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Guest
03-31-2016, 11:06 AM
Question for Trump supporters:

Is there anything Trump could do or say that would force you to change your mind and switch your support to Cruz? Proof he was a child molester? Proof he had no knowledge of geography, you know, like George Bush or Sarah Palin?

Guest
03-31-2016, 11:28 AM
That's a great question. Trump says he could shoot somebody and not lose support.
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Here's my question to Trum supporters:
Instead of a debate I would like to see the candidates sequestered. I would a group of professors from leading institutions to ask pointed questions about to discover the background knowledge on geography, economics, world events, history and opinions on court cases.
Next the candidates would read their essays out loud and everyone could download their answers.
We know how they think on their feet and see their oration skills. We need to know how smart they actually are.
Do you think Trump supporters would help support this new type of vetting?

Guest
03-31-2016, 11:29 AM
Question for Trump supporters:

Is there anything Trump could do or say that would force you to change your mind and switch your support to Cruz? Proof he was a child molester? Proof he had no knowledge of geography, you know, like George Bush or Sarah Palin?

The primary for Florida is already over. How can someone change now? Hint, I did not vote for Trump, Hillary or Sanders. But, when the general comes around in Nov, I'll be voting for whichever Republican candidate wins the nomination, or gets the nomination if the delegates make the decision. There is no way in bloody h3ll that I would vote for Hillary or Sanders. I would consider that to be treason.

Guest
03-31-2016, 11:32 AM
That's a great question. Trump says he could shoot somebody and not lose support.
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Here's my question to Trump supporters:
Instead of a debate I would like to see the candidates sequestered. I would put together a group of professors from leading institutions to ask pointed questions about background knowledge on geography, economics, world events, history including opinions on court cases.
Next the candidates would read their essays out loud and everyone could download their answers and read along.
We know how they think on their feet and see their oration skills. We need to know how smart they actually are.
Do you think Trump supporters would help support this new type of vetting?
I pushed enter too soon. I didn't proof read it very well. thanks for understanding
It would be interesting to see how the current and past presidents would do on these questions too.

Guest
03-31-2016, 11:34 AM
That's a great question. Trump says he could shoot somebody and not lose support.
v=EzMHJbAtndI
Here's my question to Trum supporters:
Instead of a debate I would like to see the candidates sequestered. I would a group of professors from leading institutions to ask pointed questions about to discover the background knowledge on geography, economics, world events, history and opinions on court cases.
Next the candidates would read their essays out loud and everyone could download their answers.
We know how they think on their feet and see their oration skills. We need to know how smart they actually are.
Do you think Trump supporters would help support this new type of vetting?

So, what you want is to elect a professor as president. We already have a wannabe professor in there. A professor in claim only. And you don't have any problem with his geography knowledge. 57 States doesn't say much for his knowledge of our country. Of course, he seems to have a good grasp of the Muslim countries. That should tell you something.

Perhaps you would wish that a candidate first graduate from a presidential career course? The problem with that is that there is no such prerequisite in the Constitution stipulating these type of requirements. All you need to worry about is whether or not he gets enough electoral votes. It doesn't even have to be a popular vote majority.

Guest
03-31-2016, 11:38 AM
Here's a question for you. What would it take for you to switch your support from Hillary? Would an indictment be enough? Would she have to be incarcerated? If she was found guilty of tax fraud, would that convince you?

Guest
03-31-2016, 11:46 AM
The primary for Florida is already over. How can someone change now? Hint, I did not vote for Trump, Hillary or Sanders. But, when the general comes around in Nov, I'll be voting for whichever Republican candidate wins the nomination, or gets the nomination if the delegates make the decision. There is no way in bloody h3ll that I would vote for Hillary or Sanders. I would consider that to be treason.
Is there anything Trump could do or say that would force you to change your mind

the answer is no?

Guest
03-31-2016, 11:48 AM
Here's a question for you. What would it take for you to switch your support from Hillary? Would an indictment be enough? Would she have to be incarcerated? If she was found guilty of tax fraud, would that convince you?
Is there anything Trump could do or say that would force you to change your mind

the answer is no?

Guest
03-31-2016, 12:01 PM
Is there anything Trump could do or say that would force you to change your mind

the answer is no?

Kind of hard to change your vote after already casting it. Of course, I am not a liberal so I am not allowed to vote twice.

