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Guest
10-14-2015, 06:24 AM
I tried, really tried but last night's democrat debate was just so sickening that I was about to gag.

Sanders was so adamant about his socialism that spittle was flying as he shouted. Remember the old Nazi films where Hitler was shouting and everyone in the audience threw up their arms and yelled "Heil"?

Hilary was in her element and was very well prepared. She shrugged off questions about her email blaming a Republican conspiracy, even when she was told that the FBI was investigating and Obama agreed that something needed to be done about the incident.

O'Malley was on the floor kissing Hilary's posterior and would jump up in the air to make a comment with bright eyes, every once in a while. His declaring Baltimore an improved city was just too much. He really seemed to believe it. He had a the craziest of grins on his face.

Chafee bobbed and threw his arms up, appearing like a large bird courting his mate. He always looked at Hilary as if asking permission to speak.

The only one that did not appear to be kissing Hilary's behind was Webb, who had to fight to get a chance to speak. And even then, they kept cutting him off at exactly 30 seconds, when others would drone on for minutes.

Hilary was cackling up a storm, reminiscent of Oz's wicked witch of the West. She was already Queen Hilary and her subjects were fighting to kiss her ring, or other.

They all felt that the wealthy weren't paying their fair share. Sanders had a new tax level he wants to impose on the rich. He also wants to penalize anyone on Wall St and make them pay for free college for everyone. He also wants Medicare for everyone (free). I thought it interesting when the moderator mentioned Sander's spending his honeymoon in the Soviet Union. He must have been in socialist heaven. Sanders also said that even though he was a draft dodger during Vietnam, he would make a good Commander-in-chief (and didn't mind sending other kids to war). He doesn't like banks and thinks they should be dismantled and broken into smaller banks.

Hilary believes we should go back to policies of her husband, which were instrumental in causing the recession, such as Dodd-Frank. It appears that everyone else at the debate felt the same way. After all, it was Bush's fault, as their mantra went, not Democrat policies. When Hilary was asked about her millions, she shrugged it off and informed everyone that she came from a poor family and worked hard for her money, and that everyone should have the same opportunity she had....blah, blah, blah.

They all felt that lots of gov jobs would improve the economy, paid for by the wealthy. Sanders was very adamant about rich people having too much money to spend, so they should share it. Sanders said big business should be broken up and dismantled because they were too powerful and rich. Hilary was cautious about that comment and mentioned that we needed to protect small mom and pop businesses.

Their foreign policy was let the Middle East implode/explode and talk harshly to Putin. When confronted with the fact that they endorsed the Iraqi war, they attempted to sidetrack it as best they could.

Sanders agreed with Obama that Global climate change was most dangerous to national security. Hilary said she hadn't made a decision on Keystone until she made a decision. Meaning, you can't hold me to any opinion.

Hilary felt that Republicans were the most dangerous to national security.

They were all anti-NRA except Webb. And bragged about their low NRA ratings.
They were all anti-law enforcement, blaming all criminal thug killings on over aggressive cops.
They were all for "black lives matter" and when asked if it should be "all lives matter" or "black lives matter" they were very adamant that it has to be "black lives matter." Sanders equated today's treatment of blacks with the '50's. He obviously lives in a world of his own. He said he was for affirmative action for BLACKS ONLY.

Debbie Whatshername was sitting in the front row of the audience and reminded me of Pelosi getting all excited when Obama would speak in congress. Debbie was clapping and smiling hysterically every time Hilary spoke, looking like something from a cheap horror movie.

I have to give the moderators credit. They asked some decent questions. It was not their fault if the master debaters :loco: refused to answer and diverted. Seems to be a liberal trend. I believe we are seeing the Democrat's worst representatives. The only worst one that was missing from the group was former Rep Alan Grayson.

Rather than continue to watch the Democrat Circus of Horrors, I switched channels to watch another comedy. The Democrat comedy was not funny at all when one realized that grown adults actually believed the stuff spewing from these candidates' mouths. So pathetic.

Guest
10-14-2015, 07:02 AM
You really should have watched the entire debate. After all, the next President of the United States was on the stage.

Guest
10-14-2015, 08:13 AM
Thanks for the wrap-up. I tried to watch it, really I did, but just like Obama's speeches, it put me right to sleep. Nothing but a bunch of phony politicians saying whatever might get them elected. Twisting and turning their viewpoints on a dime, Hillary being the master of them all where that's concerned.

