Planned Parenthood

[Guest]

The investigation in Texas into the Planned Parenthood videos has led to an indictment the anti-abortion activists. The video's were highly edited as to paint the subjects as violating the law, i.e. selling baby parts.

Investigation Into Planned Parenthood Leads To Indictment Of Anti-Abortion Activists (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/investigation-into-planned-parenthood-leads-to-indictment-of-anti-abortion-activists_us_56a69c92e4b0b87beec5cf61)

[Guest]

The investigation in Texas into the Planned Parenthood videos has led to an indictment the anti-abortion activists. The video's were highly edited as to paint the subjects as violating the law, i.e. selling baby parts.

Investigation Into Planned Parenthood Leads To Indictment Of Anti-Abortion Activists (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/investigation-into-planned-parenthood-leads-to-indictment-of-anti-abortion-activists_us_56a69c92e4b0b87beec5cf61)

It won't matter to the right wing believers. They don't care about the truth or any facts that don't fit their narrative. Florida, among others will continue to bang the anti PP narrative despite the FACT that it has been proven to be a fabricated and manipulated lie. The right wing media will deny the facts as they don't fit their worldview, or what they want to perpetuate.

[Guest]

OK...forget the editing.

What they said in the settings in which they made the statements were not acting...it was real.

What they do is still murderous butchering of innocents.

Hiding behind the editing to make it sound as though what they say and do other than what it really is .....killing and selling of parts.

Paint the picture however you like or what ever suits the marching directions you have been given on the subject.

Re-definition....redirection.....lies....SOP!

[Guest]

OK...forget the editing.

What they said in the settings in which they made the statements were not acting...it was real.

What they do is still murderous butchering of innocents.

Hiding behind the editing to make it sound as though what they say and do other than what it really is .....killing and selling of parts.

Paint the picture however you like or what ever suits the marching directions you have been given on the subject.

Re-definition....redirection.....lies....SOP!

I believe that abortions are legal in the United States and have been for many years. While I have never had the need for an abortion and never would have had one it is not my place to pass judgement on others. As it has been said:

JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED!

I am really sick and tired of the Right Wing Christians crying about their religious freedom when you all go around imposing your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

In the US, perhaps you don't know this, but we all have the right to freedom of religion which also means freedom from YOUR religion.

In this case Planned Parenthood was doing NOTHING illegal...it was a slander job by the Right Wing whose motto seems to be if you can't find anything then just make it up!

End of story.

[Guest]

The videos were not distorted in the editing. They shortened the videos, leaving some of the video out. That is not taking away from the truth. When you are testifying in court, and asked what happened, you don't tell the court that you got up in the morning and fixed coffee and toast, then took a shower and combed your hair, etc. You give them the facts. The videos were not a lie.

Yes, abortion is still legal. Murdering the unborn is still legal, and no one is saying different. Cutting the bodies up and selling the parts is ILLEGAL. There is the whole case. Selling the body parts. If you liberals want to argue that, then you are going to make an @ss of yourself. So, before you come back and keep with the broken record of trying to tie it into the same old "abortion is legal" remember that I stipulated that point. Selling body parts is ILLEGAL, period.

No matter how you want to justify murdering the innocent, don't even try to use the Bible to rationalize your actions. You have lost all credibility when you continuously state on here that the Bible is fiction and that God is a myth. If you liberals are atheists or agnostic, don't attempt to use Christianity as an argument.

Since liberals see themselves as the superior enlighten ones they do not recognize that taking a position against their position is not automatically hate.

Liberals see Christians as wanting to impose their religion on them when in truth it is the liberals who have used the courts system to impose their secular humanism religion on all of us.

And last of all, the court is NOT a religion and not your god. It makes decisions based on the evidence and argument presented. There is no right or wrong in the court, only the law and the argument to convince whether or not a law was violated.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Guest;1177568]The videos were not distorted in the editing. They shortened the videos, leaving some of the video out. That is not taking away from the truth. When you are testifying in court, and asked what happened, you don't tell the court that you got up in the morning and fixed coffee and toast, then took a shower and combed your hair, etc. You give them the facts. The videos were not a lie.

Yes, abortion is still legal. Murdering the unborn is still legal, and no one is saying different. Cutting the bodies up and selling the parts is ILLEGAL. There is the whole case. Selling the body parts. If you liberals want to argue that, then you are going to make an @ss of yourself. So, before you come back and keep with the broken record of trying to tie it into the same old "abortion is legal" remember that I stipulated that point. Selling body parts is ILLEGAL, period.

But they didn't sell body parts all investigations of Planned Parenthood, including the ones Republican ones have cleared them of that. I guess you messed that...So for your information:

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/)



No matter how you want to justify murdering the innocent, don't even try to use the Bible to rationalize your actions. You have lost all credibility when you continuously state on here that the Bible is fiction and that God is a myth. If you liberals are atheists or agnostic, don't attempt to use Christianity as an argument.
I don't murder anyone, in point of face I was a Medical Technologist in a hospital which provided abortions. My job required me to perform blood draws and tests on these patients. I was conflicted about this so I went to my priest to discuss what I should do. I have never stated that GOD was a myth or the Bible is fiction. You know nothing about me but you throw bunch of hate at me. So un Christian of you!!!

Since liberals see themselves as the superior enlighten ones they do not recognize that taking a position against their position is not automatically hate.

If I were a liberal this might apply to me but as I am not a liberal and certainly not a progressive it doesn't!

Liberals see Christians as wanting to impose their religion on them when in truth it is the liberals who have used the courts system to impose their secular humanism religion on all of us.

Now this is fun.... you vote to deny a portion of the public the right to marry, their constitutional right, on religious grounds you are imposing your religious beliefs on the rest of us. Christians have been doing that for centuries.

And last of all, the court is NOT a religion and not your god. It makes decisions based on the evidence and argument presented. There is no right or wrong in the court, only the law and the argument to convince whether or not a law was violated. Unsure of your point here but I think the Supreme Court has ruled on that in the case of abortion and gay marriage. So thanks for making my point

As I expected a neanderthal response...

[Guest]

I believe that abortions are legal in the United States and have been for many years. While I have never had the need for an abortion and never would have had one it is not my place to pass judgement on others. As it has been said:

JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED!

I am really sick and tired of the Right Wing Christians crying about their religious freedom when you all go around imposing your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

In the US, perhaps you don't know this, but we all have the right to freedom of religion which also means freedom from YOUR religion.

In this case Planned Parenthood was doing NOTHING illegal...it was a slander job by the Right Wing whose motto seems to be if you can't find anything then just make it up!

End of story.

Unfortunate that you chose to make the issue one that emphasizes ONE specific religion's approach to abortion....which is your choice, but should state the limitation of the position taken. Limitation?

