Electability

[Guest]

There have been the first two contests of this year's Presidential race.

The question we have to be thinking about is "who is electible"?

Is Bernie Sanders really electible? Nope. He is like Gene McCarthy and that will not fly.

Donald Trump? No, he is just making noises and could not function as President.

Cruz? No, he cannot get along with his own party.

Rubio? Maybe.

Hillary? Most likely the next President.

[Guest]

There have been the first two contests of this year's Presidential race.

The question we have to be thinking about is "who is electible"?

Is Bernie Sanders really electible? Nope. He is like Gene McCarthy and that will not fly.

Donald Trump? No, he is just making noises and could not function as President.

Cruz? No, he cannot get along with his own party.

Rubio? Maybe.

Hillary? Most likely the next President.




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[Guest]

There have been the first two contests of this year's Presidential race.

The question we have to be thinking about is "who is electible"?

Is Bernie Sanders really electible? Nope. He is like Gene McCarthy and that will not fly.

Donald Trump? No, he is just making noises and could not function as President.

Cruz? No, he cannot get along with his own party.

Rubio? Maybe.

Hillary? Most likely the next President.

:cryin2::cryin2:

[Guest]

there have been the first two contests of this year's presidential race.

The question we have to be thinking about is "who is electible"?

Is bernie sanders really electible? Nope. He is like gene mccarthy and that will not fly.

Donald trump? No, he is just making noises and could not function as president.

Cruz? No, he cannot get along with his own party.

Rubio? Maybe.

Hillary? Most likely the next president.

troll !!!

[Guest]

Think about it. I strongly support a candidate. I am ashamed of my party. I am doubly make that triply against the other parties candidate. Biden or Bloomy are not the answer either. We have trouble on the horizon. God Blessed us But God help us.

[Guest]

Think about it. I strongly support a candidate. I am ashamed of my party. I am doubly make that triply against the other parties candidate. Biden or Bloomy are not the answer either. We have trouble on the horizon. God Blessed us But God help us.

A moment of silence for the democrats.........57, 58, 59, 60......

OK all done!

[Guest]

troll !!!

Wow, awake at 3:25 a.m. and ranting on at least two threads on Political Forum.

Dude, get some sleeping pills if you cannot sleep.

[Guest]

Hillary Clinton seems the most pragmatic choice so far. Maybe, one of the Republicans will get his act together.

[Guest]

Hillary Clinton seems the most pragmatic choice so far. Maybe, one of the Republicans will get his act together.

Hillary Clinton is obviously scum. Why in the world would you even consider her? Do you have no clue? Do you not read or watch the news? Pragmatic??? What a dumb @ss comment!

[Guest]

I was planning on voting for John Kasich but today he is signing a bill which defunds Planned Parenthood.

My vote, as a Reagan democrat, must go somewhere else.

[Guest]

I was planning on voting for John Kasich but today he is signing a bill which defunds Planned Parenthood.

My vote, as a Reagan democrat, must go somewhere else.

Kasich earned my respect. They don't need PP. Besides, PP gets donations from plenty of libtards. It shouldn't be getting our tax dollars, as payment to kill future liberal voters. There are plenty of other establishments that provide female health services.

Reagan democrat...ha,ha. Good one!

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Guest;1184420]Kasich earned my respect. They don't need PP. Besides, PP gets donations from plenty of libtards. It shouldn't be getting our tax dollars, as payment to kill future liberal voters. There are plenty of other establishments that provide female health services.
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You know nothing of what Planned Parenthood offers, do you?

You just rely on the Faux News and the Tea Bag idiots posting on this forum.

[Guest]

I was planning on voting for John Kasich but today he is signing a bill which defunds Planned Parenthood.

My vote, as a Reagan democrat, must go somewhere else.

Because he is against funding the baby slaughter house?

So you are obviously in support of the millions of abortions, excluding rape and incest. And in addition you are OK withe the butchering of the murdered fetus/babies for parts. And the throwing the rest of a new born child in the garbage.

No personal investment so it is easy to do away with a life with no more remorse than flipping a light switch. Shades of Auschwitz!!!

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Guest;1184420]Kasich earned my respect. They don't need PP. Besides, PP gets donations from plenty of libtards. It shouldn't be getting our tax dollars, as payment to kill future liberal voters. There are plenty of other establishments that provide female health services.
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You know nothing of what Planned Parenthood offers, do you?

You just rely on the Faux News and the Tea Bag idiots posting on this forum.

There you go again. Can't debate so you use personal attacks. It's obvious by your comment that you know nothing about PP and nothing about Reagan. But, that is the great thing about Google. If you are not too lazy, you can do some research. After all, you want to be ready to take advantage of all that free college and stuff that comes from voting for Democrats.

By the way, there are other health services available to women that are NOT named Planned Parenthood, that are as good or better. And they don't beg for gov subsidy. FOX news thanks you for making them the most viewed cable news network. Without the liberal viewer, they would never have succeeded to become number one. I've never been to a Tea Party meeting, but if you want to learn more about them instead of what you hear from Nancy Pelosi on your liberal media outlet, I would be glad to attend one with you. Your education is very important to me.......:a20:

[Guest]

Kasich earned my respect. They don't need PP. Besides, PP gets donations from plenty of libtards. It shouldn't be getting our tax dollars, as payment to kill future liberal voters. There are plenty of other establishments that provide female health services.

