Log in

View Full Version : WOW...Sen Biden tells a man in a wheelchair to stand up


Guest
09-13-2008, 10:55 PM
I am not sure what to say about this....I, actually, feel for Sen Biden !!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4

Guest
09-14-2008, 12:50 AM
Yes, it was just a mistake, but can you imagine if a Republican said this?? We would never hear the end of it.

Guest
09-14-2008, 01:25 AM
SALLYJO...had to say it but IMHO had Gov Palin or Sen McCain done this,there would be many many more posts on here and the usual cracks about whatever.

Yes it was an unfortunate mistake and as I said I really felt for Sen Biden.

Guest
09-14-2008, 01:36 AM
Yes, it was just a mistake, but can you imagine if a Republican said this?? We would never hear the end of it.


Well really....he wasn't like he was looking right at the guy, seeing him in a wheelchair and telling him to stand up. Perhaps he didn't know he was in a wheelchair....

please we have all made mistake and yes Bucco I felt bad for Biden too....

My guess is Sally Jo that no one would have said anything if a republican had done this...after watching the video...very clear that it was a mistake....

If Palin or McCain or even Obama could fix it as fast as Biden then I would be impressed....he is a real gentleman and would never intentionally do that...

Guest
09-14-2008, 01:47 AM
Well really....he wasn't like he was looking right at the guy, seeing him in a wheelchair and telling him to stand up. Perhaps he didn't know he was in a wheelchair....

please we have all made mistake and yes Bucco I felt bad for Biden too....

My guess is Sally Jo that no one would have said anything if a republican had done this...after watching the video...very clear that it was a mistake....

If Palin or McCain or even Obama could fix it as fast as Biden then I would be impressed....he is a real gentleman and would never intentionally do that...
__________________________________________________ _________________-

PLEASE...I can hear it now....if Gov Palin had done this....she is not prepared..she should have known this before she opened her mouth. Oh and did you hear her daughter is pregnant....if Sen McCain had done it....that old man is just too old...come on now.

I said I felt bad for Sen Biden and am not going to critique him for it, but get real PLEASE....have you read the posts on this board ? Where are you reading ?

SALLYJO's point was right on. READ THE SLAMS ON GOV PALIN ALONE. Then add the shots at Sen McCains age, etc. WOW...you have very selective reading skills !

Again I posted this as something worthy to see, not as a critique but dont be so naive....the comments on Gov Palin's family alone and her mothering skills....etc make your post just not valid !

Guest
09-14-2008, 01:54 AM
I ofcourse beg to differ....I WATCHED to video! Again it was not as if he was looking at the man.....and intentionally told a man in a wheelchair to stand up! Geeze Bucco! GMAB!


You even said you felt bad for him....yes he should have been prepared! He probably felt horrible....as he should....but I was just trying to human about it!!

Stop acting like you think you know ME....and my thoughts!

Guest
09-14-2008, 05:03 AM
It's clear that Joe Biden made a mistake and took complete control of the situation in a very elegant way. I applaud him. :clap2:

Guest
09-14-2008, 10:22 AM
I do believe Biden handled the gaffe beautifully. I also believe that his staff did a very poor job of prepping him if they had the name of the state senator but didn't mention any physical issues.

As to what would have been said had the gaffe been Palin's, we don't know. She may have been given credit for handling the error with style and grace (and I do believe she would have been able to do that). She may have been blasted out of the water.

Whatever the case, Biden made a mistake, he recovered and turned the mistake into a class act.

Guest
09-14-2008, 10:36 AM
:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:


Thank you Red! I agree.....we don't have any idea what would have been said...by us on TOTV....or by anyone else....

Guest
09-14-2008, 11:59 AM
I am sure Senator Biden was as embarrased as can a person can be. He handled it in a very polished and professional manner. He made a mistake. He is human. I am a republican, he is a democrat. We are both human.

Guest
09-14-2008, 12:29 PM
Oh well.

Stuff happens.

My sister asked a woman who works at the bank when her baby was due.

