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Guest
01-18-2016, 08:35 AM
Nothing much no TV last night, after watching the NFL games. How about my Panthers? So, we decided to watch the great Debate. What a joke, especially on poor O'Malley. The poor guy had to beg for 30 seconds because the whole thing was hijacked by Sanders and his constant rant about Wall St and Campaign funding. Every question was answered with the same old rant, never answering the question. Hillary looked like she was really enjoying the show. She had the most horrifying smile frozen on her face, and her head nodded like a bobblehead on a car dashboard. Sanders was so proud of bragging about his being a Socialist when asked.

O'Malley did get one comment in that they all agreed on and were nodding and smiling as he stated with a puffed chest that "he knew of no hunters that required an AR-15 to hunt deer." He said he was totally against military style weapons for hunting. All I can say to that is that he has missed the boat on the 2nd Amendment. There is nothing in the Constitution that mentions hunting, but there IS something in the 2nd Amendment about a Militia.

Hillary had a great answer whether it was or was not on topic, as most of the time the questions went unanswered by the candidates, especially Sanders. Hillary said that ALL police officers should carry an antidote for Heroine and opiate overdose with them at all times so they could immediately administer it on the scene. Now, I don't know about anyone else listening to her last night, but that struck me as the stupidest, uninformed, ignorant statement I have ever heard. I won't go into how stupid that comment was.

Sanders was forced into commenting on health care once, between rants about Wall St and Campaign financing. He said he wanted the go to provide FREE health care for all. When asked if he would have to raise taxes to pay for it, he insisted that it wasn't so, because everyone would be saving five thousand dollars a year, so if they had a bit more taken from their paycheck, it would not be the same as raising taxes. It would not be a tax, just because it was taken from their paycheck, because they would be saving money. He scoffed at the moderators when they suggested that it sounded like a tax. Every time the moderator asked him a question, he would refuse to answer it, saying they should be asking something else and then would go on a rant like a demented old fool. Hillary was laughing her @ss off watching him take the heat off of her.

O'Malley was so pathetic because they did not want to give him a chance at any questions. He actually begged them "can I have 30 seconds too" like a little child not chosen to play ball with the other kids.

Their idea of dealing with terrorism is to negotiate with them and more understanding. Embrace them and welcome them into the community. When asked about Syria, Sanders said Assad had to go. He said that Assad was responsible for killing thousands of his own people with gas. I wish someone would have asked him about the near half a million that Sadaam killed with poison gas and how he was talking about the mistake of taking Sadaam out. And he did say that it was a mistake taking Sadaam out. When asked if he would have boots on the ground, he certainly not. He would negotiate a peaceful way for Assad to retire.

O'Malley jumped in with his statement that it was not Politically Correct to use the term "boots on the ground." He said that some soldiers mother told him that she did not like the use of the term "boots on the ground."

Once again, they argued on who was the most Socialist, who was going to offer the most free stuff, who was going to stick it to big banks, and how they were going to reform campaign contributions. After Hillary stated that she was going to change the way campaign contributions were done, Sanders did jump in and mention that she had received over $500K for speaking engagements from big business. She had no response to that. She did not like being called out on her hypocrisy.

There was a ton of hate for Republicans on last nights debate, with only O'Malley suggesting that they all need to get along and that he was the one to bring it about. That he did NOT consider the Republicans his enemy....even though he was on the band wagon against everything they represent.

After watching the debate, my wife left the room after telling me that she could not understand how anyone could believe that **** or vote for any one of them. She said, they must think the voter is really stupid to believe anything that they say. I responded that most voters were just uninformed. They don't hear most of this stuff on the mainstream media, and most voters do not want to know how the sausage is made.

I have a friend that once told me that he would never eat a hot dog. I asked him for the reason. He told me that his grandfather owned a hot dog factory and after going to work with him once and seeing how the hot dogs were made, he could never eat one again. The voter wants to consume whatever they can get free from the gov, but do not want to know how it is made. If they knew how bad our national debt really was and how bad our economy is teetering on the brink of the precipice, they would panic. We have a lot of people in our country that feel that it is OK to share in the fruits of others efforts. They do not want to know how the sausage is made or what the ingredients are. They just want to consume it. They do not wish to make the sausage, just want the gov to provide it. The rich have a lot of sausage, and the lazy demand it be confiscated and given to them.

Fact: There is not enough money to pay for all the Free stuff that these candidates want to give away, even if they tax the rich 90%. Isn't anyone interested in how they are going to accomplish all their magic without the money to pay for it? Sanders will tax everyone to pay for his socialized health care. The others won't admit how they plan to pay for it. Hillary says Obamacare is the greatest accomplishment in the history of America.

