Why are democrats so foolish?

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I've no idea why they want socialism as you only have to look at those countries living under it's rule to know it's a failed idea. If you like having dog feces on your shoes then you must like stepping in it.

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I've no idea why they want socialism as you only have to look at those countries living under it's rule to know it's a failed idea. If you like having dog feces on your shoes then you must like stepping in it.

I take it you don't like socialism in any form? If so you might want to give up Medicare and send your SS check back.

I support those socialist programs......

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I take it you don't like socialism in any form? If so you might want to give up Medicare and send your SS check back.

I support those socialist programs......

Why is it some continue to call social security and medicare "socialist programs" when they are not.

Most of us have paid into our social security and medicare accounts all of our working lives.

And now that we are getting our share back.....along with a whole bunch who have paid zero into the program.....some insist it is a socialist program......MAYBE for those who did not pay in. For the rest of us who did....we are making a withdrawal.

Nice try.....(AGAIN!)

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I take it you don't like socialism in any form? If so you might want to give up Medicare and send your SS check back.

I support those socialist programs......

I'd rather have the money that they forcibly deducted from my paycheck. I would be rich right now after investing it in my own choice of funds. Medicare is a farce as far as I am concerned. I never use it and I paid for it all my working life. I have private insurance that picks up the tab. Waste of money. After you pay medicare for 40 years, you turn 65 and find out that in order to get full coverage medicare B, you have to pay another 100+ bucks a month, EACH. Otherwise, you only get hospitalization paid for by Medicare A. So, no I won't send my money back. That is MY money, that I earned and I cannot help it if the gov borrowed it and used it and still wants more. It will be the young that will have to figure out what they will do when they get to my age and have nothing to show for it. Because they are paying us back for the money that was borrowed and there won't be enough left over for them.

So, once again the Ponzi scheme of socialism has failed. Some times folks have to grow up and take responsibility for their own lives. The gov is not up to running your life for you. They fail at everything they do. Now, they can't even keep you safe, and they want to take your only means of defense away from you. Good luck with your future.

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I take it you don't like socialism in any form? If so you might want to give up Medicare and send your SS check back.

I support those socialist programs......

Of course you do. Some folks are very needy and need someone to take care of them. Apparently, you qualify.

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Why is it some continue to call social security and medicare "socialist programs" when they are not.

Most of us have paid into our social security and medicare accounts all of our working lives.

And now that we are getting our share back.....along with a whole bunch who have paid zero into the program.....some insist it is a socialist program......MAYBE for those who did not pay in. For the rest of us who did....we are making a withdrawal.

Nice try.....(AGAIN!)


Why? Cause they (the liberal democrat) have union that held companies and government hostage for 100% retirement or near 100% retirement and they didn't pay in to SS. So, they think anybody receiving SS are there lazy voting base that never paid in which is why they think it's socialist. Basically they don't want people who earned it to get it, only the lazy or ones that never paid into it.

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Why is it some continue to call social security and medicare "socialist programs" when they are not.

Most of us have paid into our social security and medicare accounts all of our working lives.

And now that we are getting our share back.....along with a whole bunch who have paid zero into the program.....some insist it is a socialist program......MAYBE for those who did not pay in. For the rest of us who did....we are making a withdrawal.

Nice try.....(AGAIN!)

The money that we paid into social security paid for the people went to people that were collecting at the time. If they stopped the programs now, which they aren't going to do, we would get paid until the money collected, and not distributed was paid out.

Here is the short answer why it is a socialist program.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081026111526AALbHXS

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Why is it some continue to call social security and medicare "socialist programs" when they are not.

Most of us have paid into our social security and medicare accounts all of our working lives.

And now that we are getting our share back.....along with a whole bunch who have paid zero into the program.....some insist it is a socialist program......MAYBE for those who did not pay in. For the rest of us who did....we are making a withdrawal.

Nice try.....(AGAIN!)

Obviously you have never looked into the definition of socialism. So let me do that for you.....

From the Webster dictionary

Simple Definition of socialism

: a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

On both counts Social Security and Medicare met the test of this definition as the government took your money over the course of many years and "invested it" for you. But you have no control over that money, if you die before you reach retirement your heirs cannot collect the money you "invested" in the program. You cannot control the amount of money you can withdraw monthly as you would be able to do with an investment like a 401K.

I also give you a link to an address given by the great Republican God Ronald Reagan....

American Rhetoric: Ronald Reagan -- Radio Address on Socialized Medicine (http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ronaldreagansocializedmedicine.htm)

I rest my case.....

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Why? Cause they (the liberal democrat) have union that held companies and government hostage for 100% retirement or near 100% retirement and they didn't pay in to SS. So, they think anybody receiving SS are there lazy voting base that never paid in which is why they think it's socialist. Basically they don't want people who earned it to get it, only the lazy or ones that never paid into it.

This is nothing but BS.....

I have worked since I was 18 years of age and retired at the age of 63. I generally vote Democratic and I have earned my right to collect SS. Anyone who doesn't pay into the system should NOT receive benefits.