Guest
03-31-2016, 12:10 PM
That's a great question. Trump says he could shoot somebody and not lose support.
v=EzMHJbAtndI
Here's my question to Trum supporters:
Instead of a debate I would like to see the candidates sequestered. I would a group of professors from leading institutions to ask pointed questions about to discover the background knowledge on geography, economics, world events, history and opinions on court cases.
Next the candidates would read their essays out loud and everyone could download their answers.
We know how they think on their feet and see their oration skills. We need to know how smart they actually are.
Do you think Trump supporters would help support this new type of vetting?

Now you know that is not fair....and you are just poking a stick at the badger....right?
We all know that Sanders and for sure Clinton would fail.
We also know that Obama would not have made it to the nomination.

The choices these days are very simple.
If any voter wants the establishment, the beurocracy, the cronyism ejected from Washington it must start with electing a non political, non insider, anti establishment, non beholding person to be president.

All others are nothing more than a continuation of the cronyism and political beurocracy and bloat that is the establishment of today....that being both R & D.

So the choices shake out pretty simply given the above.

Guest
03-31-2016, 12:21 PM
Tell you what, if you can find a liberal that does NOT believe in genderless bathrooms, then I will vote for them. If you can find me a liberal candidate that believes in balancing the budget, I will consider voting for them. If you can find me a liberal that believes that it is a good thing, not evil to be wealthy, then I will consider voting for them. And if you can find me a liberal that does not believe in man being the culprit in global warming, I will consider voting for them. Put all those traits together and you will have the perfect Democrat candidate.
Otherwise, I will continue to vote for the Republican and hope for the best.

Guest
03-31-2016, 03:02 PM
Here's a question for you. What would it take for you to switch your support from Hillary? Would an indictment be enough? Would she have to be incarcerated? If she was found guilty of tax fraud, would that convince you?
Start a new thread and I'll answer your question.

Guest
03-31-2016, 03:03 PM
Just yesterday Trump said he would consider using nuclear weapons against European countries and any woman who had an abortion should be charged with a crime. Is there any group of people he has not offended?

Guest
03-31-2016, 03:03 PM
Tell you what, if you can find a liberal that does NOT believe in genderless bathrooms, then I will vote for them. If you can find me a liberal candidate that believes in balancing the budget, I will consider voting for them. If you can find me a liberal that believes that it is a good thing, not evil to be wealthy, then I will consider voting for them. And if you can find me a liberal that does not believe in man being the culprit in global warming, I will consider voting for them. Put all those traits together and you will have the perfect Democrat candidate.
Otherwise, I will continue to vote for the Republican and hope for the best.Does that mean you are open minded?

Guest
03-31-2016, 03:20 PM
Just yesterday Trump said he would consider using nuclear weapons against European countries and any woman who had an abortion should be charged with a crime. Is there any group of people he has not offended?
As far as the nuclear option he said that you should take nothing off the table, because circumstances can change drastically. OK I'll give him that. Concerning the abortion crime charge it was a huge blunder, and all the walking back can't undo the damage.

Guest
03-31-2016, 03:39 PM
As far as the nuclear option he said that you should take nothing off the table, because circumstances can change drastically. OK I'll give him that. Concerning the abortion crime charge it was a huge blunder, and all the walking back can't undo the damage.

How about his suggestion that we help arm Japan and South Korea with nuclear weapons so they can defend themselves against North Korea !!

Guest
03-31-2016, 03:49 PM
As far as the nuclear option he said that you should take nothing off the table, because circumstances can change drastically. OK I'll give him that. Concerning the abortion crime charge it was a huge blunder, and all the walking back can't undo the damage.He also said he was against support from white supremacists. The follow up question was, are you saying you don't want their votes? His answer was "I don't want their votes. Besides I don't need their votes." Do votes matter more then convictions?

His opinion about white supremacy and abortion and a thousand other things can evolve over the years. But if it changes by the day, something is wrong.

Maybe that's the first thing you learn about politics. But he's not running for student council.

Guest
03-31-2016, 05:26 PM
So, what you want is to elect a professor as president. We already have a wannabe professor in there. A professor in claim only. And you don't have any problem with his geography knowledge. 57 States doesn't say much for his knowledge of our country. Of course, he seems to have a good grasp of the Muslim countries. That should tell you something.

