D.U.I. In the Villages

[Jima64]

Dui's in the village. Are there more because of the vacation/fun aspect of living in the Villages? Seems that the ones caught and listed in that other News thing are almost always multiple dui violators. I really feel sorry for these people when I see an older person, retired with so much to live for doing this. The dangers to others and themselves. Is there a bigger alcohol problem than we actually see? What do you think?

[MikeV]

What makes you think there are more DUI's in TV than any other town of the same size?

[Bonny]

Dui's in the village. Are there more because of the vacation/fun aspect of living in the Villages? Seems that the ones caught and listed in that other News thing are almost always multiple dui violators. I really feel sorry for these people when I see an older person, retired with so much to live for doing this. The dangers to others and themselves. Is there a bigger alcohol problem than we actually see? What do you think?
Are they saying all of these are Villagers or they were caught in the Villages?

[Jima64]

What makes you think there are more DUI's in TV than any other town of the same size?

I didn't mean to say more I am asking if you thought there was and how do you feel about it. They usually do mention the village the person lives in. I realize as we age a lot of people continue with the same problems.

[dewilson58]

I remember my first Life Style visit (+10 years ago). I have to confess, it was a vacation / fun atmosphere for us and we probably drove the golf cart when we shouldn't have done so. I think it's easy for first-timers and newbies to forget safety. This place is just too much fun!!! Older and wiser now.

[tomwed]

Is there a bigger alcohol problem than we actually see? What do you think?
I don't think there is.

I think villagers are more likely to problem drink at their old home, where they came from. Unless they came from a place with so much to do, so many friends your own age and so many nice days to go outside.

It's funny. Down here once in a blue moon I see a cooler with beer on the golf course. Back home it was quite common.

[outlaw]

I think there is definitely alcohol abuse among older people. I know so many older people that drink way too much. I'm not saying they are drinking and driving, but they are drinking everyday three and four drinks per day. Some much more than that. I think a lot of it is loneliness for a widow or widower. Much of it is a gradual build up of tolerance, and addiction.

[redwitch]

Considering the amount of AA meetings in TV, I'd be surprised if things were any different. Some won't drink at all, some will drink moderately, some will drink responsibly, some will drink too much and some are alcoholics but won't admit it. Let's face it, a lot of activities revolve around a cocktail or two. Plus, I think the LEOs here are well aware of the ones who imbibe too much on a regular basis and are on the lookout for them. So, that will lead to more repeat offenders.

[Barefoot]

Is there a bigger alcohol problem than we actually see? What do you think?
I don't think there is. I think villagers are more likely to problem drink at their old home, where they came from. Unless they came from a place with so much to do, so many friends your own age and so many nice days to go outside.

I think Tom is right. "Back home", I think drinking probably was more solitary, and done at home.
In TV, there are Happy Hours and two-for-one drinks in most of the Country Clubs, restaurants and at the Town Squares.
It's a very social atmosphere. Maybe not more drinking than "back home", but more obvious.

[rubicon]

Its the village seniors who get arrested for drug use that caught me off guard. Never used any kind of illegal drugs, never drank much in fact right ow i feel a bit of guilt taking an aspirin...that last part was a joke

[Fraugoofy]

Is there a bigger alcohol problem than we actually see? What do you think?
I don't think there is.

I think villagers are more likely to problem drink at their old home, where they came from. Unless they came from a place with so much to do, so many friends your own age and so many nice days to go outside.

It's funny. Down here once in a blue moon I see a cooler with beer on the golf course. Back home it was quite common.
Blue Moon happens to be one of my favorite beers!

[dbussone]

Blue Moon happens to be one of my favorite beers!


:bigbow: one of mine as well [emoji41]

[golfing eagles]

Ok, 6 weeks till we move in---When's Happy Hour????:pepper2:

[dbussone]

Ok, 6 weeks till we move in---When's Happy Hour????:pepper2:


Already underway!

[golfing eagles]

Already underway!

Save a drink for me:beer3:

[dbussone]

Save a drink for me:beer3:


Absolutely. See you in 6 weeks. Travel safely (I may have to order another drink for you by then.) [emoji3]

[golfing eagles]

Absolutely. See you in 6 weeks. Travel safely (I may have to order another drink for you by then.) [emoji3]

Traveling with 2 dogs and a wife. At least I can put the dogs in a cage :1rotfl:

So on second thought, may need a double

[dbussone]

Traveling with 2 dogs and a wife. At least I can put the dogs in a cage :1rotfl:



So on second thought, may need a double


So let it be written, so let it be done.