Yes, contray to what some of you would like to have everybody subscribe to and support, there are many more across America who have a different outlook. Those outlooks are not constrained by partisan pandering or religious polarizing. They are simply based on the time tested concept of right and wrong.

Flaunting the fact that something is legal does not automatically make it right.
It happens to be a position that can be argued as it is here on this subject.

If one wants to argue legality, how about applying it to the edited videos. They were not illegal. They did not change the facts or the circumstances about what was being done by PP. They are exploiting the limits of the law to kill unborn children. They are purposefully managing pregnancies for gender and or specific part aquisition. The are birthing the fetus and then proceeding to butcher it in a manner consistent with obtaining the best possible parts with the least damage.

I suggest you make a case not using whether it is legal or not; and to look broader than one religion that happens to disagree with you completely.
And look across what most people think about the process PP uses to gain the parts they need. It is not right to be killing human beings to "harvest" parts like so much parsley. And I would suggest most people given the a complete picture of what is being done will, like the rest of us, be disgusted at what some would do while hiding behind the law which states it is "legal".

The majority of us do not support being legal makes it right.

So maybe a discussion can ensue without the usual name calling, partisan, religious, race compartmentalizing.
Have your opinion. Also allow there are others.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Guest;1177568]The videos were not distorted in the editing. They shortened the videos, leaving some of the video out. That is not taking away from the truth. When you are testifying in court, and asked what happened, you don't tell the court that you got up in the morning and fixed coffee and toast, then took a shower and combed your hair, etc. You give them the facts. The videos were not a lie.

Yes, abortion is still legal. Murdering the unborn is still legal, and no one is saying different. Cutting the bodies up and selling the parts is ILLEGAL. There is the whole case. Selling the body parts. If you liberals want to argue that, then you are going to make an @ss of yourself. So, before you come back and keep with the broken record of trying to tie it into the same old "abortion is legal" remember that I stipulated that point. Selling body parts is ILLEGAL, period.

But they didn't sell body parts all investigations of Planned Parenthood, including the ones Republican ones have cleared them of that. I guess you messed that...So for your information:

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/)



No matter how you want to justify murdering the innocent, don't even try to use the Bible to rationalize your actions. You have lost all credibility when you continuously state on here that the Bible is fiction and that God is a myth. If you liberals are atheists or agnostic, don't attempt to use Christianity as an argument.
I don't murder anyone, in point of face I was a Medical Technologist in a hospital which provided abortions. My job required me to perform blood draws and tests on these patients. I was conflicted about this so I went to my priest to discuss what I should do. I have never stated that GOD was a myth or the Bible is fiction. You know nothing about me but you throw bunch of hate at me. So un Christian of you!!!

Since liberals see themselves as the superior enlighten ones they do not recognize that taking a position against their position is not automatically hate.

If I were a liberal this might apply to me but as I am not a liberal and certainly not a progressive it doesn't!

Liberals see Christians as wanting to impose their religion on them when in truth it is the liberals who have used the courts system to impose their secular humanism religion on all of us.

Now this is fun.... you vote to deny a portion of the public the right to marry, their constitutional right, on religious grounds you are imposing your religious beliefs on the rest of us. Christians have been doing that for centuries.

And last of all, the court is NOT a religion and not your god. It makes decisions based on the evidence and argument presented. There is no right or wrong in the court, only the law and the argument to convince whether or not a law was violated. Unsure of your point here but I think the Supreme Court has ruled on that in the case of abortion and gay marriage. So thanks for making my point

As I expected a neanderthal response...

Typical libtard response, and just a radical opinion.

It is literally impossible to be a liberal today and also believe in the truth of the Bible, so please don't try to act differently. Abortion is against the Bible, whether legal or not. In this case, the gov deemed it legal. Selling body parts is still illegal.
YOu are the one that insists on bringing up Gay marriage, so I will assume that this issue is dear to your heart. I have not made ANY comment on that issue on here, but if you are agitating for an argument, you probably should take it to another thread. No one cares what your sexual perversion is, so why make it public?

I do find it amusing that you do not consider yourself a liberal, yet approve of abortion and approve of gay marriage. ALmost an oxymoron, in a humorous way. YOu must not understand the concept. But, that's OK, because you have already attempted to divert from the comment by injecting the gay marriage issue. Please try to stay on the theme of my comment if you plan to respond to it.

I am not attacking you, but in your confusion you probably construe anyone that has a differing view as being confrontational.

My point was simply that abortion is legal, but selling body parts is NOT. The videos were shortened but were not altered in a manner to suggest anything other than the truth. The videos do prove that a law was broken when body parts were being sold. If the court wants to throw them out because they are not complete, that is their prerogative. To charge these folks but not the ones selling the body parts, just proves that it is a liberal judge with a liberal agenda. But, that is today's theme, American liberalism. Hopefully, that will change in a year.

[Guest]

I believe that abortions are legal in the United States and have been for many years. While I have never had the need for an abortion and never would have had one it is not my place to pass judgement on others. As it has been said:

JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED!

I am really sick and tired of the Right Wing Christians crying about their religious freedom when you all go around imposing your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

In the US, perhaps you don't know this, but we all have the right to freedom of religion which also means freedom from YOUR religion.

In this case Planned Parenthood was doing NOTHING illegal...it was a slander job by the Right Wing whose motto seems to be if you can't find anything then just make it up!

End of story.

I am sick and tired of left wing atheists crying about the violation of their freedom when you go around imposing your atheist beliefs on the rest of us (especially the children). :sing::cryin2:

[Guest]

I am sick and tired of left wing atheists crying about the violation of their freedom when you go around imposing your atheist beliefs on the rest of us (especially the children). :sing::cryin2:

Jesus would be considered "left wing" by todays standards with all His charitable acts.

[Guest]

Unless the law changes, abortions are legal. Also, Planned Parenthood did NOT sell baby parts. The creators of the video that turned out to be a complete fabrication have been indicted. Enough said.

[Guest]

Unless the law changes, abortions are legal. Also, Planned Parenthood did NOT sell baby parts. The creators of the video that turned out to be a complete fabrication have been indicted. Enough said.

I don't know what bizarro world you live in, but PP admitted to selling baby parts. Those videos were not fabricated. But, you keep listening to your little high school political debate club blog and make believe that Chillary is going to be your president.

[Guest]

Jesus would be considered "left wing" by todays standards with all His charitable acts.

If you were half as smart as you believe you are, you would know that charity is almost a conservative franchise, compared to the stingy pocketbooks of the left. You will find that conservatives are very generous with their money, while the left is very generous with other folks money and very tight with charity of their own funds. And that, my friend has been proven over and over again. SO, you can make believe that you know Christ, but the fact is that you will grasp at any tool that you believe will further your agenda. Everyone knows that liberals and Christianity do not go together. Christians believe in the Bible as the word of GOD.