Reagan democrat...ha,ha. Good one!

You are so totally unbelievable. I am a Democrat that voted for Reagan which makes me a Reagan democrat...

Planned Parenthood DOES NOT RECEIVE TAX DOLLARS FOR ABORTIONS DUE TO THE HYDE AMENDMENT...

In U.S. politics, the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortion unless the pregnancy arises from incest, rape, or to save the life of the mother.

But you are not intellectually inquisitive enough to research the facts...you just bang the drum of Fox News.

Humor us who exactly are the institutions who will provide pap smears and other women's health services when PP is defunded? A non-response will mean you are yet again blowing smoke!

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Guest;1184426]

There you go again. Can't debate so you use personal attacks. It's obvious by your comment that you know nothing about PP and nothing about Reagan. But, that is the great thing about Google. If you are not too lazy, you can do some research. After all, you want to be ready to take advantage of all that free college and stuff that comes from voting for Democrats.

By the way, there are other health services available to women that are NOT named Planned Parenthood, that are as good or better. And they don't beg for gov subsidy. FOX news thanks you for making them the most viewed cable news network. Without the liberal viewer, they would never have succeeded to become number one. I've never been to a Tea Party meeting, but if you want to learn more about them instead of what you hear from Nancy Pelosi on your liberal media outlet, I would be glad to attend one with you. Your education is very important to me.......:a20:

There you go lying again....why not provide the names of providers of these services?

[Guest]

Because he is against funding the baby slaughter house?

So you are obviously in support of the millions of abortions, excluding rape and incest. And in addition you are OK withe the butchering of the murdered fetus/babies for parts. And the throwing the rest of a new born child in the garbage.

No personal investment so it is easy to do away with a life with no more remorse than flipping a light switch. Shades of Auschwitz!!!

Why are all of you Republican so uninformed? Why don't you know you know about the Hyde Amendment? Why do you spew such vitriol!

But you are correct that I support the use of donated fetal tissue for medical research.

Your Nazi association is totally uncalled for.

YOU ARE ONE SICK PUPPY! CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR UNINFORMED HOLE!

[Guest]

Why are all of you Republican so uninformed? Why don't you know you know about the Hyde Amendment? Why do you spew such vitriol!

But you are correct that I support the use of donated fetal tissue for medical research.

Your Nazi association is totally uncalled for.

YOU ARE ONE SICK PUPPY! CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR UNINFORMED HOLE!

Ben Carson admits he used fetal tissue in his years as a research doctor.

[Guest]

Ben Carson admits he used fetal tissue in his years as a research doctor.

Tis true!!!!

But the Republicans will try to deny that...in face Ben himself tried to do that himself but its in his book!

[Guest]

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There you go lying again....why not provide the names of providers of these services?

Why don't you get an education and then you won't need to copy someone else's work? Look it up, idiot.

[Guest]

Why are all of you Republican so uninformed? Why don't you know you know about the Hyde Amendment? Why do you spew such vitriol!

But you are correct that I support the use of donated fetal tissue for medical research.

Your Nazi association is totally uncalled for.

YOU ARE ONE SICK PUPPY! CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR UNINFORMED HOLE!

So, you believe that PP gets donations and subsidy from the Taxpayer and they separate it out so that it won't be tainted by paying the doctors to perform abortions? I thought turnip trucks were a thing of the past, but you obviously came from some obscure place, where being naive is considered smart. I bet you believe the telemarketers too. :a20:

[Guest]

Why are all of you Republican so uninformed? Why don't you know you know about the Hyde Amendment? Why do you spew such vitriol!

But you are correct that I support the use of donated fetal tissue for medical research.

Your Nazi association is totally uncalled for.

YOU ARE ONE SICK PUPPY! CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR UNINFORMED HOLE!

YOu are sooo naive. And to think that anyone would want to pay for your education. If you have ever been to school, you should demand a refund.

[Guest]

....or your parents should.

[Guest]

You are so totally unbelievable. I am a Democrat that voted for Reagan which makes me a Reagan democrat...

Planned Parenthood DOES NOT RECEIVE TAX DOLLARS FOR ABORTIONS DUE TO THE HYDE AMENDMENT...

In U.S. politics, the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortion unless the pregnancy arises from incest, rape, or to save the life of the mother.

But you are not intellectually inquisitive enough to research the facts...you just bang the drum of Fox News.

Humor us who exactly are the institutions who will provide pap smears and other women's health services when PP is defunded? A non-response will mean you are yet again blowing smoke!

Dear Guest: Planned Parenthood performs 33% of all the abortions performed in America. Planned Parenthood is funded by tax payer money.
You are correct about the Hyde Amendment, it does bar tax payer money from being applied to the performance of abortions.

However, have you ever heard the term "creative accounting". Not only is Planned Parenthood harvesting baby parts from viable fetuses its also in violation of the Hyde Amendment. So should Planned Parenthood in addition to selling baby parts also be investigated for violation of te Hyde Amendment? Or do you believe those 33% of national abortions they are performing are all a result of incest, rape or saving a mother.

And finally none of what i write came to me from Fox News

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Hillary Clinton seems the most pragmatic choice so far. Maybe, one of the Republicans will get his act together.