Any other comments on last night's Democrat debate?

Guest
01-18-2016, 08:51 AM
Well, my comment would be that you and your wife are the ones who missed the boat.

If anyone wants to join a militia, just look at the nutcases out in Idaho and Oregon who have taken up arms against the US Federal government. Is that what you want? That is a Federal crime!

Confiscate billionaire's money and give it to the poor? What planet did you and your wife hear that on? Make them pay their fair proportion of taxes is a very good idea, though.

Socialists? How about social programs like food stamps for the needy, welfare for the needy, Social Security for the needy? You know, helping the hungry and poor - kind of what Jesus preached about?

Guest
01-18-2016, 08:54 AM
Looking forward to your recap of the next Rrpublican debate in Iowa on the 28th. That should be great entertainment.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:02 AM
Looking forward to your recap of the next Rrpublican debate in Iowa on the 28th. That should be great entertainment.

Thank you, Chi. Guess you didn't watch it last night. I don't blame you. Nothing new. Lots of spending like a drunken sailor, but no new ideas about boosting the economy so they can pay for it.

Second recession is on it's way.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:18 AM
Well, my comment would be that you and your wife are the ones who missed the boat.

If anyone wants to join a militia, just look at the nutcases out in Idaho and Oregon who have taken up arms against the US Federal government. Is that what you want? That is a Federal crime!

Confiscate billionaire's money and give it to the poor? What planet did you and your wife hear that on? Make them pay their fair proportion of taxes is a very good idea, though.

Socialists? How about social programs like food stamps for the needy, welfare for the needy, Social Security for the needy? You know, helping the hungry and poor - kind of what Jesus preached about?

A militia is NOT a federal crime, so why do you make up lies? A few nut cases does not make up a country. Do you see anything about hunting in the Constitution? I do see something about a militia though. Did you miss that part in your great education?

If you watched the debate, you too would have heard how they want to take money from the wealthy. When you say make them pay their fair share, what is that exactly? Does anyone else pay their own fair share, or just those that you deem to be better off than yourself? Fair share always means something different with liberals and socialists than that of the definition in the Dictionary. You all make up your own meaning, right?

I've not read the same Bible you read. Jesus never preached socialism, although he did preach charity. Feel free to feed the hungry poor. But, do it with your own money, not by forcing others to pay because you deem it the right thing. I find it kind of disingenuous that liberals try to use the Bible that they consider to be fiction. Most of the liberals I have spoken to in the past believe the Bible to be fiction and God to be a myth. Am I speaking to one that has seen the light?

Rationalizing by a liberal is merely justifying their lack of ethics and morality. In my America, people are treated with equal rights. Equal also means equally taxed at the same rate no matter what income. But, that does not correspond with your definition of "fair." Fair to you might be different than what is considered fair to another. But equal does not change. Half a glass of milk is half a glass no matter the size of the glass.

The Dems in the debate last night want to repeat the actions that brought down our economy the last time. They admit it too.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:19 AM
The primary contests for both parties are a sad reflection of what America has become. I watched only :15 of the debate last night and amazed that most American voters do indeed believe in something for nothing, it is driving both parties. I'm a life long Republican and embarrassed to admit it. Increasing military spending along with a big tax cut, most Republicans cheer that on but it does not add up. Socialist or not I cannot help but admire Bernie's honesty about raising taxes to help pay for single payer. Unfortunately for him it will kill his campaign. It is going to be more unfunded spending or unfunded tax cuts that will win the day. Santa likes us so called conservatives too.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:21 AM
Looking forward to your recap of the next Rrpublican debate in Iowa on the 28th. That should be great entertainment.

They have a memory loss treatment center here in the Villages, in case you forgot that there was much discussion on here regarding the last GOP debate. You might want to check it out, because I know you are on here all the time so you could not have missed the other discussions. After all, you have contributed several one liner, snide remarks in those discussions.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:32 AM
Thank you, Chi. Guess you didn't watch it last night. I don't blame you. Nothing new. Lots of spending like a drunken sailor, but no new ideas about boosting the economy so they can pay for it.

Second recession is on it's way.
You're right, I missed it. DVR'd Downton and watched episodes of Caribbean Life on HGTV.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:43 AM
Nothing much no TV last night, after watching the NFL games. How about my Panthers? So, we decided to watch the great Debate. What a joke, especially on poor O'Malley. The poor guy had to beg for 30 seconds because the whole thing was hijacked by Sanders and his constant rant about Wall St and Campaign funding. Every question was answered with the same old rant, never answering the question. Hillary looked like she was really enjoying the show. She had the most horrifying smile frozen on her face, and her head nodded like a bobblehead on a car dashboard. Sanders was so proud of bragging about his being a Socialist when asked.