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Of course you do. Some folks are very needy and need someone to take care of them. Apparently, you qualify.

How about if we compare bank accounts I show mine if you show yours.

I've earned my money.

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Of course you do. Some folks are very needy and need someone to take care of them. Apparently, you qualify.

Why do you all have to be nasty?

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The topic started out as why democrats are so foolish and evolved into a dispute about social security and medicare as being socialist programs. Well they are.

But consider Democrat began this journey toward socialism in 1934 when they (FDR) enacted social security and continued it in 1964 with the Kennedy/Johnson years (Great society) enacting medicare, etc. Democrat love socialism meaning control of citizens lives so they enacted civil rights laws, not for equality but to force social lab experiments on the social aspects of our lives (integration) (protected classes) (Affirmative Action) desparate impact, etc) .

Today the social lab experiment is being widen with Obamacare and expansion of medicaid and removing the sacrosant definition of marriage whose intentions are to erase gender from our society and to demand that you accept homosexuality as the new norm and no different than heterosexuality .

You witness every single day how politicians pull the strings of fear with talk of medicare, medicaid and social security going broke, broke because these same politicians abuse and misuse such funds. and when decent people who were FORCED to participate with deduction forcibly taken out of their paychecks protest, these same smug politicians call it an entitlement.

While it would be too lengthy a conversation the faux subjects of gun control and climate change are also for the expressed purpose of controlling the masses

We find today that the two top Democratic candidates are socialist because their party has shifted to that state of being. People all over the world are running from such governments and we have a segment in our society who believe socialism is good. I dare say it is those who want to control or want free stuff

So we see why Ronald Reagan was so compelling with his observations and prescient with the one that repeats at the end of my post each and every time.

Personal Best Regards:

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Why do you all have to be nasty?

So an honest observation from a conservative is deemed "nasty" and snide remarks and disparaging comments from a liberal is what, just conversation? Sorry, but I am nice until provoked. It seems to me that you folks have no problem with your Pelosi, Reid and Obama disparaging Republicans, but when Trump or anyone else makes a harsh comment, it's deemed "nasty."

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So an honest observation from a conservative is deemed "nasty" and snide remarks and disparaging comments from a liberal is what, just conversation? Sorry, but I am nice until provoked. It seems to me that you folks have no problem with your Pelosi, Reid and Obama disparaging Republicans, but when Trump or anyone else makes a harsh comment, it's deemed "nasty."

I said I supported Social Sercurity and Medicare which prompted a response that obviously I was a needy person. Why would you say that? Most of us here benefit from Social Sercurity and Medicare. I have never received public assistance but I support public assistant for those who need it. The only government program I benefited from was the College Loan program...I paid my loan off in half the required time.

Yes I vote Democratic but that doesn't mean i am some kind of taker as this response implied. My response should NOtT have provoked you. How does a simple statement I support Social Security and Medicare provoke your nasty response?

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I take it you don't like socialism in any form? If so you might want to give up Medicare and send your SS check back.

I support those socialist programs......

Comrade, I would love to give up my Medicare & SS programs if the Govt. would refund the money they confiscated from me & my employers for all those years, with the appropriate interest it would have earned of course. Our Socialist politicians have stolen our money to ingratiate themselves with the freeloaders in our society to ensure their own re-election.

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I said I supported Social Sercurity and Medicare which prompted a response that obviously I was a needy person. Why would you say that? Most of us here benefit from Social Sercurity and Medicare. I have never received public assistance but I support public assistant for those who need it. The only government program I benefited from was the College Loan program...I paid my loan off in half the required time.

Yes I vote Democratic but that doesn't mean i am some kind of taker as this response implied. My response should NOtT have provoked you. How does a simple statement I support Social Security and Medicare provoke your nasty response?

Was that a "nasty response?" What would you consider a "mean response?"

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Comrade, I would love to give up my Medicare & SS programs if the Govt. would refund the money they confiscated from me & my employers for all those years, with the appropriate interest it would have earned of course. Our Socialist politicians have stolen our money to ingratiate themselves with the freeloaders in our society to ensure their own re-election.

:thumbup:

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I said I supported Social Sercurity and Medicare which prompted a response that obviously I was a needy person. Why would you say that? Most of us here benefit from Social Sercurity and Medicare. I have never received public assistance but I support public assistant for those who need it. The only government program I benefited from was the College Loan program...I paid my loan off in half the required time.

Yes I vote Democratic but that doesn't mean i am some kind of taker as this response implied. My response should NOtT have provoked you. How does a simple statement I support Social Security and Medicare provoke your nasty response?

I did not see anything "nasty" in that comment. I don't understand how you can say that most of us "benefit" from SS and Medicare. It was not a choice, it was a socialist program so that the government can use our money to suit it's purpose. Most folks that built a retirement fund up and have private insurance, can live without SS (even though it IS their money) and do not even utilize Medicare at all. That's a lot of money that one could have invested to make them very well off now.