Dear Guest: You seem to have a warped sense for the definition of pragmatic?
I will not waste my time by providing a litany of the acts defined as criminal unethical immoral, greedy, vicious, dishonest.....going back to her days in Arkansas because you certainly are quite aware. So one must assume that you have concluded that.."Yes, she is a crook but she's my crook"

Well like my grandmother use to say you have made a Faustian Bargain.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Dear Guest: Planned Parenthood performs 33% of all the abortions performed in America. Planned Parenthood is funded by tax payer money.
You are correct about the Hyde Amendment, it does bar tax payer money from being applied to the performance of abortions.

However, have you ever heard the term "creative accounting". Not only is Planned Parenthood harvesting baby parts from viable fetuses its also in violation of the Hyde Amendment. So should Planned Parenthood in addition to selling baby parts also be investigated for violation of te Hyde Amendment? Or do you believe those 33% of national abortions they are performing are all a result of incest, rape or saving a mother.

And finally none of what i write came to me from Fox News

Personal Best Regards:

Planned Parenthood hands out many contraception devices, and pills to women that can't afford it. Selling body parts is just plain wrong. Read this article.The Demographics of Abortion: It's Not What You Think (http://prospect.org/article/demographics-abortion-its-not-what-you-think)

[Guest]

If you people want to insult each other about planned parenthood, find another thread. This one is about electability. I'm a Democrat that thinks Hillary is the most experienced of all the candidates. But she has been so skewered and dissected by the press for so many years, I'm not convinced of her electability. I like Bernie but I don't think he can do what he promises without the cooperation of congress. Given the state of non-cooperation of thevRepublicans, that isn't going to happen.

[Guest]

If you people want to insult each other about planned parenthood, find another thread. This one is about electability. I'm a Democrat that thinks Hillary is the most experienced of all the candidates. But she has been so skewered and dissected by the press for so many years, I'm not convinced of her electability. I like Bernie but I don't think he can do what he promises without the cooperation of congress. Given the state of non-cooperation of thevRepublicans, that isn't going to happen.

What you are saying is neither Democrat is electable. Well, throw out someone, who is.

Hillary maybe have been skewered, and dissected by the press for years. She probably cold have survived that. However, what the Republicans have done with Benghazi, and the emails maybe a lot harder for her to survive. Both of these have to come to a head some time soon. The current Benghazi Hearing is a joke. If charges aren't brought against her for the emails, she can attack both of these as political attacks, and nothing more.

Given the way super delegates are assigned to candidates, Sanders doesn't stand a chance to receive the Democratic nomination.

[Guest]

If you people want to insult each other about planned parenthood, find another thread. This one is about electability. I'm a Democrat that thinks Hillary is the most experienced of all the candidates. But she has been so skewered and dissected by the press for so many years, I'm not convinced of her electability. I like Bernie but I don't think he can do what he promises without the cooperation of congress. Given the state of non-cooperation of thevRepublicans, that isn't going to happen.

The only mention of the electability of the Republicans running was John Kasich. It wasn't even his electability. It had to do with his feeling on Planned Parenthood. If you haven't noticed as soon as you say anything good about Democrats here, the thread will go right into the gutter. Staying on subject is a literal impossibility.

[Guest]

What you are saying is neither Democrat is electable. Well, throw out someone, who is.

Hillary maybe have been skewered, and dissected by the press for years. She probably cold have survived that. However, what the Republicans have done with Benghazi, and the emails maybe a lot harder for her to survive. Both of these have to come to a head some time soon. The current Benghazi Hearing is a joke. If charges aren't brought against her for the emails, she can attack both of these as political attacks, and nothing more.

Given the way super delegates are assigned to candidates, Sanders doesn't stand a chance to receive the Democratic nomination.

Mrs. Clinton is the most electable of ANY of the candidates. Daryll Issa's (strange his name is like ISIS? Hmmm) is just a political gimmick and he should be censured.

Yes, Hillary WILL be the next President of the USA. Anyone want to bet?

[Guest]

Planned Parenthood hands out many contraception devices, and pills to women that can't afford it. Selling body parts is just plain wrong. Read this article.The Demographics of Abortion: It's Not What You Think (http://prospect.org/article/demographics-abortion-its-not-what-you-think)

So does social services and a not of other groups. Next excuse????

[Guest]

Mrs. Clinton is the most electable of ANY of the candidates. Daryll Issa's (strange his name is like ISIS? Hmmm) is just a political gimmick and he should be censured.

Yes, Hillary WILL be the next President of the USA. Anyone want to bet?

From behind bars, whether you like it or not!! I'd bet you, but I don't gamble with money. Even though it would be a sure thing. Even Bill knows she can't win. She will barely beat the commie, and if Bloomie throws in his hat, she is finished.

[Guest]

If you people want to insult each other about planned parenthood, find another thread. This one is about electability. I'm a Democrat that thinks Hillary is the most experienced of all the candidates. But she has been so skewered and dissected by the press for so many years, I'm not convinced of her electability. I like Bernie but I don't think he can do what he promises without the cooperation of congress. Given the state of non-cooperation of thevRepublicans, that isn't going to happen.

Maybe you could share with us what experiences and accomplishments earn her such loyalty?

[Guest]

So does social services and a not of other groups. Next excuse????

Name one!!!

