I'm wondering

[virgind]

I have been wondering how many people here take advantage or can take advantage of the food stamp program or SNAP as it is called today. I was thinking why not we worked our butts off for 50 years. Just curious.

[outlaw]

It's supposed to be for "poor" people. Not too many poor people should be able to afford $147/month amenities fee.

[blueash]

What Resources Can I Have (and Still Get SNAP benefits)?

Households may have $2,250 in countable resources, such as a bank account, or $3,250 in countable resources if at least one person is age 60 or older, or is disabled. However, certain resources are NOT counted, such as a home and lot, the resources of people who receive Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the resources of people who receive Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), and most retirement (pension) plans.


If people who do not need the assistance but can weasel the language and their assets in such a way to technically qualify receive SNAP, you have just taken food from those who need help. Perhaps you can also go to the local food banks and be sure to get the last turkey for Thanksgiving depriving a family with no other option of that meal. I hope your OP was intended as humor.

[virgind]

Hey, calm down I just ask a question no need to your knickers wet. The illegals are getting it why not born American citizens. Don't go crazy on me.

[Polar Bear]

Hey, calm down I just ask a question no need to your knickers wet. The illegals are getting it why not born American citizens. Don't go crazy on me.
I agree with the wet-knickers guy. Seems like your standard for right/wrong is...those guys do it so why can't I? :ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

I agree with the wet-knickers guy. Seems like your standard for right/wrong is...those guys do it so why can't I? :ohdear:

Oh, no. This is getting habitual, but I agree with you again.:bigbow:

[redwitch]

There are some in TV who could qualify but would rather go hungry than take advantage of the program. There are some who need it and use it here. Then are those who have found to weasel around everything and take it just because. I'm proud to know some of the first two groups. I won't talk to the last gang.

Just because you can do something doesn't make it the right thing to do and just because others abuse something doesn't make it right for you to do so. And I don't wear knickers but they would certainly be in a bunch right now if I did.

[golfing eagles]

There are some in TV who could qualify but would rather go hungry than take advantage of the program. There are some who need it and use it here. Then are those who have found to weasel around everything and take it just because. I'm proud to know some of the first two groups. I won't talk to the last gang.

Just because you can do something doesn't make it the right thing to do and just because others abuse something doesn't make it right for you to do so. And I don't wear knickers but they would certainly be in a bunch right now if I did.

And then there's a fourth group---those that probably need it, but make ridiculous choices as evidenced by last week:

I was at the fish counter and a lady, maybe 25-30 years old, came up with 5 kids ranging from an infant to 7 or 8 years old. She ordered 9, yes NINE pounds of snow crab clusters at $23.99/pound. Then, at checkout, pulled out the EBT card. Now, I'll admit I can afford 9# of crab if I want it, after working for many years, but I wouldn't spend that kind of money on crab. So why do I have to support her crabs? I think there should be a reasonable list of items that can be bought with other people's money. I'm sure those kids could eat more and for a longer time on $216 of milk, vegetables, fruit, chicken and ground beef.

[Polar Bear]

Oh, no. This is getting habitual, but I agree with you again.:bigbow:
:22yikes: :beer3:

[BobnBev]

And then there's a fourth group---those that probably need it, but make ridiculous choices as evidenced by last week:

I was at the fish counter and a lady, maybe 25-30 years old, came up with 5 kids ranging from an infant to 7 or 8 years old. She ordered 9, yes NINE pounds of snow crab clusters at $23.99/pound. Then, at checkout, pulled out the EBT card. Now, I'll admit I can afford 9# of crab if I want it, after working for many years, but I wouldn't spend that kind of money on crab. So why do I have to support her crabs? I think there should be a reasonable list of items that can be bought with other people's money. I'm sure those kids could eat more and for a longer time on $216 of milk, vegetables, fruit, chicken and ground beef.