Give me a real person who loves this country more than self and can lead (operative word here being lead) this country out of the ditch we've been pulled into - apparently that doesn't exist in the Democrat Party. I actually kind of felt sorry for them that this is apparently the best they have to offer.

Guest
10-14-2015, 09:15 AM
You really should have watched the entire debate. After all, the next President of the United States was on the stage.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest
10-14-2015, 09:22 AM
Clinton's PERFORMANCE in no way takes away all the bad that she represents....dishonest as ever in some of her remarks....arrogant by ignoring some......unethical going in and coming out.....and still lying.....

So they did a better job of dressing her up, so she did not look like a prison guard matron; fixed her hair for a change; and boy she must have spent a fortune for the make up and face lifts.

But when all gets said and done she is what she is...unethical...untrustworthy...lying....devious. ...self indulged hypocrite.

I must agree the choices are not good for dems unless they choose to cross party lines....and if Clinton should get the nomination, I predict that will happen.

She does not represent the American woman in any manner what so ever....other than the facr she is one.

Guest
10-14-2015, 09:22 AM
You really should have watched the entire debate. After all, the next President of the United States was on the stage.
I did not watch the debate until I watched the debate.

Guest
10-14-2015, 09:53 AM
Thanks for the wrap-up. I tried to watch it, really I did, but just like Obama's speeches, it put me right to sleep. Nothing but a bunch of phony politicians saying whatever might get them elected. Twisting and turning their viewpoints on a dime, Hillary being the master of them all where that's concerned.

Give me a real person who loves this country more than self and can lead (operative word here being lead) this country out of the ditch we've been pulled into - apparently that doesn't exist in the Democrat Party. I actually kind of felt sorry for them that this is apparently the best they have to offer.

Real person who loves country more than self, like Donald Trump? Or perhaps the clueless wonder Ben Carson.

Get ready to enjoy another 8 years of a Democrat in the White House.

Guest
10-14-2015, 09:59 AM
INTERESTING read on how the Obama campaign saw Ms Clnton during the 2008 primary and how they saw the way to defeat her. Not much has changed it would appear...

"And while it’s true that Obama had a superior organization and an optimistic message, the real beginning of the end for Hillary Clinton was when Obama attacked her greatest vulnerability: her character."

Part of the internal memo on how to beat her....

"“Change you can believe in” was intended to frame the argument along the character fault line, and this is where we can and must win this fight. We cannot let Clinton especially blur the lines on who is the genuine agent of change in this election.

• The reason Clinton can’t be trusted or believed when it comes to change is that she represents, to a great degree, the three sources of discontent formulated in our premise.

• She’s driven by political calculation not conviction, regularly backing away and shifting positions on issues ranging from war, to Social Security, to trade, to reform.

• She embodies trench warfare vs. Republicans, and is consumed with beating them rather than unifying the country and building consensus to get things done.


• She prides herself on working the system, not changing it—rebuffing reforms on everything from lobbyist donations to budget earmarks.


How to Beat Hillary Clinton - The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-to-beat-hillary-clinton)

You sort of wonder why, if he believed all of this that he used to beat her, why in the world he selected her for Secy of State.

Politics as usual !!!

Guest
10-14-2015, 10:20 AM
Real person who loves country more than self, like Donald Trump? Or perhaps the clueless wonder Ben Carson.

Get ready to enjoy another 8 years of a Democrat in the White House.

Did I mention Trump? As far as the offensive statement directed at the neurosurgeon, Dr. Ben Carson, I'm beginning to think you are a racist.

Guest
10-14-2015, 10:54 AM
INTERESTING read on how the Obama campaign saw Ms Clnton during the 2008 primary and how they saw the way to defeat her. Not much has changed it would appear...

"And while it’s true that Obama had a superior organization and an optimistic message, the real beginning of the end for Hillary Clinton was when Obama attacked her greatest vulnerability: her character."

Part of the internal memo on how to beat her....

"“Change you can believe in” was intended to frame the argument along the character fault line, and this is where we can and must win this fight. We cannot let Clinton especially blur the lines on who is the genuine agent of change in this election.

• The reason Clinton can’t be trusted or believed when it comes to change is that she represents, to a great degree, the three sources of discontent formulated in our premise.