[Guest]

So, you believe that PP gets donations and subsidy from the Taxpayer and they separate it out so that it won't be tainted by paying the doctors to perform abortions? I thought turnip trucks were a thing of the past, but you obviously came from some obscure place, where being naive is considered smart. I bet you believe the telemarketers too. :a20:

Crawl back in to your ignorant doubt everything hole!!!

New York City born! You know when you point at someone 3 fingers are pointing back at you!

[Guest]

So does social services and a not of other groups. Next excuse????

Ok, try this one on for size.Planned Parenthood (http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/)

A whole three percentage of Planned Parenthood funding goes to abortion.

[Guest]

YOu are sooo naive. And to think that anyone would want to pay for your education. If you have ever been to school, you should demand a refund.

Do you actually read the posts before you comment or do you just come out firing?

I posted that I was looking John Kasich for as an alternative to the Democrats so clearly I am NOT feeling the BERN!

I paid my way through a small Catholic college in Kansas. Paid my student loans off in have the required time.

Your vitriol is missed placed.....

[Guest]

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Why don't you get an education and then you won't need to copy someone else's work? Look it up, idiot.

I didn't make a false claim so obviously you got NOTHING!!!!

I'll put my IQ up against yours any day of the week!!

[Guest]

....or your parents should.

Nope paid for it myself......no welfare or free college here. But I did help pay for some nieces and nephews to go to school.

[Guest]

Dear Guest: Planned Parenthood performs 33% of all the abortions performed in America. Planned Parenthood is funded by tax payer money.
You are correct about the Hyde Amendment, it does bar tax payer money from being applied to the performance of abortions.

However, have you ever heard the term "creative accounting". Not only is Planned Parenthood harvesting baby parts from viable fetuses its also in violation of the Hyde Amendment. So should Planned Parenthood in addition to selling baby parts also be investigated for violation of te Hyde Amendment? Or do you believe those 33% of national abortions they are performing are all a result of incest, rape or saving a mother.

And finally none of what i write came to me from Fox News

Personal Best Regards:

I explained my position at length on another thread and feel no compunction to do so again. If the Right Wing were not so radical and would allow abortions for incest, rape and saving the life of the mother I might be more on your side but you are not!

But you sadly went off the rails when you lied about PP SELLING body parts a claim that has been debunked and investigated at length by all the Republican controlled states.... It simply isn't true.

[Guest]

Planned Parenthood hands out many contraception devices, and pills to women that can't afford it. Selling body parts is just plain wrong. Read this article.The Demographics of Abortion: It's Not What You Think (http://prospect.org/article/demographics-abortion-its-not-what-you-think)

They don't SELL body parts.....

[Guest]

Many have claimed that women can get low cost health services from other places than Planned Parenthood. I asked for the names for these places instead I got another barrage of insults and lies about body parts.

You can't name any service providers so all you can do is insult and attack.

[Guest]

After some research the truth comes out!

You all are beating the FAUX News drum

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/09/10/fox-news-pushes-impossible-claim-that-community/205457

And they are getting their line from wait for it!

Women Can Go Elsewhere If Planned Parenthood Closes (http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/28/fact-check-yes-women-can-go-elsewhere-if-planned-parenthood-closes/)

But this site debunks the FAUX News claim:

Planned Parenthood, Community Health Centers, And Women (http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2015/09/02/planned-parenthood-community-health-centers-and-womens-health-getting-the-facts-right/)

[Guest]

They don't SELL body parts.....



O.K., they sell fetal tissue. Feel better now?

[Guest]

O.K., they sell fetal tissue. Feel better now?

They don't sell fetal tissue either!!! Where do you find this type of FALSE information? Just curious.

[Guest]

Republican controlled states have been investigating the allegations that PP has been SELLING body parts here are the results of these investigations.

No State Has Found Proof of Fetal-Tissue Sales -- NYMag (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/state-has-found-proof-of-fetal-tissue-sales.html)

[Guest]

Do not fund PP:
Louisiana
Arkansas
Alabama
New Hampshire
Texas
Utah
There are 20 comprehensive care units for every planned parenthood in America
There are over 13,540 clinics providing comprehensive care for women.

Next time, do your own work. Google is your friend. If you can't use google, then ask someone that has a brain.

[Guest]

Republican controlled states have been investigating the allegations that PP has been SELLING body parts here are the results of these investigations.

No State Has Found Proof of Fetal-Tissue Sales -- NYMag (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/state-has-found-proof-of-fetal-tissue-sales.html)

Were those actors that I saw in the videos? Are you going to attempt to deceive yourself and say those were fabricated videos. You can edit videos, but that doesn't mean they aren't true, just not admissible in court. So, act conveniently ignorant, but the fact is that PP is selling the tissue, even if they try to convince you that they are not. I have ordered stuff on-line that all you had to do is pay shipping and handling fees. The item was free but the shipping and handling was three times the actual cost. PP is playing the same scam once they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. I bet if someone got a warrant to check their bank accounts, they would find some large deposits in personal accounts. You can play naive, but the ignorant are only deemed stupid once they have been given the information and deny the facts.

[Guest]

Do not fund PP:
Louisiana
Arkansas
Alabama
New Hampshire
Texas
Utah
There are 20 comprehensive care units for every planned parenthood in America
There are over 13,540 clinics providing comprehensive care for women.

