Cheer Up, Obama's Legacy could Be Erased

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Obama aspired to be a transformative president and indeed to the nation’s detriment he has succeeded. The manner in which he made his accomplishments has been through executive orders, regulations and agency action.

Obama’s policies in changing immigration laws, blocking Keystone XL pipeline, the Iranian nuclear agreement, and the normalization of relations with Cuba were all done with executive action. Obama used troves of government regulations on policies he knew never would pass through Congress such as his climate change agenda, Labor Department’s rules on fiduciary standards, National Labor Relation Board’s that franchisees are joint employers, the EPA’s power grab over waterways, FCC’s attempt to regulate the Internet as a 1930 Telephone monopoly
Even legislation rooted in law was enacted with avoidance of program details and the granting of excessive and vast powers of related federal agencies, to wit: Afforded Care Act and Dodd-Frank

The good news is that at the beginning of the 2016 inaugural address the new president could sign an executive order rescinding all of Obama’s executive orders deemed harmful to economic growth or constitutionally suspect. The new president could then establish a blue ribbon commission to review all other Obama executive orders. Any order not reissued or amended in 60 days could be automatically rescinded. To accelerate this process the new president should name new cabinet and agency appointees before congress begins…… As congress debates repealing Dodd Frank , the new president’s appointees could ensure that no financial institution is too big to fail, that Federal Reserve bureaucrats are removed from corporate boardrooms………… The Affordable Care Act also grants substantial flexibility in its implementation, a feature Obama repeatedly exploited. The new president could suspend penalties for individuals and employers, enforce income verification requirements, ease the premium shock by adjusting community ratings, allow a different pricing structure inside the exchanges, and alter provider compensation which ultimately will yield to repeal and replacement.

Phil Gramm & Michael Solon Cheer Up, Obama’s Legacy Can Be Erased WSJ 12/21/15 Excerpts thereof

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[Guest]

Obama aspired to be a transformative president and indeed to the nation’s detriment he has succeeded. The manner in which he made his accomplishments has been through executive orders, regulations and agency action.

Obama’s policies in changing immigration laws, blocking Keystone XL pipeline, the Iranian nuclear agreement, and the normalization of relations with Cuba were all done with executive action. Obama used troves of government regulations on policies he knew never would pass through Congress such as his climate change agenda, Labor Department’s rules on fiduciary standards, National Labor Relation Board’s that franchisees are joint employers, the EPA’s power grab over waterways, FCC’s attempt to regulate the Internet as a 1930 Telephone monopoly
Even legislation rooted in law was enacted with avoidance of program details and the granting of excessive and vast powers of related federal agencies, to wit: Afforded Care Act and Dodd-Frank

The good news is that at the beginning of the 2016 inaugural address the new president could sign an executive order rescinding all of Obama’s executive orders deemed harmful to economic growth or constitutionally suspect. :girlneener: The new president could then establish a blue ribbon commission to review all other Obama executive orders. :rant-rave: Any order not reissued or amended in 60 days could be automatically rescinded. To accelerate this process the new president should name new cabinet and agency appointees before congress begins……:a20: As congress debates repealing Dodd Frank , the new president’s appointees could ensure that no financial institution is too big to fail, that Federal Reserve bureaucrats are removed from corporate boardrooms………:rant-rave:… The Affordable Care Act also grants substantial flexibility in its implementation, a feature Obama repeatedly exploited. The new president could suspend penalties for individuals and employers, enforce income verification :rant-rave:requirements, ease the premium shock by adjusting community ratings, allow a different pricing structure inside the exchanges, and alter provider compensation which ultimately will yield to repeal.:rant-rave:

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Now, why in the world would Mrs. Clinton do those things? She is going to be the next President and even YOU know that for a fact.

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Now, why in the world would Mrs. Clinton do those things? She is going to be the next President and even YOU know that for a fact.

Sybil the liberal seems to be a bit delusional when it comes to an election where no one has even been nominated. Wonder if the FBI will wait to arrest Hillary until after the primaries or before.

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Do you really think the majority of America will vote for someone who is going to carry on in the footsteps of the current loser-in-chief?

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Do you really think the majority of America will vote for someone who is going to carry on in the footsteps of the current loser-in-chief?