• She’s driven by political calculation not conviction, regularly backing away and shifting positions on issues ranging from war, to Social Security, to trade, to reform.

• She embodies trench warfare vs. Republicans, and is consumed with beating them rather than unifying the country and building consensus to get things done.


• She prides herself on working the system, not changing it—rebuffing reforms on everything from lobbyist donations to budget earmarks.


How to Beat Hillary Clinton - The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-to-beat-hillary-clinton)

You sort of wonder why, if he believed all of this that he used to beat her, why in the world he selected her for Secy of State.

Politics as usual !!!

bee-eye-en-gee-oh!!!

Guest
10-14-2015, 11:24 AM
Thanks for the wrap-up. I tried to watch it, really I did, but just like Obama's speeches, it put me right to sleep. Nothing but a bunch of phony politicians saying whatever might get them elected. Twisting and turning their viewpoints on a dime, Hillary being the master of them all where that's concerned.

Give me a real person who loves this country more than self and can lead (operative word here being lead) this country out of the ditch we've been pulled into - apparently that doesn't exist in the Democrat Party. I actually kind of felt sorry for them that this is apparently the best they have to offer.

:agree:

Guest
10-14-2015, 11:25 AM
Clinton's PERFORMANCE in no way takes away all the bad that she represents....dishonest as ever in some of her remarks....arrogant by ignoring some......unethical going in and coming out.....and still lying.....

So they did a better job of dressing her up, so she did not look like a prison guard matron; fixed her hair for a change; and boy she must have spent a fortune for the make up and face lifts.

But when all gets said and done she is what she is...unethical...untrustworthy...lying....devious. ...self indulged hypocrite.

I must agree the choices are not good for dems unless they choose to cross party lines....and if Clinton should get the nomination, I predict that will happen.

She does not represent the American woman in any manner what so ever....other than the facr she is one.

:agree:

Guest
10-14-2015, 11:27 AM
Did I mention Trump? As far as the offensive statement directed at the neurosurgeon, Dr. Ben Carson, I'm beginning to think you are a racist.

:agree:

Guest
10-14-2015, 03:34 PM
It appeared that HRC was given the sum and substance of the questions beforehand. Her answers were at best, robotic and rehearsed. She started to talk without hesitation as if the "debate" was totally prearranged. There was absolutely NO debate. This was a show put on by CNN. Where was the back and forth? Where were the hardball questions? Were these people really candidates or panderers?

Not one idea to restore America's greatness was presented. We were spoon fed a load of Dem crap. primarily from a jovial bunch of backslappers who had no clue as to what this country needs. Which is a spine and a respected leader.

Guest
10-14-2015, 06:20 PM
I especially liked Clinton's comment about the pipeline...."...I didn't take a positio until I took a position..." She could almost not laugh.

And when accused of flip flopping she preferred to call it as she became more eduated one can change their position.

Very legal. Very Bullshi*y. Very Clinton.

All the dems want to rant and cheer that she won the debate. Not if one was looking for credibility she didn't!

Very phony person, phony looks and phony content. Ya can't make one into what it is not!!

Guest
10-14-2015, 06:31 PM
When the debate started, there was one admitted socialist, Sanders. By the end of the round table gathering, everyone in the room was a socialist, except Webb. First time I have ever heard the word socialist applauded. Never thought I would see this in America, where thousands of military members have died fighting socialism. Never thought there were that many LAZY young people in America.

Guest
10-14-2015, 07:10 PM
When the debate started, there was one admitted socialist, Sanders. By the end of the round table gathering, everyone in the room was a socialist, except Webb. First time I have ever heard the word socialist applauded. Never thought I would see this in America, where thousands of military members have died fighting socialism. Never thought there were that many LAZY young people in America.

"Clinton — and the rest of the Democratic field — provided, in full national view Tuesday, the party’s marked liberal shift on domestic issues in the seven short years since Barack Obama took the White House."

Read more: Clinton leans left in Las Vegas - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/hillary-clinton-las-vegas-debates-214810#ixzz3oafrOpRH)

Guest
10-14-2015, 10:08 PM
Real person who loves country more than self, like Donald Trump? Or perhaps the clueless wonder Ben Carson.

Get ready to enjoy another 8 years of a Democrat in the White House.

Yep, and it will still be Bush fault for 16 years! Any problems for the last 7 years on democrats! They own it. They have control for almost Two years before Obama, two years into Obama, and the only things they got done was sneak it pass without reading it.