Next time, do your own work. Google is your friend. If you can't use google, then ask someone that has a brain.

I did google it and found this which debunks your claim but I won't insult your intelligence.

Have a great day!

[Guest]

I did google it and found this which debunks your claim but I won't insult your intelligence.

Have a great day!

NO, you just attempt to debunk with no facts to back you up. You are a little kid that says "nuh uhh, you're wrong" with no argument to sustain your claim. You asked for facts so I gave you facts. You, on the other hand are too lazy to even use Google. So, walk away instead of being immature about it. Denial is a sign mental illness.

The fact stands that there ARE plenty of institutions available besides PP that provide the same service. And they don't need to break the law to provide the service.

I would say "have a great day" but I know that you will just go away and pout.

[Guest]

Republican controlled states have been investigating the allegations that PP has been SELLING body parts here are the results of these investigations.

No State Has Found Proof of Fetal-Tissue Sales -- NYMag (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/state-has-found-proof-of-fetal-tissue-sales.html)

Oh no!!!

Not the old legal stance that since there is no proof there are no sales.
Said differently it is not illegal or against the law until you get caught.

The videos, like them or not, call them whatever you want are incriminating.
The people in them are ranking officials caught on camera.

The only reason this organization is not being pursued by the federal government is that it is a federally funded operation. And there is too much democratic political capital, the black vote and political incrimination....Obama, Lynch, et al.

No different that the democratic political hide weenie game with Clinton's felonious activities.

The wagons are in fact circled and the lemmings joined hands around the BS circle.

[Guest]

Oh no!!!

Not the old legal stance that since there is no proof there are no sales.
Said differently it is not illegal or against the law until you get caught.

The videos, like them or not, call them whatever you want are incriminating.
The people in them are ranking officials caught on camera.

The only reason this organization is not being pursued by the federal government is that it is a federally funded operation. And there is too much democratic political capital, the black vote and political incrimination....Obama, Lynch, et al.

No different that the democratic political hide weenie game with Clinton's felonious activities.

The wagons are in fact circled and the lemmings joined hands around the BS circle.

Ok I'm done....the right wing spin machine and love of conspiracy theories makes any kind of reasonable discussion impossible.

You believe the videos even though they where highly edited, the filmmakers are under indictment and a number a state investigations have found nothing.

You want Planned Parenthood shut down for any reason regardless of the actual facts.

Anymore discussion would be like hitting my head against a brick wall and I am smarter than that.

[Guest]

Ok I'm done....the right wing spin machine and love of conspiracy theories makes any kind of reasonable discussion impossible.

You believe the videos even though they where highly edited, the filmmakers are under indictment and a number a state investigations have found nothing.

You want Planned Parenthood shut down for any reason regardless of the actual facts.

Anymore discussion would be like hitting my head against a brick wall and I am smarter than that.

What you and too many others are either missing or intentionally ignoring is even though the videos were "highly edited" the content was real PP executives, making real statements about what they were doing or contemplating. The editing was not stated to be either adding or changing or creating dialogue....or using non PP people to make a point.

Yes you and the government are using the letter of the law...either use it, or abuse it or hide behind it to provide cover. In the case of these videos the legal comment "highly edited" is being used to make it sound as though the videos are fake....they are not.

Go ahead and hide and play how we are being unreasonable.
Were the PP executives in fact in the videos? Yes!
Did they say what was shown in the videos? Yes!
Were the videos edited? I will give you the benefit of the doubt, yes!
Does the editing change what was stated by the PP executives? NO!

For some, the blindly follow the party support they will thrive upon and live within the false doubt that has been legally created with those magical legal words "highly edited". And completely, conveniently ignoring the fact that the PP did what was filmed. And are doing what they said in the videos.

PP = fetal/baby murdering, abortion convenient birth control, butcher shop.
(I will give you they have not been caught [yet] selling).

[Guest]

Ok I'm done....the right wing spin machine and love of conspiracy theories makes any kind of reasonable discussion impossible.

You believe the videos even though they where highly edited, the filmmakers are under indictment and a number a state investigations have found nothing.

You want Planned Parenthood shut down for any reason regardless of the actual facts.

Anymore discussion would be like hitting my head against a brick wall and I am smarter than that.

Sure and OJ was innocent. If the glove does not fit...and all that.

Fact is that we don't need PP, period. And we especially don't need to fund it if they are going to make operating expenses by selling baby parts.

[Guest]

What you and too many others are either missing or intentionally ignoring is even though the videos were "highly edited" the content was real PP executives, making real statements about what they were doing or contemplating. The editing was not stated to be either adding or changing or creating dialogue....or using non PP people to make a point.

Yes you and the government are using the letter of the law...either use it, or abuse it or hide behind it to provide cover. In the case of these videos the legal comment "highly edited" is being used to make it sound as though the videos are fake....they are not.

Go ahead and hide and play how we are being unreasonable.
Were the PP executives in fact in the videos? Yes!
Did they say what was shown in the videos? Yes!
Were the videos edited? I will give you the benefit of the doubt, yes!
Does the editing change what was stated by the PP executives? NO!

For some, the blindly follow the party support they will thrive upon and live within the false doubt that has been legally created with those magical legal words "highly edited". And completely, conveniently ignoring the fact that the PP did what was filmed. And are doing what they said in the videos.