Liberals think so. A bunch of them are still waiting for some of Obama's "stash."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBexiCMkXo

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So the 12 trillion on the charge card will be erased also? You forgot about cash for clunkers, the freebie electric LSV vechicle hand out, and all the law suits against states.

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Oh man, I am disappointed. When I first read the title of the thread, I thought it said "Cheer up, Obama could be erased" and I got all excited. On a serious note, Obama will go down in history as a fly speck. No one will even know that because of him we have come so close to the edge of the precipice.

[Guest]

Do you really think the majority of America will vote for someone who is going to carry on in the footsteps of the current loser-in-chief?

Hey Doofus,

You seem to be forgetting the majority of American voters TWICE voted Obama into office!

The loser-in-chief seems to be referring to McCain and to that Mormon ( a non-Christian).

[Guest]

Hey Doofus,

You seem to be forgetting the majority of American voters TWICE voted Obama into office!

The loser-in-chief seems to be referring to McCain and to that Mormon ( a non-Christian).

First let me start with ....KMA!

Secondly we have to keep reminding the mis-informed that what is of significance is that the majority of American voters did not and still does not reflect the majority of Americans!!!!! Unfortunately.

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Secondly we have to keep reminding the mis-informed that what is of significance is that the majority of American voters did not and still does not reflect the majority of Americans!!!!! Unfortunately.

The majority of American voters does not reflect the majority of Americans?

If you refuse to or choose not to vote, you have absolutely no say in how conditions are in the country.

If you did vote and your candidate lost, tough it out and try to change things so next time your candidate does better - but still respect that a greater percentage of voters chose another path than you did.

If your political party does not seek out a diverse culture but stays stagnating, it does not appeal to the modern masses and therefore will not win.

The voters decide. The majority of voters win.

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The majority of American voters does not reflect the majority of Americans?

If you refuse to or choose not to vote, you have absolutely no say in how conditions are in the country.

If you did vote and your candidate lost, tough it out and try to change things so next time your candidate does better - but still respect that a greater percentage of voters chose another path than you did.

If your political party does not seek out a diverse culture but stays stagnating, it does not appeal to the modern masses and therefore will not win.

The voters decide. The majority of voters win.

No attempt to chanGE the vote results.......still does not change the fact the majority of Americans did not choose Obama.....like it or not tis a fact!

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Everyone in support of Obama or Hillary Clinton causes one to think that given their absymal track records, their disdain and disrespect for America and its citizens and their lack of honesty and integrity leads one to conclude that such individuals have to be either delusional or cutters or both. You know the type those poor souls who continue to slash their bodies with a razor because they need to feel pain.

How else can you explain how anyone could not want to erase what Obama has done to harm this nation and to ensure that the next president will not continue down this road to America's destruction.

Frankly I am more concerned with the type of leadership of Obama and Clinton than I am of ISIS

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[Guest]

No attempt to chanGE the vote results.......still does not change the fact the majority of Americans did not choose Obama.....like it or not tis a fact!

The majority of voting Americans chose Obama. Like it or not, tis a fact.

The majority of voting Americans will choose Mrs. Clinton, too. Like it or not, tis a fact.

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The majority of voting Americans chose Obama. Like it or not, tis a fact.

The majority of voting Americans will choose Mrs. Clinton, too. Like it or not, tis a fact.

Get an education. Fact is not synonymous with opinion. It is your OPINION that a majority of voters will choose Chillary, not FACT. Right now, the latest poll since the debates indicates that only 46% of the Dem voters would vote for her if the election was today. But, you go ahead and vote for her. I am sure that winning is more important than your country. Obviously, if you chose Obama, you were not concerned about your country, just yourself.

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The majority of voting Americans chose Obama. Like it or not, tis a fact.

The majority of voting Americans will choose Mrs. Clinton, too. Like it or not, tis a fact.

This time around there will be many more republicans making sure they get out to vote. And this time there will be many more democrats who just will not be fooled a third time and are sick and tired at what is happening to our beloved America and it's core values.

You can hope all you want. It will not take much to offset the 3% difference of the last election.

Must be terrible for party loyalists to not have a choice in the matter who to vote for......and even worse when the best offered is one who is not qualified, untrustworthy, law breaking, liar, self centered on herself. Must be very disappointing for those able to think on their own.

[Guest]

This time around there will be many more republicans making sure they get out to vote. And this time there will be many more democrats who just will not be fooled a third time and are sick and tired at what is happening to our beloved America and it's core values.