O'Malley did get one comment in that they all agreed on and were nodding and smiling as he stated with a puffed chest that "he knew of no hunters that required an AR-15 to hunt deer." He said he was totally against military style weapons for hunting. All I can say to that is that he has missed the boat on the 2nd Amendment. There is nothing in the Constitution that mentions hunting, but there IS something in the 2nd Amendment about a Militia.

Hillary had a great answer whether it was or was not on topic, as most of the time the questions went unanswered by the candidates, especially Sanders. Hillary said that ALL police officers should carry an antidote for Heroine and opiate overdose with them at all times so they could immediately administer it on the scene. Now, I don't know about anyone else listening to her last night, but that struck me as the stupidest, uninformed, ignorant statement I have ever heard. I won't go into how stupid that comment was.

Sanders was forced into commenting on health care once, between rants about Wall St and Campaign financing. He said he wanted the go to provide FREE health care for all. When asked if he would have to raise taxes to pay for it, he insisted that it wasn't so, because everyone would be saving five thousand dollars a year, so if they had a bit more taken from their paycheck, it would not be the same as raising taxes. It would not be a tax, just because it was taken from their paycheck, because they would be saving money. He scoffed at the moderators when they suggested that it sounded like a tax. Every time the moderator asked him a question, he would refuse to answer it, saying they should be asking something else and then would go on a rant like a demented old fool. Hillary was laughing her @ss off watching him take the heat off of her.

O'Malley was so pathetic because they did not want to give him a chance at any questions. He actually begged them "can I have 30 seconds too" like a little child not chosen to play ball with the other kids.

Their idea of dealing with terrorism is to negotiate with them and more understanding. Embrace them and welcome them into the community. When asked about Syria, Sanders said Assad had to go. He said that Assad was responsible for killing thousands of his own people with gas. I wish someone would have asked him about the near half a million that Sadaam killed with poison gas and how he was talking about the mistake of taking Sadaam out. And he did say that it was a mistake taking Sadaam out. When asked if he would have boots on the ground, he certainly not. He would negotiate a peaceful way for Assad to retire.

O'Malley jumped in with his statement that it was not Politically Correct to use the term "boots on the ground." He said that some soldiers mother told him that she did not like the use of the term "boots on the ground."

Once again, they argued on who was the most Socialist, who was going to offer the most free stuff, who was going to stick it to big banks, and how they were going to reform campaign contributions. After Hillary stated that she was going to change the way campaign contributions were done, Sanders did jump in and mention that she had received over $500K for speaking engagements from big business. She had no response to that. She did not like being called out on her hypocrisy.

There was a ton of hate for Republicans on last nights debate, with only O'Malley suggesting that they all need to get along and that he was the one to bring it about. That he did NOT consider the Republicans his enemy....even though he was on the band wagon against everything they represent.

After watching the debate, my wife left the room after telling me that she could not understand how anyone could believe that **** or vote for any one of them. She said, they must think the voter is really stupid to believe anything that they say. I responded that most voters were just uninformed. They don't hear most of this stuff on the mainstream media, and most voters do not want to know how the sausage is made.

I have a friend that once told me that he would never eat a hot dog. I asked him for the reason. He told me that his grandfather owned a hot dog factory and after going to work with him once and seeing how the hot dogs were made, he could never eat one again. The voter wants to consume whatever they can get free from the gov, but do not want to know how it is made. If they knew how bad our national debt really was and how bad our economy is teetering on the brink of the precipice, they would panic. We have a lot of people in our country that feel that it is OK to share in the fruits of others efforts. They do not want to know how the sausage is made or what the ingredients are. They just want to consume it. They do not wish to make the sausage, just want the gov to provide it. The rich have a lot of sausage, and the lazy demand it be confiscated and given to them.

Fact: There is not enough money to pay for all the Free stuff that these candidates want to give away, even if they tax the rich 90%. Isn't anyone interested in how they are going to accomplish all their magic without the money to pay for it? Sanders will tax everyone to pay for his socialized health care. The others won't admit how they plan to pay for it. Hillary says Obamacare is the greatest accomplishment in the history of America.

Any other comments on last night's Democrat debate?