[Guest]

Unless the law changes, abortions are legal. Also, Planned Parenthood did NOT sell baby parts. The creators of the video that turned out to be a complete fabrication have been indicted. Enough said.

Are you on Planned Parenthood's :censored: payroll? A member of the family?
Or just oblivious and don't give a :censored: what you say as long as you are emphatic. And YOU know these things because???

The videos have been proven to NOT BE A FABRICATION. The content was edited in some cases for emphasis. The players were real, what they said and did was and still is real.

They were indicted for editing of the video NOT fabrication.

There was more evidence released today with an executive in the planning mode describing how to aquire the "cadeavors" (moron code for babies), divide them up into the appropriate parts, provide information for the parts to be put in their budget.....now why would there be a need for budgeting? Never mind we'll tell you....to make sure the money is available to purchase the butchered baby parts.

You are entitled to your opinions, but to put yourself on their target without first hand knowledge sorta defies an issue with the thinking.

[Guest]

Unfortunate that you chose to make the issue one that emphasizes ONE specific religion's approach to abortion....which is your choice, but should state the limitation of the position taken. Limitation?

Yes, contray to what some of you would like to have everybody subscribe to and support, there are many more across America who have a different outlook. Those outlooks are not constrained by partisan pandering or religious polarizing. They are simply based on the time tested concept of right and wrong.

Flaunting the fact that something is legal does not automatically make it right.
It happens to be a position that can be argued as it is here on this subject.

If one wants to argue legality, how about applying it to the edited videos. They were not illegal. They did not change the facts or the circumstances about what was being done by PP. They are exploiting the limits of the law to kill unborn children. They are purposefully managing pregnancies for gender and or specific part aquisition. The are birthing the fetus and then proceeding to butcher it in a manner consistent with obtaining the best possible parts with the least damage.

I suggest you make a case not using whether it is legal or not; and to look broader than one religion that happens to disagree with you completely.
And look across what most people think about the process PP uses to gain the parts they need. It is not right to be killing human beings to "harvest" parts like so much parsley. And I would suggest most people given the a complete picture of what is being done will, like the rest of us, be disgusted at what some would do while hiding behind the law which states it is "legal".

The majority of us do not support being legal makes it right.

So maybe a discussion can ensue without the usual name calling, partisan, religious, race compartmentalizing.
Have your opinion. Also allow there are others.

Once again as a women I have never had nor will I ever have an abortion!!! I am so fortunate to have avoided this problem.

Correct me if I am wrong but your statement:
The majority of us do not support being legal makes it right.

Indicates you don't have a basic understand on how the Constitution of the United States works. Please show me where in this hallowed document where it states "Majority Rules". That is why the Supreme Court exists and in the case of abortion they ruled that a women had the right to choose. Not the majority but that single woman could choose.

I cannot fathom why the right wing seems to hate women so much. Why in the world would you think it was right to force a women to give birth to a child of rape? This stance has cost you more than one election...think Indiana and Missouri. I was in in Indy when the Republican senate candidate made that completely ridiculous statement I watched it live. He lost. So your majority is maybe not a large as you think

I cannot understand the right wings opposition to birth control! If you don't want abortions then provide ways for women to get affordable birth control. Cover the morning after pill....make it an OTC medication.

As for PP, they have done nothing wrong, even in Texas they couldn't find PP at fault for "selling baby parts" other than this highly edited video what other proof can you show to prove PP is doing this? I will certainly await your answer.

I have endeavored to post this a calm fashion without any heated rhetoric.

[Guest]

Are you on Planned Parenthood's :censored: payroll? A member of the family?
Or just oblivious and don't give a :censored: what you say as long as you are emphatic. And YOU know these things because???

The videos have been proven to NOT BE A FABRICATION. The content was edited in some cases for emphasis. The players were real, what they said and did was and still is real.

They were indicted for editing of the video NOT fabrication.

There was more evidence released today with an executive in the planning mode describing how to aquire the "cadeavors" (moron code for babies), divide them up into the appropriate parts, provide information for the parts to be put in their budget.....now why would there be a need for budgeting? Never mind we'll tell you....to make sure the money is available to purchase the butchered baby parts.

You are entitled to your opinions, but to put yourself on their target without first hand knowledge sorta defies an issue with the thinking.

Once again you can only spew the right wings misinformation. So post a link to any report from an investigation which found PP actually selling baby parts for profit.

And one more thing you do understand that one of your Republican Presidential candidate's used fetal tissue aka body parts in his research.....

These tissues are an important part of medical research for finding a cure.

I await your proof!

[Guest]

Are you on Planned Parenthood's :censored: payroll? Nope just a retired healthcare professional. A member of the family? Nope

Or just oblivious and don't give a :censored: what you say as long as you are emphatic. And YOU know these things because??? I read and watch other sources than the right wing spin machine

Planned Parenthood cleared, but 2 indicted over videos - Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Harris-grand-jury-indicts-pair-behind-Planned-6782865.php)

Grand jury in Texas indicts activists behind Planned Parenthood videos | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/25/grand-jury-indicts-leader-behind-planned-parenthood-videos.html)

There was more evidence released today with an executive in the planning mode describing how to aquire the "cadeavors" (moron code for babies), divide them up into the appropriate parts, provide information for the parts to be put in their budget.....now why would there be a need for budgeting? Never mind we'll tell you....to make sure the money is available to purchase the butchered baby parts.

Provide the link....not one of your right wing spin machine they are not to be trusted. You won't believe a left leaning source so I used FOX....

I await your proof!!!

[Guest]

Once again you can only spew the right wings misinformation. So post a link to any report from an investigation which found PP actually selling baby parts for profit.

And one more thing you do understand that one of your Republican Presidential candidate's used fetal tissue aka body parts in his research.....

These tissues are an important part of medical research for finding a cure.

I await your proof!

Your credibilty is out the window with the name calling.

And making the issue partisan is further degradation.

[Guest]

Once again you can only spew the right wings misinformation. So post a link to any report from an investigation which found PP actually selling baby parts for profit.

And one more thing you do understand that one of your Republican Presidential candidate's used fetal tissue aka body parts in his research.....

These tissues are an important part of medical research for finding a cure.

I await your proof!

My radical partisan in play beeper just went off...do not engage!

[Guest]

Once again as a women I have never had nor will I ever have an abortion!!! I am so fortunate to have avoided this problem.

Correct me if I am wrong but your statement:
The majority of us do not support being legal makes it right.

Indicates you don't have a basic understand on how the Constitution of the United States works. Please show me where in this hallowed document where it states "Majority Rules". That is why the Supreme Court exists and in the case of abortion they ruled that a women had the right to choose. Not the majority but that single woman could choose.

