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Guest
09-27-2008, 07:04 AM
Following the debate Joe Biden agreed to make the "Republican response" to the debate. Governor Palin was offered the same opportunity by CNN, but her campaign declined. Rudy Giuliani presented the Democratic response.

Isn't the "protection" being provided by the Republican campaign managers bothering anyone? If McCain is elected she will be "one heartbeat away". If those that know her best don't believe that she is competent to even extemporaneously submit to media questions only three months before inauguration day, isn't that a concern to anyone?

Guest
09-27-2008, 07:30 AM
Yep!

Guest
09-27-2008, 07:41 AM
I am very concerned about her obvious inability to speak extemporaneously.

Guest
09-27-2008, 07:44 AM
This should be bothering everyone! IMHO you could've thrown a dart at a phone book page and come up with someone more qualified than Palin. But this is serious, very serious. It is my sincere wish that all "staunch" Republicans, take a breath and think about this woman up against the leaders of this dangerous world we live in. This country's beloved Tim Russett died in the blink of an eye, still in his prime. McCain is 72 years old. If people really want to put "Country First" they must consider all ramifications of this ticket.

The choice of Sarah Palin as V.P. goes directly to the poor and impulsive judgment of McCain. He is known for impulsive judgments. The world today is much too dangerous for this kind of crap shoot. :(

Guest
09-27-2008, 07:46 AM
Following the debate Joe Biden agreed to make the "Republican response" to the debate. Governor Palin was offered the same opportunity by CNN, but her campaign declined. Rudy Giuliani presented the Democratic response.

Isn't the "protection" being provided by the Republican campaign managers bothering anyone? If McCain is elected she will be "one heartbeat away". If those that know her best don't believe that she is competent to even extemporaneously submit to media questions only three months before inauguration day, isn't that a concern to anyone?

Because she's basically not too bright!! And , "the handlers" don't WANT her to speak, she'll expose the "REAL PALIN" and that will speak volumns about McCain's judgement on who will replace him if something happens to this 73 yr old melanoma cancer survivor.

Guest
09-27-2008, 08:29 AM
I never, ever slip into this political site, although I read it.

However, after the Couric/Palin interview, I am a very unhappy frightened camper.
To me, it is just one more big spiraling step down our country's ladder.

Guest
09-27-2008, 09:13 AM
My brother is mayor of a small town twice the size of hers. I don't know why he can't be the VP.

Guest
09-27-2008, 09:36 AM
Conn, :agree::coolsmiley::clap2:

Guest
09-27-2008, 09:37 AM
My brother is mayor of a small town twice the size of hers. I don't know why he can't be the VP.

He surely can but I suppose he will have to serve a few years as Governor :)

Guest
09-27-2008, 01:09 PM
He surely can but I suppose he will have to serve a few years as Governor :)

I hear that 20 months is all that is required and he must live next door to Russia.:1rotfl:

Guest
09-27-2008, 02:58 PM
I was reading on CNN that even the arch conservative leaders of the Republican party that were praising her a couple weeks ago, are now calling for her to resign, saying she's out of her league.

Guest
09-27-2008, 04:07 PM
It is the same reason that they are not letting Sen. Obama take part in the series of Town Hall Meetings that Sen. McCain suggested.

Guest
09-27-2008, 05:05 PM
It is the same reason that they are not letting Sen. Obama take part in the series of Town Hall Meetings that Sen. McCain suggested.

I don’t think so. McCain is more comfortable in a town hall setting than a structured debate scenario. Why would Obama intentionally give McCain an edge? This is all about being in an environment conducive to comfort and nothing to do with either candidate’s ability to B.S. their way through it. Unfortunately Palin doesn’t have the background or experience to B.S. her way on a national playing field with any credibility.

Guest
09-27-2008, 05:27 PM
And who would those arch conservatives be, I'm curious?


I Have no intention of joining the political discussion but I did happen to read this article on line yesterday.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=

Guest
09-29-2008, 11:28 AM
For those who take great stock in debates, Oct 2 should prove interesting.

I have fewer problems with Gov. Palin not being a foreign policy guru than I do with Sen. Biden not having domestic operations expertise.