I thought it was right on target. The democrats are for the average person, not you high rollers. Get used to it, the dem's will win in a landslide.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:46 AM
You're right, I missed it. DVR'd Downton and watched episodes of Caribbean Life on HGTV.

Never watched Downton, but my wife is trying to catch up on it to watch the last season. I watched a bit of the beachfront properties, I believe were on HGTV yesterday. Amazing how much a property can cost according to the location. A home here might cost two hundred grand and cost half a million somewhere else, with the same square footage but less features. Since living in Panama a while back, I still get real estate advertisements featuring properties for sale down there.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:46 AM
A militia is NOT a federal crime, so why do you make up lies? A few nut cases does not make up a country. Do you see anything about hunting in the Constitution? I do see something about a militia though. Did you miss that part in your great education?

If you watched the debate, you too would have heard how they want to take money from the wealthy. When you say make them pay their fair share, what is that exactly? Does anyone else pay their own fair share, or just those that you deem to be better off than yourself? Fair share always means something different with liberals and socialists than that of the definition in the Dictionary. You all make up your own meaning, right?

I've not read the same Bible you read. Jesus never preached socialism, although he did preach charity. Feel free to feed the hungry poor. But, do it with your own money, not by forcing others to pay because you deem it the right thing. I find it kind of disingenuous that liberals try to use the Bible that they consider to be fiction. Most of the liberals I have spoken to in the past believe the Bible to be fiction and God to be a myth. Am I speaking to one that has seen the light?

Rationalizing by a liberal is merely justifying their lack of ethics and morality. In my America, people are treated with equal rights. Equal also means equally taxed at the same rate no matter what income. But, that does not correspond with your definition of "fair." Fair to you might be different than what is considered fair to another. But equal does not change. Half a glass of milk is half a glass no matter the size of the glass.

The Dems in the debate last night want to repeat the actions that brought down our economy the last time. They admit it too.


Jesus was a liberal, or don't you read his teachings?

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:49 AM
A militia is NOT a federal crime, so why do you make up lies? A few nut cases does not make up a country. Do you see anything about hunting in the Constitution? I do see something about a militia though. Did you miss that part in your great education?

If you watched the debate, you too would have heard how they want to take money from the wealthy. When you say make them pay their fair share, what is that exactly? Does anyone else pay their own fair share, or just those that you deem to be better off than yourself? Fair share always means something different with liberals and socialists than that of the definition in the Dictionary. You all make up your own meaning, right?

I've not read the same Bible you read. Jesus never preached socialism, although he did preach charity. Feel free to feed the hungry poor. But, do it with your own money, not by forcing others to pay because you deem it the right thing. I find it kind of disingenuous that liberals try to use the Bible that they consider to be fiction. Most of the liberals I have spoken to in the past believe the Bible to be fiction and God to be a myth. Am I speaking to one that has seen the light?

Rationalizing by a liberal is merely justifying their lack of ethics and morality. In my America, people are treated with equal rights. Equal also means equally taxed at the same rate no matter what income. But, that does not correspond with your definition of "fair." Fair to you might be different than what is considered fair to another. But equal does not change. Half a glass of milk is half a glass no matter the size of the glass.

The Dems in the debate last night want to repeat the actions that brought down our economy the last time. They admit it too.

No militia is not a federal crime, only when they break the law, or are you for that?

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:52 AM
I thought it was right on target. The democrats are for the average person, not you high rollers. Get used to it, the dem's will win in a landslide.

The democrats are for themselves, and the rich. They just make believe for guppies like you, that they are for the little guy. If they destroy America, then they become the elite class of their socialist Utopia.

I bet you are going to be devastated when your liberal royalty gets defeated in November. The Dem's do not have a viable candidate to represent them. Their ONLY chance is to force Biden to jump in at the last moment. Even then, it doesn't take a crystal ball to see the results of the next election.

Guest
01-18-2016, 10:00 AM
The democrats are for themselves, and the rich. They just make believe for guppies like you, that they are for the little guy. If they destroy America, then they become the elite class of their socialist Utopia.

I bet you are going to be devastated when your liberal royalty gets defeated in November. The Dem's do not have a viable candidate to represent them. Their ONLY chance is to force Biden to jump in at the last moment. Even then, it doesn't take a crystal ball to see the results of the next election.

And they do know it all too well!!

Guest
01-18-2016, 10:01 AM
No militia is not a federal crime, only when they break the law, or are you for that?

I guess you are against guns because they break the law, also. Your comment is ludicrous, to put it kindly.

Guest
01-18-2016, 10:12 AM
Jesus was a liberal, or don't you read his teachings?