I cannot fathom why the right wing seems to hate women so much. Why in the world would you think it was right to force a women to give birth to a child of rape? This stance has cost you more than one election...think Indiana and Missouri. I was in in Indy when the Republican senate candidate made that completely ridiculous statement I watched it live. He lost. So your majority is maybe not a large as you think

I cannot understand the right wings opposition to birth control! If you don't want abortions then provide ways for women to get affordable birth control. Cover the morning after pill....make it an OTC medication.

As for PP, they have done nothing wrong, even in Texas they couldn't find PP at fault for "selling baby parts" other than this highly edited video what other proof can you show to prove PP is doing this? I will certainly await your answer.

I have endeavored to post this a calm fashion without any heated rhetoric.

We don't hate women, but we do respect and love the innocent. Why does the left HATE innocent babies? Or, are you just too lazy to purchase your own, cheap birth control?

So, why do you hate children?

[Guest]

We don't hate women, but we do respect and love the innocent. Why does the left HATE innocent babies? Or, are you just too lazy to purchase your own, cheap birth control?

So, why do you hate children?

Because they are intellectually ONLY involved. If they had any investment either personal, moral or just plain empathy for the innocents being slaughtered their view migt be different.

If they were to witness a living birthed fetus laying the the table being killed and then disected MAYBE they would have a different view.

I find it amazing what some will support just because their party directs them to do so. Condone killing of innocents. Elect unqualified, untrustworthy, liars for POTUS. Etc.

[Guest]

I don't know what bizarro world you live in, but PP admitted to selling baby parts. Those videos were not fabricated. But, you keep listening to your little high school political debate club blog and make believe that Chillary is going to be your president.

Not sure what the Presidential race has to do with this string....

Thinking your off topic!

[Guest]

Your credibilty is out the window with the name calling.

And making the issue partisan is further degradation.

I take it you have no proof because it doesn't exist!

There was no name calling in that post.....

[Guest]

Not sure what the Presidential race has to do with this string....

Thinking your off topic!

And that's all you got from the post. The word is "you're" or "you are."

[Guest]

We don't hate women, but we do respect and love the innocent. Why does the left HATE innocent babies? Or, are you just too lazy to purchase your own, cheap birth control?

So, why do you hate children?

I don't hate children.... I don't hate innocent babies not sure why you would think that.

And this statement is just priceless and offensive. I have never used birth control pills.

Why does the right wing support a ban on abortion even in the case of rape or incest. If you don't hate why would you make a women who was raped or a victim of incest carry the baby to term? Why would the Kansas government impose a dress code on only the women in government. I could go on but all that has to be said here is to look at your statement...

Thinking I am a woman you said:

Or, are you just too lazy to purchase your own, cheap birth control?

I rest my case!

[Guest]

Still waiting for proof that PP sold baby parts....

[Guest]

We don't hate women, but we do respect and love the innocent. Why does the left HATE innocent babies? Or, are you just too lazy to purchase your own, cheap birth control?

So, why do you hate children?

There are a lot of children waiting to be adopted, how many have you adopted.

[Guest]

And that's all you got from the post. The word is "you're" or "you are."

And now a spell check.....

[Guest]

Because they are intellectually ONLY involved. If they had any investment either personal, moral or just plain empathy for the innocents being slaughtered their view migt be different.

If they were to witness a living birthed fetus laying the the table being killed and then disected MAYBE they would have a different view.

I find it amazing what some will support just because their party directs them to do so. Condone killing of innocents. Elect unqualified, untrustworthy, liars for POTUS. Etc.

I am NOT directed by a party..... I am directed by my history, in my earlier days I wore a hanger charm as a symbol for what was happening to women. Making abortion illegal again will not stop them being done, but many more women will die in the process.

Why do you so devalue a women's life so much as to force her to carry a child as a result of rape or incest? Why do you want to ban the morning after pill?

You can call it what you want but as I have said before I have never had an abortion if I had been faced with this choice I don't believe I could have had an abortion. But that would be my CHOICE! We are different only because you want impose your religion/morals on the rest of us.

Still waiting for the proof PP has been selling baby parts.

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I don't hate children.... I don't hate innocent babies not sure why you would think that.

And this statement is just priceless and offensive. I have never used birth control pills.

Why does the right wing support a ban on abortion even in the case of rape or incest. If you don't hate why would you make a women who was raped or a victim of incest carry the baby to term? Why would the Kansas government impose a dress code on only the women in government. I could go on but all that has to be said here is to look at your statement...

Thinking I am a woman you said:

Or, are you just too lazy to purchase your own, cheap birth control?

I rest my case!

Your response is ludicrous to put it nicely.

First, less than 1% of abortions are due to rape or incest. So, as usual you liberals have to use the extreme. I said nothing at all in regards to abortion, other than that it was legal. You made the statement to bait a response.

Yes, I did think you were a woman, since you said you were. Or don't you even know what you wrote?

You said the "right" hated women. I said the left hated children. Big difference but that particular response was warranted considering NO WOMEN are killed by the right, yet the left kills thousands of babier a year with abortion. But, it is legal murder, so you are the ones that have to live with it.

The thread is in relation to parting out babies for profit and the whistle blowers being charged. Yes, they were charged because they had fake ID's. They were not charged with providing the videos because that happens all the time by other news agencies.

So, get indignant if you wish. If you are going to accuse the right of hating women because we wish to protect their children, then you have a warped sense of morality. There is much more evidence of a war on children by the left than war on women by the right.

By the way, if a woman can't afford birth control, as cheap as it is, then why doesn't she make her partner provide it? Duhhhh!!! No, you wish the taxpayer to provide/pay for sexual recreation, right?

Take your indignant attitude somewhere that has someone that can relate to you.....such as Huffington Post and their libtard forum. Like the saying goes, "if you can't take the heat......"

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I am NOT directed by a party..... I am directed by my history, in my earlier days I wore a hanger charm as a symbol for what was happening to women. Making abortion illegal again will not stop them being done, but many more women will die in the process.

Why do you so devalue a women's life so much as to force her to carry a child as a result of rape or incest? Why do you want to ban the morning after pill?

You can call it what you want but as I have said before I have never had an abortion if I had been faced with this choice I don't believe I could have had an abortion. But that would be my CHOICE! We are different only because you want impose your religion/morals on the rest of us.

Still waiting for the proof PP has been selling baby parts.


If you haven't seen the proof yet, you are either blind or just not able to keep up with current events. The proof is all over the place, on the internet and was all over the news. Are you playing at being ignorant, or are you really that naive? Thank goodness all Democrats are liberals. I have heard some Democrats that are so angry over the selling of human parts that they are likely not to even vote this time. Yes, they are blaming liberals, but they are blaming them for not acknowledging the criminal act and on top of that, justifying it. There are a lot of Democrats angry so it is not a partisan issue.

[Guest]

Are we to conclude that as long as PP is not selling the killed baby parts, what they do is OK?