You can hope all you want. It will not take much to offset the 3% difference of the last election.

Must be terrible for party loyalists to not have a choice in the matter who to vote for......and even worse when the best offered is one who is not qualified, untrustworthy, law breaking, liar, self centered on herself. Must be very disappointing for those able to think on their own.

That's an oxymoron. Dependent liberals able to think on their own..:a20:

[Guest]

The majority of voting Americans chose Obama. Like it or not, tis a fact.

The majority of voting Americans will choose Mrs. Clinton, too. Like it or not, tis a fact.

Dear Guest: Perhaps. But what is also fact is that the state of the economy and the state of our foreign affairs clearly reflect the dismal result of these two failing politicians.

One can understand loyalty of a fan to his team no matter how low they rank season after season. However it is just plain ludicrous to apply that kind of loyalty to elected leaders who have the fate of this nation and in some respects the free world . What is it about progressives that they do not understand what responsible and successful leadership looks like and how it affects their very being. Its as if they believe it is wise to form a circular firing squad.

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The circular firing squad seems to be prevalent among the Republican candidates, doesn't it?

You have Trump dissing everyone, Cruz and Rubles at each othets throat, Bush and Trump going at it, and the few remaining others so pathetically low they do not count.

Democrats win while Republicans self-destruct! It is really funny to watch their entire slate go down, down, and down the drain.

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Do you really think the majority of America will vote for someone who is going to carry on in the footsteps of the current loser-in-chief?

You need to realize that the non producers or those looking for a handout now outnumber the others so IMO, we are DOOMED and the GOP is in trouble unless they also become the party of Freebies. It's called "buying votes". Eventually the house of cards will all come tumbling down.

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Dear Guest: Perhaps. But what is also fact is that the state of the economy and the state of our foreign affairs clearly reflect the dismal result of these two failing politicians.

One can understand loyalty of a fan to his team no matter how low they rank season after season. However it is just plain ludicrous to apply that kind of loyalty to elected leaders who have the fate of this nation and in some respects the free world .
Personal Best Regards::a20::a20:

Crapweasel Bush found that out, didn't he? :a20:

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Crapweasel Bush found that out, didn't he? :a20:

One of these days you are going to drive off a cliff continuously looking in the rear view mirror.

Is there a lack of ability to stay on point......oh I forgot.....of course it is!

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Crapweasel Bush found that out, didn't he? :a20:

Sybil, what did I tell you? Seriously, do you have no pride? Do you really wish to be a slave? Do you enjoy being the gov's bit.h?

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Eventually, people are going to realize that they have given up all evidence that they ever had any pride. Without pride, they become slaves of the government. But, the really pathetic fact is that they don't care because they are convinced that the gov has their welfare as their priority. But, it doesn't. The gov wants to control ONLY. And liberals, being weak are the first to give in to becoming willing slaves. Hopefully, when they finally wake up, it will not be too late for them. Kind of like being a heroin addict, controlled by their need.

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[QUOTE=Guest;1162418]Eventually, people are going to realize that they have given up all evidence that they ever had any pride. Without pride, they become slaves of the government. But, the really pathetic fact is that they don't care because they are convinced that the gov has their welfare as their priority. But, it doesn't. The gov wants to control ONLY. And liberals, being weak are the first to give in to becoming willing slaves. Hopefully, when they finally wake up, it will not be too late for them. Kind of like being a heroin addict, controlled by their need.[/QUOTE

What a dolt.

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[QUOTE=Guest;1162418]Eventually, people are going to realize that they have given up all evidence that they ever had any pride. Without pride, they become slaves of the government. But, the really pathetic fact is that they don't care because they are convinced that the gov has their welfare as their priority. But, it doesn't. The gov wants to control ONLY. And liberals, being weak are the first to give in to becoming willing slaves. Hopefully, when they finally wake up, it will not be too late for them. Kind of like being a heroin addict, controlled by their need.[/QUOTE

What a dolt.

You are past redemption.