[Topspinmo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOlZgr9vwgY

maybe some can resist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_kkA0Zb6BY

or maybe just once a day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-epx63Dd8

or maybe they just don't know when to quit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggkyQ8RqOvc

or maybe they are in love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlSXTWGwEjU

or maybe she got drinking problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9AmJtVB8LA

or when you drink too much!

[dbussone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOlZgr9vwgY



maybe some can resist



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_kkA0Zb6BY



or maybe just once a day



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-epx63Dd8



or maybe they just don't know when to quit



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggkyQ8RqOvc



or maybe they are in love!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlSXTWGwEjU



or maybe she got drinking problem



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9AmJtVB8LA



or when you drink too much!


I had a chance to see Connie Smith in person. She had a great voice. I also met George Jones a couple of times when I lived in TN not far from where he lived. He was a great talent who fell prey to alcohol.

[Barefoot]

Traveling with 2 dogs and a wife. At least I can put the dogs in a cage :1rotfl: . :jester:

[dbussone]

. :jester:


In all unseriousness, what do you do with your pets and Fireboy? [emoji48]

[Barefoot]

In all unseriousness, what do you do with your pets and Fireboy? [emoji48]
Like Golfing Eagle's wife, I go in a crate. Fireboy and the dogs sit in front.
At night when we stop at LaQuinta, he lets me out of the crate. Then I get walked and fed.

[dbussone]

Like Golfing Eagle, I go in a crate. Fireboy and the dogs sit in front.

At night when we stop at LaQuinta, he lets me out of the crate. Then I get walked and fed.


You are absolutely the bestest spouse ever!!! :jester:

By the way, when will you be making the crossing into the fountain of youth land?

[Barefoot]

By the way, when will you be making the crossing into the fountain of youth land?
Our 182 days as illegal aliens start Nov 1 and end next April 28, 2016.
I'm still trying to get over the ticket price of travel insurance for six months.
The older we get, the more expensive it is. And we're both healthy!

I don't usually go to Crispers monthly TOTV get-together, but I'll go in Nov if you do!

P.S. I'm so sorry, I just realized this thread is now wildly off track.
Let's get back to the serious business of drinking. :beer3:

[jpvillager]

Have been wondering if it appears like a bigger problem because it gets more attention in the press? Maybe crime also?

[dbussone]

Our 182 days as illegal aliens start Nov 1 and end next April 28, 2016.
I'm still trying to get over the ticket price of travel insurance for six months.
The older we get, the more expensive it is. And we're both healthy!

I don't usually go to Crispers monthly TOTV get-together, but I'll go in Nov if you do!

P.S. I'm so sorry, I just realized this thread is now wildly off track.
Let's get back to the serious business of drinking. :beer3:


When is the Nov. Chrispers event?

[Barefoot]

When is the Nov. Chrispers event?
In keeping with the intent of this Thread, it has been suggested from time to time that we hold the Crispers event somewhere licensed so people can order a drink. At 3 PM? Well, it's always 5 o'clock somewhere. :popcorn:
All TOTV get-togethers are held the third Friday of the month at 3 PM at Crispers in Southern Trace Plaza. I think there is one today. So that would make it November 20. See you there?

By the way, I mispoke, the US Government refers to Canadians as aliens, but NOT illegal aliens. My bad.

[Chellybean]

someone from Law enforcement told me that there is 33 % of the public that is drunk before 11:00 am.
I said yikes is that really true!
There is over a 100,000 people living in the villages, that would be 33,000 people.
He then said ok would it make you feel better if i said 15%, 15,000 people YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[graciegirl]

Our 182 days as illegal aliens start Nov 1 and end next April 28, 2016.
I'm still trying to get over the ticket price of travel insurance for six months.
The older we get, the more expensive it is. And we're both healthy!

I don't usually go to Crispers monthly TOTV get-together, but I'll go in Nov if you do!

P.S. I'm so sorry, I just realized this thread is now wildly off track.
Let's get back to the serious business of drinking. :beer3:


I missed meeting this nice fellow the last time he went to Crispers. I will be there too to welcome home Bare. I will practice my hugging.