The ivory tower that the Senate is makes for little concern for the common man. The longer one resides in the "100-Club" the more distant one becomes to the common man and his situation.

I like having at least one person who knows and is part of that "common man" society. While all of the others look down upon the land from on high and measure their portfolios in 7 and 8 digits of value, at least there is one person whose feet are on the earth with the rest of us. Politics at the national level should not be the private turf of millionaires' row....

Guest
09-29-2008, 03:23 PM
It's pretty evident Sarah Palin will not go on any televised show (Meet the Press, etc.) because she is not qualified to answer their questions; and when she gets flustered, her neck gets red & blotchy--just my observation). My husband commanded a small air force reserve base that had more reserve members than the total number of Air National Guard members in Alaska. BTW, the Guard in Alaska has problems meeting their quota of maintaining their number of Guard members. The two-star general there is "in charge" of the Guard members, except for when there is a crisis within the state of Alaska (then Palin would take over).

Guest
09-29-2008, 05:32 PM
My brother is mayor of a small town twice the size of hers. I don't know why he can't be the VP.


Because he's not a female!

Guest
09-29-2008, 05:54 PM
It's beginning to seem that Gov. Palin is taking a lot of grief because she is personable and more.

Perhaps if she looked like Michael Moore in drag and sounded like Rosie O'Donnell when mad, her support base may be larger.

Yes, I expect flak over this comment, but from reading a lot of the posts, they are very catty and gender-demeaning of a person who has more political success than many others, gender notwithstanding.

Guest
09-29-2008, 08:35 PM
"personable and more"! So Steveo, what's the "more" your are referring to?

In the corporate world we referred to people like her as "grippers and grinners". A smile and a handshake and no depth beyond that. They are all personable but not much "more" is there.

She's clueless and that's the problem!

The good news she isn't running for president. McCain is' and just two weeks ago today he stated "the fundamentals of the economy are strong".

Great pair!

Guest
09-29-2008, 08:43 PM
The good news she isn't running for president. McCain is' and just two weeks ago today he stated "the fundamentals of the economy are strong".

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I am sure this is my naive attitude with this economic stuff, but what I read has nothing to do with the fundamentals of the economy being weak...fact is I have heard folks from both parties say so.

This has more to do with greed within the system and lack of someone watching the store, NOT the fundamentals !

Guest
09-29-2008, 09:07 PM
It's beginning to seem that Gov. Palin is taking a lot of grief because she is personable and more.

Perhaps if she looked like Michael Moore in drag and sounded like Rosie O'Donnell when mad, her support base may be larger.

Yes, I expect flak over this comment, but from reading a lot of the posts, they are very catty and gender-demeaning of a person who has more political success than many others, gender notwithstanding.

FYI SteveZ, this entire post is sexist. My disdain for Palin has nothing to do with her looks or being catty. It has everything to do with her lack of knowledge on the issues, her obvious lack of judgment in accepting a position she's not qualified for, her extreme right wing views, and her condescending contempt for women. I don't see her as a female role model or hero for daughters or young girls to look up to. I see her as a "win at any cost", devious, uninformed liar. ahhhhhhhh, that felt good. :laugh:

Guest
09-29-2008, 09:39 PM
But, Chels, when one compares Sarah Palin to the bumbling, not on the same page as Mr. Obama, been on the government dole for a long, long time, other vice-presidental candidate with more nips, tucks and hair transplants than Sarah, she looks darn good. :1rotfl:

Thankfully, this election will be over shortly but our problems will be huge for whomever wins.

Guest
09-29-2008, 09:44 PM
The debate about Palin will be silenced after Thursday's debate. Let's wait and see...it will be a no-contest. Palin has no chance.

Guest
09-29-2008, 09:46 PM
That may be true, Bright, if Biden can remember where Obama stands on the issues. :shrug: He had some big missteps last week...

Guest
09-29-2008, 09:53 PM
It's very simple. They keep her away from the media as much as they can because even if she said the sky is blue they would find a way to rip her apart for saying it. She's a white female Christian pro life conservative and the far left including the media hates her with a passion because of it.

