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Guest
03-26-2016, 10:37 AM
There is a petition online which has NRA support to insist that the GOP convention in Cleveland this summer allow open carry. Ohio is an open carry state. The Quicken arena has a no guns policy but as the petition explains, your second amendment rights can not be denied by the Quicken corporation. Given the level of discord in the party, is it really a good idea to have open carry? Or does it make it more necessary as the petition argues for each attendee to have the right to defend him or herself? Sign the petition
https://www.change.org/p/quicken-loans-arena-allow-open-carry-of-firearms-at-the-quicken-loans-arena-during-the-rnc-convention-in-july-2
From the petition:
This is a direct affront to the Second Amendment and puts all attendees at risk. As the National Rifle Association has made clear, "gun-free zones" such as the Quicken Loans Arena are "the worst and most dangerous of all lies." The NRA, our leading defender of gun rights, has also correctly pointed out that "gun free zones... tell every insane killer in America... (the) safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk." (March 4, 2016 and Dec. 21, 2012)
Cleveland, Ohio is consistently ranked as one of the top ten most dangerous cities in America. By forcing attendees to leave their firearms at home, the RNC and Quicken Loans Arena are putting tens of thousands of people at risk both inside and outside of the convention site.
Guest
03-26-2016, 11:44 AM
There is a petition online which has NRA support to insist that the GOP convention in Cleveland this summer allow open carry. Ohio is an open carry state. The Quicken arena has a no guns policy but as the petition explains, your second amendment rights can not be denied by the Quicken corporation. Given the level of discord in the party, is it really a good idea to have open carry? Or does it make it more necessary as the petition argues for each attendee to have the right to defend him or herself? Sign the petition
https://www.change.org/p/quicken-loans-arena-allow-open-carry-of-firearms-at-the-quicken-loans-arena-during-the-rnc-convention-in-july-2
From the petition:
This is a direct affront to the Second Amendment and puts all attendees at risk. As the National Rifle Association has made clear, "gun-free zones" such as the Quicken Loans Arena are "the worst and most dangerous of all lies." The NRA, our leading defender of gun rights, has also correctly pointed out that "gun free zones... tell every insane killer in America... (the) safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk." (March 4, 2016 and Dec. 21, 2012)
Cleveland, Ohio is consistently ranked as one of the top ten most dangerous cities in America. By forcing attendees to leave their firearms at home, the RNC and Quicken Loans Arena are putting tens of thousands of people at risk both inside and outside of the convention site.
Then don't go.
Guest
03-26-2016, 12:15 PM
Yes, by all means, allow BOTH open and concealed carry at the Republican Clown Convention!!:a040:
Maybe a shootout could even be caught on live television for the entire world to see the insanity of the Republican Clowns.
Guest
03-26-2016, 12:25 PM
Yes, by all means, allow BOTH open and concealed carry at the Republican Clown Convention!!:a040:
Maybe a shootout could even be caught on live television for the entire world to see the insanity of the Republican Clowns.
I'll bring the popcorn for that one. It will be better than the Democratic convention in Chicago in the 60's.
We could set up a betting pool:
For:
1. How many wounded
2. Who brings the biggest gun
3. Number of killed
4. Most important Repub lost
I went to the Women's Final Four several years back. I returned with out a scratch... I'll but you would to. Just make sure your car doesn't backfire in front of a Police Station. That could get you killed.
Guest
03-26-2016, 12:52 PM
I'll bring the popcorn for that one. It will be better than the Democratic convention in Chicago in the 60's.
We could set up a betting pool:
For:
1. How many wounded
2. Who brings the biggest gun
3. Number of killed
4. Most important Repub lost
I went to the Women's Final Four several years back. I returned with out a scratch... I'll but you would to. Just make sure your car doesn't backfire in front of a Police Station. That could get you killed.
In your case, it would be no loss. Just a waste of skin.