How anybody could vote for one of the dumbest DS that said we need to pass it to see what's in it, is beyond me. How stupid can SF voters be? Guess your pretty stupid if you getting freebies and free pass on citizenship. But what do you expect from their voting base. Good old Harry kept over 300 bills and amendments from even reaching the senate for vote and they claim the other party party of no?

I bet there as lots of tingles down the legs last night by all the indoctrinated liberal sheep baaaaaaaaaaaa,

Guest
10-15-2015, 03:14 AM
Yep, and it will still be Bush fault for 16 years! Any problems for the last 7 years on democrats! They own it. They have control for almost Two years before Obama, two years into Obama, and the only things they got done was sneak it pass without reading it.

How anybody could vote for one of the dumbest DS that said we need to pass it to see what's in it, is beyond me. How stupid can SF voters be? Guess your pretty stupid if you getting freebies and free pass on citizenship. But what do you expect from their voting base. Good old Harry kept over 300 bills and amendments from even reaching the senate for vote and they claim the other party party of no?

I bet there as lots of tingles down the legs last night by all the indoctrinated liberal sheep baaaaaaaaaaaa,

:agree:

Guest
10-15-2015, 09:30 AM
Yap and yelp all you want but it definitely appears that Clinton will be the next President of the USA.

Geraldo Rivera stated on The Five yesterday that she has the Democrat nomination sewn up.

Keep up your yapping and yelping like a little scalded dog. It is amusing to read - until WE take away your Freedom of the Press. :wave:

Guest
10-15-2015, 09:46 AM
Yap and yelp all you want but it definitely appears that Clinton will be the next President of the USA.

Geraldo Rivera stated on The Five yesterday that she has the Democrat nomination sewn up.

Keep up your yapping and yelping like a little scalded dog. It is amusing to read - until WE take away your Freedom of the Press. :wave:


"......until WE take away your Freedom of the Press."

A threat you can believe in !!!

As far left as the media leans at times, this Democratic party simply loathes them and has made it clear and not any longer in the closet.

Guest
10-15-2015, 09:46 AM
Yep, and it will still be Bush fault for 16 years! Any problems for the last 7 years on democrats! They own it. They have control for almost Two years before Obama, two years into Obama, and the only things they got done was sneak it pass without reading it.

How anybody could vote for one of the dumbest DS that said we need to pass it to see what's in it, is beyond me. How stupid can SF voters be? Guess your pretty stupid if you getting freebies and free pass on citizenship. But what do you expect from their voting base. Good old Harry kept over 300 bills and amendments from even reaching the senate for vote and they claim the other party party of no?

I bet there as lots of tingles down the legs last night by all the indoctrinated liberal sheep baaaaaaaaaaaa,

Be careful, you are driving down a two way street. How dumb do you have to be to send a letter to a religious zealot saying you oppose an agreement your country and five others have agreed to before you even read it? Iran letter: Did 47 Republican senators break the law? - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/tom-cotton-iran-letter-logan-act/index.html)

You have the Hastert rule in the Republican House, so you know every bill sent to the senate had the Freedom Caucus prints all over it. Amazing isn't it that any bill that doesn't have a hint of bipartisan support will never see the light of day in the other house of congress. In the House, a bipartisan immigration bill never hit the floor for a vote. So, who is the problem?

Of the 300 bills, 54 were to repeal Obamacare. That is the gold standard of total insanity.

Guest
10-15-2015, 10:27 AM
And the record holder for holding up or blocking or just outright delaying any bill that did not suit the agenda?
Harry Reid.
Mr. Hypocrit himself.

It is guys and gals (Pelosi) that make one wonder just how do they get re-elected?

Can there be that many voters on the take of some kind or that many too stupid to not vote for an incompetent?

Guest
10-15-2015, 10:34 AM
And the record holder for holding up or blocking or just outright delaying any bill that did not suit the agenda?
Harry Reid.
Mr. Hypocrit himself.

It is guys and gals (Pelosi) that make one wonder just how do they get re-elected?

Can there be that many voters on the take of some kind or that many too stupid to not vote for an incompetent?

It just proves what I have said all along. America is raising a generation of LAZY. Time to invest in toilet paper. There will be a lot of socialists standing in line for toilet paper in a few years.