Have you seen the footage of some of the far left liberal Hollywood types and others calling her names like a B_____ and even worse? You may disagree with her politics but what did she do to deserve that?

I think they hate her more than Bush. Why? If she's so incompetent, all they have to do is sit back and watch her loose the election for the GOP. Easy as pie, I'd think the Dems would be happy about it instead of so down right mean and nasty.

Guest
09-29-2008, 10:06 PM
If Palin is so competent then why is she at a "Debate Boot Camp"? She needs educating...that is not debatable.

Sure wish I could see other's posts to refer back to as I type. Any way to do that like it was in the other forum? Would be a nice perk.

Guest
09-29-2008, 10:09 PM
I think they hate her more than Bush. Why? If she's so incompetent, all they have to do is sit back and watch her loose the election for the GOP. Easy as pie, I'd think the Dems would be happy about it instead of so down right mean and nasty.

Perhaps the Dems are a bit worried that Palin may surprise everyone in Thursday's debate. I've been disappointed in her lately, but Biden has also made some missteps. The game isn't over yet.

Guest
09-29-2008, 10:09 PM
But, Bright, look how long they have been schooling Obama so he can finally respond to some questions and not just give canned speeches. They are both coming from the same class, "early politics".

Guest
09-29-2008, 10:16 PM
Come on Peachie

Are you actually saying Palin and Obama have the same background experience? I can't believe you would say that! I'm disappointed with you, Peachie.

Thursday will be the eye opener...just wait and see. Even Republicans are backing off.

Guest
09-29-2008, 10:24 PM
I think Tina Fey should debate Joe. ;)

Guest
09-29-2008, 10:29 PM
I think they have been working with Mr. Obama a long time, he was not at all impressive off script earlier and is coming along nicely. Sarah may do just as well with as much time. But, Bright, if you read my earlier posts on different threads, I did indicate the debate Thursday night will tell me a lot. She may not be the candidate I want at all but also as I stated in an earlier post, the hatefulness and ugliness directed toward her is amazing. I would like to watch the debate with as open mind as possible because Joe could be my candidate. I also indicated earlier, my husband and I can't afford to live in retirement and fund Mr. Obama's endless projects. I don't think many people living in retirement can but soon it will be over and the real mess will be upon us.

Guest
09-29-2008, 10:34 PM
Many of us won't be able to live in retirement if the bailout plan isn't approved by the Republicans. What were they thinking?....OH! I FORGOT...it's election year!

Guest
09-29-2008, 10:36 PM
But you're missing the fact that the Dems could have passed it, and you're right... an election year. But it is fun debating with you, Bright.

My problem is I'm old school, I don't think like the Hollywood group. We lived through and supported the welfare system in Wisconsin before it was improved so we're leary of handouts without handups.

Guest
09-29-2008, 10:45 PM
I think Tina Fey should debate Joe. ;)

I agree! Tina Fey is much brighter and would be much more interesting. Also, being a writer, she's probably more well versed on today's issues. :clap2: The scary part is that in the last skit, almost all of it was verbatim from Palin!

I thought it was interesting that Palin admitted to watching Tina Fey with the volume off. ??? and again ??? Cared about how she looked I guess and not about what she said. How weird is that? :icon_wink:

Guest
09-30-2008, 04:36 AM
I agree! Tina Fey is much brighter and would be much more interesting. Also, being a writer, she's probably more well versed on today's issues. :clap2: The scary part is that in the last skit, almost all of it was verbatim from Palin!

I thought it was interesting that Palin admitted to watching Tina Fey with the volume off. ??? and again ??? Cared about how she looked I guess and not about what she said. How weird is that? :icon_wink:

BINGO we have a winner. You hit the nail on the head:) alot of people said she sounded alot better at the RNC. well hello, if i was there reading that prompter i could of sounded as good if not better. Oh wait didnt the prompter stop working, oh bust, i forgot a camera had a behind the Palin view and it was working. :( Some one forgot to put a working upgraded version of the prompter behind KC. ROMNEY & FEY for President.