Guest
03-26-2016, 09:52 PM
In your case, it would be no loss. Just a waste of skin.
Back at yah!:yuck:
Guest
03-26-2016, 11:09 PM
Real ignorance on display here as to the the types and character of those who carry concealed or open!
Their education is obviously restricted to television and movies.
Guest
03-27-2016, 06:40 AM
Real ignorance on display here as to the the types and character of those who carry concealed or open!
Their education is obviously restricted to television and movies.
Their education is just plain...restricted.
Isn't that what the 2nd Amendment was all about? If the government won't listen to the people, we make them listen? They knew that eventually, absolute power would corrupt absolutely.
Guest
03-27-2016, 07:53 AM
What a wasted thread. The law prohibits entering this place with a concealed weapon, period. Leave it be. If you don't feel safe, then don't go. Watch it on TV. Watch the political establishment attempt to assert control over the wishes of the voters. Nothing new to see. Same as the DNC. Look at their choices. They are in worst shape than we are, so that is somewhat of a comfort.
Guest
03-27-2016, 09:36 AM
I think that the people who pull the strings, the purse strings in this country are in charge. This type of conversation about guns is in their best interest.
I want people to demonstrate but not interrupt anyone's speech. The silent majority needs to be involved.
Who will show up if there is a chance of getting shot? The silent majority has to go to work the next day.
Look at the demonstrations in the past. Didn't they change the course of history?
Guest
03-27-2016, 09:45 AM
I think that the people who pull the strings, the purse strings in this country are in charge. This type of conversation about guns is in their best interest.
I want people to demonstrate but not interrupt anyone's speech. The silent majority needs to be involved.
Who will show up if there is a chance of getting shot? The silent majority has to go to work the next day.
Look at the demonstrations in the past. Didn't they change the course of history?
Let us be clear about one possible mis-conception.
Whether there is open or concealed carry has not more impact on the risk of being shot than whether you wear your tan or yellow golf shirt.
On the other hand being in a gun free zone does have the potential to increase the risk of being shot. About the same as in schools for example.
The emotional/predjudice/inference that always surrounds those who have guns legally stifles reality.
It is what can be expected when the knowledge level is limited to media, movies and television only information base.
Guest
03-27-2016, 10:13 AM
Let us be clear about one possible mis-conception.
Whether there is open or concealed carry has not more impact on the risk of being shot than whether you wear your tan or yellow golf shirt.
On the other hand being in a gun free zone does have the potential to increase the risk of being shot. About the same as in schools for example.
The emotional/predjudice/inference that always surrounds those who have guns legally stifles reality.
It is what can be expected when the knowledge level is limited to media, movies and television only information base.Whether or not your assessment of safety is accurate does not matter.
It is the perception that matters and influences people. For example if open carry is permitted and I walk into a coffee shop and 3 different people are carrying side arms, I'll go to another shop.
I did not say what their gender was, race, how they were dressed, clean cut, religion----all that makes a difference in perception.
Guest
03-27-2016, 10:44 AM
Whether or not your assessment of safety is accurate does not matter.
It is the perception that matters and influences people. For example if open carry is permitted and I walk into a coffee shop and 3 different people are carrying side arms, I'll go to another shop.
I did not say what their gender was, race, how they were dressed, clean cut, religion----all that makes a difference in perception.
You would walk the other way because you are a coward. Nothing personal, just an observation. Because most people that legally carry a weapon are responsible gun owners. In stead of feeling safer in that coffee shop, like you should feel, you are scared that a gun would accidentally go off, injuring you. You obviously do not know how many people in your community carry guns every day that you do not know about. I have carried a gun for many years, professionally and otherwise. No one has every known I was carrying. I have probably walked right past you, possibly more than once. You didn't know, but you should be grateful, because I would have protected you if you ran into trouble. Trouble that you would be unequipped to handle on your own. And instead of protecting your family as you should, people such as myself will hopefully be around to do it for you. A gun is just another tool. Since our country has become more and more lax regarding enforcement and justice, one has to be constantly vigilant regarding personal safety/security. The police are unable to protect you and the best you can hope for is that they are not too busy elsewhere to come and assist with first aid and reporting the incident if it should occur. I have no problem with those that are scared of weapons and do not wish to handle them, but I do have problems with those that want to ban other folks from protecting their families. I find such folks to be seriously selfish.