[Guest]

If you haven't seen the proof yet, you are either blind or just not able to keep up with current events. The proof is all over the place, on the internet and was all over the news. Are you playing at being ignorant, or are you really that naive? Thank goodness all Democrats are liberals. I have heard some Democrats that are so angry over the selling of human parts that they are likely not to even vote this time. Yes, they are blaming liberals, but they are blaming them for not acknowledging the criminal act and on top of that, justifying it. There are a lot of Democrats angry so it is not a partisan issue.

The videos were highly edited, the 2 people who did the video's have been indicted and PP has been cleared of any wrong doing.

No criminal act ........get over it!

[Guest]

Are we to conclude that as long as PP is not selling the killed baby parts, what they do is OK?

Health screening, birth control and family planning services all legal in the United States.

So yes what they do is OK!

[Guest]

And that's all you got from the post. The word is "you're" or "you are."

Most likely an autocorrect... perhaps you haven't heard of those.

[Guest]

Dear Guests: The abortion issue is too emotional for some folks to address rationally.. Roe v Wade may be the law but the plaintiff in that case recanted following the decision and has been a pro life advocate following that decision she termed wrong.

Planned Parenthood's claim is that they serve to provide health care for women. However the nation is replete with such services. the fact is that Planned Parenthood's primary function is abortion services. The fact is that the video's seen around the world clearly verified that Planned Parenthood was selling baby parts on the market.

The fact is that a reason this nation is unable to resume its productive past is because the birth rate is too low due to an aging population (witness China's reversal of its one child policy).

BUT the issue of paramount importance here is that an activist progressive district attorney wanted payback because the video outed progressive sacrosant organization for what it really is. It is said a district attorney can indict a ham sandwich in a Grand Jury because the charged have no one pleading their case. The Harris County district attorney pushed for a twofer 1) indicted the videographers and 2) get Planned Parenthood off the hook.

Those who cheer this result might want to consider that what this district attorney did is what dictators do when some dares speak out against them
The progressive collective work in unison, and its weaken our freedoms. so its not surprising that the progressives are quickly becoming socialist. Perhaps you will be the next one they come after.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

The videos were highly edited, the 2 people who did the video's have been indicted and PP has been cleared of any wrong doing.

No criminal act ........get over it!

How convenient to hide behind the law.
The videos were highly eidited. OK you win. Edited to show the pertinent segments....NOT FABRICATED OR EDITED FOR CONTENT!!!!
Just a minor point to conveniently lose track of to make a point.

No you use the wrong description...you cannot state they are cleared for any WRONGDOING. Yes they have been cleared from doing anything illegal. That does not make what they do is RIGHTDOING.

So now it has been confirmed by a post above that as long as it is not illgal they are OK with what PP is doing.

You are OK to take a living fetus on the table in front of the doctor....A LIVING FETUS.....kill it and butcher it for it's parts.

Those who approve of such barbarism will be reconciled one day.

[Guest]

The videos were highly edited, the 2 people who did the video's have been indicted and PP has been cleared of any wrong doing.

No criminal act ........get over it!

Yes, they were indicted for having false ID's. How much would you like to bet that these 2 people see no time in jail?

PP has NOT been cleared of wrong doing. They haven't been indicted yet. OJ Simpson was also found not guilty in court, but he was still a murderer.

If you wish to defend dividing up bodies for parts, that's your prerogative. But, to deny what is there, is just stupid. At least there are a few decent Democrats left that are against this immorality. Obviously, you are not one of them. But, radical ideology dictates that nothing that might be construed related to party is wrong.

Parts of the videos were cut out, but the pertinent parts that showed the violation are still in the video. That stuff wasn't made up.

[Guest]

How convenient to hide behind the law.
The videos were highly eidited. OK you win. Edited to show the pertinent segments....NOT FABRICATED OR EDITED FOR CONTENT!!!!
Just a minor point to conveniently lose track of to make a point.

No you use the wrong description...you cannot state they are cleared for any WRONGDOING. Yes they have been cleared from doing anything illegal. That does not make what they do is RIGHTDOING.

So now it has been confirmed by a post above that as long as it is not illgal they are OK with what PP is doing.

You are OK to take a living fetus on the table in front of the doctor....A LIVING FETUS.....kill it and butcher it for it's parts.

Those who approve of such barbarism will be reconciled one day.

I believe I will be judged on my actions:

1. Never had an abortion
2. Never visited PP
3. Never donated to PP
4. Never attended a Pro-Choice rally

All of your comments are based on your religious beliefs which, here in the US, you are entitled to on the Constitution. But we who do not hold the same religious beliefs have the same protections i.e. freedom from YOUR religion.

We are not going to get anywhere so I'm done for the night!

[Guest]

Ok, Ok, I think that there is no use on continuing to beat the dead baby.

[Guest]

I believe I will be judged on my actions:

1. Never had an abortion
2. Never visited PP
3. Never donated to PP
4. Never attended a Pro-Choice rally

All of your comments are based on your religious beliefs which, here in the US, you are entitled to on the Constitution. But we who do not hold the same religious beliefs have the same protections i.e. freedom from YOUR religion.

We are not going to get anywhere so I'm done for the night!

My comments had and have nothing to do with religious beliefs.
They have all to do with right and wrong, which is being conveniently avoided.

Nice story about all the "nevers" presented above. None of which address the issue presented .....even if it is legal and you never did all the stuff above....is it OK with you to kill living fetus and harvest their parts??

This will be here in the morning!

[Guest]

Are we to conclude that as long as PP is not selling the killed baby parts, what they do is OK?

There is a difference between legal and OK. Abortions are legal, but not OK. Selling body parts are not only wrong but illegal.

[Guest]

I believe I will be judged on my actions:

1. Never had an abortion
2. Never visited PP
3. Never donated to PP
4. Never attended a Pro-Choice rally

All of your comments are based on your religious beliefs which, here in the US, you are entitled to on the Constitution. But we who do not hold the same religious beliefs have the same protections i.e. freedom from YOUR religion.

We are not going to get anywhere so I'm done for the night!

If you believe that you will be judged, but you are not religious, how are you going to be judged?

[Guest]

I believe I will be judged on my actions:

1. Never had an abortion
2. Never visited PP
3. Never donated to PP
4. Never attended a Pro-Choice rally

All of your comments are based on your religious beliefs which, here in the US, you are entitled to on the Constitution. But we who do not hold the same religious beliefs have the same protections i.e. freedom from YOUR religion.

We are not going to get anywhere so I'm done for the night!

Your convenient assumptions regarding commentary "based on your religious beliefs" is 100% not true.

How you conveniently reword the intent of the constitution by stating " freedom from YOUR religion".

Let us use your style of posting to state your position?
As long as it is legal...... it is OK to slaughter born and unborn children for the purpose of harvest body parts.