[Barefoot]

someone from Law enforcement told me that there is 33 % of the public that is drunk before 11:00 am. I said yikes is that really true! There is over a 100,000 people living in the villages, that would be 33,000 people. He then said ok would it make you feel better if i said 15%, 15,000 people YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unlikely statistics, you gotta be joking, right?

[Chellybean]

Unlikely statistics, you gotta be joking, right?

THATS HOW I FELT BUT TRY GOOGLING IT.
NOT MUCH BETTER!
I guess we are a drunken society. L.O.L.

[looneycat]

someone from Law enforcement told me that there is 33 % of the public that is drunk before 11:00 am.
I said yikes is that really true!
There is over a 100,000 people living in the villages, that would be 33,000 people.
He then said ok would it make you feel better if i said 15%, 15,000 people YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he obviously was drunk at the time and making a poor attempt to justify his drinking! the actual published guesstimate is 0.7% or 700 out of 100,000 and that number is averaged for any time of day so tell your 'law enforcement' friend to sober up!

[golfing eagles]

THATS HOW I FELT BUT TRY GOOGLING IT.
NOT MUCH BETTER!
I guess we are a drunken society. L.O.L.

So let me propose a new business model: The country clubs should change their happy hour from 11AM-7PM to 4AM-11AM

[Chellybean]

he obviously was drunk at the time and making a poor attempt to justify his drinking! the actual published guesstimate is 0.7% or 700 out of 100,000 and that number is averaged for any time of day so tell your 'law enforcement' friend to sober up!

WOW!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks i feel much better now.

[Bonny]

someone from Law enforcement told me that there is 33 % of the public that is drunk before 11:00 am.
I said yikes is that really true!
There is over a 100,000 people living in the villages, that would be 33,000 people.
He then said ok would it make you feel better if i said 15%, 15,000 people YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a very hard time believing that.

[Bonny]

Years ago I couldn't believe there were actually cars at some of our bars 8:00 am near where I lived.
Then I started working the midnight shift getting out of work at 7:00 am. Sometimes a group of us would go out to the bar after work. I was now one of those cars in the bar parking lot at 8:00 am. :icon_wink:

[tomwed]

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[tomwed]

Years ago I couldn't believe there were actually cars at some of our bars 8:00 am near where I lived.
Then I started working the midnight shift getting out of work at 7:00 am. Sometimes a group of us would go out to the bar after work. I was now one of those cars in the bar parking lot at 8:00 am. :icon_wink:
I thought your face looked familiar. I use to hang out in a bar in Troy, Hazel Park, Harbor Beach, Grand Rapids, Michigan at 8 am.

[Bonny]

I thought your face looked familiar. I use to hang out in a bar in Troy, Hazel Park, Harbor Beach, Grand Rapids, Michigan at 8 am.:1rotfl: Only Troy at 8:00 am, that's when I was younger. :icon_wink:

[virgind]

One other aspect is much of the activities here is fashioned around drinking. Look at the squares. All the bar/restaurants and the beer house. The other thing is people think they are exempt from the law in a golf cart. Stop selling booze at the beer shacks and alot of the drinking at the squares would stop. But economics is the rule.

[tomwed]

:1rotfl: Only Troy at 8:00 am, that's when I was younger. :icon_wink:
Thank goodness. I was starting to feel creepy.

[Barefoot]

Stop selling booze at the beer shacks and a lot of the drinking at the squares would stop. In your scenario, would the "beer shacks" still sell wine and beer?

[dbussone]

In keeping with the intent of this Thread, it has been suggested from time to time that we hold the Crispers event somewhere licensed so people can order a drink. At 3 PM? Well, it's always 5 o'clock somewhere. :popcorn:
All TOTV get-togethers are held the third Friday of the month at 3 PM at Crispers in Southern Trace Plaza. I think there is one today. So that would make it November 20. See you there?

By the way, I mispoke, the US Government refers to Canadians as aliens, but NOT illegal aliens. My bad.


I wish I could. I have a wedding to go to OOT. Maybe December?

By the way, if you were illegal, no sweat - we don't deport anybody here. :jester:

[yesi3putt2]

I had a chance to see Connie Smith in person. She had a great voice. I also met George Jones a couple of times when I lived in TN not far from where he lived. He was a great talent who fell prey to alcohol.

Goerge Jones (great singer) lived in Lakeland Fla for a short period with wife Tammy Wynette and he was banned from most bars..lost his license so he'd drive his tractor to town..