Yep, I have and I have to disagree with you. I am not going to get into religion with a liberal, because if you don't believe then you wouldn't understand what you are arguing about. Jesus was not a liberal, suffice it to say. I will leave it for another thread, but I can easily shut your argument down in a heartbeat, if necessary. Saying something is true, doesn't make it true unless you have facts to support your statement.

Kind of like Sanders saying in one sentence that he would not be raising taxes for the middle class, and then saying that deducting money to pay for gov health care is not a tax when you are saving money from the private insurance company. Liberals/socialists are not credible, and anyone that takes the time to listen to them always realize this. Others prefer to walk about deaf to what the socialists are telling them.

Guest
01-18-2016, 10:35 AM
I heard on the news today that citizens that have not been voting in the past are now saying that they are going to come out and vote for Trump. Interesting, and I would like to see the details of the polling. I would be interested in seeing the questions used and the demographics used in their poll. If anyone has the information, I would be interested in the link.

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:01 AM
I found the Bronco's football game very riveting....

And we won!!!

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:01 AM
Well, my comment would be that you and your wife are the ones who missed the boat.

If anyone wants to join a militia, just look at the nutcases out in Idaho and Oregon who have taken up arms against the US Federal government. Is that what you want? That is a Federal crime!

Confiscate billionaire's money and give it to the poor? What planet did you and your wife hear that on? Make them pay their fair proportion of taxes is a very good idea, though.

Socialists? How about social programs like food stamps for the needy, welfare for the needy, Social Security for the needy? You know, helping the hungry and poor - kind of what Jesus preached about?

SS is not hand out for the needy. It's earned retirement for those who worked all there life paying in. Not for some freeloading person who never paid in or those who jumped the boarder for hand out. thats the problem with SS it's turned into handout for party voting base.

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:07 AM
I have watched all the debates - quite a contrast:

Democrats: Intelligent adults seeking solutions for the good of America.

Republicans: Petulant children seeking votes from angry bigots and money from individuals and corporations who want to continue polluting, stealing money, and holding power.

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:48 AM
I have watched all the debates - quite a contrast:

Democrats: Intelligent adults seeking solutions for the good of America. barf

Republicans: Petulant children seeking votes from angry bigots and money from individuals and corporations who want to continue polluting, stealing money, and holding power.

You got this weeks talking points already....and it is even a holiday for some.

Very quick implementation of the current X-X-X kool aide training program.

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:55 AM
I found the Bronco's football game very riveting....

And we won!!!

And so did my Panthers!!

Guest
01-18-2016, 12:06 PM
I have watched all the debates - quite a contrast:

Democrats: Intelligent adults seeking solutions for the good of America.

Republicans: Petulant children seeking votes from angry bigots and money from individuals and corporations who want to continue polluting, stealing money, and holding power.

What year rerun debates did you watch?

Did you not observe Sanders ranting and shouting with spittle and foam about his lips?
Did you not hear a ludicrous statement from Hillary about how the police should carry an antidote for heroine overdose?
Did you not see the whole Democrat/liberal/socialist debate start out by attempting to kiss the black caucus @ss for their endorsement? Pathetic and desperation at it's best.
Did you not hear O'Malley beg for 30 seconds to speak?
Did you not hear Sanders blather on and on about campaign finance when asked about terrorism, health care, or gun control?

Nope, you did not watch either debate, or you wouldn't have made such a ridiculous comment.

Guest
01-18-2016, 12:20 PM
What year rerun debates did you watch?

Did you not observe Sanders ranting and shouting with spittle and foam about his lips?
Did you not hear a ludicrous statement from Hillary about how the police should carry an antidote for heroine overdose?
Did you not see the whole Democrat/liberal/socialist debate start out by attempting to kiss the black caucus @ss for their endorsement? Pathetic and desperation at it's best.
Did you not hear O'Malley beg for 30 seconds to speak?
Did you not hear Sanders blather on and on about campaign finance when asked about terrorism, health care, or gun control?

Nope, you did not watch either debate, or you wouldn't have made such a ridiculous comment.
Why did you watch the debate?

Guest
01-18-2016, 12:32 PM
Why did you watch the debate?

Because for the life of me, I can not see how any knowledgeable American can vote for any of the available Demo/socialist candidates. I have come to the conclusion that the average American is NOT knowledgeable OR they are voting out of avarice....or both. I see no benefit for our country from anything that was said by any of the candidates in the debate(?) last night.

What many did not hear, is more interesting and important than what was said.