The position that under the guise of allowing those raped or incest impregnated, women also can have an abortion if the sex of the fetus is not the one they preferred. Or allow abortion because of an unwanted pregnancy (birth control). Just to name a couple.

Supporters of across the board abortion entitlement either have absolutely no idea of what is happening within the so called legal rights or conveniently ignore the reality or just plain have no idea what the hell they are talking about (for partisan sake).

All the supporters do (as directed by the party) is wave the right to abortion flag without understanding what PP and the so called legality is really doing.

Another belief from history that involved killing of human beings; that of the Nazi's when they decided life would be better without a jewish presence.

The so called legal abortion and the elimination of the jewish race both involved and involve the extermination of a human being.

Some of us have horrible memories of the piles of bodies awaiting burial when they were discovered at Aushwitz.....we would be frozen in horror or worse if we were able to see the pile of human waste being disposed of by PP.

It is not OK, regardless of any religion or no religion, or in the current PP case, to slaughter a human being.

We are all entitled to our belief......some of us do not and will not accept the prmise of the slaughtering of innocents for profit or convenience.....even if it is erroneously deemed to be legal.

[Guest]

So, what I have gathered from the liberal or possibly two on here is:

Abortion is legal, therefore "Ok."

Baby body parts are used to prolong life (ha,ha) therefore having an abortion and selling the body parts is providing a great service to humanity. So, selling body parts should be embraced and these people should be celebrated as heroes for their willing/unwitting sacrifice.

Christians are bad because they believe in the sanctity of life over the convenience of birth control by abortion.
Conservatives hate women because they won't pay for their birth control.
Conservatives hate women because they do not think that taxpayers should pay for abortion.
Christians are hateful because they do not believe in killing unborn babies.

That about sums it up.

[Guest]

So, what I have gathered from the liberal or possibly two on here is:

Abortion is legal, therefore "Ok."

Baby body parts are used to prolong life (ha,ha) therefore having an abortion and selling the body parts is providing a great service to humanity. So, selling body parts should be embraced and these people should be celebrated as heroes for their willing/unwitting sacrifice.

Christians are bad because they believe in the sanctity of life over the convenience of birth control by abortion.
Conservatives hate women because they won't pay for their birth control.
Conservatives hate women because they do not think that taxpayers should pay for abortion.
Christians are hateful because they do not believe in killing unborn babies.

That about sums it up.

Even I hate to say this but some posts just suggest it is a fair observation:

If the liberal happens to be female they feel they have a louder voice or special position in the matter!

[Guest]

And I am sure I will be called sexist (which is not the intent at all) for referring to the female position.

By the way why is it not sexist when they do?

[Guest]

And I am sure I will be called sexist (which is not the intent at all) for referring to the female position.

By the way why is it not sexist when they do?

Just like you can't be a racist if you are black.

[Guest]

My comments had and have nothing to do with religious beliefs.
They have all to do with right and wrong, which is being conveniently avoided.

Nice story about all the "nevers" presented above. None of which address the issue presented .....even if it is legal and you never did all the stuff above....is it OK with you to kill living fetus and harvest their parts??

This will be here in the morning!


They have all to do with right and wrong, which is being conveniently avoided.
Right and wrong as you see it so, you would not have an abortion should you need one. Right and wrong as I see it as well as I have stated I have never had an abortion and can in no way ever see myself making that choice. Where we part ways is you want to impose your definition of right and wrong on others. I do not!

As abortion is legal in the United States....as for the donation of that tissue for medical research, no I am not against that. Fetal tissue research has led to some great discoveries.

Top Discoveries from Fetal Tissue Research - US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/top-discoveries-from-fetal-tissue-research)

[Guest]

So, what I have gathered from the liberal or possibly two on here is:

Abortion is legal, therefore "Ok."

Baby body parts are used to prolong life (ha,ha) therefore having an abortion and selling the body parts is providing a great service to humanity. So, selling body parts should be embraced and these people should be celebrated as heroes for their willing/unwitting sacrifice.

Christians are bad because they believe in the sanctity of life over the convenience of birth control by abortion.
Conservatives hate women because they won't pay for their birth control.

You don't pay for their birth control anymore than we pay for your Viagra.
Conservatives hate women because they do not think that taxpayers should pay for abortion.
You don't pay for any abortions and haven't for quite a while.
Christians are hateful because they do not believe in killing unborn babies.

Its quite a bit more than that and you know it

That about sums it up.

Yep that is what you would think because you will always believe you aka Christians, are being persecuted.

Your beliefs have been the dominated American culture since the 50's and I as a Catholic was visited with ridicule as a child by Christian children. I heard what Christians said when JFK ran and I was told I could not play with a kid by their church going Baptist parents .

As I said we will never come to a consensus a this subject....

[Guest]

Many major advances to science have been made by fetal tissue research. Even Ben Carson has done fetal tissue research.

Get out of your 1950's way of thinking when abortions were illegal in the USA and those getting them were at the mercy of unsanitary conditions often done in motel rooms.

[Guest]

They have all to do with right and wrong, which is being conveniently avoided.
Right and wrong as you see it so, you would not have an abortion should you need one. Right and wrong as I see it as well as I have stated I have never had an abortion and can in no way ever see myself making that choice. Where we part ways is you want to impose your definition of right and wrong on others. I do not!

As abortion is legal in the United States....as for the donation of that tissue for medical research, no I am not against that. Fetal tissue research has led to some great discoveries.

Top Discoveries from Fetal Tissue Research - US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/top-discoveries-from-fetal-tissue-research)

No, the definition of right and wrong is the same, regardless of how you decide to rationalize your opinion. Just because you don't contribute to a murder, if you stand by and watch it happen you are as guilty. Right and wrong defined by statute is often different than right and wrong by moral definition.

You rationalize your morality by saying you have not practiced it. Yet, you then turn around and state that you believe that even though you haven't done it, you have no problem with others doing it. If that is your act of justifying your morality, then so be it.

[Guest]

No, the definition of right and wrong is the same, regardless of how you decide to rationalize your opinion. Just because you don't contribute to a murder, if you stand by and watch it happen you are as guilty. Right and wrong defined by statute is often different than right and wrong by moral definition.

You rationalize your morality by saying you have not practiced it. Yet, you then turn around and state that you believe that even though you haven't done it, you have no problem with others doing it. If that is your act of justifying your morality, then so be it.

Keep twisting things till you make it fit!

[Guest]

All I keep hearing is the same tune while not addressing the basic question.

One more time.
Granting abortions for rape or incest. Is it OK to have abortions if not the correct gender; for birth control?
Is it OK to be killing a birthed live fetus on the table for parting out the baby; throwing what is not needed in the trash??? Is that OK?

[Guest]

All I keep hearing is the same tune while not addressing the basic question.