PP = fetal/baby murdering, abortion convenient birth control, butcher shop.
(I will give you they have not been caught [yet] selling).

What you are ignoring is that PP provides low cost health services to women which is NOT, as your side contends, available from other providers.

Planned Parenthood provides legal abortion services for women, these services have been under attack for many years by the right wing including the killing of doctors. The Hyde amendment insures that NO tax dollars can be used for abortions....but your side claims that PP is using tax dollars without any evidence to support that claim. At least you sorta admit that PP is NOT selling the body parts.

You won't be satisfied until PP is shutdown regardless of the facts. The fact remains that women need healthcare options how will the right wing insure that happens?

[Guest]

Sure and OJ was innocent. If the glove does not fit...and all that.

Fact is that we don't need PP, period. And we especially don't need to fund it if they are going to make operating expenses by selling baby parts.

Where do you get your PAP smears done?

PP does not sell baby parts...

[Guest]

Where do you get your PAP smears done?

PP does not sell baby parts...

Are PAP smears not covered by Obama Care?

[Guest]

Are PAP smears not covered by Obama Care?

Don't know are they?

[Guest]

Are PAP smears not covered by Obama Care?

Where do you get yours done?

[Guest]

Where do you get yours done?

Where do you get yours done?

[Guest]

What you are ignoring is that PP provides low cost health services to women which is NOT, as your side contends, available from other providers.

Planned Parenthood provides legal abortion services for women, these services have been under attack for many years by the right wing including the killing of doctors. The Hyde amendment insures that NO tax dollars can be used for abortions....but your side claims that PP is using tax dollars without any evidence to support that claim. At least you sorta admit that PP is NOT selling the body parts.

You won't be satisfied until PP is shutdown regardless of the facts. The fact remains that women need healthcare options how will the right wing insure that happens?

Forget all that red herring and divesionary garbling.
Do you agree that the PP executives were caught on tape discussing how they do business?
Do you agree the PP executives were discussing, over lunch, how to parcel out (butcher) the fetus/baby after it was killed?
Forgetting rape and incest and throw in another 5% of all abortions as OK....what about the other 95% that are for convenience?
How about the abortions for not being the sex the parents wanted.

We are quite happy to allow that PP do the things that need to be done to aid and assist the 5% that really need it. What we do not support is that PP has made a business out of all 100% of abortions.

A business that has nothing to do with protecting the lives and health and well being of the pregnant mother.

A business that relies on the killing of a live, living being called a baby or a fetus or a baby or a fetus depending when the killing takes place.

A business that has and is abusing tax payer supplied funding.

Are you OK with this high class immoral butcher shop of babies to PP benefit.....not the pregnant mother?

[Guest]

The libtard has vacated the building...............

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[Guest]

Trump has gone after Jeb since the get go. He must figure that at one time it's just going to be the two of them. And looking at who's left he may be right. Cruz is a wacko bird and Rubio is a nervous Nellie.

[Guest]

Trump has gone after Jeb since the get go. He must figure that at one time it's just going to be the two of them. And looking at who's left he may be right. Cruz is a wacko bird and Rubio is a nervous Nellie.

Good points, chi. I'm still counting on Rubio to pull out of this shallow dive and climb back up to the big time.

[Guest]

Forget all that red herring and divesionary garbling.
Do you agree that the PP executives were caught on tape discussing how they do business?
Do you agree the PP executives were discussing, over lunch, how to parcel out (butcher) the fetus/baby after it was killed?
Forgetting rape and incest and throw in another 5% of all abortions as OK....what about the other 95% that are for convenience?
How about the abortions for not being the sex the parents wanted.

We are quite happy to allow that PP do the things that need to be done to aid and assist the 5% that really need it. What we do not support is that PP has made a business out of all 100% of abortions.

A business that has nothing to do with protecting the lives and health and well being of the pregnant mother.

A business that relies on the killing of a live, living being called a baby or a fetus or a baby or a fetus depending when the killing takes place.

A business that has and is abusing tax payer supplied funding.

Are you OK with this high class immoral butcher shop of babies to PP benefit.....not the pregnant mother?

I believe that abortion is legal in the United States allows women to make the choice for themselves. If the Right Wing was not soooooo radical as to not even support abortions in the case of rape, incest and the health of the mother things could be different. I cannot forget the rape, incest and health of the mother just can't forget that!

No I don't agree that PP was selling baby parts, I don't agree that PP is using Federal Funds for abortions.

I understand you absolutely hate PP and abortions....that kind of vitriol has lead the killing of 2 abortion providers, including one in a house of worship, and the death of 2 people at PP in my home town Colorado Springs.

We are not going to agree on PP......They provide legal abortions and low cost health services to women. I am a women, while I have never gone to PP women are in need of their services. If you take away PP where will they go?

The community health centers will take time to be able to handle the load.

The Right Wing has no plan for what to do if PP is shutdown.

[Guest]

The libtard has vacated the building...............

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Nope went sailing but I'm back!!!!!!!

[Guest]

I believe that abortion is legal in the United States allows women to make the choice for themselves. If the Right Wing was not soooooo radical as to not even support abortions in the case of rape, incest and the health of the mother things could be different. I cannot forget the rape, incest and health of the mother just can't forget that!