For some, more kids = more $$$$$$.......just keep pumpin em out sometimes I think birth control should be mandatory (for some):ohdear:

[redwitch]

And then there's a fourth group---those that probably need it, but make ridiculous choices as evidenced by last week:

I was at the fish counter and a lady, maybe 25-30 years old, came up with 5 kids ranging from an infant to 7 or 8 years old. She ordered 9, yes NINE pounds of snow crab clusters at $23.99/pound. Then, at checkout, pulled out the EBT card. Now, I'll admit I can afford 9# of crab if I want it, after working for many years, but I wouldn't spend that kind of money on crab. So why do I have to support her crabs? I think there should be a reasonable list of items that can be bought with other people's money. I'm sure those kids could eat more and for a longer time on $216 of milk, vegetables, fruit, chicken and ground beef.

Odds are the crabs aren't for her. Frequently, these people will buy something really expensive and then sell it to another individual for half the cost. Sadly, the cash is frequently used for drugs or alcohol. However, there are times the cash is used to buy paper products and cleaning supplies, neither of which is covered by EBT. I get angrier at the individual purchasing the crab legs from those in need than the person selling them. Whether used for drugs or items necessary to live, the one individual needs the cash. The other is simply taking advantage of that need.

I won't begrudge someone on food stamps buying an occasional treat. I remember once a woman standing in line with two small steaks and the old-fashioned food stamps. Of course, someone had to make a comment. The poor woman left the steaks, purchased the necessities with her food stamps, with tears streaming. The gentleman in front of me bought the steaks and gave them to her. Turns out it was her wedding anniversary and this was to be a surprise for her husband. It is easy to judge and condemn but sometimes compassion goes a long way.

I won't comment on the five kids. Here's hoping she was just babysitting to earn some money.

[CWGUY]

:ohdear: Go to EBAY and do a search for baby formula. Almost 4000 listings. I wonder how much was purchased with WIC.

[redwitch]

:ohdear: Go to EBAY and do a search for baby formula. Almost 4000 listings. I wonder how much was purchased with WIC.

The majority were probably shoplifted. It is one of the more common items stolen from grocery stores and off trucks. Check Publix. Their baby formula is now under lock and key.

[CWGUY]

The majority were probably shoplifted. It is one of the more common items stolen from grocery stores and off trucks. Check Publix. Their baby formula is now under lock and key.

Easier to steal from the Government than Publix. :ohdear:

I just got on EBAY, picked one listing clicked on it. The person is located in

Las Vegas, Nevada. Her name on EBAY is SEXYMOM 702 - She has 16 other items for sale..... 7 are infant formula. Some in lots of 5,6, and even 9 large cans. :rolleyes:

[tomwed]

Hey, calm down I just ask a question no need to your knickers wet. The illegals are getting it why not born American citizens. Don't go crazy on me.I think you mean knickers twisted as in "knickers in a twist". I know, too much BBC over the years.

[virgind]

No that is what I meant didnt think anyone would get p***ed for asking a question. I was just wondering.

[fred53]

I have been wondering how many people here take advantage or can take advantage of the food stamp program or SNAP as it is called today. I was thinking why not we worked our butts off for 50 years. Just curious.

and no one whose answered has wet their knickers....then your values are not those of most people who live by "do unto others". Just by asking you're saying that you're "entitled" and by conservative values(most here don't mind hard work or even working two jobs to make ends meet)that sucks.

I don't take what I don't need and because some of my tax monies have gone to feeding the less needy doesn't mean I should benefit from it.

[fred53]

No that is what I meant didnt think anyone would get p***ed for asking a question. I was just wondering.

is you for getting called out. You asked that question because you were hoping to take advantage of a system not designed for your situation in life. I read only people questioning your motive(rightly so)and doing it in a calm manner.

You're BUSTED!

[tomwed]

You see where we live knickers are what Pane Stewart and Alfalfa used to wear. One was respected and the other, not so much. I meant no harm.
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[dbussone]

I think you mean knickers twisted as in "knickers in a twist". I know, too much BBC over the years.


Tom - quite correct. And avoid the "wet twist" under all circumstances.