Guest
01-18-2016, 12:41 PM
SS is not hand out for the needy. It's earned retirement for those who worked all there life paying in. Not for some freeloading person who never paid in or those who jumped the boarder for hand out. thats the problem with SS it's turned into handout for party voting base.

You had best check out everything that Social Security pays for. There is SSI which are disability payments, it pays benefits for widows and children, and other things that are not retirement related issues.

Border means a boundry, boarder means a renter.

Guest
01-18-2016, 12:58 PM
[QUOTE=Guest;1173430]A militia is NOT a federal crime, so why do you make up lies? A few nut cases does not make up a country. Do you see anything about hunting in the Constitution? I do see something about a militia though. Did you miss that part in your great education?

If you watched the debate, you too would have heard how they want to take money from the wealthy. When you say make them pay their fair share, what is that exactly? Does anyone else pay their own fair share, or just those that you deem to be better off than yourself? Fair share always means something different with liberals and socialists than that of the definition in the Dictionary. You all make up your own meaning, right?

I've not read the same Bible you read. Jesus never preached socialism, although he did preach charity. Feel free to feed the hungry poor. But, do it with your own money, not by forcing others to pay because you deem it the right thing. I find it kind of disingenuous that liberals try to use the Bible that they consider to be fiction. Most of the liberals I have spoken to in the past believe the Bible to be fiction and God to be a myth. Am I speaking to one that has seen the light?

Rationalizing by a liberal is merely justifying their lack of ethics and morality. In my America, people are treated with equal rights. Equal also means equally taxed at the same rate no matter what income. But, that does not correspond with your definition of "fair." Fair to you might be different than what is considered fair to another. But equal does not change. Half a glass of milk is half a glass no matter the size of the glass.

The Dems in the debate last night want to repeat the actions that brought down our economy the last time. They admit it too.[/QUOTE

Where to begin? First, no one said Jesus was a socialist. Social programs like food stamps, welfare benefits, SSI were mentioned. Look at all other civilized countries and they have cradle to grave social programs. That is good!

Higher taxes for these things from those who can afford it! Good! Not redistribution of wealth but social programs!

Treat people equally? Great! Do it!!

Guest
01-18-2016, 01:17 PM
Adding on a bit to my previous reply, I DID NOT say a militia was a Federal crime. I said that the nut cases who call themselves a militia and take up arms against the Federal government are breaking Federal law - like the crazies in Oregon.

Yes, tax rates should be higher for those with incomes over $1 million than for those with incomes of $50,000. No, not a ridiculous 90 percent but somewhat higher than the lower income groups. Do away with the offshore accounts and corporation acounts paying nothing. Fair share! No, I do not have specific numbers in mind.

Feel free to feed the hungry - but don't make me help? God Christian attitude you got there. As far as you think liberals think the Bible is fiction and God is a myth - bull hockey! That is an idiotic statement and if you truly believe it, you are an idiot.

Guest
01-18-2016, 01:33 PM
[/QUOTE

Where to begin? First, no one said Jesus was a socialist. Social programs like food stamps, welfare benefits, SSI were mentioned. Look at all other civilized countries and they have cradle to grave social programs. That is good!

Higher taxes for these things from those who can afford it! Good! Not redistribution of wealth but social programs!

Treat people equally? Great! Do it!![/QUOTE]

Socialism is GOOD??? That's your opinion, not the majority of real Americans.

Higher taxes from those that can afford it??? Why do believe in discrimination? I thought you folks didn't believe in discrimination. What you are saying is opposite of "fair" which your supposedly believe in. Fair to you is not fair to others, that have to sacrifice, that worked for a living.
Not redistribution of wealth??? I didn't say it was, but now that you mention it, it is. If the gov takes from the wealthy to give to the lazy, then that is called redistribution. Call it what you prefer, but like they say, you can put lipstick on a pig.....

Guest
01-18-2016, 01:40 PM
Because for the life of me, I can not see how any knowledgeable American can vote for any of the available Demo/socialist candidates. I have come to the conclusion that the average American is NOT knowledgeable OR they are voting out of avarice....or both. I see no benefit for our country from anything that was said by any of the candidates in the debate(?) last night.

What many did not hear, is more interesting and important than what was said.

Ah the old "my side is knowledgeable, yours is not", argument. Both sides have knowledge, but not necessarily judgment and wisdom. Don't flatter yourself that your side is in sole possession of knowledge, you refute that premise with your post.

Guest
01-18-2016, 01:49 PM
Adding on a bit to my previous reply, I DID NOT say a militia was a Federal crime. I said that the nut cases who call themselves a militia and take up arms against the Federal government are breaking Federal law - like the crazies in Oregon.