[villagetinker]

All of this goes back to what someone said to me when I told them we lived in the villages...
OH yeah I heard of that place, it's a drinking community with a golfing problem. :D

Now where was that happy hour??? :D

[golfing eagles]

Now where was that happy hour??? :D

Everywhere:beer3:

[Annie01]

I think there is definitely alcohol abuse among older people. I know so many older people that drink way too much. I'm not saying they are drinking and driving, but they are drinking everyday three and four drinks per day. Some much more than that. I think a lot of it is loneliness for a widow or widower. Much of it is a gradual build up of tolerance, and addiction.


I SEE ALOT OF OUTSIDERS THAT ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEM !! people that want into sumter and drink lik there is no tomorrow..alot younger than us seniors....

[Bonny]

I SEE ALOT OF OUTSIDERS THAT ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEM !! people that want into sumter and drink lik there is no tomorrow..alot younger than us seniors....
What kind of problems ?

[dbussone]

Goerge Jones (great singer) lived in Lakeland Fla for a short period with wife Tammy Wynette and he was banned from most bars..lost his license so he'd drive his tractor to town..


That does not surprise me.

[manaboutown]

Goerge Jones (great singer) lived in Lakeland Fla for a short period with wife Tammy Wynette and he was banned from most bars..lost his license so he'd drive his tractor to town..

For a good while George was known as "No Show Jones" because he was frequently so soused he failed to show for performances. George Jones Survived (http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/1560001/george-jones-survived-no-show-period-because-fans-identified-with-him)

When I first arrived in The Villages i was astonished to see Happy Hour advertised as starting at 3:00 p.m. on a couple of signs. Then at Katie Belles it was all day, price wise. I noticed rather early (pre noon) drinking as well.

I believe a lot of retired people gradually slip into drinking before 5:00 p.m. or whatever used to be their after work happy hour time. It happens all over, not just in The Villages although the environment in TV seems to be conducive to anytime drinking. Alcohol abuse among the elderly is a problem today, not to mention both prescription and street drug abuse in addition to their interaction with ingested alcohol. It might be due to depression, loneliness, feelings of loss, boredom or for other reasons. Addiction Medicine - Medical Consequences - Elderly Alcohol and Substance Abuse (http://www.oasas.ny.gov/AdMed/FYI/FYIInDepth-Elderly.cfm)

[Barefoot]

I SEE ALOT OF OUTSIDERS THAT ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEM !! people that want into sumter and drink lik there is no tomorrow..alot younger than us seniors....

I don't understand your statement "people that want into sumter".
The town square and restaurants are open to the Public.

[Chasam75]

Dui's in the village. Are there more because of the vacation/fun aspect of living in the Villages? Seems that the ones caught and listed in that other News thing are almost always multiple dui violators. I really feel sorry for these people when I see an older person, retired with so much to live for doing this. The dangers to others and themselves. Is there a bigger alcohol problem than we actually see? What do you think?

Based on the estimated current population of 115,000+/- within The Villages, the number of DUI's probably isn't any higher than elsewhere, other than the number involving golf cart drivers. And driving a golf cart while under the influence on the golf cart paths is bad news for all of us.

[pgc4340]

Dui's in the village. Are there more because of the vacation/fun aspect of living in the Villages? Seems that the ones caught and listed in that other News thing are almost always multiple dui violators. I really feel sorry for these people when I see an older person, retired with so much to live for doing this. The dangers to others and themselves. Is there a bigger alcohol problem than we actually see? What do you think?

I do think there is a larger DUI problem than we actually see, but not only are older people violators, there are a lot of under 55 people arrested too. I see a lot of articles titled i.e. "Villager arrested for DUI", but then I see that the age of the offender is anywhere from teens to 80's. Many are younger than retirement age. Many are the loser children of retired homeowners here in The Villages. With growth has come crime!

[outlaw]

For a good while George was known as "No Show Jones" because he was frequently so soused he failed to show for performances. George Jones Survived (http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/1560001/george-jones-survived-no-show-period-because-fans-identified-with-him)

When I first arrived in The Villages i was astonished to see Happy Hour advertised as starting at 3:00 p.m. on a couple of signs. Then at Katie Belles it was all day, price wise. I noticed rather early (pre noon) drinking as well.