Perhaps you would wish that a candidate first graduate from a presidential career course? The problem with that is that there is no such prerequisite in the Constitution stipulating these type of requirements. All you need to worry about is whether or not he gets enough electoral votes. It doesn't even have to be a popular vote majority.

There you go..... a true Trump supporter. Do you know how educated people (even republican educated people) think you are a total idiot? Stop embarrassing yourself. It's sad.

Guest
03-31-2016, 05:30 PM
How about his suggestion that we help arm Japan and South Korea with nuclear weapons so they can defend themselves against North Korea !!

Why not, Obama is helping to arm Iran?

Guest
03-31-2016, 05:31 PM
Here's a question for you. What would it take for you to switch your support from Hillary? Would an indictment be enough? Would she have to be incarcerated? If she was found guilty of tax fraud, would that convince you?

Yes, a conviction or incarceration would make me switch my vote. However, you and I both know if Clinton is not indicted or incarcerated you'll make an excuse. (Obama is protecting her etc). You know, as I do, she's not going to be indicted but it'll not end there. Kind of like Bengazi, white water and all the other made up scandals republicans have come up with.

Guest
03-31-2016, 05:43 PM
Tell you what, if you can find a liberal that does NOT believe in genderless bathrooms, then I will vote for them. Do you have bathroom issues? Funny how this is your top priority. If you can find me a liberal candidate that believes in balancing the budget, I will consider voting for them. If you can find me a liberal that believes that it is a good thing, not evil to be wealthy, then I will consider voting for them (how silly. No one says being wealthy is a bad thing. The problem is how republicans cater to them and give them breaks you and I don't get. ). And if you can find me a liberal that does not believe in man being the culprit in global warming, I will consider voting for them. (if you can find me a scientist, and I know you don't like science, that doesn't think man is part of the problem I'll vote for them) Put all those traits together and you will have the perfect Democrat candidate.
Otherwise, I will continue to vote for the Republican and hope for the best.

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Guest
03-31-2016, 05:45 PM
Does that mean you are open minded?

This clown is as open minded as Fox News tells him to be.

Guest
03-31-2016, 06:06 PM
Yes, a conviction or incarceration would make me switch my vote. However, you and I both know if Clinton is not indicted or incarcerated you'll make an excuse. (Obama is protecting her etc). You know, as I do, she's not going to be indicted but it'll not end there. Kind of like Bengazi, white water and all the other made up scandals republicans have come up with.

Well put...today there was another Repub post saying Whitewater may be brought up yet again.

This will NEVER stop!

Guest
03-31-2016, 06:12 PM
This clown is as open minded as Fox News tells him to be.

It is so obvious when some people are let out for thier daily airing!!

Guest
03-31-2016, 10:14 PM
Well put...today there was another Repub post saying Whitewater may be brought up yet again.

This will NEVER stop!

Hillary IS guilty regardless of the corrupt system that may allow her a pass. Anyone that has ever worked for the State Dept or even classified information, KNOWS that she is guilty. It is going to be interesting to see how many people that got fired for mishandling on a small degree turn around and sue the gov when she walks. They will all get back pay and their possible missed promotions. The gov will be paying out big bucks for letting her slide on her felonies. No one has ever been as guilty as her in blatantly mishandling and improperly destroying classified information. She may get off, but she is still guilty. And you can call it a Republican conspiracy all you want, but you will just be making a fool of yourself, because no one is going to believe her, unless they are total fools. Americans can be fooled by they are not stupid.

Guest
03-31-2016, 11:06 PM
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Same to you. You proved his/her point.

Guest
03-31-2016, 11:55 PM
Hillary IS guilty regardless of the corrupt system that may allow her a pass. Anyone that has ever worked for the State Dept or even classified information, KNOWS that she is guilty. It is going to be interesting to see how many people that got fired for mishandling on a small degree turn around and sue the gov when she walks. They will all get back pay and their possible missed promotions. The gov will be paying out big bucks for letting her slide on her felonies. No one has ever been as guilty as her in blatantly mishandling and improperly destroying classified information. She may get off, but she is still guilty. And you can call it a Republican conspiracy all you want, but you will just be making a fool of yourself, because no one is going to believe her, unless they are total fools. Americans can be fooled by they are not stupid.

Some Americans are stupid. You just proved it.

Guest
04-01-2016, 02:30 AM
Donald Trump Made Up Stuff 71 Times In An Hour (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_us_56fc375fe4b0daf53aee9175)

Guest
04-01-2016, 03:47 AM
Some Americans are stupid. You just proved it.

Don't be so hard on yourself. After all, it's not your fault that you have no one else to support in your party, but a washed up old criminal, liar and thief. Remember, you still have that older perverted commie that you can fall back to, when Hilllary gets indicted.

Guest
04-01-2016, 05:37 AM
So, what you want is to elect a professor as president. We already have a wannabe professor in there. A professor in claim only. And you don't have any problem with his geography knowledge. 57 States doesn't say much for his knowledge of our country. Of course, he seems to have a good grasp of the Muslim countries. That should tell you something.

Perhaps you would wish that a candidate first graduate from a presidential career course? The problem with that is that there is no such prerequisite in the Constitution stipulating these type of requirements. All you need to worry about is whether or not he gets enough electoral votes. It doesn't even have to be a popular vote majority.

Dear Guest: If your comments are meant to say that Obama's reference to 57 states was not a mistake you are correct. Where Obama went wrong was that he confused the United States with the 57 Arab States, something he would be more familiar.

For a law professor who studied Constitutional law you would believe he would show more reference toward the U.S.Constitution but instead he has repeatedly shown disrespect. I guess perhaps like many progressives indoctrinated in the liberal bastions we call Universities he too was taught to hate old white men.

I look forward to the Republican Convention because we are indeed living in a unique political period that is testing our legal and political systems. Let's be united in our desire that our fundamental laws prevail for the sake of all our futures

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
04-01-2016, 06:58 AM
Donald Trump Made Up Stuff 71 Times In An Hour (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_us_56fc375fe4b0daf53aee9175)

Great linking.

Guest
04-01-2016, 07:37 AM
Donald Trump Made Up Stuff 71 Times In An Hour (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_us_56fc375fe4b0daf53aee9175)

Huffington Post???? Ha, ha, ha, ha.......funny.

How many times has Clinton lied and liberals don't care or are in denial? We don't have enough space to list them all. Well, at least he hasn't yet put our national security at risk, left his employees to die, lie about it or steal gov property. We won't mention Clinton's being investigated for tax evasion, because we don't know about Trumps taxes yet. But, all in all, we know how the scale tips if we decide to compare flaws.

The Florida primary is already finished so if you are trying to convince someone not to vote for Trump, you are a bit late. If you are worried about the general election, then you might want to wait for the nominations before getting into a panic.

Guest
04-01-2016, 09:20 AM
Great linking.

You don't get it do you?

He is practicing being a politician.

He will not live long enough to ever achieve a lying and deception rate of the likes of Clinton or Obama.

Guest
04-01-2016, 09:24 AM
Huffington Post???? Ha, ha, ha, ha.......funny.

How many times has Clinton lied and liberals don't care or are in denial? We don't have enough space to list them all. Well, at least he hasn't yet put our national security at risk, left his employees to die, lie about it or steal gov property. We won't mention Clinton's being investigated for tax evasion, because we don't know about Trumps taxes yet. But, all in all, we know how the scale tips if we decide to compare flaws.

The Florida primary is already finished so if you are trying to convince someone not to vote for Trump, you are a bit late. If you are worried about the general election, then you might want to wait for the nominations before getting into a panic.

What does the source have to do with it? If Fox tells the facts then I am interested in what they have to report about. They do source these lies of Donald Trump and he does lie frequently with no thought of any consequences. I cannot think of ANY politician ever who has done this with such aplomb.

Guest
04-01-2016, 09:42 AM
What does the source have to do with it? If Fox tells the facts then I am interested in what they have to report about. They do source these lies of Donald Trump and he does lie frequently with no thought of any consequences. I cannot think of ANY politician ever who has done this with such aplomb.

Trump doesn't lie. He just gives a different version of the truth.
All joking aside, he flies by the seat of his pants. In his mind, he probably thinks what he is saying is the truth. Every misstatement isn't a lie. Lie is a strong word, and everyone in the current state of politics is using it to discredit their opponent.

Sanders knows that the programs he is throwing out there will never become law. Does that make him a liar?

The same holds true with Trump's statement that he will deport all illegal aliens? That is not going to happen. So, he is lying!