Perhaps the poster was referring to how you enjoy and endorse these social programs, which might be indicative of a "needy" person. One that needs the government teat to survive. Unfortunately, the gov enslaves everyone to SS and Medicare whether they wish it or not. That's socialism. Now, we have a mandatory health care program that forces us to pay for insurance for those that do not have it and forces those that do not need it to purchase a product or be punished. That's socialism with a hint of tyranny.

So, even though you have a right to whine about "nasty" comments, if you are going to enter a mud slinging fight, be prepared to get some mud on you. No one is going to make "nasty" comments toward you if you are just reading the comments, but please don't get indignant if one says something that may or may not be according to your political correctness. There is no PC in a Free For All forum with no rules enforced. Personally, I kind of like it, because one can respond in kind without worrying about being canned/banned. I have never been accused of being politically correct.

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Comrade, I would love to give up my Medicare & SS programs if the Govt. would refund the money they confiscated from me & my employers for all those years, with the appropriate interest it would have earned of course. Our Socialist politicians have stolen our money to ingratiate themselves with the freeloaders in our society to ensure their own re-election.

So now I am a communist.... So much for a free and open exchange of ideas.

Naming calling..... Nice

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So now I am a communist.... So much for a free and open exchange of ideas.

Naming calling..... Nice

Wow, you ARE sensitive. I believe he was being sardonic? Are you going to stay hung up on someone's response to you? Really, what did you expect on a political forum, civility? If our paid politicians can't get along and use harsh rhetoric, do you expect different from the average wannabee pundit on a political forum? I think you have possibly wandered into the wrong neighborhood.

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The topic started out as why democrats are so foolish and evolved into a dispute about social security and medicare as being socialist programs. Well they are.

But consider Democrat began this journey toward socialism in 1934 when they (FDR) enacted social security and continued it in 1964 with the Kennedy/Johnson years (Great society) enacting medicare, etc. Democrat love socialism meaning control of citizens lives so they enacted civil rights laws, not for equality but to force social lab experiments on the social aspects of our lives (integration) (protected classes) (Affirmative Action) desparate impact, etc) .

Today the social lab experiment is being widen with Obamacare and expansion of medicaid and removing the sacrosant definition of marriage whose intentions are to erase gender from our society and to demand that you accept homosexuality as the new norm and no different than heterosexuality .

I dare say it is those who want to control or want free stuff

Personal Best Regards:

...and you just continue on with your litany of racism and bigotry. May you find mercy, compassion, and happiness this Christmas season.

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...and you just continue on with your litany of racism and bigotry. May you find mercy, compassion, and happiness this Christmas season.

And may you discover knowledge and enlightenment. Sorry, I realize that you weren't responding to me, but I decided to interject anyway.

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Fascism works so well. Vote for Trump.

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Wow, you ARE sensitive. I believe he was being sardonic? Are you going to stay hung up on someone's response to you? Really, what did you expect on a political forum, civility? If our paid politicians can't get along and use harsh rhetoric, do you expect different from the average wannabee pundit on a political forum? I think you have possibly wandered into the wrong neighborhood.

I guess I do expect some degree of civility because that is the way I approach this... A open discussion and exchange of ideas. But perhaps you are right this is not the place for this but not because of me.

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I guess I do expect some degree of civility because that is the way I approach this... A open discussion and exchange of ideas. But perhaps you are right this is not the place for this but not because of me.

I did not mean for you to go away. I meant that you can still have a discussion, if you just ignore the childish remarks. One cannot be sensitive when discussing politics (or religion, etc.). I am just as guilty of spontaneous, rude retorts when baited. Normally, I prefer an intelligent conversation, but when you have a desperate element on here that worries about losing their place welfare line, then they attempt to divert. And if the only way to divert is to draw attention to themselves with childish attacks then, that is what they do. It's only a game to them, not reality. So, put on your armor and jump right in, regardless of party affiliation.

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Fascism works so well. Vote for Trump.

If we wanted to continue the current course of Fascism, we would vote for Hillary. After all, she worked for and endorses Obama's fascism.

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I did not mean for you to go away. I meant that you can still have a discussion, if you just ignore my childish remarks. One cannot be sensotive when discussing politics (or religion, etc.). I am just as guilty of spontaneous, rude retorts. Normally, I would prefer an intelligent conversation, but am not capable of it.

Sounds reasonable to the rest of us.

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I take it you don't like socialism in any form? If so you might want to give up Medicare and send your SS check back.

I support those socialist programs......

It has been said by others that "the problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money " !

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Sounds reasonable to the rest of us.

Wow, Sybil the liberal. Glad to meet all of you.

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So now I am a communist.... So much for a free and open exchange of ideas.

Naming calling..... Nice

If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, maybe it's a duck

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If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, maybe it's a duck

Socialist, Communist and now a duck.....

And I haven't called anyone a name...it's not me.

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Socialist, Communist and now a duck.....

And I haven't called anyone a name...it's not me.

Oh, a sensitive liberal. Who would have thunk? Taking it personal, are we? He did not call you a duck, but it's funny how you suddenly become the victim when you are losing an argument.