One more time.
Granting abortions for rape or incest. Is it OK to have abortions if not the correct gender; for birth control?
Is it OK to be killing a birthed live fetus on the table for parting out the baby; throwing what is not needed in the trash??? Is that OK?

The actual grotesque murderous process that includes the killing, the slaughtering and trashing of a living being is not discussed openly. There are polite names to make sure it does not offend anybody doing the murdering, processing the murdered beings parts and throwing in the trash the part of that living being that is deemed not needed.

Like the news of the past showing the huge piles of bodies found in post war Germany there needs to be a video or pictures of the live kicking fetus just before it is killed; then an after slaughter one showing the parts being saved for shipment; and the final one of the rest of the killed bodies in the trash.
Maybe then the reality of what is truly being done.....will be acknowledged.

For the abortion radicals it won't matter.

[Guest]

All I keep hearing is the same tune while not addressing the basic question.

One more time.
Granting abortions for rape or incest. Is it OK to have abortions if not the correct gender; for birth control?
Is it OK to be killing a birthed live fetus on the table for parting out the baby; throwing what is not needed in the trash??? Is that OK?

I really don't know what else to say...we are NOT going to agree.

But I will answer this:

I believe women or girls should not be forced to continue the pregnancy. Especially in the case of the rape or incest of a child. My position on abortions for gender selection or birth control pushes the moral limit for me!

As a medical professional at an abortion which produced a live child my morals would not allow the killing of that child. Which should answer your last question.

[Guest]

I really don't know what else to say...we are NOT going to agree.

But I will answer this:

I believe women or girls should not be forced to continue the pregnancy. Especially in the case of the rape or incest of a child. My position on abortions for gender selection or birth control pushes the moral limit for me!

As a medical professional at an abortion which produced a live child my morals would not allow the killing of that child. Which should answer your last question.

Thank you.

[Guest]

Ok, Ok, I think that there is no use on continuing to beat the dead baby.

Dear Guest: Your statement speaks to your mind and heart

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

The following is provided to help many who do not know any real numbers about abortions:

Abortion Statistics (http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/rebekah8370/)

If one googles rape and incest abortions there are many pages of links that all present most of the same information. I chose this one because it minimizes rhetoric and focuses on statistical presence.

So much for all the ballyhoo about rape and incest at 1%.
Mostly used for birth control!!!!
Are the numbers being killed every second, hour per day not staggering?

Is it not clear at this point while everybody who supports their position talks about the one percent, very little is said about why most are performed. And the practice is defended as if rape and incest were the drivers of abortion....which they are not.

It is by virtue of the magnitude of the numbers that abortion is a business. A business supported by government funds. A business that thrives on the continued killing of innocents.....for all the wrong reasons.

Wake up America......another scam in the name of doing good!

[Guest]

The following is provided to help many who do not know any real numbers about abortions:

Abortion Statistics (http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/rebekah8370/)

If one googles rape and incest abortions there are many pages of links that all present most of the same information. I chose this one because it minimizes rhetoric and focuses on statistical presence.

So much for all the ballyhoo about rape and incest at 1%.
Mostly used for birth control!!!!
Are the numbers being killed every second, hour per day not staggering?

Is it not clear at this point while everybody who supports their position talks about the one percent, very little is said about why most are performed. And the practice is defended as if rape and incest were the drivers of abortion....which they are not.

It is by virtue of the magnitude of the numbers that abortion is a business. A business supported by government funds. A business that thrives on the continued killing of innocents.....for all the wrong reasons.

Wake up America......another scam in the name of doing good!

I forgot the PS....Planned Parenthood is the largest provider of abortions in America....now isn't that a coincidence?

[Guest]

The following is provided to help many who do not know any real numbers about abortions:

Abortion Statistics (http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/rebekah8370/)

If one googles rape and incest abortions there are many pages of links that all present most of the same information. I chose this one because it minimizes rhetoric and focuses on statistical presence.

So much for all the ballyhoo about rape and incest at 1%.
Mostly used for birth control!!!!
Are the numbers being killed every second, hour per day not staggering?

Is it not clear at this point while everybody who supports their position talks about the one percent, very little is said about why most are performed. And the practice is defended as if rape and incest were the drivers of abortion....which they are not.

It is by virtue of the magnitude of the numbers that abortion is a business. A business supported by government funds. A business that thrives on the continued killing of innocents.....for all the wrong reasons.

Wake up America......another scam in the name of doing good!

GOVERNMENT FUNDS ARE NOT USED FOR ABORTIONS!!! EVERY BILL PASSED BY CONGRESS INCLUDES A PARAGRAPH BANNING THE USE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS FOR ABORTION.

So you are ok with forcing women to carry a rapist's child to full term? Seriously?

Abortion is legal in the US and if you don't like it don't have one!!!

[Guest]

GOVERNMENT FUNDS ARE NOT USED FOR ABORTIONS!!! EVERY BILL PASSED BY CONGRESS INCLUDES A PARAGRAPH BANNING THE USE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS FOR ABORTION.

So you are ok with forcing women to carry a rapist's child to full term? Seriously?

Abortion is legal in the US and if you don't like it don't have one!!!

Does the government fund Planned Parenthood? Must be a yes as so many in congress in recent weeks were moving to cut their funding.

How one concludes providing the statistic = OK to carry a rapists child is a quite puzzling. Once again shifting the focus from the other 99% and making a case (erroneously) for the 1%.

As for not having an abortion you have made a significant error in gender assignation.

I suppose we could each be addressing the wrong post.

I will sleep easier thinking that may be the case.

[Guest]

Does the government fund Planned Parenthood? Must be a yes as so many in congress in recent weeks were moving to cut their funding.

Are the funds used for abortions....NO!

How one concludes providing the statistic = OK to carry a rapists child is a quite puzzling. Once again shifting the focus from the other 99% and making a case (erroneously) for the 1%. You are just deflecting do you support abortions for women who are raped or a victim of incest?

As for not having an abortion you have made a significant error in gender assignation. ????

I suppose we could each be addressing the wrong post.

I will sleep easier thinking that may be the case.[/QUOTE]

[Guest]

Yes, the government IS funding abortions. If they are funding PP, then they are funding abortions. There is no way to prove that the money that the gov pays PP is used for anything without including abortion. Are the doctors that are performing abortions getting paid through a separate fund? The nurses?

Since you are so stuck on using rape and incest victims as an example of how important it is to fund PP, then you should also understand that those account for about 1% of the total abortions performed.

I wonder what you have against babies that are produced through no fault of their own. Do you feel that babies due to rape or incest are inferior to other babies produced? Do you feel the same way about BLACK babies? Because, as you know there were more black babies aborted last year than were born. And you know the reason that the founder of PP had when PP was originated? It was genocide of blacks. SO, you are backing a very radical organization, similar to the KKK.