[jblum315]

I think it's just wrong that needy people can buy formula with food stamps but not diapers or wipes. Next time you donate to a food pantry try to include some paper goods. They are needed

[outlaw]

Too many "poor" people with cell phones and hair appointments.

[Ron_Ski]

Too many "poor" people with cell phones and hair appointments.

I came across an interesting article the other day that stated: "...the typical person in the bottom 5 percent of the American income distribution is still richer than 68 percent of the world’s inhabitants."

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/the-haves-and-the-have-nots/

[outlaw]

I came across an interesting article the other day that stated: "...the typical person in the bottom 5 percent of the American income distribution is still richer than 68 percent of the world’s inhabitants."

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/the-haves-and-the-have-nots/

Maybe the US should require a "weigh in" before a person can get welfare benefits.

[Miles42]

This has stirred a hornets nest LOL. Makes one wonder if intentional.

[Polar Bear]

This has stirred a hornets nest LOL. Makes one wonder if intentional.

Noooooo. Nobody trolls on ToTV!! ;)

[dirtbanker]

i have been wondering how many people here take advantage or can take advantage of the food stamp program or snap as it is called today.

too many!

[Barefoot]

I have been wondering how many people here take advantage or can take advantage of the food stamp program or SNAP as it is called today. I was thinking why not - we worked our butts off for 50 years. Just curious.Why not? Because unless we are truly and honestly in need, most of us feel in our hearts that accepting government assistance is wrong.

[kathygeorge]

Hey just wondering, aren't you glad you asked the question?

[virgind]

Isn't social security government assistance.But anyway lighten up people chill out and all that.

[dbussone]

Isn't social security government assistance.But anyway lighten up people chill out and all that.

I may be alone, but I don't view SS as government assistance. I've paid into SS since I started working part-time in 1963, and full-time since 1965. I would be much better off if the government had let me keep that money and invest it. So when you get right down to it I consider SS assistance TO the government, not FROM the government.

[Walter123]

Isn't social security government assistance.But anyway lighten up people chill out and all that.

SS is government assistance? That's a laugh! LOL.....and all that.

[outlaw]

SS started as a safety net for poor people. It has now morphed into the primary, and in many cases the only, retirement plan for millions of people. I wouldn't call it government assistance, except at the lower income levels, since it is progressive regarding an individual's contributions versus pension payout.

[asianthree]

[QUOTE=redwitch;1198458]There are some in TV who could qualify but would rather go hungry than take advantage of the program. There are some who need it and use it here. Then are those who have found to weasel around everything and take it just because.


Well said

[outlaw]

Isn't social security government assistance.But anyway lighten up people chill out and all that.

It could be you are so sick and tired of the government stealing your hard earned money and giving it to so many fraudsters/thieves, that you are thinking why not try to get some of my money back. From that perspective, I get it! I used to resent people that cheated on their taxes (deducting $500 "worth" of underwear to the Waterfront Mission every year; that kind of stuff). But now, I get it. They are only trying to get some of their stolen, wasted money back. There are soooo many thieves defrauding the government. The latest gig is the SSDI fraud. It's the new permanent unemployment program. A long standing fraud has been the former military disability claim that can net a person tax free income and, in Florida, 100% tax exemption on their primary residence. I have witnessed this fraud several times (people on active duty openly discussing their actions, others bragging about their disability claim). Being retired military, I am particularly disgusted in this scam. So, while many may resent your suggestion or consideration, and others may be appalled that you would even post this question, I can understand your thinking.

[Barefoot]

It could be you are so sick and tired of the government stealing your hard earned money and giving it to so many fraudsters/thieves, that you are thinking why not try to get some of my money back.
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[PattyCakes]

I was a cashier at Publix for several years. I saw several folks do the same thing that Golfing Eagles was writing about. Conversely, I saw many older folks, Villagers like us, purchase meat, dairy, bread, stables and such, and pay with EBT. Takes all kinds, and there are all kinds living here. My conscious would not let me fraudulently use funds intended for others, but to each his own. Just remember that just because you can do it, doesn't make it right. Almighty God sees everything. Let that be your guide.