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Oh, a sensitive liberal. Who would have thunk? Taking it personal, are we? He did not call you a duck, but it's funny how you suddenly become the victim when you are losing an argument.

And the hits just keep on coming.....

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Oh, a sensitive liberal. Who would have thunk? Taking it personal, are we? He did not call you a duck, but it's funny how you suddenly become the victim when you are losing an argument.

Back to the liberal label... I'm not losing Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs. End of story, you Republicans don't like that truth but it is what it is.

No loser here......:a20:

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Back to the liberal label... I'm not losing Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs. End of story, you Republicans don't like that truth but it is what it is.

No loser here......:a20:

It really would be remarkable to find a Republican intelligent enough to admit that Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs, eh?

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Back to the liberal label... I'm not losing Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs. End of story, you Republicans don't like that truth but it is what it is.

No loser here......:a20:


It's not the end of the story, Social Security and Medicare are social programs implemented by a Democratic Republic and NOT socialist programs implemented by a socialist government. End of story!

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It really would be remarkable to find a Republican intelligent enough to admit that Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs, eh?

If you saved all your life for retirement and are now taking a monthly draw on those savings would you consider that to be a socialist program as well??

Some of you may choose to look at it as a socialist program as it has become so bastatardized to allow far too many who have paid nothing in to get benefits.

Do you not know how to carry on a discussion without being nasty, disrespectful and just always being a smart a$$. Not a good representation of your party at all.

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If you saved all your life for retirement and are now taking a monthly draw on those savings would you consider that to be a socialist program as well??



Some of you may choose to look at it as a socialist program as it has become so bastatardized to allow far too many who have paid nothing in to get benefits.



Do you not know how to carry on a discussion without being nasty, disrespectful and just always being a smart a$$. Not a good representation of your party at all.


They only represent themselves.

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If you saved all your life for retirement and are now taking a monthly draw on those savings would you consider that to be a socialist program as well??

Some of you may choose to look at it as a socialist program as it has become so bastatardized to allow far too many who have paid nothing in to get benefits.

Do you not know how to carry on a discussion without being nasty, disrespectful and just always being a smart a$$. Not a good representation of your party at all.

If you saved for yourself and controlled that money, 401K or IRA then those are NOT a socialist program. However, while we all contribute to SS and Medicare we do not control that money in any way which = Socialist program setup by a great Democratic President FDR.

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If you saved for yourself and controlled that money, 401K or IRA then those are NOT a socialist program. However, while we all contribute to SS and Medicare we do not control that money in any way which = Socialist program setup by a great Democratic President FDR.

Really?
How convenient to make your point. However, incorrect!
When I am making a withdrawal of what I contributed to all my life it has nothing to do with socialism.

As I said before social security becomes socialistic when that money/benfit is GIVEN to NON CONTRIBUTORS.

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Really?
How convenient to make your point. However, incorrect!
When I am making a withdrawal of what I contributed to all my life it has nothing to do with socialism.

As I said before social security becomes socialistic when that money/benfit is GIVEN to NON CONTRIBUTORS.

It IS given to non-contributors. When a spouse gets SS based on your SS level, and he/she has never been employed or not enough to be eligible for full benefits, then they are getting money they did not contribute. Those that receive Social Security Disability may be getting money they didn't contribute. You do not have a choice as to whether or not you contribute part of your paycheck to SS or Medicare. It's taken from you, not donated.

In my case, Medicare is wasted money because I will never use it. You pay for 40 years then you get the basic Medicare A which covers hospitalization. Nothing else. You have to pay an additional $100+ for Medicare B to get any more health care benefits. I have private insurance and will never need Medicare, so all that money that I had taken from me is used to pay for someone that never paid into it,,,,,stolen to fund Obamacare.

So, yes SS and medicare is socialist whether we like it or not. In my case, I could have made some pretty good money off of all those deductions. But, when you have a socialist president like.....Roosevelt and Johnson, that's what you get. I'll get my money back, but I doubt it will be around for my children and definitely not the grandchildren. It will be a new program of some sort. Some brainiac will come up with some hair brained idea that will add more to the national debt......like Obamacare.

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How about public schools. Explain to me how that is not a socialist program. I don't have kids, but I have to pay for public schools. Teach your own kids to read and write or pay somebody. 12 years of socialism. Then somebody pays out of there own pocket if they want to go further. A lot of people complain about public education, but want vouchers for their kids. I went to public schools. My parents didn't tell me that other people helped pay for my education. When I took out student loans for college, I began to realize what capitalism was all about. I love capitalism, but also understand that some social programs are needed. How many? That's what elections are about.

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How about public schools. Explain to me how that is not a socialist program. I don't have kids, but I have to pay for public schools. Teach your own kids to read and write or pay somebody. 12 years of socialism. Then somebody pays out of there own pocket if they want to go further. A lot of people complain about public education, but want vouchers for their kids. I went to public schools. My parents didn't tell me that other people helped pay for my education. When I took out student loans for college, I began to realize what capitalism was all about. I love capitalism, but also understand that some social programs are needed. How many? That's what elections are about.