I believe a lot of retired people gradually slip into drinking before 5:00 p.m. or whatever used to be their after work happy hour time. It happens all over, not just in The Villages although the environment in TV seems to be conducive to anytime drinking. Alcohol abuse among the elderly is a problem today, not to mention both prescription and street drug abuse in addition to their interaction with ingested alcohol. It might be due to depression, loneliness, feelings of loss, boredom or for other reasons. Addiction Medicine - Medical Consequences - Elderly Alcohol and Substance Abuse (http://www.oasas.ny.gov/AdMed/FYI/FYIInDepth-Elderly.cfm)

That's why every golf cart comes with four drink holders. They're not for hydration.

[john2]

You should also be aware that DUI's are a money maker for Lake, Sumter and Marion. They can arrest you for DUI even if you blow under the limit.

[Jimturner]

You should also be aware that DUI's are a money maker for Lake, Sumter and Marion. They can arrest you for DUI even if you blow under the limit.

Also, .08 is a joke. A drinker at .08 is much safer than many of our pill popping neighbors.

[THUNDERCHIEF]

what makes you think there are more dui's in tv than any other town of the same size?

there is a huge drinking problem in the villages-- cheap drinks, 2 for 1 drinks , and open bars at the town centers all pushing alcohol. People running thru gates, cars running over lawns, and almost hitting a house on hillsourgh. I doubt if the cops are catching the drinkers, but there is sure plenty of them.

One lady was driving on hendry, and was on the wrong side of the road, and almost hit me on a harley. I followed her to a rec. Center, she got out of the car and could hardley talk. I should have called the cops on her.

[THUNDERCHIEF]

dui's in the village. Are there more because of the vacation/fun aspect of living in the villages? Seems that the ones caught and listed in that other news thing are almost always multiple dui violators. I really feel sorry for these people when i see an older person, retired with so much to live for doing this. The dangers to others and themselves. Is there a bigger alcohol problem than we actually see? What do you think?

too much dringing in the villages-- alcohol is pushed at every location- 2 for 1 , cheap drinks, happy hours that last all day

[graciegirl]

too much dringing in the villages-- alcohol is pushed at every location- 2 for 1 , cheap drinks, happy hours that last all day



Pushed?


I don't drink so I don't have a dog in this fight. Alcohol is legal and sold everywhere in this country.


AND arresting people for DUI is not a "money maker" it is an act of protection for all.

[tomwed]

My dog drinks all the time and it's starting to work on my nerves. He's ready for an intervention. If you have any dogs that want to talk to him in a group, let me know.

[Bonny]

too much dringing in the villages-- alcohol is pushed at every location- 2 for 1 , cheap drinks, happy hours that last all day
We are all grown adults that are free to make choices. We are responsible for what ever we choose to do, not The Villages. I have friends that drink and friends who don't.

[Bonny]

My dog drinks all the time and it's starting to work on my nerves. He's ready for an intervention. If you have any dogs that want to talk to him in a group, let me know.
:1rotfl:

[fred53]

Dui's in the village. Are there more because of the vacation/fun aspect of living in the Villages? Seems that the ones caught and listed in that other News thing are almost always multiple dui violators. I really feel sorry for these people when I see an older person, retired with so much to live for doing this. The dangers to others and themselves. Is there a bigger alcohol problem than we actually see? What do you think?

...since you asked... that your pity is misplaced as those nailed for DUI aren't young kids being stupid, but older and should know better stupid.

I feel sorry for anyone getting hit by these morons.

There's no bigger alcohol problem here than anywhere else in the country...it only seems big because you live here and read the paper here...get a paper from else where...anywhere...same problems and different names...

[tomwed]

I thought it would be easy using google to see how much our age group drinks compared to other age groups but it's not.
If someone wants to tackle this, I'd be grateful.
I know New Hampshire drinks way more than New York. I think they are house bound and bored in the winter.

For that very same reason. I think there may be less drinking in The Villages.

[2BNTV]

When is the Nov. Chrispers event?

Third Friday of every month. November 20th. is the day.

[dbussone]

Third Friday of every month. November 20th. is the day.


Thank you

[BIGPOPPA]

Not one mention of A.A.?? Pray to your Lord that John Barleycorn doesn't get a hold of you. It can happen in a minute. That being said....have as much fun drinking for as long as you can, just don't hurt anyone else while you having your fun.

[Uberschaf]

Speaking of barleycorns,if your shoe size is a 10 then your foot is 10 barleycorns long.They use barleycorns to measure shoe size,WOW

[golfing eagles]

Speaking of barleycorns,if your shoe size is a 10 then your foot is 10 barleycorns long.They use barleycorns to measure shoe size,WOW

Now there's something I never heard of. You should have saved that one for trivia night!