Illegal aliens is no longer what they are. They are non-citizens. So, breaking the law isn't illegal.

Guest
04-01-2016, 10:15 AM
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Clinton is my enemy, therefore Trump will have to suffice. If he gets the nomination in spite of the RNC's attempt to keep that from happening, he will get my vote. After all, he will be fighting the establishment to the extent that it is practically a one man army fighting a Goliath of a political system. I don't like him, but he will do for four years. Much better than allowing our country to look bad by electing a criminal, liar and thief....Hillary.

Guest
04-01-2016, 10:36 AM
What does the source have to do with it? If Fox tells the facts then I am interested in what they have to report about. They do source these lies of Donald Trump and he does lie frequently with no thought of any consequences. I cannot think of ANY politician ever who has done this with such aplomb.

Where you live there must be no external communications or live presentation of anything taking place in the world.

However if we take the statement as a compliment then perhaps it is a credible statement.

Trump does it with aplomb and the politicians just continually do it with reckless abandon and disrespect.

Guest
04-01-2016, 11:04 AM
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Says the guy about to be slaughtered...

Where you live there must be no external communications or live presentation of anything taking place in the world.



You mean the propaganda put out by the media? You're LESS informed by watching their lies. You're being led...

Guest
04-01-2016, 11:42 AM
Says the guy about to be slaughtered...



You mean the propaganda put out by the media? You're LESS informed by watching their lies. You're being led...

Yes, of course. You must have quite an acid trip going there. Paranoid much?

Guest
04-01-2016, 12:38 PM
Yes, of course. You must have quite an acid trip going there. Paranoid much?

Yes, I'm paranoid because I don't think the media is truthful.

Who cuts your meat?

Guest
04-01-2016, 01:42 PM
Yes, I'm paranoid because I don't think the media is truthful.

Who cuts your meat?

So, you don't watch TV. You believe all media is lying to you. And yet, you believe your libertarian politician. If that is not ironic, what is? How long have you been living in your bomb shelter?

Guest
04-02-2016, 02:12 PM
You don't get it do you?

He is practicing being a politician.

He will not live long enough to ever achieve a lying and deception rate of the likes of Clinton or Obama.
Let him run for student council. As leader of the free world he could get half the earth in a nuclear war. He'll be in some safe place saying "We won".

Guest
04-02-2016, 04:58 PM
Please tell me what's Trump position on the issue of Right to Life. I'll give you 10 minutes to answer before he changes it.

Guest
04-02-2016, 07:10 PM
After reading all the repub posts here, I can see why the repubs are the minority party. There is no party, only in name, you are fragmented and in complete disarray. Say hello to President Hillary Clinton.

Guest
04-03-2016, 08:36 AM
After reading all the repub posts here, I can see why the repubs are the minority party. There is no party, only in name, you are fragmented and in complete disarray. Say hello to President Hillary Clinton.

Say hello to the mafia boss, same as the present king of czars.

Guest
04-03-2016, 09:17 AM
After reading all the repub posts here, I can see why the repubs are the minority party. There is no party, only in name, you are fragmented and in complete disarray. Say hello to President Hillary Clinton.

BS!

Guest
04-03-2016, 09:35 AM
After reading all the repub posts here, I can see why the repubs are the minority party. There is no party, only in name, you are fragmented and in complete disarray. Say hello to President Hillary Clinton.

Funny how you say this, when the only representatives that you have running for the highest position in the world, is a criminal, lying thief and a perverted commie. What happened to the Democrat party?

Guest
04-03-2016, 09:42 AM
Your party is so disorganized and misunderstood you couldn't win even if you were running an African American/Presidential of Freedom Recipient/Brain Surgeon.

Guest
04-03-2016, 09:49 AM
Your party is so disorganized and misunderstood you couldn't win even if you were running an African American/Presidential of Freedom Recipient/Brain Surgeon.

It will be kind of difficult for the socialist party to field a candidate, if Hillary is nominated and then gets thrown in jail. And it is kind of hard to win an election when you have a 20% decrease in voter turn out, and the Republicans have a min. of 50% increase in voter turn out. Of course, if you add all those doubt and triple votes and voting dead people from the Walking Dead, you might still work it.

Guest
04-03-2016, 09:58 AM
As far as the nuclear option he said that you should take nothing off the table, because circumstances can change drastically. OK I'll give him that. Concerning the abortion crime charge it was a huge blunder, and all the walking back can't undo the damage.

If you listened at all to the abortion question, he was asked "If abortion were to become ILLEGAL, should a woman be punished?" His answer was spot on, but of course the media has left out the part about it being illegal. They are making it sound as if it is the way of the current law, which is legal. If that were the case, then his answer would have been wrong.

IF abortion is ILLEGAL, then a woman who seeks an abortion is committing a criminal act according to the law of man and should be punished, right along with the doctor performing the abortion. Doctors should not be the only one punished because they don't perform them unless requested to do so by the one who is pregnant.

Guest
04-03-2016, 10:01 AM
Question for Trump supporters:

Is there anything Trump could do or say that would force you to change your mind and switch your support to Cruz? Proof he was a child molester? Proof he had no knowledge of geography, you know, like George Bush or Sarah Palin?

I think that the chances of someone being a child molester would be Cruz. Cruz is about as trustworthy as Hillary.

Guest
04-03-2016, 10:05 AM
Please tell me what's Trump position on the issue of Right to Life. I'll give you 10 minutes to answer before he changes it.

Donald Trump expressed five different positions in a 48 hour period, according to Chuck Todd on today's Meet the Press.

Guest
04-03-2016, 10:24 AM
Donald Trump expressed five different positions in a 48 hour period, according to Chuck Todd on today's Meet the Press.

And what's your point? Obama has flip-flopped on almost every issue that he campaigned on. They are politicians, so what do you expect?

Better to change your opinion than to be a criminal, liar and thief or a perverted commie. Please explain why you would vote for the criminal, liar and thief or the perverted commie.

Guest
04-04-2016, 08:04 PM
Trump just told Sean Hannity that he will do the third party run if he is not the nominee on the first ballot. Hannity was left with his mouth open as Trump just walked off the set.

Oh, this is going to be good!

Guest
04-04-2016, 08:40 PM
Trump just told Sean Hannity that he will do the third party run if he is not the nominee on the first ballot. Hannity was left with his mouth open as Trump just walked off the set.

Oh, this is going to be good!
Forty-seven states have “sore loser” laws to stop a candidate who loses in a party’s primary from simply switching parties for the general election. Because these are state laws, there are 47 versions, with little uniformity. Some states merely prevent third-party bids, while others block write-in or independent candidates.

Guest
04-04-2016, 09:02 PM
hannity has not been broadcast yet tonight. coming on now.

Guest
04-04-2016, 10:05 PM
The one thing that would turn me away from Trump is if he were pretending to like our country. Eight years of watching the current one obviously pretending to like our country (while actually loathing it) has been sickening.

Guest
04-04-2016, 10:23 PM
The one thing that would turn me away from Trump is if he were pretending to like our country. Eight years of watching the current one obviously pretending to like our country (while actually loathing it) has been sickening.

i agree completely. and Trump did not walk off the Hannity show.

Guest
04-04-2016, 10:39 PM
What does that tell us about the validity of some posts here!

Guest
04-05-2016, 03:34 AM
The unfortunate truth is that there is not one presidential candidate worthy to defend let alone praise. I know this election cycle is all a bad reality television dream and I will awaken soon.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
04-05-2016, 04:43 AM
Forty-seven states have “sore loser” laws to stop a candidate who loses in a party’s primary from simply switching parties for the general election. Because these are state laws, there are 47 versions, with little uniformity. Some states merely prevent third-party bids, while others block write-in or independent candidates.

"Sore loser". you mean they have laws to keep the "system" fixed so "they" always win.

The unfortunate truth is that there is not one presidential candidate worthy to defend let alone praise. I know this election cycle is all a bad reality television dream and I will awaken soon.

Personal Best Regards:

ONLY if you look at the D and R party. It's the SAME every election, the ONLY worthy candidate isn't affiliated with the corrupt parties. Vote Libertarian or 3rd party.

Guest
04-05-2016, 05:57 AM
"Sore loser". you mean they have laws to keep the "system" fixed so "they" always win.



ONLY if you look at the D and R party. It's the SAME every election, the ONLY worthy candidate isn't affiliated with the corrupt parties. Vote Libertarian or 3rd party.