When we were younger we did not have all the BS about who paid for what. If one could not afford something they did not get it.
And to call the school system a socialist situation is a stretch to make a point.

My preference? Take it back to the way it was....if you did not have the money or if you could not afford something you did not get it.
This entitlement BS is just that BS!!!

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How about public schools. Explain to me how that is not a socialist program. I don't have kids, but I have to pay for public schools. Teach your own kids to read and write or pay somebody. 12 years of socialism. Then somebody pays out of there own pocket if they want to go further. A lot of people complain about public education, but want vouchers for their kids. I went to public schools. My parents didn't tell me that other people helped pay for my education. When I took out student loans for college, I began to realize what capitalism was all about. I love capitalism, but also understand that some social programs are needed. How many? That's what elections are about.


And we have a winner....

Socialism is Alive and Well in Your Child (http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/socialism-is-alive-and-well-in-your-childs-public-education-system/)

I have no children and yet I pay to fund the public school system. But then again I did go to public schools.

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When we were younger we did not have all the BS about who paid for what. If one could not afford something they did not get it.
And to call the school system a socialist situation is a stretch to make a point.

My preference? Take it back to the way it was....if you did not have the money or if you could not afford something you did not get it.
This entitlement BS is just that BS!!!

Really, a stretch? The entire country, all the states have FREE public education. Like you said if you don't have the money, you don't get it.

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How about public schools. Explain to me how that is not a socialist program. I don't have kids, but I have to pay for public schools. Teach your own kids to read and write or pay somebody. 12 years of socialism. Then somebody pays out of there own pocket if they want to go further. A lot of people complain about public education, but want vouchers for their kids. I went to public schools. My parents didn't tell me that other people helped pay for my education. When I took out student loans for college, I began to realize what capitalism was all about. I love capitalism, but also understand that some social programs are needed. How many? That's what elections are about.

Never had my children in public schools, even though I went to public school. My wife and I worked several jobs so that we could give our four children a decent (private) education, with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence. We never purchased (or could afford) a new car while they were young and didn't mind it a bit. I used to believe in public schooling until faith and patriotism were removed, teachers were banned from disciplining the students, and chaos reigned. Socialism is never successful, and always fails eventually. Whenever the gov is involved in our lives, it degrades the process. You have to be desperate to need or want the government nanny in your lives. Kind of like signing a contract with the Devil. You end up giving up your soul.........and then you are just a liberal..:loco:

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When we were younger we did not have all the BS about who paid for what. If one could not afford something they did not get it.


My preference? Take it back to the way it was....if you did not have the money or if you could not afford something you did not get it.
This entitlement BS is just that BS!!!

Right on! This is BS. If someone doesn't have money for food, clothes, or housing for their families, they should go without it. After all, I am an American Republican!!

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Right on! This is BS. If someone doesn't have money for food, clothes, or housing for their families, they should go without it. After all, I am an American Republican!!

Naw, you are Sybil the liberal.

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Never had my children in public schools, even though I went to public school. My wife and I worked several jobs so that we could give our four children a decent (private) education, with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence. We never purchased (or could afford) a new car while they were young and didn't mind it a bit. I used to believe in public schooling until faith and patriotism were removed, teachers were banned from disciplining the students, and chaos reigned. Socialism is never successful, and always fails eventually. Whenever the gov is involved in our lives, it degrades the process. You have to be desperate to need or want the government nanny in your lives. Kind of like signing a contract with the Devil. You end up giving up your soul.........and then you are just a liberal..:loco:
Obviously not every child can go to private schools as your children did, so what do you do with the millions who can't?

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Obviously not every child can go to private schools as your children did, so what do you do with the millions who can't?

Home school!

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Never had my children in public schools, even though I went to public school. My wife and I worked several jobs so that we could give our four children a decent (private) education, with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence. We never purchased (or could afford) a new car while they were young and didn't mind it a bit. I used to believe in public schooling until faith and patriotism were removed, teachers were banned from disciplining the students, and chaos reigned. Socialism is never successful, and always fails eventually. Whenever the gov is involved in our lives, it degrades the process. You have to be desperate to need or want the government nanny in your lives. Kind of like signing a contract with the Devil. You end up giving up your soul.........and then you are just a liberal..:loco:

Hmmmnnnn maybe you lived in a shady school district.

This is a very biaesd and unfair description you put forth for public schools:

"...with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence...."

Most of us went to public schools as did our children and were NEVER EVER exposed to or experienced any of those thing.

It had to be where you lived or you just had your mind made up (which is fine) but please do not tar a system that does in fact deserve better than what you use as a basis for your decision!!!

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Never had my children in public schools, even though I went to public school. My wife and I worked several jobs so that we could give our four children a decent (private) education, with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence. We never purchased (or could afford) a new car while they were young and didn't mind it a bit. I used to believe in public schooling until faith and patriotism were removed, teachers were banned from disciplining the students, and chaos reigned. Socialism is never successful, and always fails eventually. Whenever the gov is involved in our lives, it degrades the process. You have to be desperate to need or want the government nanny in your lives. Kind of like signing a contract with the Devil. You end up giving up your soul.........and then you are just a liberal..:loco:

You believed in public education until faith and patriotism were removed? The daily reciting of the Pledge was juste a rote memorization and meant nothing to kids. Faith is left up to Sunday School. Teachers were banned from disciplining kids - good! That is up to parents and not teachers. Teachers can write notes or call parents about their student but not physically disclipine them! Chaos never reigned in the public schools our child went to.