Guest
09-30-2008, 06:53 AM
I thought it was interesting that Palin admitted to watching Tina Fey with the volume off. ??? and again ??? Cared about how she looked I guess and not about what she said. How weird is that? :icon_wink:

WHAT?? Are you kidding me? I had not read this....now I will have to google...this is very, very odd....who does this?

Guest
09-30-2008, 07:19 AM
Many of us won't be able to live in retirement if the bailout plan isn't approved by the Republicans. What were they thinking?....OH! I FORGOT...it's election year!


I believe 94 Democrats also voted no for the bailout. Last time I checked the Democrats have the majority so they don't need the Republicans to pass the bill. Why won't they pass it on their own? 1. Because it's a bad deal and they know it. 2. As always they can blame the GOP and get away with it.

Guest
09-30-2008, 07:31 AM
Now do we really want to base our unbiased, intelligent opinions for our candidate choice on how a candidate views SNL? I'm more than amused at how important the irreverent SNL show has become a major factor in electing our next president.

If we are to elect wisely, watch the debate Thursday evening. Joe Biden should NOT get a pass because he is an old Washington insider, listen to the man and Palin. Realize that John McCain and Barrack Obama are the same heartbeat away from death, one! Being younger does not guarantee longevity. God forbid anything happen to either one of them but I have seen enough to know that anything can happen to one or the other at any moment in time.

Guest
09-30-2008, 07:39 AM
Now do we really want to base our unbiased, intelligent opinions for our candidate choice on how a candidate views SNL? I'm more than amused at how important the irreverent SNL show has become a major factor in electing our next president.

If we are to elect wisely, watch the debate Thursday evening. Joe Biden should NOT get a pass because he is an old Washington insider, listen to the man and Palin. Realize that John McCain and Barrack Obama are the same heartbeat away from death, one! Being younger does not guarantee longevity. God forbid anything happen to either one of them but I have seen enough to know that anything can happen to one or the other at any moment in time.

Peachie....I am not very enthusiastic about the selection of Gov Palin, but I am totally amazed at the concentration on her with NO discussion of the stupid things said by Sen Biden, who should very well know better.

I do not pass on emails I receive but the below is interesting and I am not comparing Gov Palin to anyone...just passing on a thought...

"Who Am I?
I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors,
I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
I have many children,

I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor's office.

Have you ever heard of me before now?





I am Teddy Roosevelt."

Guest
09-30-2008, 08:54 AM
And who would those arch conservatives be, I'm curious?

Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker; David Frum, former Bush speechwriter; Charles Krauthammer conservative writer for the Washington Post; and Ross Douthat - conservative senior editor of The Atlantic; just to name a few.

Guest
09-30-2008, 08:56 AM
Now do we really want to base our unbiased, intelligent opinions for our candidate choice on how a candidate views SNL? I'm more than amused at how important the irreverent SNL show has become a major factor in electing our next president.

If we are to elect wisely, watch the debate Thursday evening. Joe Biden should NOT get a pass because he is an old Washington insider, listen to the man and Palin. Realize that John McCain and Barrack Obama are the same heartbeat away from death, one! Being younger does not guarantee longevity. God forbid anything happen to either one of them but I have seen enough to know that anything can happen to one or the other at any moment in time.

Sorry, would still have someone that was the Head of the Foreign Relations Committee than the Mayor of Wasilla. Call me crazy, but this is not about gutting a moose. :confused:

I want Biden to take the gloves off big time. That's what I had to do when I had to deal with the "Good Old Boys Club in business." She should not be coddled. But, he'll probably get slammed for that. :rant-rave:

Guest
09-30-2008, 09:00 AM
I believe 94 Democrats also voted no for the bailout. Last time I checked the Democrats have the majority so they don't need the Republicans to pass the bill. Why won't they pass it on their own? 1. Because it's a bad deal and they know it. 2. As always they can blame the GOP and get away with it.

There's a lot to blame the GOP for and it's way more than the vote. Those Dems are to blame also. But 2/3 of the Dems voted for and and 2/3 of Repubs voted against it. That's where the scale tips.