Yes, tax rates should be higher for those with incomes over $1 million than for those with incomes of $50,000. No, not a ridiculous 90 percent but somewhat higher than the lower income groups. Do away with the offshore accounts and corporation acounts paying nothing. Fair share! No, I do not have specific numbers in mind.

Feel free to feed the hungry - but don't make me help? God Christian attitude you got there. As far as you think liberals think the Bible is fiction and God is a myth - bull hockey! That is an idiotic statement and if you truly believe it, you are an idiot.

Nice back pedal on the "militia" flip. Now, you have to explain what crazies have to do with the original comment about the 2nd amendment and the militia. Never mind, I got your original implication...before you back pedaled.

Now, you try to rationalize your taxing belief. You believe that tax rates should be higher for some than others. So, you do believe in discrimination, but only if it suits you. So, if I said I believe that anyone that doesn't work 40 hours a week should have to pay more taxes because they are lazy, you would be ok with it, right? No??? Discrimination is discrimination, right?
Christian attitude? Why can't I be Jewish or Buddhist? Are you assuming that I am a Christian, therefore should welcome socialism because it takes care of everyone? You accuse me of assuming that liberals are none believers, and then you assume a lot on me. But, yes it is more or less a given that most liberals are non-believers. I have yet to be called out for believing in a myth by a conservative. It has always/always been a liberal. Liberals want to ban religion from the public, They want it taken off of our currency and out of our schools. They do not believe in creation. Do you dispute that? WHy be ashamed of what you believe in? Own it.
As far as calling me a name, it would not be Christian of me to be offended by it, right? So, I should welcome your calling me an idiot.....if I am a Christian. I guess you assume quite a lot. That is very selfish of you, and very liberal.

Guest
01-18-2016, 02:01 PM
You had best check out everything that Social Security pays for. There is SSI which are disability payments, it pays benefits for widows and children, and other things that are not retirement related issues.

Border means a boundry, boarder means a renter.

SSI is paid for by the general funds, not Social Security. Congress just stole a big chunk from the social security fund to pay for the big increase in SSI. The largest increase in history, a giant increase since Obama became administrator.

It's probably not too bright to criticize someone's spelling on here. It's real easy to think faster than you type, therefore making a few mistakes in grammar and spelling. Correction often sends a message that you have a weak argument and have become very defensive. I am not criticizing you, but merely adding a bit of affectionate advice. Have a great day.

Guest
01-18-2016, 02:05 PM
I have watched all the debates - quite a contrast:

Democrats: Intelligent adults seeking solutions for the good of America.

Republicans: Petulant children seeking votes from angry bigots and money from individuals and corporations who want to continue polluting, stealing money, and holding power.

Dear guest: Now admit it you didn't know what a petulant child was until you looked it up after Chris Christy used it to explain Obama's actions.

You label the Democrats of being intelligent adults with solutions good for America but FDR's LBJ's and Obama years have all been disasters. the only reason Clinton did well is because he had a Republican Congress.

speaking of intelligence look back at Hillary Clinton's past troubles year after year. Clearly it does not speak to a presidential candidate who is suppose to be in possession of mental exceptionalism

finally every Democratic debate has been schedule to reduce the number of viewership for obvious reasons. I suspect the next Democratic debate to take place at 2:00 AM on a Sunday.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
01-18-2016, 02:13 PM
Dear guest: Now admit it you didn't know what a petulant child was until you looked it up after Chris Christy used it to explain Obama's actions.

You label the Democrats of being intelligent adults with solutions good for America but FDR's LBJ's and Obama years have all been disasters. the only reason Clinton did well is because he had a Republican Congress.

speaking of intelligence look back at Hillary Clinton's past troubles year after year. Clearly it does not speak to a presidential candidate who is suppose to be in possession of mental exceptionalism

finally every Democratic debate has been schedule to reduce the number of viewership for obvious reasons. I suspect the next Democratic debate to take place at 2:00 AM on a Sunday.

Personal Best Regards:

:thumbup:

Guest
01-18-2016, 02:28 PM
What??

Guest
01-18-2016, 06:02 PM
Nice back pedal on the "militia" flip. Now, you have to explain what crazies have to do with the original comment about the 2nd amendment and the militia. Never mind, I got your original implication...before you back pedaled.