Nothing about being liberal or conservative.

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You believed in public education until faith and patriotism were removed? The daily reciting of the Pledge was juste a rote memorization and meant nothing to kids. Faith is left up to Sunday School. Teachers were banned from disciplining kids - good! That is up to parents and not teachers. Teachers can write notes or call parents about their student but not physically disclipine them! Chaos never reigned in the public schools our child went to.

Nothing about being liberal or conservative.

Hate to say it, but I am not sure how else to put it. You obviously don't understand what the children are missing in public schools now.

The Pledge "just a rote memorization?" You don't think that kids learned about the flag and what each component represents? If you don't believe that children learn about patriotism in school, then I'm worried about you and suspect that it is thinking like that that will move our nation toward communism. Yep, I said it.
Faith was removed from school. There was absolutely nothing wrong with having GOD in school. By removing it, banning it from school you don't give the children a choice and you program them to shun religion. I see nothing in the constitution to suggest Freedom From Religion, contrary to what liberals and atheist attempt to suggest. The gov is not allowed to have a state mandated religion, but there is nothing in the constitution that says it may not have religion. For some reason, the liberals/atheists have been able to convince the Supremes that religion in schools is a bad thing. It isn't.
These are age old arguments and I have yet to see a positive gained by removing these things from public schools.
So, you wonder why I put my children in private school? Because they because good, stable adults, never having used drugs or tobacco or abused alcohol. And they are patriotic and are raising their children to be good stable citizens. And my children received a superior education in private school.
In my opinion, if liberals don't like something, then they want it banned for everyone. And yet, they have no problem having the children study Islam in public school. The children cannot wear an American flag but it is OK to wear a Mexican or African flag.
When I suggested teacher discipline, I did not mean corporal punishment. And I am sure you knew that. That is a very lame idea to suggest that a problem child can be disciplined at home via a letter from the principal. I have seen teachers assaulted by teenagers because they knew that the teachers were forbidden to defend themselves.
Sorry, but your false indignity is not the view of the majority.

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I always get a kick out of people who are so blinded by their prejudices they think they are the "majority"

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If one does not like or believe in the pledge....don't say it.

If one does not like or want to say MERRY CHRISTMAS then don't.

If one does not like to see the Christmas display don't look at it.

If you don't like us saying a prayer in school, at a ball game, at a banquet, etc, you don't have to participate.

If you don't like the 10 Commandments in the court house, don't look at them.

And many more just like it that the minority groups or special interest groups or racial groups or hate groups don't care for.

JUST DON'T TRY TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE REST OF US. If you don't like it here....grin and bear it or shut up and go home!!

The MAJORITY of us still believe in all those things that were OK with the majority when we were growing up. They are still OK with the majority today, but some how the minority, special interest, racial, religious minority groups get an amolified voice and the liberal media and linguine spined administrators cave under the stuois notion of political correctness (lisence for NOT DOING what is right).

We like America the way it was and is in many places.

Believe and support what you want.....JUST STOP TRYING TO TAKE AWAY AND CHANGE WHAT THE REST OF US ENJOY AS AMERICANS.

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I always get a kick out of people who are so blinded by their prejudices they think they are the "majority"

I DON'T really get a kick out of listening to a subject of the minority make a lot of noise to cover up for the fact that he is just a small entity in a large group that silently disapproves of him. Just because you make more noise than the majority, does not make you a large group, just a big mouth.

Prejudice defined by your ilk is anyone that you don't agree with.

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I DON'T really get a kick out of listening to a subject of the minority make a lot of noise to cover up for the fact that he is just a small entity in a large group that silently disapproves of him. Just because you make more noise than the majority, does not make you a large group, just a big mouth.

Prejudice defined by your ilk is anyone that you don't agree with.

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If one does not like or believe in the pledge....don't say it.

If one does not like or want to say MERRY CHRISTMAS then don't.

If one does not like to see the Christmas display don't look at it.

If you don't like us saying a prayer in school, at a ball game, at a banquet, etc, you don't have to participate.

If you don't like the 10 Commandments in the court house, don't look at them.

And many more just like it that the minority groups or special interest groups or racial groups or hate groups don't care for.

JUST DON'T TRY TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE REST OF US. If you don't like it here....grin and bear it or shut up and go home!!

The MAJORITY of us still believe in all those things that were OK with the majority when we were growing up. They are still OK with the majority today, but some how the minority, special interest, racial, religious minority groups get an amolified voice and the liberal media and linguine spined administrators cave under the stuois notion of political correctness (lisence for NOT DOING what is right).

We like America the way it was and is in many places.