Regarding the carrying of weapons in a convention. I do not think that it is a good idea, considering the inflammatory nature of the venue. Police and security officers are paid to put up with abusive conflict without resorting to spontaneous violence. Not so for the average civilian. Where most folks are responsible gun owners, if someone was to be threatening them by getting into their face and screaming, that may cause fear and alarm and that person may fear for his safety, which might then lead to a thoughtless act of brandishing a gun. I am not saying that his is common, but it's possible in a heated environment. I can understand why they would not want gun owners to carry in this kind of forum. Just because I could carry concealed in such a place without feeling the need to use it, does not meant that others have my background. If one NEEDS to carry a gun to give them confidence, then they are carrying it for the wrong reason. If you fear attending this function without a gun then you shouldn't be attending. It means that you are not prepared to handle the environment without a confidence bolster.
Guest
03-27-2016, 10:55 AM
You would walk the other way because you are a coward. Nothing personal, just an observation.
I stopped reading at this point. It sounds personal. Wouldn't you agree?
Guest
03-27-2016, 12:56 PM
You would walk the other way because you are a coward. Nothing personal, just an observation. Because most people that legally carry a weapon are responsible gun owners. In stead of feeling safer in that coffee shop, like you should feel, you are scared that a gun would accidentally go off, injuring you. You obviously do not know how many people in your community carry guns every day that you do not know about. I have carried a gun for many years, professionally and otherwise. No one has every known I was carrying. I have probably walked right past you, possibly more than once. You didn't know, but you should be grateful, because I would have protected you if you ran into trouble. Trouble that you would be unequipped to handle on your own. And instead of protecting your family as you should, people such as myself will hopefully be around to do it for you. A gun is just another tool. Since our country has become more and more lax regarding enforcement and justice, one has to be constantly vigilant regarding personal safety/security. The police are unable to protect you and the best you can hope for is that they are not too busy elsewhere to come and assist with first aid and reporting the incident if it should occur. I have no problem with those that are scared of weapons and do not wish to handle them, but I do have problems with those that want to ban other folks from protecting their families. I find such folks to be seriously selfish.
Regarding the carrying of weapons in a convention. I do not think that it is a good idea, considering the inflammatory nature of the venue. Police and security officers are paid to put up with abusive conflict without resorting to spontaneous violence. Not so for the average civilian. Where most folks are responsible gun owners, if someone was to be threatening them by getting into their face and screaming, that may cause fear and alarm and that person may fear for his safety, which might then lead to a thoughtless act of brandishing a gun. I am not saying that his is common, but it's possible in a heated environment. I can understand why they would not want gun owners to carry in this kind of forum. Just because I could carry concealed in such a place without feeling the need to use it, does not meant that others have my background. If one NEEDS to carry a gun to give them confidence, then they are carrying it for the wrong reason. If you fear attending this function without a gun then you shouldn't be attending. It means that you are not prepared to handle the environment without a confidence bolster.
All the ill informed have to remember is in an open carry and concealed carry environment those that do are your protectors if/when ever needed.
To each his own in their beief. My constant mission is to inform as often as it takes to inform as often as it takes that those who legally carry are not ever the problem (and yes there are ISOLATED incidences in everything).
Unfortunately as I have said many times most who are against guns (that is their right) are ill informed or un-informed....not negative commentary...just the facts of the matter.
You might be interested to learn that in open carry states only a very small number do. As was stated above you not knowing are around legally liscenced concealed carry people every day.
The movies the media and television are not good basis for understanding gun use.
