Golf Carts vs Cars

[CritterLover]

Ok, seriously..if you wouldn't drive a car thru a parking lot as if you're a Nascar driver, why is ok to drive a souped-up golf cart in such a way? Not only do I live here, but I also work here, and I can't tell you how many times I've left my office, at which we are required to park in the back, and almost gotten creamed by a flying golf cart while I'm attempting to make it from the door to my car! Yesterday, there's absolutely no way the golf cart driver could have stopped had I been backing out of my parking space. A little courtesy, please!

:sad:

[villagetinker]

I agree with you, See this a few times per month at Spanish Springs lanes parking lot. The carts seem to come from the ave Sonoma taking a short cut to the shopping Center. This is especially bad now because of the construction trailers parked in the lot.
Also see this on several of the shopping center parking lots in the are. Carts can be hard to see, especially if there is an SUV or truck in the area.

We all have to drive and walk defensively.

[Chatbrat]

And they blow thru the stop signs @ the St. James and Bailey Trail gate, heaven forbid they should come to a complete stop & let the engine restart

Almost filled my quota this year yesterday @ St. James

[CritterLover]

My office is near Southern Trace and you take you life in your hands to even consider walking anywhere at the backs of the offices or the shopping center!

[VApeople]

Yesterday, there's absolutely no way the golf cart driver could have stopped had I been backing out of my parking space.

Why do you ever park in a space that requires you to back out? Find a pull-through site, even if you have to walk a hundred yards farther.

[Bogie Shooter]

If you don't know what the parking lots look like. How can you advise to pull thru a parking spot?

[flyerguy]

Unfortunately to many drivers just don't think beyond the front of their vehicle. Car or Cart you have to anticipate what might be coming from all directions. Be a defensive driver at all times, things happen in a split moment. Also unfortunate is some just don't learn 'till its to late.

[VApeople]

If you don't know what the parking lots look like. How can you advise to pull thru a parking spot?

We visited for three days in November, so we think we know everything about TV.

At every village center, we found pull-through spots to park. If there were no pull through spots, and learning how people drive their golf carts so crazy, we would back into a parking spot.

Survival.

[JoMar]

When we take the car, which is seldom, we always either use a pull through space or back into the space. Also, seeing more do that at the Savannah Center.

[villagetinker]

We learned early on that living on an inside corner of the street, you have very limited view backing out of a driveway. This was during the construction period in our village, so we had to dodge speeding construction vehicles and workers. Our solution is to pull past our drive (part way around the turn) and back in. Now we have a great viw when leaving the driveway.
We use turn signals if there is anyone near use when backing in so they know which way we are going.

[perrjojo]

Why do you ever park in a space that requires you to back out? Find a pull-through site, even if you have to walk a hundred yards farther.
I don't know about the Florida law but in some states you can be cited for improper backing when parking facing outward in a parking space. Kansa is one such state.

[perrjojo]

There have been almost 38,000,000 minutes in my lifetime. I wonder why saving one or two minutes is such a priority for so many people. So down and enjoy each minute, it's all we've got.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Some people just have an inherent death wish once they leave that safe confines of their home; like the people in carts that haul a** through the parking lot of Seabreeze Rec. Center to save maybe 2 seconds, like the idiot walking right down the middle of the MMP (with earbuds on) between the tunnel and service road on Turtle Mound last week, like the person in a cart that crossed 466 today at Bob Evans against a red light (it's a no no even with a green light).

[Walter123]

Some people just have an inherent death wish once they leave that safe confines of their home; like the people in carts that haul a** through the parking lot of Seabreeze Rec. Center to save maybe 2 seconds, like the idiot walking right down the middle of the MMP (with earbuds on) between the tunnel and service road on Turtle Mound last week, like the person in a cart that crossed 466 today at Bob Evans against a red light (it's a no no even with a green light).

We all have stories. Who can say why people do the things they do. People make mistakes. Did you ever do something wrong while driving?

[kcrazorbackfan]

We all have stories. Who can say why people do the things they do. People make mistakes. Did you ever do something wrong while driving?

I probably have; but with the way people want to sue nowadays for anything and everything, I pretty much drive on the straight and narrow. Been in 6 vehicle wrecks and 1 plane crash that weren't my fault though. I did wreck a new patrol car stopping a stolen car with an escaped convict in it; a day earlier, it would have been my old unit.

I'm really amazed with the amount of carts here that more people aren't seriously injured, or even killed, with the way people drive and with the immobility of some people I see getting out of their vehicles/carts; I mean some of these drivers can barely walk, much less even move.

[JoMar]

I don't know about the Florida law but in some states you can be cited for improper backing when parking facing outward in a parking space. Kansa is one such state.

Has anyone ever heard of a person being cited in a parking lot that wasn't accident related? I don't know it it's a law or not but if it is, it isn't enforced.