Guest
10-15-2015, 11:02 AM
And the record holder for holding up or blocking or just outright delaying any bill that did not suit the agenda?
Harry Reid.
Mr. Hypocrit himself.

It is guys and gals (Pelosi) that make one wonder just how do they get re-elected?

Can there be that many voters on the take of some kind or that many too stupid to not vote for an incompetent?

And the record for most filibusters is Mitch McConnell, and there isn't anyone even close. 3 Charts Explain Why Democrats Went Nuclear on the Filibuster | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/11/charts-explain-why-democrats-went-nuclear-filibuster)


You had better look at some of the out and out Republican morons that have been elected to the House!

Guest
10-15-2015, 12:37 PM
And the record for most filibusters is Mitch McConnell, and there isn't anyone even close. 3 Charts Explain Why Democrats Went Nuclear on the Filibuster | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/11/charts-explain-why-democrats-went-nuclear-filibuster)


You had better look at some of the out and out Republican morons that have been elected to the House!

My objection to this post is its implication.

It implies that one party is worse than the other, which is far from untrue. We are looking at many bills to be paid by our children and grandchildren because of manipulating rules and playing games.

Oh if it were that simple, i.e. Blame one party and move on. That's stupid, and what is scary is how many actually believe it.

Guest
10-15-2015, 12:46 PM
And the record for most filibusters is Mitch McConnell, and there isn't anyone even close. 3 Charts Explain Why Democrats Went Nuclear on the Filibuster | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/11/charts-explain-why-democrats-went-nuclear-filibuster)


You had better look at some of the out and out Republican morons that have been elected to the House!

They went nuclear because the Democrats are all crooks. They never wanted a compromise. They screamed "compromise" as they locked the doors and passed this monstrosity with only socialist votes. They didn't know what was in it, but Pelosi and Reid threatened them. It will have to be torn down because if not, the country will go bankrupt. Socialism doesn't work, and forcing someone to purchase a product is UN-American. But, the socialists will find out the hard way. They THINK socialism is the way to go, but that's just because the voters are LAZY and easily bought by the socialist elite. They don't know it yet, but to pay for all this free stuff, taxes will have to be levied on EVERYONE. They like it the way Europe is doing it? Well, wait until their payroll tax is a total of 55% of their pay and see how they like it. These wannabee socialists really need to see how the so-called middle class live overseas. Our poverty level families live as well as the middle class in some of those socialist countries. I can already hear them singing the blues......:sing:

Guest
10-15-2015, 01:00 PM
Dear Guests: My Dad like many Democrats of his time would be shattered to see how the Democratic Party has devolved .

The Democratic Debate was anything but a debate. It was a love fest orchestrated by the DNC and big donors to advertise for the candidate of their choice Hillary Clinton. In a real debate you attack your opponent's vulnerability. Bernie Sanders staged umbrage over Hillary being attacked because of her use of a personal server wasn't even the debate's nadair moment. What you heard at that debate was the Democratic National convention's agenda being announced.

If you watched what you witnessed was a party that argues in favor of socialism and against capitalism.

What you witnessed was a party that has made it clear it will continue its foreign policy of isolationism and hence continued reduction in our military defenses.

What you witnessed is a party that believes its real enemies are Republicans, climate change, guns and our economy into the public sector its moralistic ranting concerning Wall Street and the need for Wall Street executives to go to jail.

What you witnessed is a party that is so disengaged from the private sector that it continues to compress our economy into the public sector one in which they can totally control

What you witnessed is the leading candidate in opposition to the Trans Pacific Partnership abandoning its free trade commitments dating back to the Reciprocal Tariff Act of 1934

What you didn't hear was a cogent plan on how effectively all of this will become a reality and who is going to pay for it.

What you may have determined is that if any Democrat is elected it will be just a continuation of the Obama policies.

What you may have determined is that if a Democrat is elected again America will become another Greece.

And to add to just how desperate this party has become "Crazy Joe is there go to guy.

God help us all

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
10-15-2015, 01:32 PM
Dear Guests: My Dad like many Democrats of his time would be shattered to see how the Democratic Party has devolved .

The Democratic Debate was anything but a debate. It was a love fest orchestrated by the DNC and big donors to advertise for the candidate of their choice Hillary Clinton. In a real debate you attack your opponent's vulnerability. Bernie Sanders staged umbrage over Hillary being attacked because of her use of a personal server wasn't even the debate's nadair moment. What you heard at that debate was the Democratic National convention's agenda being announced.