So, when you ask us if we believe that rape victims and incest related pregnancies should be brought full term, I answer with "who are you to make that decision for a new life?" That baby could be adopted if not wanted by the mother.

Since Obama's mother was not legally married to his father (Sr was still married in Africa) then Barrack is considered a b@stard child. What if his mother had decided to go the easy way and had aborted him? Personally, I can see the positive of that idea, but that is my personal opinion.

[Guest]

Does the government fund Planned Parenthood? Must be a yes as so many in congress in recent weeks were moving to cut their funding.

How one concludes providing the statistic = OK to carry a rapists child is a quite puzzling. Once again shifting the focus from the other 99% and making a case (erroneously) for the 1%.

As for not having an abortion you have made a significant error in gender assignation.

I suppose we could each be addressing the wrong post.

I will sleep easier thinking that may be the case.

Are you mostly likely a man? Yes!!!

[Guest]

Yes, the government IS funding abortions. If they are funding PP, then they are funding abortions. There is no way to prove that the money that the gov pays PP is used for anything without including abortion. Are the doctors that are performing abortions getting paid through a separate fund? The nurses?

Since you are so stuck on using rape and incest victims as an example of how important it is to fund PP, then you should also understand that those account for about 1% of the total abortions performed.

I wonder what you have against babies that are produced through no fault of their own. Do you feel that babies due to rape or incest are inferior to other babies produced? Do you feel the same way about BLACK babies? Because, as you know there were more black babies aborted last year than were born. And you know the reason that the founder of PP had when PP was originated? It was genocide of blacks. SO, you are backing a very radical organization, similar to the KKK.

So, when you ask us if we believe that rape victims and incest related pregnancies should be brought full term, I answer with "who are you to make that decision for a new life?" That baby could be adopted if not wanted by the mother.

Since Obama's mother was not legally married to his father (Sr was still married in Africa) then Barrack is considered a b@stard child. What if his mother had decided to go the easy way and had aborted him? Personally, I can see the positive of that idea, but that is my personal opinion.

I have answered more than enough questions about my position on this issue. Now you all are just being silly....

There are 1.2 million abortion performed each year which means that 12,000 women would have to bring the child of a rapist to term...if even one woman has to do this it is to much.....

[Guest]

Here are the facts about PP and their funding......

I suggest you look up the Hyde amendment which has been in place since 1976, it was named after Henry Hyde a Republican from the state of IL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/04/how-planned-parenthood-actually-uses-its-federal-funding/

Now STOP LYING!!!

The government is NOT funding abortions.

[Guest]

GOVERNMENT FUNDS ARE NOT USED FOR ABORTIONS!!! EVERY BILL PASSED BY CONGRESS INCLUDES A PARAGRAPH BANNING THE USE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS FOR ABORTION.

So you are ok with forcing women to carry a rapist's child to full term? Seriously?

Abortion is legal in the US and if you don't like it don't have one!!!

Are you that stupid to think that government funds given to PP are not used for abortions? Really??? How ignorant.

And when you say forcing, what do you mean? Did I get that woman pregnant? Do you hate children that much that you would hold how it was conceived against it? That's pretty mean, isn't it? If someone doesn't like you, does that mean that they have the right to murder you?

Yes, abortion in the U.S. is legal....right now. But, please feel free to attempt to justify it to yourself by saying it is legal. It was once legal to whip a slave, rage them if you own them, etc. But, at least that slave was still alive. You want to deny a child's right to even live. That is pretty callous, and definitely not Christian. Although, liberals aren't Christians anyway, so I shouldn't eve bring that up.

But, do you liberals insist on diverting every post on here, in every thread? The post subject was regarding the selling of body parts. Selling body parts are illegal. Do you want to argue that fact, or are you going to say that even though it is illegal, it's the right thing to do. I want to see you pair that up with your stance on abortion. Abortion is legal, selling body parts is not. Abortion is immoral, and selling body parts is not only immoral but illegal.

Anyway, have a great day/evening/night. Hope your conscience will allow you to sleep. If you do believe in God, I wonder how you will explain your stance to HIM. Not that it is any of my business, but it is an interesting image.

[Guest]

I have answered more than enough questions about my position on this issue. Now you all are just being silly....

There are 1.2 million abortion performed each year which means that 12,000 women would have to bring the child of a rapist to term...if even one woman has to do this it is to much.....

So far I haven't heard much against the rape or incest victims.
So, again, let's set the favorite one that get all the discussion here and everywhere the discussion is ensued....aside.

Now let's see if we can have a reasonable discussion about the other 99% or 1,238,000 abortions that are the crux of the issue.

For the sake of argument and to cover under estimating and any other excuse let's make the given a full 5%. That leaves 1,187,500 unwarranted abortions!!!!

I do not know why this is such a struggle to get across.
We know the partisan talking points limit the capability of a real honest discussion.

1,187,500 needless killings of babies!!!!!!

[Guest]

Are you that stupid to think that government funds given to PP are not used for abortions? Really??? How ignorant.

And when you say forcing, what do you mean? Did I get that woman pregnant? Do you hate children that much that you would hold how it was conceived against it? That's pretty mean, isn't it? If someone doesn't like you, does that mean that they have the right to murder you?

Yes, abortion in the U.S. is legal....right now. But, please feel free to attempt to justify it to yourself by saying it is legal. It was once legal to whip a slave, rage them if you own them, etc. But, at least that slave was still alive. You want to deny a child's right to even live. That is pretty callous, and definitely not Christian. Although, liberals aren't Christians anyway, so I shouldn't eve bring that up.

But, do you liberals insist on diverting every post on here, in every thread? The post subject was regarding the selling of body parts. Selling body parts are illegal. Do you want to argue that fact, or are you going to say that even though it is illegal, it's the right thing to do. I want to see you pair that up with your stance on abortion. Abortion is legal, selling body parts is not. Abortion is immoral, and selling body parts is not only immoral but illegal.

Anyway, have a great day/evening/night. Hope your conscience will allow you to sleep. If you do believe in God, I wonder how you will explain your stance to HIM. Not that it is any of my business, but it is an interesting image.

I have nothing to explain....this conversation is now beneath in level of intelligence!

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Liberals hate blacks so they push abortions. The founder of PP wanted to use abortions as her choice of genocide in the inner cities to eliminate the black population. And now liberals are complicit in exterminating black children. More black babies were murdered by abortion last year than were born. That's pretty bad, and just goes to show you that the party of slavery is at it again, under the guise that they are doing it FOR THE WOMEN. It was the women's rights. Why hide it? Admit it unless you are so stupid that you have been fooled too.

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I have nothing to explain....this conversation is now beneath in level of intelligence!

You are correct, your conversation is beneath "in" level of intelligence. Your best bet is to leave when you have no valid argument.