Guest
03-27-2016, 02:00 PM
Why not have open carry or concealed carry - either one - at professional and college sports events?
Let the Republican Clown Convention delegates carry guns as well as the candidates. Should make for interesting world headlines as gunfights break out.
Guest
03-27-2016, 02:05 PM
Let us be clear about one possible mis-conception.
Whether there is open or concealed carry has not more impact on the risk of being shot than whether you wear your tan or yellow golf shirt.
On the other hand being in a gun free zone does have the potential to increase the risk of being shot. About the same as in schools for example.
The emotional/predjudice/inference that always surrounds those who have guns legally stifles reality.
It is what can be expected when the knowledge level is limited to media, movies and television only information base.
I have lived in a gun free zone all of my 65 years. Only once did a scared little white man pull a gun on me. I followed him home and reported him to the police. He spent the weekend in jail.
I went to the Women's Final Four in that arena, UCONN, wasn't even then.. I wasn't hurt nor shot at.
To me the only thing you fear are the rest of the people in the building.
Guest
03-27-2016, 04:56 PM
Thousands sign satirical petition to allow guns at Republican Convention
Technically Incorrect: An online petition on Change.org claims that constitutional rights are being denied to those who want to bring a gun to the fight for the Republican Party's future. Except the petition is surely humorous.
Thousands sign satirical petition to allow guns at Republican Convention - CNET (http://www.cnet.com/news/25000-sign-satirical-petition-to-allow-guns-at-republican-convention/)
Guest
03-27-2016, 05:48 PM
Thousands sign satirical petition to allow guns at Republican Convention
Technically Incorrect: An online petition on Change.org claims that constitutional rights are being denied to those who want to bring a gun to the fight for the Republican Party's future. Except the petition is surely humorous.
Thousands sign satirical petition to allow guns at Republican Convention - CNET (http://www.cnet.com/news/25000-sign-satirical-petition-to-allow-guns-at-republican-convention/)
Hypernationalist on twitter is taking responsibility for this petition.
Take a look at their twitter account. https://twitter.com/hyperationalist?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Guest
03-27-2016, 06:06 PM
I stopped reading at this point. It sounds personal. Wouldn't you agree?
If you are sensitive, I am sorry for you. You probably shouldn't own a weapon or any sharp objects. I hope that doesn't sound personal. chilout
Guest
03-27-2016, 06:41 PM
You would walk the other way because you are a coward. Nothing personal, just an observation. Because most people that legally carry a weapon are responsible gun owners. In stead of feeling safer in that coffee shop, like you should feel, you are scared that a gun would accidentally go off, injuring you. You obviously do not know how many people in your community carry guns every day that you do not know about. I have carried a gun for many years, professionally and otherwise. No one has every known I was carrying. I have probably walked right past you, possibly more than once. You didn't know, but you should be grateful, because I would have protected you if you ran into trouble. Trouble that you would be unequipped to handle on your own. And instead of protecting your family as you should, people such as myself will hopefully be around to do it for you. A gun is just another tool. Since our country has become more and more lax regarding enforcement and justice, one has to be constantly vigilant regarding personal safety/security. The police are unable to protect you and the best you can hope for is that they are not too busy elsewhere to come and assist with first aid and reporting the incident if it should occur. I have no problem with those that are scared of weapons and do not wish to handle them, but I do have problems with those that want to ban other folks from protecting their families. I find such folks to be seriously selfish.
Regarding the carrying of weapons in a convention. I do not think that it is a good idea, considering the inflammatory nature of the venue. Police and security officers are paid to put up with abusive conflict without resorting to spontaneous violence. Not so for the average civilian. Where most folks are responsible gun owners, if someone was to be threatening them by getting into their face and screaming, that may cause fear and alarm and that person may fear for his safety, which might then lead to a thoughtless act of brandishing a gun. I am not saying that his is common, but it's possible in a heated environment. I can understand why they would not want gun owners to carry in this kind of forum. Just because I could carry concealed in such a place without feeling the need to use it, does not meant that others have my background. If one NEEDS to carry a gun to give them confidence, then they are carrying it for the wrong reason. If you fear attending this function without a gun then you shouldn't be attending. It means that you are not prepared to handle the environment without a confidence bolster.