No I don't agree that PP was selling baby parts, I don't agree that PP is using Federal Funds for abortions.

I understand you absolutely hate PP and abortions....that kind of vitriol has lead the killing of 2 abortion providers, including one in a house of worship, and the death of 2 people at PP in my home town Colorado Springs.

We are not going to agree on PP......They provide legal abortions and low cost health services to women. I am a women, while I have never gone to PP women are in need of their services. If you take away PP where will they go?

The community health centers will take time to be able to handle the load.

The Right Wing has no plan for what to do if PP is shutdown.

Not much of an argument for abortion. Abortions due to rape and incest are LESS than 1% of the total abortions.

Obviously you hate black people because of the high ratio of black babies killed by abortion every year. And that was the goal of the founder of PP.

[Guest]

I believe that abortion is legal in the United States allows women to make the choice for themselves. If the Right Wing was not soooooo radical as to not even support abortions in the case of rape, incest and the health of the mother things could be different. I cannot forget the rape, incest and health of the mother just can't forget that!

No I don't agree that PP was selling baby parts, I don't agree that PP is using Federal Funds for abortions.

I understand you absolutely hate PP and abortions....that kind of vitriol has lead the killing of 2 abortion providers, including one in a house of worship, and the death of 2 people at PP in my home town Colorado Springs.

We are not going to agree on PP......They provide legal abortions and low cost health services to women. I am a women, while I have never gone to PP women are in need of their services. If you take away PP where will they go?

The community health centers will take time to be able to handle the load.

The Right Wing has no plan for what to do if PP is shutdown.

Good attempt at side stepping the issue and the questions asked.
You choose to hide behind the general notion of abortion is legal therefore all that is being done at the baby/fetus butcher shops is OK!!

Completely missing the points of the discussion.

You support abortion because it is legal. You support PP because they do abortions. You therefore support the killing of and butchering of living fetus and babies.

sad!!

[Guest]

Not much of an argument for abortion. Abortions due to rape and incest are LESS than 1% of the total abortions.

Obviously you hate black people because of the high ratio of black babies killed by abortion every year. And that was the goal of the founder of PP.

Just when one thinks they have heard it all someone comes up with a stupid comment like the above.
That may be the way you think.
It most certainly was not stated or infered by me.
Your conclusion at best could be qualified as a half a$$ed syllogism.

No further discussion is required at this level of verbal diarrhea.

[Guest]

Not much of an argument for abortion. Abortions due to rape and incest are LESS than 1% of the total abortions.

Obviously you hate black people because of the high ratio of black babies killed by abortion every year. And that was the goal of the founder of PP.

The sick puppy has come out once again.

I really don't care that they are only 1% of all abortions....they exist and no woman should have to bear her rapist's child.

[Guest]

Good attempt at side stepping the issue and the questions asked.
You choose to hide behind the general notion of abortion is legal therefore all that is being done at the baby/fetus butcher shops is OK!!

Completely missing the points of the discussion.

You support abortion because it is legal. You support PP because they do abortions. You therefore support the killing of and butchering of living fetus and babies.

sad!!

No was is sad is you and your kind trying to impose your religious beliefs on the rest of the population. In this country we have freedom of religion which includes freedom from your religion!!!!

Not going to ride this merry go round anymore......

[Guest]

Amazing, isn't it that the Village Tea Bags and the insipid Gang of Three just want to dominate a thread and turn it into their version of a Planned Parenthood video with all the editing?

The thread was on the electability of the candidates - not the Village Tea Bag philosophy of Right To Choose.

Cruz is going to find himself out of the race because of his wacko ways. After SC, he will be gasping.

The RNC is going to have to find some way of keeping Trump from being their nominee. They KNOW that Mrs. Clinton would beat Trump badly.

The RNC wants Jeb Bush as the nominee and that is going to be tough to do.

[Guest]

No was is sad is you and your kind trying to impose your religious beliefs on the rest of the population. In this country we have freedom of religion which includes freedom from your religion!!!!

Not going to ride this merry go round anymore......

I have told you and others like you that continually manipulate what others say to suit your agenda.
My posts on the federally funded baby/fetus butcher shop has nothing to do with religion.
We know acknowledging that fact takes the air out of your polarized, dictated view on the matter.

My posts are based strictly on right or wrong and moral or immoral.

Which we also know you are not allowed to acknowledge.

So now we can go back to the other merry go round called electability.

[Guest]

I have told you and others like you that continually manipulate what others say to suit your agenda.
My posts on the federally funded baby/fetus butcher shop has nothing to do with religion.
We know acknowledging that fact takes the air out of your polarized, dictated view on the matter.

My posts are based strictly on right or wrong and moral or immoral.

Which we also know you are not allowed to acknowledge.

So now we can go back to the other merry go round called electability.

:thumbup:

[Guest]

Amazing, isn't it that the Village Tea Bags and the insipid Gang of Three just want to dominate a thread and turn it into their version of a Planned Parenthood video with all the editing?

The thread was on the electability of the candidates - not the Village Tea Bag philosophy of Right To Choose.

Cruz is going to find himself out of the race because of his wacko ways. After SC, he will be gasping.

The RNC is going to have to find some way of keeping Trump from being their nominee. They KNOW that Mrs. Clinton would beat Trump badly.