[Barefoot]

We visited for three days in November, so we think we know everything about TV. :highfive:

[Polar Bear]

We visited for three days in November, so we think we know everything about TV...

It took you that long?? :)

[rubicon]

Does anyone ever consider The Villages demographics?

[Nucky]

I love TOTV and it is very informative and by now I know the people pretty well from their posts. There surely are many fantastic people living in the community which I hope to call home if we are as fortunate as everyone else. I was a trucking company dispatcher for 25 years and though I had heard of every road incident known to man which I always listened to with patience and kindness as my reaction could possibly help reduce a road rage incident that many professional drivers suffer from. I made a remarkable discovery during my baby sitting sessions. It had nothing to do with being in a hurry. It had everything to do with the amount of money they made divided by the time they spent driving, they drove for a commission on each load. Enter my bright idea, hourly pay. The stories stopped and they started to take forever to get to their destination but because the hourly rate was set properly it saved the company a few dollars and the driving nightmares ended for the most part and accident's reduced greatly. The people in the golf carts need to drive in the by the hour mentality instead of commission. Why do we need to be first in line, why do we have to win at everything, why is our Doctor the best, why is our Barber number one, why is our Chinese Restaurant the best, why do we live our lives like an Olympic Event? I'm guilty sometimes to but I'm aware of all of this and more so I now have no excuse. Stay safe, all these accidents are terrible considering all these fine people have made it to retirement age in the shape their in and now drive like fools. Chill Out. Hope to see you all soon. P.S. when I came to investigate last March on one of my call's home to the Boss I reported how friendly, clean and beautiful the entire operation is but told my wife about a stunt driver in a white golf cart who looked like her mom. Traveling full out hammer down and it looked like the thought hit this person out of nowhere to make a right turn which she did on two wheels. Never broke a sweat just kept on trucking...must have been on commission.

[Walter123]

I'm really amazed with the amount of carts here that more people aren't seriously injured, or even killed, with the way people drive and with the immobility of some people I see getting out of their vehicles/carts; I mean some of these drivers can barely walk, much less even move.

If you are really amazed that there aren't more golf cart accidents then maybe it's not as bad as you think.

[Walter123]

I love TOTV and it is very informative and by now I know the people pretty well from their posts. There surely are many fantastic people living in the community which I hope to call home if we are as fortunate as everyone else. I was a trucking company dispatcher for 25 years and though I had heard of every road incident known to man which I always listened to with patience and kindness as my reaction could possibly help reduce a road rage incident that many professional drivers suffer from. I made a remarkable discovery during my baby sitting sessions. It had nothing to do with being in a hurry. It had everything to do with the amount of money they made divided by the time they spent driving, they drove for a commission on each load. Enter my bright idea, hourly pay. The stories stopped and they started to take forever to get to their destination but because the hourly rate was set properly it saved the company a few dollars and the driving nightmares ended for the most part and accident's reduced greatly. The people in the golf carts need to drive in the by the hour mentality instead of commission. Why do we need to be first in line, why do we have to win at everything, why is our Doctor the best, why is our Barber number one, why is our Chinese Restaurant the best, why do we live our lives like an Olympic Event? I'm guilty sometimes to but I'm aware of all of this and more so I now have no excuse. Stay safe, all these accidents are terrible considering all these fine people have made it to retirement age in the shape their in and now drive like fools. Chill Out. Hope to see you all soon. P.S. when I came to investigate last March on one of my call's home to the Boss I reported how friendly, clean and beautiful the entire operation is but told my wife about a stunt driver in a white golf cart who looked like her mom. Traveling full out hammer down and it looked like the thought hit this person out of nowhere to make a right turn which she did on two wheels. Never broke a sweat just kept on trucking...must have been on commission.

A little Baileys in the morning coffee is good!

[Bay Kid]

We need a race track so all these fast carts can let them go!

[Topspinmo]

We need a race track so all these fast carts can let them go!


We got one! The MMP and diamond lanes. Got passed yesterday by golfer going 30 plus in gas cart, I count tell the engine was about maxed out with no governor control. No it wasn't LSV!

[RickeyD]

We got one! The MMP and diamond lanes. Got passed yesterday by golfer going 30 plus in gas cart, I count tell the engine was about maxed out with no governor control. No it wasn't LSV!


Doesn't take much to back off on a nut a few turns.

[kcrazorbackfan]

If you are really amazed that there aren't more golf cart accidents then maybe it's not as bad as you think.

Hmmm. I really don't think it's THAT bad; but any place the size of TV is going to have their share of dufus drivers - both vehicle and carts. The main culprits are the commercial drivers.

[RickeyD]

Hmmm. I really don't think it's THAT bad; but any place the size of TV is going to have their share of dufus drivers - both vehicle and carts. The main culprits are the commercial drivers.


Typically, intelligent life not positioned in one of these seats.

[dbussone]

Typically, intelligent life not positioned in one of these seats.

Just another transient life form! Beam them up Scotty.

[Fred R]

I don't know about the Florida law but in some states you can be cited for improper backing when parking facing outward in a parking space. Kansa is one such state.

What in the world would be a legal justification for a crazy law like that? I can't wait to hear this one.

[Topspinmo]

What in the world would be a legal justification for a crazy law like that? I can't wait to hear this one.

Diagonal parking, if you pull through you will be exiting in the wrong direction unless your in smart car. One straight parking it's easier to see pulling out when you pull through and let's face it or necks don't turn like owl when we get in our senior years. I would rather see some pull through to space and not be able to look back when trying to back out?

[rubicon]

One poster said that a cart flew by him/her at 30mph. I would like to know how the poster determined this cart passed him/her at 30mph? I would be curious to know at what speed the poster was traveling when this cart passed him/her? Do we have a tortoise and the hare scenario?

One of my favorites are to be behind the drivers traveling on a 30mph road here and believe that they are being twice as good because they are going 15mph ... Happen to me again this morning

[twoplanekid]

As everyone must go through PB 101, beginning practice, PB 102 and more before allowed in open play, it might be good to require golf car drivers to attend the VHA golf car safety seminar. Today, I was able to attend and felt that I picked up some useful tips to keep everyone safe. It was stated that some insurance companies offer a discount for attendance.
As a side note, local law enforcement says that they can’t place tickets on cars for bad parking as they are only allowed to ticket people in person.

[CFrance]

As everyone must go through PB 101, beginning practice, PB 102 and more before allowed in open play, it might be good to require golf car drivers to attend the VHA golf car safety seminar. Today, I was able to attend and felt that I picked up some useful tips to keep everyone safe. It was stated that some insurance companies offer a discount for attendance.
As a side note, local law enforcement says that they can’t place tickets on cars for bad parking as they are only allowed to ticket people in person.
Wish the City of Pittsburgh parking police had that rule when I was younger.

[dbussone]

As everyone must go through PB 101, beginning practice, PB 102 and more before allowed in open play, it might be good to require golf car drivers to attend the VHA golf car safety seminar. Today, I was able to attend and felt that I picked up some useful tips to keep everyone safe. It was stated that some insurance companies offer a discount for attendance.
As a side note, local law enforcement says that they can’t place tickets on cars for bad parking as they are only allowed to ticket people in person.


We might be the only jurisdiction in the country where this is the law. Which county responded in this fashion?

They can certainly ticket an auto or cart illegally parked in a Handicapped spot.

[twoplanekid]

We might be the only jurisdiction in the country where this is the law. Which county responded in this fashion?

They can certainly ticket an auto or cart illegally parked in a Handicapped spot.


They say it's a Florida thing.

[BobnBev]

They say it's a Florida thing.

So much for the red light camera's being legal.:popcorn:

[DonH57]

I don't know how much a governor on a gas cart can be set to but I've been passed by some carts while I was going 20 on the MMP's, and it was if I was sitting still. I never heard them come up on me till they went by. They weren't street legal either.

[dbussone]

I don't know how much a governor on a gas cart can be set to but I've been passed by some carts while I was going 20 on the MMP's, and it was if I was sitting still. I never heard them come up on me till they went by. They weren't street legal either.


While driving a car at 30 MPH on Pinellas Place, I've been passed on the right by golf carts.

[DonH57]

While driving a car at 30 MPH on Pinellas Place, I've been passed on the right by golf carts.

I've been passed by non street legal golf carts on Enrique in our car and Enrique is posted at 25 mph.

[CritterLover]

Why do you ever park in a space that requires you to back out? Find a pull-through site, even if you have to walk a hundred yards farther.

1) Because there's no capability where we park, and
2) Because I'd never inconvenience those motorists around me by making them wait for me to park in such a way.

The point is that we should all be more courteous to each other, rather than selfishly expecting the world to revolve around only us.

[CritterLover]

Some people just have an inherent death wish once they leave that safe confines of their home; like the people in carts that haul a** through the parking lot of Seabreeze Rec. Center to save maybe 2 seconds, like the idiot walking right down the middle of the MMP (with earbuds on) between the tunnel and service road on Turtle Mound last week, like the person in a cart that crossed 466 today at Bob Evans against a red light (it's a no no even with a green light).

EXACTLY..but, you know, their time IS way more important than everyone else's, right? SMH.

[CritterLover]

I really think it (mostly) comes down to, as my husband would say, "mine over matter..if it ain't mine, it don't matter." Yes, he's my resident redneck and, yes, he knows that's not how the saying goes; however, he has a point which is well-represented in TV.