If you watched what you witnessed was a party that argues in favor of socialism and against capitalism.

What you witnessed was a party that has made it clear it will continue its foreign policy of isolationism and hence continued reduction in our military defenses.

What you witnessed is a party that believes its real enemies are Republicans, climate change, guns and our economy into the public sector its moralistic ranting concerning Wall Street and the need for Wall Street executives to go to jail.

What you witnessed is a party that is so disengaged from the private sector that it continues to compress our economy into the public sector one in which they can totally control

What you witnessed is the leading candidate in opposition to the Trans Pacific Partnership abandoning its free trade commitments dating back to the Reciprocal Tariff Act of 1934

What you didn't hear was a cogent plan on how effectively all of this will become a reality and who is going to pay for it.

What you may have determined is that if any Democrat is elected it will be just a continuation of the Obama policies.

What you may have determined is that if a Democrat is elected again America will become another Greece.

And to add to just how desperate this party has become "Crazy Joe is there go to guy.

God help us all

Personal Best Regards:

:agree:

Guest
10-15-2015, 02:57 PM
And the record for most filibusters is Mitch McConnell, and there isn't anyone even close. 3 Charts Explain Why Democrats Went Nuclear on the Filibuster | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/11/charts-explain-why-democrats-went-nuclear-filibuster)


You had better look at some of the Democrat and Republican morons that have been elected to the House!

I have taken the liberty to edit your post for accuracy!!

Guest
10-15-2015, 03:35 PM
My objection to this post is its implication.

It implies that one party is worse than the other, which is far from untrue. We are looking at many bills to be paid by our children and grandchildren because of manipulating rules and playing games.

Oh if it were that simple, i.e. Blame one party and move on. That's stupid, and what is scary is how many actually believe it.

Take a look at the post that this was a response. Why didn't you object to that post? The person that is guilty of the original violation of the rules is never caught. But the person that retaliates is always caught. Sounds like that is not the sole inhabitant of the sporting world.

Guest
10-15-2015, 03:40 PM
If true, this surely answers a ton of questions ....

"The Democratic National Committee is 'clearing a path' for Hillary Clinton to be its presidential nominee because its upper power echelons are populated with women, according to a female committee member who was in Las Vegas for Tuesday's primary debate.
Speaking on the condition that she isn't identified, she told Daily Mail Online that the party is in the tank for Clinton, and the women who run the organization decided it 'early on.'

The committeewoman is supporting one of Hillary's rivals for the Democratic nomination, and said she spoke freely because she believes the former Secretary of State is benefiting from unfair favoritism inside the party.


Democratic National Committeewoman says her party is 'clearing a path' for Hillary Clinton | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3273404/Democratic-National-Committeewoman-says-party-clearing-path-Hillary-women-charge-want-way.html)

Guest
10-15-2015, 03:41 PM
They went nuclear because the Democrats are all crooks. They never wanted a compromise. They screamed "compromise" as they locked the doors and passed this monstrosity with only socialist votes. They didn't know what was in it, but Pelosi and Reid threatened them. It will have to be torn down because if not, the country will go bankrupt. Socialism doesn't work, and forcing someone to purchase a product is UN-American. But, the socialists will find out the hard way. They THINK socialism is the way to go, but that's just because the voters are LAZY and easily bought by the socialist elite. They don't know it yet, but to pay for all this free stuff, taxes will have to be levied on EVERYONE. They like it the way Europe is doing it? Well, wait until their payroll tax is a total of 55% of their pay and see how they like it. These wannabee socialists really need to see how the so-called middle class live overseas. Our poverty level families live as well as the middle class in some of those socialist countries. I can already hear them singing the blues......:sing:

All this is is a rant with no detail to back it up. Provide the links from a creditable source to support your rant.

Guest
10-15-2015, 10:06 PM
All this is is a rant with no detail to back it up. Provide the links from a creditable source to support your rant.

Once again, a lazy liberal requiring assistance.

Guest
10-15-2015, 10:20 PM
Once again, a lazy liberal requiring assistance.

...or a regurgitating Regressive.

Guest
10-16-2015, 03:57 AM
...or a regurgitating Regressive.