You definitely have a size of manhood complex when you talk of carrying a gun and calling those that do not wish to do it "cowards". If you would care to step out from in back of your keyboard and call me a coward face to face, name the venue. Otherwise, apologize to your betters and keep quiet.
Guest
03-28-2016, 03:36 AM
You definitely have a size of manhood complex when you talk of carrying a gun and calling those that do not wish to do it "cowards". If you would care to step out from in back of your keyboard and call me a coward face to face, name the venue. Otherwise, apologize to your betters and keep quiet.
You allow your fear to direct your actions and you wish someone to apologize to you for pointing it out? And then you want to compare the size of your "manhood" with that poster? Sounds like you have issues.
Guest
03-28-2016, 09:32 AM
I can just see it, trump and cruz supporters, boozed up, pulling their guns and settling the issue repub style at the convention. lol
Guest
03-28-2016, 09:38 AM
I can just see it, trump and cruz supporters, boozed up, pulling their guns and settling the issue repub style at the convention. lol
That is what a limited knowledge/education based on media, movies and television only produces. Unreal world of fantasy and complete lack of understanding and respect for the law abiding that elect to carry a gun!!!!
Guest
03-28-2016, 09:40 AM
Not worth a response to one's fantasy of a movie wild west scenario.
Out in LEFT field.
Guest
03-28-2016, 10:28 AM
Speaking on ABC News’s This Week on Sunday, Trump said he wants to “study the fine print” of the petition and said he hasn’t yet read it. He also referred to himself as “a very, very strong person for [the] Second Amendment.”
He's getting more PC everyday. He doesn't want to loose any votes.
Guest
03-28-2016, 10:29 AM
I can just see it, trump and cruz supporters, boozed up, pulling their guns and settling the issue repub style at the convention. lol
Yes, I can see it........not! But, I can see liberals at the DNC convention pulling hair and biting each other in their cat fights. Someone might get real mean and slap someone. I bet to really insult each other they will call them names like, "you big meanie conservative", or "your mother works for a living", or "your parents were right wing fanatics." It will probably be totally out of control by the end of the night.
Guest
03-28-2016, 10:30 AM
Speaking on ABC News’s This Week on Sunday, Trump said he wants to “study the fine print” of the petition and said he hasn’t yet read it. He also referred to himself as “a very, very strong person for [the] Second Amendment.”
He's getting more PC everyday. He doesn't want to loose any votes.
He is merely pretending at playing politics not PC at all.
Guest
03-28-2016, 10:41 AM
He is merely pretending at playing politics not PC at all.
Who cares? He only upsets the libtards, and they don't count anyway. They will vote for a criminal or a socialist. They are idiots that have never had to sacrifice for their country or probably even have to work a hard job.
Guest
03-28-2016, 10:48 AM
He is merely pretending at playing politics not PC at all.
Political correctness (adjectivally: politically correct), commonly abbreviated to PC,[1] is a term which, in modern usage, is used to describe language, policies, or measures which are intended not to offend or disadvantage any particular group of people in society.
His answer sounds mighty PC to me. A bit like the David Dukes answer. He needs a little time to think about it.
Guest
03-28-2016, 11:00 AM
Political correctness (adjectivally: politically correct), commonly abbreviated to PC,[1] is a term which, in modern usage, is used to describe language, policies, or measures which are intended not to offend or disadvantage any particular group of people in society.
His answer sounds mighty PC to me. A bit like the David Dukes answer. He needs a little time to think about it.
Still, he is not a socialist. He has that over the left.