Believe and support what you want.....JUST STOP TRYING TO TAKE AWAY AND CHANGE WHAT THE REST OF US ENJOY AS AMERICANS.

And another myth bites the dust...according to Pew research white christians are no longer a majority in the USA however, they continue to be a majority in the Republican party.

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And another myth bites the dust...according to Pew research white christians are no longer a majority in the USA however, they continue to be a majority in the Republican party.

And once again you make an erroneous assumption to hear yourself talk about what you wnt to hear.

Nobody said anything about white christians......YOU DID!!!

Go back and read it again!!!!

Careful or you will get a lump of coal tonight!

Merry Christmas (no hidden meanings or between the lines messaging!)......just simply Merry Christmas.

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And once again you make an erroneous assumption to hear yourself talk about what you wnt to hear.

Nobody said anything about white christians......YOU DID!!!

Go back and read it again!!!!

Careful or you will get a lump of coal tonight!

Merry Christmas (no hidden meanings or between the lines messaging!)......just simply Merry Christmas.

And a simple Merry Christmas to you as well.

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And another myth bites the dust...according to Pew research white christians are no longer a majority in the USA however, they continue to be a majority in the Republican party.

CHRISTIANS are still the majority in the U.S.A. = Pew research.

I don't know where you got the "white" part, but Christians are still the majority. Are you really that miserable that you make up stuff to get attention?

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All failed economies? The Scandinavian countries are socialist. They are thriving democracies and, by many measures, are more prosperous than we are. Further, socialism did not collapse the Soviet Union. It collapsed because communism was not a viable economic system. There is a difference between socialism and communism.

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I believe that a great deal of voters become democrats because the republications fail to give them a viable alternative. I have never voted democratic but will not vote for any republican that is a self declared Taliban who does not believe that women have the right to make their own decisions concerning their own bodies. Leave my wife and daughters alone and keep an eye on your own families. Right to life = Right to lose.
Libertarian that wants to but cannot be a republican.

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I believe that a great deal of voters become democrats because the republications fail to give them a viable alternative. I have never voted democratic but will not vote for any republican that is a self declared Taliban who does not believe that women have the right to make their own decisions concerning their own bodies. Leave my wife and daughters alone and keep an eye on your own families. Right to life = Right to lose.
Libertarian that wants to but cannot be a republican.

Right on!

There is absolutely no reason to legislate abortion. It is up to each woman to make up her own mind - without government interference.

I cannot understand Conservatives who say they want less government but on the other hand want to regulate what each woman should decide.

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I believe that a great deal of voters become democrats because the republications fail to give them a viable alternative. I have never voted democratic but will not vote for any republican that is a self declared Taliban who does not believe that women have the right to make their own decisions concerning their own bodies. Leave my wife and daughters alone and keep an eye on your own families. Right to life = Right to lose.
Libertarian that wants to but cannot be a republican.

And for those reasons it is OK with you to default to Clinton?

Surely you can't be serious?

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If you saved for yourself and controlled that money, 401K or IRA then those are NOT a socialist program. However, while we all contribute to SS and Medicare we do not control that money in any way which = Socialist program setup by a great Democratic President FDR.

401k and ira must be socialist programs because you are compounding that money without paying taxes, also the taxes you pay ever day are going to companies that are welfare type programs.

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And for those reasons it is OK with you to default to Clinton?

Surely you can't be serious?

All three of those posts are the from the same poster, just conversing with himself because no one else will take his bait. All three, the same liberal troll.

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401k and ira must be socialist programs because you are compounding that money without paying taxes, also the taxes you pay ever day are going to companies that are welfare type programs.

Are you kidding? Do you even know what Socialism is? Obviously not. Go back to school.

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I believe that a great deal of voters become democrats because the republications fail to give them a viable alternative. I have never voted democratic but will not vote for any republican that is a self declared Taliban who does not believe that women have the right to make their own decisions concerning their own bodies. Leave my wife and daughters alone and keep an eye on your own families. Right to life = Right to lose.
Libertarian that wants to but cannot be a republican.

Sure....like you have never voted for a Democrat. I am willing to put money down that you have never voted for a Republican. I smell a troll.

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Right on!

There is absolutely no reason to legislate abortion. It is up to each woman to make up her own mind - without government interference.

I cannot understand Conservatives who say they want less government but on the other hand want to regulate what each woman should decide.

Yes, I agree. Murder should not be legislated. There are a few persons that I would like to LEGALLY do a post-natal abortion upon. Darn laws, should not legislate killing people, right? Especially, if the one's murdered are family. Hey, it's our CHOICE, right?

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All failed economies? The Scandinavian countries are socialist. They are thriving democracies and, by many measures, are more prosperous than we are. Further, socialism did not collapse the Soviet Union. It collapsed because communism was not a viable economic system. There is a difference between socialism and communism.

You really ought to do your own research instead of listening to a bumbling old Sanders lie about how great socialism is. If you want read a little about how UN-Socialist those countries are becoming, because of failure, read the link. They also pay a much higher per household tax rate and have a much higher per family debt. Their businesses are not owned by the gov. And they are in some cases LESS progressive than America.

