, or is not, a Muslim per se. But, simple observation and the application of common sense does allow one to make reasonable inferences in terms of where his sympathies are.