Guest
03-28-2016, 11:08 AM
Still, he is not a socialist. He has that over the left.
"Still" That's close enough to admitting you were wrong.
I've also been wrong before in the threads and each time, it I apologized.
Guest
03-28-2016, 11:11 AM
"Still" That's close enough to admitting you were wrong.
I've also been wrong before in the threads and each time, it I apologized.
Where was I wrong? What statement do you think that I made, that requires an apology? Did I call you retarded or an idiot? If so, I probably had good reason.
Guest
03-28-2016, 11:19 AM
Where was I wrong? What statement do you think that I made, that requires an apology? Did I call you retarded or an idiot? If so, I probably had good reason.
When you say "Still" that means you agree with my statement that Trump is being PC. In the previous post you didn't think so because you didn't understand what PC means. We're all human. We all make mistakes.
Guest
03-28-2016, 11:28 AM
When you say "Still" that means you agree with my statement that Trump is being PC. In the previous post you didn't think so because you didn't understand what PC means. We're all human. We all make mistakes.
Forget all that I wrote. This is a waste of time, you were right and i was wrong, Bernie is a democratic socialist by his own definition.
We agree.
I'm going to look for something interesting.
Guest
03-28-2016, 02:31 PM
When you say "Still" that means you agree with my statement that Trump is being PC. In the previous post you didn't think so because you didn't understand what PC means. We're all human. We all make mistakes.
I think you mistakenly thought that other post originated with me. Not my post. But, if it strokes your ego to have someone apologize to you, then so be it. You need the boost more than I do.
Guest
03-28-2016, 08:36 PM
Back to the start of this thread....
NO GUNS ALLOWED AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION
Secret Service says NO!!!!!
Thousands Petition To Allow Guns At Republican Convention For 'Safety' [UPDATE] (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-convention-guns-petition_us_56f70018e4b014d3fe234d28)
Guest
03-28-2016, 10:23 PM
Back to the start of this thread....
NO GUNS ALLOWED AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION
Secret Service says NO!!!!!
Thousands Petition To Allow Guns At Republican Convention For 'Safety' [UPDATE] (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-convention-guns-petition_us_56f70018e4b014d3fe234d28)
Why not disarm the Secret Service at the convention and allow everyone else to carry? Should make for good television!
Guest
03-29-2016, 05:08 AM
Just charge everyone a thousand bucks to get in. Then there won't be any liberal agitators because someone would have to pay their way before they would get in. After all, liberals are needy. Without liberal agitators, there won't be any trouble.
Of course, they couldn't have picked a crappier city as venue. D.C. would be a close second, as the worst possible location.
Guest
03-29-2016, 06:15 AM
You allow your fear to direct your actions and you wish someone to apologize to you for pointing it out? And then you want to compare the size of your "manhood" with that poster? Sounds like you have issues.
I'm sure you noticed he wouldn't call him a coward to his face. Who's really the coward?
Guest
03-29-2016, 06:17 AM
Still, he is not a socialist. He has that over the left.
Pal, do you even know what a democratic socialist is? I didn't think so. At least this post isn't quite as silly as the typical republican who call Bernie a communist! Sad really.
Guest
03-29-2016, 06:39 AM
Pal, do you even know what a democratic socialist is? I didn't think so. At least this post isn't quite as silly as the typical republican who call Bernie a communist! Sad really.
He might as well be a communist. He fits most of the traits. But, keep denying it. The Nazis also used the word "democrat" in their label. Socialism is Anti-American. If you want Europe, then move to Europe. But we have the best country in the world, so we have no reason to copy a failed system like Europe's.
Guest
03-29-2016, 06:45 AM
He might as well be a communist. He fits most of the traits. But, keep denying it. The Nazis also used the word "democrat" in their label. Socialism is Anti-American. If you want Europe, then move to Europe. But we have the best country in the world, so we have no reason to copy a failed system like Europe's.