Guest
09-30-2008, 09:07 AM
Chels, if you're going that route... she may be gutting a moose but it's better than be on the table for another "nip/tuck" during a crisis. Geezzzz.... her hobbies are now the criteria. If Mr. Obama is soooo wise and intelligent, how did he get Biden on the ticket... the practically winless president candidate? Because Mr. Obama knew Hillary Clinton had a helluva lot more going for her and he would be upstaged so he went mediocre.

Guest
09-30-2008, 09:16 AM
Chels, if you're going that route... she may be gutting a moose but it's better than be on the table for another "nip/tuck" during a crisis. Geezzzz.... her hobbies are now the criteria. If Mr. Obama is soooo wise and intelligent, how did he get Biden on the ticket... the practically winless president candidate? Because Mr. Obama knew Hillary Clinton had a helluva lot more going for her and he would be upstaged so he went mediocre.

What route? The Republicans have been slamming Obama on everything from a flag pin to people around when he was 8 years old. Why is Palen off limits?

McCain looked a father defending his daughter yesterday on Katie Couric. It's ridiculous and an insult to the American people.

I like Joe Biden and my stance is clear. Hillary would have been wonderful on the ticket, but I think any person or woman that would switch tickets just because Palin is a woman, is as shallow as she is. I don't think for one minute that Obama didn't choose her because he was afraid of being upstaged. Politics is much more intricate than that. I love Hillary and she'll be back. But she lost the primary. This is not her time. Yet.

Guest
09-30-2008, 09:24 AM
The route is the personal attacks on who she is as a person. Must we all be indentical in nature or we are flawed? What does her interest in hunting have to do with this election, is my point. I respect your vote, it the argument I question but that too is your right if that is the tact taken. I'll listen to the debate and then wait for the elections, I'm outta the political posts. I'm looking forward to meeting you at Crisper's in the next few months, Chels.

Guest
09-30-2008, 09:30 AM
Just to keep things light, check out this funny tongue-in-cheek article in the Onion

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/palin_brushing_up_on

Guest
09-30-2008, 02:15 PM
...but I think any person or woman that would switch tickets just because Palin is a woman, is as shallow as she is. ...

I would tend to agree with this statement. The question then becomes is she a better VP candidate than Sen. Biden?

If you can look at the two people without character slander, life-style choices and wardrobe, what's left is:

1. An attorney whose only job has been as a Senator, which basically is to be part of a select team to debate legal and social philosophy, never having to be responsible for a decision. Senators are the ultimate academic - always dealing in theory and rarely associated with any vote or action they do. It's the ultimate job for critics and social register crones.

2. A governor (non-attorney) whose only had the job for a couple years, but has served several years as a state comissioner and town mayor. All of these jobs have had the person in full visibility of the public for all decisions, actions, gaffes, et al. The person's record of accomplishment has resulted in becoming governor over one-fifth of the national geography; in the only state bordering more than one country, having the largest shoreline and most diverse climate; and the state which has become focal point for all ecological concerns of the national populace.

If the senator was female and the governor a male, would this even be an issue? ? ?

Guest
09-30-2008, 02:36 PM
Interesting how Biden and Palin are both secluded with their advisors training for the debate.

Biden is of course just training but the typical one sided media has to add the word boot camp for Palain just to throw a negative spin on it.

Even if I don’t like Palin I hope she destroys Biden in the debate just to make the left eat crow. Of course even if she clearly wins the debate the media will still rip her apart and declare Biden the winner.

The left claims they are the open-minded and tolerant one’s but I sure don’t see it. They seem angry and bitter to me.

Guest
09-30-2008, 03:42 PM
Many years ago I heard a story about two twin boys ...One was elected Vice President and the other Ran away to sea..... And neither was heard from again..................


One can only hope that the same will happen to several of these posters..


ho hum fumar

Guest
09-30-2008, 04:17 PM
Many years ago I heard a story about two twin boys ...One was elected Vice President and the other Ran away to sea..... And neither was heard from again..................


One can only hope that the same will happen to several of these posters..


ho hum fumar

You mean just the democrats, right Fumar? :wave: