Colin Powell and Respect for the Office of the Presidency.

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Colin Powell: GOP Candidates 'Belittling' The Country And Presidency : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2016/03/06/469420705/colin-powell-gop-candidates-belittling-the-country-and-presidency?)

This does seem very true with a troll taking over the dialog and the media feeding him along with some of his opponents.

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A nice example of respect:


"Nancy Reagan once wrote that nothing could prepare you for living in the White House. She was right, of course. But we had a head start, because we were fortunate to benefit from her proud example, and her warm and generous advice.

Our former First Lady redefined the role in her time here. Later, in her long goodbye with President Reagan, she became a voice on behalf of millions of families going through the depleting, aching reality of Alzheimer’s, and took on a new role, as advocate, on behalf of treatments that hold the potential and the promise to improve and save lives.

We offer our sincere condolences to their children, Patti, Ron, and Michael, and to their grandchildren. And we remain grateful for Nancy Reagan's life, thankful for her guidance, and prayerful that she and her beloved husband are together again." —President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama

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A nice example of respect:


"Nancy Reagan once wrote that nothing could prepare you for living in the White House. She was right, of course. But we had a head start, because we were fortunate to benefit from her proud example, and her warm and generous advice.

Our former First Lady redefined the role in her time here. Later, in her long goodbye with President Reagan, she became a voice on behalf of millions of families going through the depleting, aching reality of Alzheimer’s, and took on a new role, as advocate, on behalf of treatments that hold the potential and the promise to improve and save lives.

We offer our sincere condolences to their children, Patti, Ron, and Michael, and to their grandchildren. And we remain grateful for Nancy Reagan's life, thankful for her guidance, and prayerful that she and her beloved husband are together again." —President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama

Again, I must define that I am a very conservative republican and oppose almost all of Obama policies. I have been active on here beginning thread on his foreign policy and Obama care, both of which are terrible.

I say that only to seperate myself from the usual back and forth between sides.

Having said that, every time I hear Trump even use Reagans name, I choke. While the Reagans had character, Trump is not even aware of its meaning nor does he care to know.

Not speaking only of marriage, but his fraudulent activities, his lying blatantly, his labeling if people......understand all you Trump field troops, if you chose to disagree, you will suddenly become a loser, or stupid.

He does not deserve to say the name Reagan and frankly, if convenient he will call him names

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Getting back to the subject, I will preface this post by saying I was proud to work for Powell. Key word "WAS." He was a good man when he was SecState and did a lot for modernizing the whole IT system. [another reason Hillary has no excuse for her blatant disregard in handling classified information] However, I discovered a totally different face on Powell when he endorsed Obama over a war hero in the first election, and then knowing how poor Obama did in his first term, Powell endorsed him again. I can only conclude that he is just as racist as Obama. That is very disappointing. Up until that point, I had admired Powell as a leader. As far as I am concerned, he might as well have committed treason along with Hillary. From now on, I will always think of Powell as a racist whenever I observe him in public, on TV or in the news media. I am ashamed of him. Any comments coming from him in the future will never be taken seriously, because I will always consider his motive as racist based.

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Getting back to the subject, I will preface this post by saying I was proud to work for Powell. Key word "WAS." He was a good man when he was SecState and did a lot for modernizing the whole IT system. [another reason Hillary has no excuse for her blatant disregard in handling classified information] However, I discovered a totally different face on Powell when he endorsed Obama over a war hero in the first election, and then knowing how poor Obama did in his first term, Powell endorsed him again. I can only conclude that he is just as racist as Obama. That is very disappointing. Up until that point, I had admired Powell as a leader. As far as I am concerned, he might as well have committed treason along with Hillary. From now on, I will always think of Powell as a racist whenever I observe him in public, on TV or in the news media. I am ashamed of him. Any comments coming from him in the future will never be taken seriously, because I will always consider his motive as racist based.

Are racists hypocrites? Most definitely.
Do you know how you can tell?

Just make note of where they live, work, play and habg out!!!!
Yup! The more loudly they rattle the racist chain the whiter they are.

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Again, I must define that I am a very conservative republican and oppose almost all of Obama policies. I have been active on here beginning thread on his foreign policy and Obama care, both of which are terrible.

I say that only to seperate myself from the usual back and forth between sides.

Having said that, every time I hear Trump even use Reagans name, I choke. While the Reagans had character, Trump is not even aware of its meaning nor does he care to know.

Not speaking only of marriage, but his fraudulent activities, his lying blatantly, his labeling if people......understand all you Trump field troops, if you chose to disagree, you will suddenly become a loser, or stupid.

He does not deserve to say the name Reagan and frankly, if convenient he will call him names

I chuckle when I read stuff about how great reagan was, maybe you better go back and read the history about his years as president, and nancy's also.

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I chuckle when I read stuff about how great reagan was, maybe you better go back and read the history about his years as president, and nancy's also.

And, I chuckle when I read your posts.:D

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I chuckle when I read stuff about how great reagan was, maybe you better go back and read the history about his years as president, and nancy's also.

Some trolls have kept up their tedious posts about how the Secret Service disliked Hillary.

Go back into the Ronnie Reagan years and read how the Secret Service hated Nancy Reagan!

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Some trolls have kept up their tedious posts about how the Secret Service disliked Hillary.

Go back into the Ronnie Reagan years and read how the Secret Service hated Nancy Reagan!

You know, I took your advice and this is what I have found. Please share all the link to read about the hate that the SS had for Ms Reagan !! THanks

"Ronald Reagan was moral, honest, respectful, and dignified. The Reagan’s treated Secret Service and everyone else with respect and honor. Nancy Reagan was very nice but very protective of the President- Truth!
Ronald Reagan’s codename was Rawhide and according to Kessler’s book he treated the Secret Service agents, the Air Force One Crew and the staff of maids and butlers at the White House with respect. President Reagan was known to carry a fire arm and told a former agent that it was “just in case you guys can’t do your job, I can help out.” A former agent told Kessler that when Reagan travelled on his first presidential trip to the Soviet Union he had packed a gun in his briefcase. A former staff member told Kessler that “Reagan was famous for firing up Air Force jets on behalf of children who needed transport for kidney operations.”

Kessler wrote that Nancy Reagan was very protective of her husband, oversaw his diet and all visits from the children of the President had to be cleared by her first."

https://www.truthorfiction.com/secret-service-presidents/

"A former Secret Service agent assigned to protect Nancy Reagan says the former first lady was every bit as gracious in her personal life as her public one.

Tim Franklin served on the Reagans’ security detail from 2001 to 2003. He said he spent more than half that time assigned as Mrs. Reagan’s protective agent, and accompanied her to the White House in 2002 when she received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

“It was very unique to be around her during those moments in history after they left office, and see her private reactions to the politics that were happening,” Franklin said.

The ASU criminology professor happened to be in Washington D.C. Sunday, so he decided to place a flower outside the White House in her honor.

“She was extremely kind to me. She was also, what I would say, the epitome of class.”



Read more: Secret Service agent assigned to protect Nancy Reagan remembers - FOX10 News | WALA (http://www.fox10tv.com/story/31400487/secret-service-agent-assigned-to-protect-nancy-reagan-remembers-her-as-gracious-kind#ixzz42Gn1VkCJ)

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"RONALD & NANCY REAGAN:

*"The real deal --- moral, honest, respectful, and dignified.
They treated Secret Service and everyone else with respect and
honor. Thanked everyone all the time. He took the time to know
everyone on a personal level. "
"One "favorite" story which has circulated among the Secret
Service personnel was an incident early in his Presidency,
when he came out of his room with a pistol tucked on his hip.
The agent in charge asked: "Why the pistol, Mr. President?"
He replied, "In case you boys can't get the job done, I can help."
It was common for him to carry a pistol. When he met with
Gorbachev, he had a pistol in his briefcase. Upon learning that
Gary Hart was caught with Donna Rice, Reagan said,
"Boys will be boys, but boys will not be Presidents."
[He obviously either did not know or forgot JFK's and LBJ's
sexcapades!]"
**"She was very nice but very protective of the President; and
the Secret Service was often caught in the middle. She tried
hard to control what the President ate, and he would say to the
agent "Come on, you gotta help me out."
The Reagans drank wine during State dinners and special
occasions only; otherwise, they shunned alcohol; the Secret
Service could count on one hand the times they were served
wine during their "family dinner". For all the fake bluster of
the Carters, the Reagans were the ones who lived life as
genuinely moral people."


theabundantgift: Secret Service - Behind The Scenes (http://theabundantgift.blogspot.com/2012/06/secret-service-behind-scenes.html)

From the secret service (http://www.slideshare.net/dblixt/from-the-secret-service)

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I chuckle when I read stuff about how great reagan was, maybe you better go back and read the history about his years as president, and nancy's also.

Even the Democrats like those two. You are such a miserable person that has so much immature hate in you. You must have been a middle child that your momma ignored way too much.

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Has anyone else read any of Colin Powell's books? This is a good summary. Review of Colin Powell's Autobiography (http://orion.it.luc.edu/~jwillia/powell.html)

I would support with pride Colin Powell. Does anyone remember why he was overlooked or was it his decision that he was being judged by the company he kept. And he was uncomfortable with that kind of judgement.

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Getting back to the subject, I will preface this post by saying I was proud to work for Powell. Key word "WAS." He was a good man when he was SecState and did a lot for modernizing the whole IT system. [another reason Hillary has no excuse for her blatant disregard in handling classified information] However, I discovered a totally different face on Powell when he endorsed Obama over a war hero in the first election, and then knowing how poor Obama did in his first term, Powell endorsed him again. I can only conclude that he is just as racist as Obama. That is very disappointing. Up until that point, I had admired Powell as a leader. As far as I am concerned, he might as well have committed treason along with Hillary. From now on, I will always think of Powell as a racist whenever I observe him in public, on TV or in the news media. I am ashamed of him. Any comments coming from him in the future will never be taken seriously, because I will always consider his motive as racist based.


This is nothing but a racist rant, and you will probably say your a christian.

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And, I chuckle when I read your posts.:D

I'm glad you agree with me.

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Even the Democrats like those two. You are such a miserable person that has so much immature hate in you. You must have been a middle child that your momma ignored way too much.

Did you go back and read his history? Your pathetic, typical hypocrite.

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Getting back to the subject, I will preface this post by saying I was proud to work for Powell. Key word "WAS." He was a good man when he was SecState and did a lot for modernizing the whole IT system. [another reason Hillary has no excuse for her blatant disregard in handling classified information] However, I discovered a totally different face on Powell when he endorsed Obama over a war hero in the first election, and then knowing how poor Obama did in his first term, Powell endorsed him again. I can only conclude that he is just as racist as Obama. That is very disappointing. Up until that point, I had admired Powell as a leader. As far as I am concerned, he might as well have committed treason along with Hillary. From now on, I will always think of Powell as a racist whenever I observe him in public, on TV or in the news media. I am ashamed of him. Any comments coming from him in the future will never be taken seriously, because I will always consider his motive as racist based.

Has anyone else read any of Colin Powell's books? This is a good summary. Review of Colin Powell's Autobiography (http://orion.it.luc.edu/~jwillia/powell.html)

I would support with pride Colin Powell. Does anyone remember why he was overlooked or was it his decision that he was being judged by the company he kept. And he was uncomfortable with that kind of judgement.

Colin Powell is the consummate gentleman and diplomat who served our country extraordinarily well as secretary of state. The very idea of sending the man down the toilet just because of disagreeing with a decision he made--even a major one--is something I cannot fathom. "Treason"? Isn't that a bit much for his making an endorsement? As far as I'm concerned, he is still the same consummate gentleman and diplomat, which doesn't mean I agree with absolutely everything he's said and done....

It was my understanding that General Powell opted out of being a vice presidential candidate because of Mrs. Powell, who would not have handled well the stresses of having their private lives taken apart by the media and others. He is very protective of her (just as other posters cite how protective Mrs. Reagan was of her husband), and that certainly speaks well of the man too.

IMHO, there is more to life than politics, though clearly there are many who would disagree with me, instead seeing everything through the eyes of politics! I could never live that way....

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Powell proved that his judgement has been impaired in his old age when he endorsed Obama twice. The first time is forgivable but the second time, after knowing how much of a failure Obama was, his endorsement showed his flaws.

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Powell proved that his judgement has been impaired in his old age
He is 78 now. How old was he when he endorsed Obama?

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This is nothing but a racist rant, and you will probably say your a christian.
:big bow:

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Ronald Reagan was a nice guy, but one of the worst presidents ever, possibly even worse than Bush. He tripled the national debt, raised taxes 11 times on the middle class while cutting taxes for the rich; ignored AIDS, the whole Iran/Contra affair, etc. And lets face it, Nancy was a kook. Consulting an astrologer?? The Reagans chief of staff said the whole time in office they did nothing without consulting an astrologer to see if the planets were in alignment. Fruitcakes.

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Ronald Reagan was a nice guy, but one of the worst presidents ever, possibly even worse than Bush. He tripled the national debt, raised taxes 11 times on the middle class while cutting taxes for the rich; ignored AIDS, the whole Iran/Contra affair, etc. And lets face it, Nancy was a kook. Consulting an astrologer?? The Reagans chief of staff said the whole time in office they did nothing without consulting an astrologer to see if the planets were in alignment. Fruitcakes.

The Reagan Era: Government By Horoscope? - Page 2 - tribunedigital-chicagotribune (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-03-19/features/9001230002_1_joan-quigley-astrologer-nancy-reagan/2)

Not exactly true. They color coded days it looked like. Some top athletes are very superstitious and are payed a lot more than the Reagans ever were.

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The Reagan Era: Government By Horoscope? - Page 2 - tribunedigital-chicagotribune (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-03-19/features/9001230002_1_joan-quigley-astrologer-nancy-reagan/2)

Not exactly true. They color coded days it looked like. Some top athletes are very superstitious and are payed a lot more than the Reagans ever were.

Most prominent athletes who are not superstitious are paid more than the Reagans or any sitting president. Its not about the money, its that the head of our country was relying on ASTROLOGY to make decisions. :faint:

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Ronald Reagan was a nice guy, but one of the worst presidents ever, possibly even worse than Bush. He tripled the national debt, raised taxes 11 times on the middle class while cutting taxes for the rich; ignored AIDS, the whole Iran/Contra affair, etc. And lets face it, Nancy was a kook. Consulting an astrologer?? The Reagans chief of staff said the whole time in office they did nothing without consulting an astrologer to see if the planets were in alignment. Fruitcakes.

Let me guess, you are a fan of the Clintons, and the Obummers. Funny how you are probably the only loonie that feels that way about Reagan, and most likely, it's all because of politics and your radical ideology. But, your bait worked. You finally got some attention. You poor unfortunate child.

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Most prominent athletes who are not superstitious are paid more than the Reagans or any sitting president. Its not about the money, its that the head of our country was relying on ASTROLOGY to make decisions. :faint:
good point

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Powell proved that his judgement has been impaired in his old age when he endorsed Obama twice. The first time is forgivable but the second time, after knowing how much of a failure Obama was, his endorsement showed his flaws.

You may disagree with General Powell's endorsements, but to call them "treason" simply because you don't agree with them?! I'm not implying that I don't disagree with them as well, but I will say that I think highly of the general; I did way back when, and I still do. The man is still the exemplary citizen today that he was decades ago.

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Ronald Reagan was a nice guy, but one of the worst presidents ever, possibly even worse than Bush. He tripled the national debt, raised taxes 11 times on the middle class while cutting taxes for the rich; ignored AIDS, the whole Iran/Contra affair, etc. And lets face it, Nancy was a kook. Consulting an astrologer?? The Reagans chief of staff said the whole time in office they did nothing without consulting an astrologer to see if the planets were in alignment. Fruitcakes.

I've heard it not just said but explained that the economic issues that we've dealt with during, say, the past decade stem from what the first President Bush, whom I considered an intelligent man, called "voodoo economics." And the explanation was NOT in a political context but rather in an economics one.

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Even the Democrats like those two. You are such a miserable person that has so much immature hate in you. You must have been a middle child that your momma ignored way too much.

This is nothing but a racist rant, and you will probably say your a christian.

Did you go back and read his history? Your pathetic, typical hypocrite.

Let me guess, you are a fan of the Clintons, and the Obummers. Funny how you are probably the only loonie that feels that way about Reagan, and most likely, it's all because of politics and your radical ideology. But, your bait worked. You finally got some attention. You poor unfortunate child.

This type of name calling and personal insulting doesn't even belong in elementary school, let alone among adults ostensibly discussing a subject of interest. Are people capable of expressing differing opinions while keeping the focus on the subject and not being offensive toward one another? Goodness....

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This type of name calling and personal insulting doesn't even belong in elementary school, let alone among adults ostensibly discussing a subject of interest. Are people capable of expressing differing opinions while keeping the focus on the subject and not being offensive toward one another? Goodness....

There are several here that the answer is a resounding NO!

They are either incapable or not allowed.

All one had to do was listen to Debbie wasername last night to detect the all telling snap responses, changing of the subject and not stay with the question being asked.

She is the die hard (in her case the hard up).....partisan rabble rouser....I am sure she authors the daily talking points telling the followers what to say and what they are not allowed to say.

Complete waste of time by incompetent people.

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There are several here that the answer is a resounding NO!

They are either incapable or not allowed.

All one had to do was listen to Debbie wasername last night to detect the all telling snap responses, changing of the subject and not stay with the question being asked.

She is the die hard (in her case the hard up).....partisan rabble rouser....I am sure she authors the daily talking points telling the followers what to say and what they are not allowed to say.

Complete waste of time by incompetent people.

:agree:

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Let me guess, you are a fan of the Clintons, and the Obummers. Funny how you are probably the only loonie that feels that way about Reagan, and most likely, it's all because of politics and your radical ideology. But, your bait worked. You finally got some attention. You poor unfortunate child.

No, I am not a fan of the Clintons, and I'm also not a fan of any politician that relies on astrology to make decisions for the country. I think people like that are incompetent, and well, weird. But you're entitled to your view that astrology has a place in Republican politics. You just better not mention that out loud, or people will look at you funny.

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No, I am not a fan of the Clintons, and I'm also not a fan of any politician that relies on astrology to make decisions for the country. I think people like that are incompetent, and well, weird. But you're entitled to your view that astrology has a place in Republican politics. You just better not mention that out loud, or people will look at you funny.

You seem to be confused. I have never mentioned anything in any post regarding "astrology." It seems that like many liberals, you resort to putting words and meanings into your opponent's mouth when you are losing the argument.

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I lost all respect for Colin Powell when he let Scooter Libby take the fall for the Valerie Plumbe "outing." He knew Richard Armitage was the guilty party. For that matter special prosecutor Fitzgerald knew it also.

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You seem to be confused. I have never mentioned anything in any post regarding "astrology." It seems that like many liberals, you resort to putting words and meanings into your opponent's mouth when you are losing the argument.

Its probably beyond your level of comprehension, but when you referred to loony liberals being the only ones who thought poorly of Regan, and you clearly are not a liberal, therefore by logic you are a conservative who approved of Regean. And since Reagan believed in astrology, and since you thought he was so terrific, you clearly didn't have a problem with astrology being a part of Republican politics. If you don't feel that way - if you think Reagan's use of astrology was weird and unpresidential, now is the time to set the record straight.

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Its probably beyond your level of comprehension, but when you referred to loony liberals being the only ones who thought poorly of Regan, and you clearly are not a liberal, therefore by logic you are a conservative who approved of Regean. And since Reagan believed in astrology, and since you thought he was so terrific, you clearly didn't have a problem with astrology being a part of Republican politics. If you don't feel that way - if you think Reagan's use of astrology was weird and unpresidential, now is the time to set the record straight.

Wasn't it actually Nancy Reagan who had a personal astrologer? As we all know by now, Ronnie had early stages of Alzheimer during his term and was pretty much out of it sometimes. Nancy "advised" him and Ronnie being a trained Hollywood actor, learned the script from Nancy and went right on acting his way through his term.

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Its probably beyond your level of comprehension, but when you referred to loony liberals being the only ones who thought poorly of Regan, and you clearly are not a liberal, therefore by logic you are a conservative who approved of Regean. And since Reagan believed in astrology, and since you thought he was so terrific, you clearly didn't have a problem with astrology being a part of Republican politics. If you don't feel that way - if you think Reagan's use of astrology was weird and unpresidential, now is the time to set the record straight.

I realize how hard it is for you liberals to admit that Reagan was the best president in history, but try to remember that Reagan was a Christian. Oops, I forgot, that is also a no-no to atheist liberals.

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Wasn't it actually Nancy Reagan who had a personal astrologer? As we all know by now, Ronnie had early stages of Alzheimer during his term and was pretty much out of it sometimes. Nancy "advised" him and Ronnie being a trained Hollywood actor, learned the script from Nancy and went right on acting his way through his term.

Even mentally impaired, Reagan was a better president than Obama.

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Even mentally impaired, Reagan was a better president than Obama.
That says a lot more about you then it does Reagan or Obama.

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Wasn't it actually Nancy Reagan who had a personal astrologer? As we all know by now, Ronnie had early stages of Alzheimer during his term and was pretty much out of it sometimes. Nancy "advised" him and Ronnie being a trained Hollywood actor, learned the script from Nancy and went right on acting his way through his term.

So, it was really President Nancy Reagan. We should revise all the history books.

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So, it was really President Nancy Reagan. We should revise all the history books.

When one has nothing to say that adds value it is usually presented as a feeble attempt at humor or just the usual name calling and denigrating the sublect.

See good example above!