And it is also obvious that you do not know the relationship of socialism with communism. You cannot have communism without socialism.

Here is one link of many that explains the Scandinavian socialism idea and how much of it is myth.

Scandinavia Isn (http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/11/scandinavia-isnt-a-socialist-paradise/)

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Right on!

There is absolutely no reason to legislate abortion. It is up to each woman to make up her own mind - without government interference.

I cannot understand Conservatives who say they want less government but on the other hand want to regulate what each woman should decide.

Much to the Republican/Tea Party's angst, a woman's right to choose is the law of the land - as is same sex marriage! :beer3:

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Afraid so. Will not vote for her but will not vote for the Taliban wanabees

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Afraid so. Will not vote for her but will not vote for the Taliban wanabees

You should have said that you would not vote for her, THE Taliban wannabee.

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She's the one that is sympathetic to the Terrorists. After all, she is the one that covers for them.

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She's the one that is sympathetic to the Terrorists. After all, she is the one that covers for them.

Taking a page out of her old boss's (Obama) book!:laugh:

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Social Security is its name and social security was its game and this social program was designed by Democrats and passed by a Democratic President.
Some believe that the returns will be more than the contribution but they will not because compared to a personal and modest savings vehicle the returns are much less. As to SSDI I have no problem having my taxes applied to people in TRUE need of help. However the problem with SSDI and our welfare system is abuse and government employees don't seem to care.

In Denmark for instances people only take what they need. However we have far too many people that want free stuff and believe they deserve more and the best. I met a guy from Denmark who moved to The villages and I asked him why. He said he was tired of his government helping itself to is hard earned money

Next slide please.............

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It was another great Democrat (Johnson) that gave us more welfare programs that gut people's earnings and let people live off the dole

Democrats and their over reach created great inequities by establishing for protected classes meaning that they decided who advanced and who did not, who could enroll in a university and who could not etc etc etc

Woman's right to choose. Interesting take, plays out like a civil right doesn't it. So a woman chooses to be free with her body and then she chooses again to decide what to do with the unintended consequences. Some call it an accident, others a baby . so now we have many women who use this right to abort many times over because they have had many times over these accidents. Ironically the majority are black women.

Could you imagine what people, especially Democrats would say if a programs was legally devised to abort black babies in order to keep the black population from growing? Why there is such a program and it goes under the name of Doe v Wade.

Same sex marriage also played out as a civil right again a faux right but well any port in a storm. They had all the equal rights as heterosexuals , had no bars to work places, schools, military, etc , but what they wanted was validation that their act was normal and the re-definition of marriage. And so they now continue their campaign to wipe out gender under the "new normal" moniker. and let's no forget that all around this country people are going to jail or paying fines or having their businesses closed down if they refuse to be a part of their campaign to wipe out gender.


Personal Best Regards:

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Much to the Republican/Tea Party's angst, a woman's right to choose is the law of the land - as is same sex marriage! :beer3:


Yes, it is the law, thank goodness!!! You tea partiers can whine all you want, but it isn't going to change things. :pepper2:

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Social Security is its name and social security was its game and this social program was designed by Democrats and passed by a Democratic President.
Some believe that the returns will be more than the contribution but they will not because compared to a personal and modest savings vehicle the returns are much less. As to SSDI I have no problem having my taxes applied to people in TRUE need of help. However the problem with SSDI and our welfare system is abuse and government employees don't seem to care.

In Denmark for instances people only take what they need. However we have far too many people that want free stuff and believe they deserve more and the best. I met a guy from Denmark who moved to The villages and I asked him why. He said he was tired of his government helping itself to is hard earned money

Next slide please.............

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[Guest]

It was another great Democrat (Johnson) that gave us more welfare programs that gut people's earnings and let people live off the dole

Democrats and their over reach created great inequities by establishing for protected classes meaning that they decided who advanced and who did not, who could enroll in a university and who could not etc etc etc

Woman's right to choose. Interesting take, plays out like a civil right doesn't it. So a woman chooses to be free with her body and then she chooses again to decide what to do with the unintended consequences. Some call it an accident, others a baby . so now we have many women who use this right to abort many times over because they have had many times over these accidents. Ironically the majority are black women.

Could you imagine what people, especially Democrats would say if a programs was legally devised to abort black babies in order to keep the black population from growing? Why there is such a program and it goes under the name of Doe v Wade.

Same sex marriage also played out as a civil right again a faux right but well any port in a storm. They had all the equal rights as heterosexuals , had no bars to work places, schools, military, etc , but what they wanted was validation that their act was normal and the re-definition of marriage. And so they now continue their campaign to wipe out gender under the "new normal" moniker. and let's no forget that all around this country people are going to jail or paying fines or having their businesses closed down if they refuse to be a part of their campaign to wipe out gender.


Personal Best Regards:

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Yes, it is the law, thank goodness!!! You tea partiers can whine all you want, but it isn't going to change things. :pepper2:

I agree. More abortions, less liberals. Works for me.

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More abortions, less Democrat votes. Yep, you own it.