[tomwed]

Speaking of barleycorns,if your shoe size is a 10 then your foot is 10 barleycorns long.They use barleycorns to measure shoe size,WOW
That's just what I need. Another useless piece of information that will stick, pushing out something important I ought to remember.

[golfing eagles]

That's just what I need. Another useless piece of information that will stick, pushing out something important I ought to remember.

Reminds me of an episode of "Married with Children" where Kelly had so much crammed into her brain that anything new knocked something else out. So on the final question on a game show for all the money, she heard something new and forgot her father held the high school football TD record, something that he repeated ad nauseam

[Bogie Shooter]

Speaking of barleycorns,if your shoe size is a 10 then your foot is 10 barleycorns long.They use barleycorns to measure shoe size,WOW

Who is "they"?

[tomwed]

Who is "they"?
Buster Brown and Tide his friend

[Bogie Shooter]

Buster Brown and Tide his friend

His dog's name was Tige.

[outlaw]

Also, .08 is a joke. A drinker at .08 is much safer than many of our pill popping neighbors.

Yes. The government over reacted with these draconian laws. The local government passes out liquor licenses to every business, and every restaurant serves booze. Then the legal system sets up checkpoints to snare you. All to raise additional revenues, and to criminalize as many citizens as they can. you can't even walk home drunk, anymore, without risk getting arrested. DUIs are more vilified in this country than bank robbers. I mean, you can't even drink a beer while you're driving! Who gets drunk on one beer?

[tomwed]

His dog's name was Tige.
Well, he's really just a picture but it's fun to play pretend.

[golfing eagles]

Yes. The government over reacted with these draconian laws. The local government passes out liquor licenses to every business, and every restaurant serves booze. Then the legal system sets up checkpoints to snare you. All to raise additional revenues, and to criminalize as many citizens as they can. you can't even walk home drunk, anymore, without risk getting arrested. DUIs are more vilified in this country than bank robbers. I mean, you can't even drink a beer while you're driving! Who gets drunk on one beer?

I have no idea, but I did see on some other threads that law enforcement cannot issue citations for speeding (>20 mph) on MMPs because they are private property. If so, the same would hold true for DUI. When you hit a public street, you're fair game.
If this is true, my SECOND BEST advice , if you are stupid enough to drive drunk, is stay on the MMPs driving in circles and endangering the rest of us until you are sober:ohdear:
Seriously, my BEST AND ONLY advice is DO NOT DRIVE WHILE INTOXICATED, EVER. If you can afford to buy enough drinks at a bar to get drunk, you can afford a taxi ride home. Get you cart the next day.

[Bogie Shooter]

I have no idea, but I did see on some other threads that law enforcement cannot issue citations for speeding (>20 mph) on MMPs because they are private property. If so, the same would hold true for DUI. When you hit a public street, you're fair game.
If this is true, my SECOND BEST advice , if you are stupid enough to drive drunk, is stay on the MMPs driving in circles and endangering the rest of us until you are sober:ohdear:
Seriously, my BEST AND ONLY advice is DO NOT DRIVE WHILE INTOXICATED, EVER. If you can afford to buy enough drinks at a bar to get drunk, you can afford a taxi ride home. Get you cart the next day.

If a deputy sees you driving reckless on the MMP, he can stop you. This was a quote from Lt Neh.
Your advice should not be taken...........

[golfing eagles]

If a deputy sees you driving reckless on the MMP, he can stop you. This was a quote from Lt Neh.
Your advice should not be taken...........

My serious advice, not the tongue-in-cheek first part, should be taken by everyone

[Peggy Sullivan]

Could someone please tell me what the other newspaper is that the very one talks about

[CFrance]

Could someone please tell me what the other newspaper is that the very one talks about
TOTV will not print its url. It is villages dash online news dot com.

[Jima64]

Yes. The government over reacted with these draconian laws. The local government passes out liquor licenses to every business, and every restaurant serves booze. Then the legal system sets up checkpoints to snare you. All to raise additional revenues, and to criminalize as many citizens as they can. you can't even walk home drunk, anymore, without risk getting arrested. DUIs are more vilified in this country than bank robbers. I mean, you can't even drink a beer while you're driving! Who gets drunk on one beer?

And how many really only have one beer?