The woman was not pregnant. (She was wearing one of those most unattractive, though quite fashionable I guess, babydoll tops. It sure looked like a hatchin' jacket to my sister who may never go into that bank again.)

We are all human.

Boomer

Guest
09-14-2008, 12:42 PM
I just want to make one thing clear....

NOBODY
NOBODY
NOBODY
AT ANY TIME
AT ANY TIME
AT ANY TIME

Criticized Sen Biden.....NOR make fun of Sen Biden....NEVER EVER even implied. Those of you who felt obligated to defend Sen Biden wasted your typing.

The ONLY reason there were any posts on this was becasue of this...

"My guess is Sally Jo that no one would have said anything if a republican had done this...after watching the video...very clear that it was a mistake..."

WOW.....such defensive folks

Guest
09-14-2008, 12:50 PM
Yes, it was just a mistake, but can you imagine if a Republican said this?? We would never hear the end of it.


No Bucco....this is why I all felt the need to defend.....

Guest
09-14-2008, 12:53 PM
Cassie...dont want to discuss this any longer, but to my knowledge there are no posts here about Sen Obama personally or his family.....no posts EXCEPT for those defending Gov Palin about Sen Biden personally or his family.

There ARE MANY posts here about Sen McCain and Gov Palin PERSONALLY and their families even...that is what Sallyjo made the comment about. !!!!!

Guest
09-14-2008, 06:01 PM
I am cringing with embarassment for Sen Biden. He certainly tried hard to smooth over his error and I applaud him for that. I bet all of us have said or done something we instantly regret.

Politicians, like all of us, are imperfect human beings. Let's give them all, Dem and Republican, some slack!

Guest
09-14-2008, 09:49 PM
Cassie...dont want to discuss this any longer, but to my knowledge there are no posts here about Sen Obama personally or his family.....no posts EXCEPT for those defending Gov Palin about Sen Biden personally or his family.

There ARE MANY posts here about Sen McCain and Gov Palin PERSONALLY and their families even...that is what Sallyjo made the comment about. !!!!!


Are kidding me...do you know how many people are trying to say that because he has a Muslim biological father and has some ties to the Muslim community that there is something wrong!! You don't think this is a personal attack!!
:confused::confused::confused:

Guest
09-15-2008, 03:20 PM
Are kidding me...do you know how many people are trying to say that because he has a Muslim biological father and has some ties to the Muslim community that there is something wrong!! You don't think this is a personal attack!!
__________________________________________________ ________________________

Under the current circumstances in the world, you dont think a hard look at any muslim connected candidate for President of the United States is a worth endeavor ?

I dont think he is muslim at all, but lets be honest.....this man has no track record at all...a very checkered past as far as relationships with radicals and radical groups....THIS IS AN ISSUE and not personal attacks. I have never heard anyone attack him on a personal level at all....these are questions about his core idealogy.

Guest
09-15-2008, 04:49 PM
This is a non-issue because it's ludicrous and simply not true! NO MUSLIM TIES!

Like I said to Mucci, "STOP THE MADNESS!"

Guest
09-15-2008, 06:43 PM
This is a non-issue because it's ludicrous and simply not true! NO MUSLIM TIES!

Like I said to Mucci, "STOP THE MADNESS!"
__________________________________________________ ________________-

Ok Chelsea...you just dont seem to read very well sometimes :) I, personally, have NEVER EVER said that Sen Obama was a muslim..in no way. I certainly question his past associations but never mentioned religion.

My point in this post was that in todays climate a look at ties to a muslim climate would happen no matter who the candidate especially one who grew up in such proximity to that religion. It is that simple !!!

Guest
09-15-2008, 06:51 PM
This is a non-issue because it's ludicrous and simply not true! NO MUSLIM TIES!

Like I said to Mucci, "STOP THE MADNESS!"
__________________________________________________ ________________-

Ok Chelsea...you just dont seem to read very well sometimes :) I, personally, have NEVER EVER said that Sen Obama was a muslim..in no way. I certainly question his past associations but never mentioned religion.

My point in this post was that in todays climate a look at ties to a muslim climate would happen no matter who the candidate especially one who grew up in such proximity to that religion. It is that simple !!!