Nope, he can't be a "regressive." He's not a socialist/liberal so the term regressive hardly fits. After all, socialism is the old, REGRESSIVE ideology. Nice try, but really you should contact your special needs center and get your money back for your failed education.

Guest
10-16-2015, 04:41 AM
If true, this surely answers a ton of questions ....

"The Democratic National Committee is 'clearing a path' for Hillary Clinton to be its presidential nominee because its upper power echelons are populated with women, according to a female committee member who was in Las Vegas for Tuesday's primary debate.
Speaking on the condition that she isn't identified, she told Daily Mail Online that the party is in the tank for Clinton, and the women who run the organization decided it 'early on.'

The committeewoman is supporting one of Hillary's rivals for the Democratic nomination, and said she spoke freely because she believes the former Secretary of State is benefiting from unfair favoritism inside the party.


Democratic National Committeewoman says her party is 'clearing a path' for Hillary Clinton | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3273404/Democratic-National-Committeewoman-says-party-clearing-path-Hillary-women-charge-want-way.html)

Dear Guest:

I totally agree with you and want to thank you for the link.

It is just a mystery to me why people can't see what is right in front of them. Why is it many people can't read in between the lines anymore? Why is it they believe a politician's promise without challenge?

I am a registered Republican but there is not one Republican politician's message that won't be challenged and dissected by me for its truthfulness and effect.

Too many voters don't pay attention to more detail. They don't understand or care about the effect such policies offered by candidates will have on them? Too many eligible voters are disconnected and pay attention more to celebrity nonsense than who will be their next president. These are dangerous people because they have the right to vote but lack the intelligence or fortitude to carry out their responsibilities.

This sort of person has reaped the benefits and safety while living in our democracy without any thought that the support they offer is to politicians that want to take away their freedoms. In other words ho can you support a socialist program that eventually will have the federal government controlling every aspect of your lives. Its happening now under the Obama administration.

One other point of interest that we learned during the Democratic debate the other night is that the two leading Democratic candidates HATE Republicans. Now there is a nice beginning for a president that wants to represent all of the people. with such an admission on television how can either declare they would be uniters?

The state of this nation is in very serious and dangerous territory and voters better take heed

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
10-16-2015, 07:02 AM
When you ask a Republican candidate something controversial regarding differences in ideology, they might say something negative about a particular Democrat. When you ask a Democrat candidate something controversial in regards to ideology, they blame the whole Republican party and will even admit "hating" all Republicans. Spewing poison.
When Obama is interviewed, he slurs the Republicans constantly and blames Bush for anything that he can't cope with. When you interview Bush, you NEVER hear him say anything negative about Obama or the ultra liberals in congress.

The difference is Class, along with maturity.

The Democrat candidates are pushing hate, discontent, and inequality in everything. They are greedy and selfish, resentful of those that are better than them. Their idea of foreign policy is to become isolationists, ignore the rest of the world. Their answer for unemployment is more gov jobs, and higher benefits for the lazy. Their answer for income inequality is higher taxes for those providing jobs, such as the wealthy, Wall St, Oil, and break up the large banking institutions. Their answer to home sales, is to replicate what caused the last housing bubble, bad mortgage loans for those that can't afford a home. Their answer for high college tuition is to make college free, paid by raising taxes some more. Their answer for violence is to get rid of tools for self-defense, instead of working on mental illness, the cause of violence. The answer for minority crime, is to punish the COPs. What kind of bizzoro world do these liberals/socialists live in?

Guest
10-16-2015, 08:08 AM
When you ask a Republican candidate something controversial regarding differences in ideology, they might say something negative about a particular Democrat. When you ask a Democrat candidate something controversial in regards to ideology, they blame the whole Republican party and will even admit "hating" all Republicans. Spewing poison.
When Obama is interviewed, he slurs the Republicans constantly and blames Bush for anything that he can't cope with. When you interview Bush, you NEVER hear him say anything negative about Obama or the ultra liberals in congress.

The difference is Class, along with maturity.