Our system has failed too...they just cover it up with lies. We peaked in the 50s. All we have now is lots of toys, no substance.
Guest
03-29-2016, 07:10 AM
Just charge everyone a thousand bucks to get in. Then there won't be any liberal agitators because someone would have to pay their way before they would get in. After all, liberals are needy. Without liberal agitators, there won't be any trouble.
Of course, they couldn't have picked a crappier city as venue. D.C. would be a close second, as the worst possible location.
Is not this a private convention? Any demonstrators would be outside the building. The Secret Service and various other governmental organizations should be able to keep the various Republicans safe. Put in the National Guard if there is some serious threat to people at the convention from forces outside the building.
Guest
03-29-2016, 07:34 AM
Pal, do you even know what a democratic socialist is? I didn't think so. At least this post isn't quite as silly as the typical republican who call Bernie a communist! Sad really.
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Guest
03-29-2016, 07:46 AM
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He's an idiot that lives in the '60s like a hippy. Income redistribution is his theme. He even says so in that video. He uses countries that are failing as examples of the great socialism. He is a freak and stupid. He makes believe that he is an old experienced professor, but in reality you can get more credible information from a homeless, dumpster diver. No one could possibly take that old freak seriously......other than school kids that have had a poor education.
Guest
03-29-2016, 07:57 AM
Back to the start of this thread....
NO GUNS ALLOWED AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION
Secret Service says NO!!!!!
Thousands Petition To Allow Guns At Republican Convention For 'Safety' [UPDATE] (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-convention-guns-petition_us_56f70018e4b014d3fe234d28)
Drat. The Secret Service just killed the fun.
Guest
03-29-2016, 08:09 AM
Drat. The Secret Service just killed the fun.
The SS (think about those initials for a moment), overrides the Constitution?
The RIGHT shall not be infringed!
Guest
03-29-2016, 08:24 AM
Get over it. If you feel so insecure that you need a crutch before attending the convention, then take a anti-depressant and stay home. Who would want to travel further North than Georgia anyway? Actually, who would want to travel to Georgia? Point is, watch it on TV or the Internet.
Guest
03-29-2016, 09:54 AM
He's an idiot that lives in the '60s like a hippy. Income redistribution is his theme. He even says so in that video. He uses countries that are failing as examples of the great socialism. He is a freak and stupid. He makes believe that he is an old experienced professor, but in reality you can get more credible information from a homeless, dumpster diver. No one could possibly take that old freak seriously......other than school kids that have had a poor education.
Strange how the "idiot" can with ease turn the vote in his direction.
He is running against the irrepairable, felon, liar Clinton.
The loyal dems have only Bernie as a choice.
The other dems who dislike felons or socialists will, like it or not, vote republican. Any republican is better than either current democratic candidate.
So let us just watch how the "idiot" and the "felon" progress.
Guest
03-29-2016, 10:58 AM
Strange how the "idiot" can with ease turn the vote in his direction.
He is running against the irrepairable, felon, liar Clinton.
The loyal dems have only Bernie as a choice.
The other dems who dislike felons or socialists will, like it or not, vote republican. Any republican is better than either current democratic candidate.
So let us just watch how the "idiot" and the "felon" progress.
And as the piper plays
Guest
03-29-2016, 11:33 AM
Off topic Alert:
Watch this:
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We are all a doctor's visit from bad news and being broke. We are not multi -billionaires.
I don't think Bernie is lining his pockets. His kids will inherit nothing. The best he can do is share his ideals. Try to listen for your grandchildren.
Our parents and you and me have had wonderful lives because of FDR. Please don't call FDR traitor as you collect your checks and enjoyed lives when America was great. This is what he gave us:
social security
minimum wage
unemployment insurance
abolishing child labor [8,10, 12 yr olds were working in the fields and factories]
the forty hour work week
collective bargaining for unions
strong banking regulations
deposit insurance in banks [don't hide your money in you mattress, it's safe]
job programs
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