Bucco....that is stating that anyone who grew up Muslim or in close proximity to that heritage should be questioned...don't you think that is a little extreme! That (IMHO) says that if someone running for office is German or knows a lot of Germans...that perhaps they have ties to Hitler...and I am sure there are many other examples we can give. That does not seem to be very open minded....or fair!

Guest
09-15-2008, 06:54 PM
Bucco....that is stating that anyone who grew up Muslim or in close proximity to that heritage should be questioned
__________________________________________________ ______--

If they are running for President of the US in this environment where extremist of that religion are beheading and killing throughtout the world....YES !

Guest
09-15-2008, 06:55 PM
Remember, I am responding to your note...I have never ever not once questioned Sen Obamas faith at all....but in todays climate to think that a muslim or someone with close association with muslims would not be looked at is sort of naive, dont you think ?>

Guest
09-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Remember, I am responding to your note...I have never ever not once questioned Sen Obamas faith at all....but in todays climate to think that a muslim or someone with close association with muslims would not be looked at is sort of naive, dont you think ?>

I am sure that there are MANY Muslims that would take extreme offense to this! I think that you are being somewhat racist...against the Muslims. Again..this is my opinion. It just doesn't seem right! Perhaps if there was some sort of PROOF that Obama was involved himself in some sort of extremist group that had plans to attack the USA...then I would think twice...probably think NO WAY! But in fact he HIMSELF has never been a member of or involved with any such organizations. Perhaps someone he knew ended up in a group that might have been at one point considered a possibilty....and he then fired him....well....that is a little far fetching.

Do you have some proof that Obama, himself, was part of some sort of organized extremist group? I don't think I have seen that....

I read about ONE person....who is no longer with Obama...

Guest
09-15-2008, 09:37 PM
some sort of PROOF that Obama was involved himself in some sort of extremist group that had plans to attack the USA...then I would think twice..
__________________________________________________ ____________---

You would think TWICE if you found that the man who would be President of the United States was involved in some sort of extremist group that had plans to attack the USA ?

Thanks for that !!!!!

You have not read any of my links have you? I never nor has anyone ever said something so dramatic as you are implying. All I am talking about is radical left wing ideology !!!

Guest
09-15-2008, 09:51 PM
It was a bush league gaff............An typical of Biden....An old world politician that shoots first and then asks questions later...........

Guest
09-15-2008, 10:06 PM
He made a mistake and in my opinion handled it very well. I'm sure he was embarrassed. Sadly this is yet another example of how this campaign is going. There is a tendency to make much out of nothing and in so doing to ignore the things that should be important.

When did we last hear candidates mention border security, illegal aliens or the drug problem in this country What are they going to do about the burden imposed on our military who are stretched so thin?

How will they fix our economy? I doubt a tax increase on just the wealthiest 2% will do it all but it sure sounds great to the rest us us in the other 98%.

Have you heard any mention lately about term limits? The increasing list of important issues does not get addressed and the focus of media stays on sound bites, gaffs and misstatements.

The Saturday Night Live spoof got loads of media attention but really has nothing to do with what should be important to us as a nation. We seem to have lost our sense of what matters, or should matter.

Guest
09-16-2008, 08:54 PM
some sort of PROOF that Obama was involved himself in some sort of extremist group that had plans to attack the USA...then I would think twice..
__________________________________________________ ____________---

You would think TWICE if you found that the man who would be President of the United States was involved in some sort of extremist group that had plans to attack the USA ?

Thanks for that !!!!!

You have not read any of my links have you? I never nor has anyone ever said something so dramatic as you are implying. All I am talking about is radical left wing ideology !!!

Bucco...give me a break...it is just an expression...you don't think that I want what is best for this country too! Just because you and I believe that what is best for the country isn't the same as each other doesn't mean that my heart is not in it!!

Bucco...."then I would think twice" is just an expression! Of course if I heard and saw proof from a reputable bipartisan person...then I would think twice...or re-think...my vote. I don't imagine any person would truly WANT that for our country! I think you knew what I meant!!