The RNC wants Jeb Bush as the nominee and that is going to be tough to do.

Interesting. No one on here has mentioned the Tea Party but you. And it appears that you insist on proclaiming your sexual perversion in every comment in relation to the Tea Party. You really should seek some help with your perversion. I am sure that the doctor will suggest that you have a deep seated need for your mother. After all, you are the only one on this whole website to use perverted sexual terms that are related to homosexual practices. I am sure that you are a nice young man, but you really should talk to someone before you go blind.

[Guest]

No was is sad is you and your kind trying to impose your religious beliefs on the rest of the population. In this country we have freedom of religion which includes freedom from your religion!!!!

Not going to ride this merry go round anymore......

You are learning. It's interesting that you associate good and bad with religion. That means that you might eventually wake up and see the light. No one mentioned religion but you. But, when you mention religion, you associate it with right and wrong. So, according to you morals are dictated by religion. Therefore, you must be an atheist. But, an atheist that acknowledges that right and wrong must be related to religious faith. Therefore, if right is related to religious faith, then abortion must be wrong by your standards. I applaud you for coming to the right conclusion, that abortion is morally wrong.

By the way, our basic statutory laws were originated based on Judeo-Christian beliefs of the original ten commandments.

[Guest]

Amazing, isn't it that the Village Tea Bags and the insipid Gang of Three just want to dominate a thread and turn it into their version of a Planned Parenthood video with all the editing?

The thread was on the electability of the candidates - not the Village Tea Bag philosophy of Right To Choose.

Cruz is going to find himself out of the race because of his wacko ways. After SC, he will be gasping.

The RNC is going to have to find some way of keeping Trump from being their nominee. They KNOW that Mrs. Clinton would beat Trump badly.

The RNC wants Jeb Bush as the nominee and that is going to be tough to do.

Thank you...a post with some actual logic, backed up by facts. Yes, the Republican process has turned out to be wonderful entertainment. I wonder what's coming up next.

[Guest]

I believe that abortion is legal in the United States allows women to make the choice for themselves. If the Right Wing was not soooooo radical as to not even support abortions in the case of rape, incest and the health of the mother things could be different. I cannot forget the rape, incest and health of the mother just can't forget that!

No I don't agree that PP was selling baby parts, I don't agree that PP is using Federal Funds for abortions.

I understand you absolutely hate PP and abortions....that kind of vitriol has lead the killing of 2 abortion providers, including one in a house of worship, and the death of 2 people at PP in my home town Colorado Springs.

We are not going to agree on PP......They provide legal abortions and low cost health services to women. I am a women, while I have never gone to PP women are in need of their services. If you take away PP where will they go?

The community health centers will take time to be able to handle the load.

The Right Wing has no plan for what to do if PP is shutdown.

Dear Guest:

Generally speaking progressives have a knack for inventing non-existent rights. The right to abortion, the right to free education, health insurance, income redistribution, same sex marriage they believe all that and more but when radical Islam says we are coming for you progressive fluff that off.

When the facts clearly speak to the corruption and lies, etc of the clinton foundation and serious breaches of security because clinton knew she would again run for president and did not want anyone snooping about her days in the State Department, especially since she was cutting deal for campaign money with foreign governments progressives respond essentially yea she is a crook but she's our crook.

Progressives are unfit to lead this nation

Finally I try and imagine what thought process a progressive goes through to rationalize that abortion is a right? The "gift of life" which progressive label "mistake" is a nation's future. the unborn have the right to life. Those who have children should look them in the eye and tell them they really had no right to be born. True some grow up and parents may wish they were not but the vast majority contribute to our nation

[Guest]

Interesting. No one on here has mentioned the Tea Party but you. And it appears that you insist on proclaiming your sexual perversion in every comment in relation to the Tea Party. You really should seek some help with your perversion. I am sure that the doctor will suggest that you have a deep seated need for your mother. After all, you are the only one on this whole website to use perverted sexual terms that are related to homosexual practices. I am sure that you are a nice young man, but you really should talk to someone before you go blind.

You seem to be the only person hung up on some relationship to homosexuals and the Tea Party. If that is what you do at your meetings, go at it.

The Supreme Court has said you and your buddy can be legally married.

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[Guest]

You are learning. It's interesting that you associate good and bad with religion. That means that you might eventually wake up and see the light. No one mentioned religion but you. But, when you mention religion, you associate it with right and wrong. So, according to you morals are dictated by religion. Therefore, you must be an atheist. But, an atheist that acknowledges that right and wrong must be related to religious faith. Therefore, if right is related to religious faith, then abortion must be wrong by your standards. I applaud you for coming to the right conclusion, that abortion is morally wrong.

By the way, our basic statutory laws were originated based on Judeo-Christian beliefs of the original ten commandments.

I can see you don't follow the ten commandments.

[Guest]

You seem to be the only person hung up on some relationship to homosexuals and the Tea Party. If that is what you do at your meetings, go at it.

The Supreme Court has said you and your buddy can be legally married.

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I didn't even know of your deviant behavior until I looked up the label that you use for those that intimidate you. Look, what you do in private is your business.

[Guest]

I can see you don't follow the ten commandments.

Which one (commandment) do you have issue with? The one that says, Thou shalt not kill? How do you work that one into your abortion philosophy?