The Democrat candidates are pushing hate, discontent, and inequality in everything. They are greedy and selfish, resentful of those that are better than them. Their idea of foreign policy is to become isolationists, ignore the rest of the world. Their answer for unemployment is more gov jobs, and higher benefits for the lazy. Their answer for income inequality is higher taxes for those providing jobs, such as the wealthy, Wall St, Oil, and break up the large banking institutions. Their answer to home sales, is to replicate what caused the last housing bubble, bad mortgage loans for those that can't afford a home. Their answer for high college tuition is to make college free, paid by raising taxes some more. Their answer for violence is to get rid of tools for self-defense, instead of working on mental illness, the cause of violence. The answer for minority crime, is to punish the COPs. What kind of bizzoro world do these liberals/socialists live in?

This is a pretty doggone good assessment.

I, and others, have grown so weary of the "smear them ALL" attitude.

Guest
10-16-2015, 08:36 AM
This is a pretty doggone good assessment.

I, and others, have grown so weary of the "smear them ALL" attitude.

But we will continue to smear all them goldurn libruls as much as our little Tea Bag brains can allow.

Guest
10-16-2015, 08:57 AM
But we will continue to smear all them goldurn libruls as much as our little Tea Bag brains can allow.

WE are not the President of the United States !!!

WE are simple posters on TOTV.

If you cannot see the difference, not sense in explaining it.

Guest
10-16-2015, 09:04 AM
But we will continue to smear all them goldurn libruls as much as our little Tea Bag brains can allow.

It is noteable that you have excluded using "lyin libruls" from previous posts.

Guest
10-16-2015, 09:14 AM
WE are not the President of the United States !!!

WE are simple posters on TOTV.

If you cannot see the difference, not sense in explaining it.

Yes, I do agree. YOU are quite simple!

Guest
10-16-2015, 10:10 AM
Yes, I do agree. YOU are quite simple!

It only takes a rather quick look through many of the posts on this forum to see who is "simple"and who is not. Those who are NOT simple post thoughtfully, with context, and often with links to support their post. Those who are simple or at least appear to be, post with short, sarcastic sentences with no substance, often not even related to the subject matter.

In perusing many of the posts on here, I often feel bad for those liberals (at least some that I know) that would not post such simple, antagonistic posts, but rather ones with more substance. I may not agree with their liberal stance but it's nice to converse once in awhile with those with opposing viewpoints, operative word being converse. I wonder if posters like many that we see on here scare away the less simple minded because they don't want to be lumped in with the group that is often reflected in this forum. If so, it's really too bad because by continuing the same back and forth that we often see on this forum, we all lose, as a people and as a country.

Guest
10-16-2015, 12:27 PM
It only takes a rather quick look through many of the posts on this forum to see who is "simple"and who is not. Those who are NOT simple post thoughtfully, with context, and often with links to support their post. Those who are simple or at least appear to be, post with short, sarcastic sentences with no substance, often not even related to the subject matter.

In perusing many of the posts on here, I often feel bad for those liberals (at least some that I know) that would not post such simple, antagonistic posts, but rather ones with more substance. I may not agree with their liberal stance but it's nice to converse once in awhile with those with opposing viewpoints, operative word being converse. I wonder if posters like many that we see on here scare away the less simple minded because they don't want to be lumped in with the group that is often reflected in this forum. If so, it's really too bad because by continuing the same back and forth that we often see on this forum, we all lose, as a people and as a country.

:agree: totally.

Guest
10-16-2015, 12:39 PM
It only takes a rather quick look through many of the posts on this forum to see who is "simple"and who is not. Those who are NOT simple post thoughtfully, with context, and often with links to support their post. Those who are simple or at least appear to be, post with short, sarcastic sentences with no substance, often not even related to the subject matter.

In perusing many of the posts on here, I often feel bad for those liberals (at least some that I know) that would not post such simple, antagonistic posts, but rather ones with more substance. I may not agree with their liberal stance but it's nice to converse once in awhile with those with opposing viewpoints, operative word being converse. I wonder if posters like many that we see on here scare away the less simple minded because they don't want to be lumped in with the group that is often reflected in this forum. If so, it's really too bad because by continuing the same back and forth that we often see on this forum, we all lose, as a people and as a country.

You don't know how correct you are.

My liberal friends are actually embarrassed, not entertained by, the majority of the liberal posters on here.

They fall into catagories, as one of my friends described...

A. Those who remain totally stuck in G. Bush years, unable to understand our different world.

B. Those who simply, no matter the subject,yell "tea ******" and run, and it matters not whether it is an issue that those folks even care about.

C. Those who simply want to call someone a name, whether it be bigotry, racist or whatever makes them feel satisfied inside.