Now, you try to rationalize your taxing belief. You believe that tax rates should be higher for some than others. So, you do believe in discrimination, but only if it suits you. So, if I said I believe that anyone that doesn't work 40 hours a week should have to pay more taxes because they are lazy, you would be ok with it, right? No??? Discrimination is discrimination, right?
Christian attitude? Why can't I be Jewish or Buddhist? Are you assuming that I am a Christian, therefore should welcome socialism because it takes care of everyone? You accuse me of assuming that liberals are none believers, and then you assume a lot on me. But, yes it is more or less a given that most liberals are non-believers. I have yet to be called out for believing in a myth by a conservative. It has always/always been a liberal. Liberals want to ban religion from the public, They want it taken off of our currency and out of our schools. They do not believe in creation. Do you dispute that? WHy be ashamed of what you believe in? Own it.
As far as calling me a name, it would not be Christian of me to be offended by it, right? So, I should welcome your calling me an idiot.....if I am a Christian. I guess you assume quite a lot. That is very selfish of you, and very liberal.

You are one of the loons that we talk about at our City Fire discussions! This posting definitely underscores the loon part. Just keep babbling away - we are laughing AT you. Thank you for the laughs. You make this so easy.

Guest
01-18-2016, 06:37 PM
Dear guest: Now admit it you didn't know what a petulant child was until you looked it up after Chris Christy used it to explain Obama's actions.

You label the Democrats of being intelligent adults with solutions good for America but FDR's LBJ's and Obama years have all been disasters. the only reason Clinton did well is because he had a Republican Congress.

speaking of intelligence look back at Hillary Clinton's past troubles year after year. Clearly it does not speak to a presidential candidate who is suppose to be in possession of mental exceptionalism

finally every Democratic debate has been schedule to reduce the number of viewership for obvious reasons. I suspect the next Democratic debate to take place at 2:00 AM on a Sunday.

Personal Best Regards:

You can't stand that your bigoted, nasty, lying, back stabbing republicans are going to lose in the presidential election, can you?

Guest
01-18-2016, 07:17 PM
You are one of the loons that we talk about at our City Fire discussions! This posting definitely underscores the loon part. Just keep babbling away - we are laughing AT you. Thank you for the laughs. You make this so easy.

Thecontinual reference to the city fire group is supposed to lend authentication?

Credibility?

Sounds the the 6 pack type nonsensical rhetoric.

Guest
01-18-2016, 07:34 PM
What??

Out of the mouth of babes!

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:02 PM
Out of the mouth of babes!

Yup, perfect logic of a four year old girl.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:37 PM
Yup, perfect logic of a four year old girl.

...or a Reactionary Yapster :cus: from The Villages.

Guest
01-18-2016, 09:39 PM
Well, my comment would be that you and your wife are the ones who missed the boat.

If anyone wants to join a militia, just look at the nutcases out in Idaho and Oregon who have taken up arms against the US Federal government. Is that what you want? That is a Federal crime!

Confiscate billionaire's money and give it to the poor? What planet did you and your wife hear that on? Make them pay their fair proportion of taxes is a very good idea, though.

Socialists? How about social programs like food stamps for the needy, welfare for the needy, Social Security for the needy? You know, helping the hungry and poor - kind of what Jesus preached about?
Ok I will skip the militia part. Let's go to comment number 2 about having wealthier people pay their fair share. Isn't it interesting that I haven't heard 1 person on the left throw out a percentage with the remark "fair share". Number 3, all these things for the needy. We are over 18 trillion dollars in debt, maybe Jesus would have also preached fiscal responsibility along with personal responsibility for one self and their family. Safety nets are a good thing to help people climb out of a bad situation and not to use it as a way of life.
:spoken:

Guest
01-19-2016, 06:30 AM
You can't stand that your bigoted, nasty, lying, back stabbing republicans are going to lose in the presidential election, can you?

Oooo, another angry liberal, worried that he might lose his chance at a piece of Obama's "stash" that he was promised. If you were so confident that the Repubicans were going to lose, you wouldn't be "losing" your cool... :laugh::laugh:

Guest
01-19-2016, 07:44 AM
Hillary Clinton said in the Democratic debate that ”no individual is too powerful to jail.”

Is she referring to herself or Bill?

Guest
01-19-2016, 12:17 PM
Hillary Clinton said in the Democratic debate that ”no individual is too powerful to jail.”

Is she referring to herself or Bill?


No. Michigan Governor Rick Snyder who allowed the poisoning of Flint, Michigan.

Guest
01-19-2016, 12:59 PM
No. Michigan Governor Rick Snyder who allowed the poisoning of Flint, Michigan.

Maybe that is who she was thinking of, but she is a being a bit hypocritical if she is ignoring her and her husband in that category.

Guest
01-21-2016, 09:37 AM
Hillary for ???