[Guest]

Obama lies:

I will have the most transparent administration in history.
The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.
I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.
The IRS is not targeting anyone.
It was a spontaneous riot about a movie.
I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
You didn't build that!
I will restore trust in Government.
The Cambridge cops acted stupidly.
The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my desk
It's not my red line - it is the world's red line.
Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.
We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto companies, with interest.
I am not spying on American citizens.
Obama Care will be good for America.
You can keep your family doctor.
Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
If you like it, you can keep your current healthcare plan.
It's just like shopping at Amazon.
I knew nothing about "Fast and Furious" gunrunning to Mexican drug cartels.
I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.
I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi.
I have never known my uncle from Kenya who is in the country illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20 years ago.
And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted (12-05-2013) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.
If elected I promise not to renew the Patriot Act.
If elected I will end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan within the 1st 9 months of my term.
I will close Guantanamo within the first 6 months of my term.
I will bridge the gap between black and white and between America and other countries.

And the biggest one of all:

"I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America."

[Guest]

Obama lies:

I will have the most transparent administration in history.
The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.
I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.
The IRS is not targeting anyone.
It was a spontaneous riot about a movie.
I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
You didn't build that!
I will restore trust in Government.
The Cambridge cops acted stupidly.
The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my desk
It's not my red line - it is the world's red line.
Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.
We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto companies, with interest.
I am not spying on American citizens.
Obama Care will be good for America.
You can keep your family doctor.
Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
If you like it, you can keep your current healthcare plan.
It's just like shopping at Amazon.
I knew nothing about "Fast and Furious" gunrunning to Mexican drug cartels.
I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.
I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi.
I have never known my uncle from Kenya who is in the country illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20 years ago.
And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted (12-05-2013) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.
If elected I promise not to renew the Patriot Act.
If elected I will end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan within the 1st 9 months of my term.
I will close Guantanamo within the first 6 months of my term.
I will bridge the gap between black and white and between America and other countries.

And the biggest one of all:

"I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America."

Just wondering, did you get your wife a bottle of Calvin Klein "Obsession" for Christmas?

[Guest]

Obama lies:

I will have the most transparent administration in history.
The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.
I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.
The IRS is not targeting anyone.
It was a spontaneous riot about a movie.
I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
You didn't build that!
I will restore trust in Government.
The Cambridge cops acted stupidly.
The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my desk
It's not my red line - it is the world's red line.
Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.
We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto companies, with interest.
I am not spying on American citizens.
Obama Care will be good for America.
You can keep your family doctor.
Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
If you like it, you can keep your current healthcare plan.
It's just like shopping at Amazon.
I knew nothing about "Fast and Furious" gunrunning to Mexican drug cartels.
I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.
I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi.
I have never known my uncle from Kenya who is in the country illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20 years ago.
And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted (12-05-2013) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.
If elected I promise not to renew the Patriot Act.
If elected I will end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan within the 1st 9 months of my term.
I will close Guantanamo within the first 6 months of my term.
I will bridge the gap between black and white and between America and other countries.

And the biggest one of all:

"I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America."

the above is what we call a good start!

:ho:

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Guest;1163087]the above is what we call a good start!

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No, the good start is the rapid decline of supporters of Carson, Bush, Graham dropping out, Cruz losing ground rapidly, and Rubio contributors drying up. Go Trump!:MOJE_whot:

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Guest;1163087]the above is what we call a good start!

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No, the good start is the rapid decline of supporters of Carson, Bush, Graham dropping out, Cruz losing ground rapidly, and Rubio contributors drying up. Go Trump!:MOJE_whot:

I can see you jumping for joy if Trump gets the nomination, thinking that Chillary will win. I wonder if you will also be crying the blues when Trump does win the general election and is your president. Unlike you, I want the best president, not hoping for a bad candidate for my choice to run against. You see, if a Democrat wins, I want him to the best Democrat, not the worst. I would rather see a good Democrat win, if I can't have a good Republican win. I am thinking of my country, not hoping for it to fail or for a new president that I don't like, just so that I can criticize him. I consider Trump to be the worst Republican candidate, but by far more superior than Chillary. Unfortunately, once again the Dems have no good candidates to run in this election. So, I will voter for my Republican candidate of choice, if he is still in the running, and then I will vote for the Republican nomination regardless of who wins it, in the general election. Anyone but Chillary and Sanders.

[Guest]

Just wondering, did you get your wife a bottle of Calvin Klein "Obsession" for Christmas?

Nope, but at least I have a wife. ;)

[Guest]

Nope, but at least I have a wife. ;)

I wish I did still have my wife, but she passed away a year ago. Be thankful every day you have with yours.