Go ahead and waste your vote. It's your prerogative. This way, you can complain about the winner. That's what you do, right? Complain?

Guest
04-05-2016, 06:52 AM
Go ahead and waste your vote. It's your prerogative. This way, you can complain about the winner. That's what you do, right? Complain?

No, I actually vote for whom I'd like to win, not the "lesser of two evils" like you do.

I know they'll never win because the country is full of fools like you who waste their vote voting for a shill, a known liar and thief, to "represent" them. Go ahead and be a stupid idiot keeping the corruption going. God forbid "their guy" wins...eh? That's why you vote for "your" liar and thief?

God forbid ANY D or R win. Because BOTH sides are full of corruption.

Guest
04-05-2016, 07:11 AM
No, I actually vote for whom I'd like to win, not the "lesser of two evils" like you do.

I know they'll never win because the country is full of fools like you who waste their vote voting for a shill, a known liar and thief, to "represent" them. Go ahead and be a stupid idiot keeping the corruption going. God forbid "their guy" wins...eh? That's why you vote for "your" liar and thief?

God forbid ANY D or R win. Because BOTH sides are full of corruption.

Like I said before, just waste your vote and then have an excuse to complain. Same old *****. "That'll learn them fools." :1rotfl:....:1rotfl:

Guest
04-05-2016, 07:21 AM
No, I actually vote for whom I'd like to win, not the "lesser of two evils" like you do.

I know they'll never win because the country is full of fools like you who waste their vote voting for a shill, a known liar and thief, to "represent" them. Go ahead and be a stupid idiot keeping the corruption going. God forbid "their guy" wins...eh? That's why you vote for "your" liar and thief?

God forbid ANY D or R win. Because BOTH sides are full of corruption.

There is a difference?

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04-05-2016, 07:40 AM
There is a difference?
Yes, Trump and Sanders

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04-05-2016, 08:54 AM
"Sore loser". you mean they have laws to keep the "system" fixed so "they" always win.
Trump 3rd party run would face 'sore loser' laws - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/politics/trump-third-party-run-barriers/)

This is why Trump is starting to get more Republican friendly. I don't think he knew from the very beginning how he could get vote-blocked. He can sue. That is possible. But here is where he will need to really dip into his own pockets. That would be a Trump test of integrity, to actually spend your own money. What's a billion when you are worth 10?

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04-05-2016, 11:45 AM
No, I actually vote for whom I'd like to win, not the "lesser of two evils" like you do.

I know they'll never win because the country is full of fools like you who waste their vote voting for a shill, a known liar and thief, to "represent" them. Go ahead and be a stupid idiot keeping the corruption going. God forbid "their guy" wins...eh? That's why you vote for "your" liar and thief?

God forbid ANY D or R win. Because BOTH sides are full of corruption.

If the majority are "stupid idiots" then what does that make someone that STUPIDLY thinks he is going to change anything with a protest vote? Do you really think anyone even cares? You are nothing more than a fly spec on the ballot totals. Not even worthy of posting on the final tallies. And that makes you what? Just a waste of oxygen. You know, the hippy fad died off decades ago.

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04-05-2016, 12:07 PM
I wonder if everyone realizes how many people are responding on both sides of every discussion? It's not just who likes Ford or Chevy in these discussions.

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04-05-2016, 04:44 PM
If the majority are "stupid idiots" then what does that make someone that STUPIDLY thinks he is going to change anything with a protest vote? Do you really think anyone even cares? You are nothing more than a fly spec on the ballot totals. Not even worthy of posting on the final tallies. And that makes you what? Just a waste of oxygen. You know, the hippy fad died off decades ago.

Be a slave and vote for your master. At least I TRY to change things. Roll over and show us your belly. You MUST be a woman. No man thinks like a defeatist.

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04-05-2016, 06:49 PM
Be a slave and vote for your master. At least I TRY to change things. Roll over and show us your belly. You MUST be a woman. No man thinks like a defeatist.

You don't get it. I vote for the ideology, not to protest. You vote for a libertarian. I haven't seen a libertarian that fits my ideology. SO, you are doing exactly what you claim I am doing, only you have no possible way of getting your choice. There is NO perfect candidate. The only perfect person in the world was crucified a couple thousand years ago. So, you can rant and rave, but you are doing exactly what you claim everyone else is doing. But, like I said before, that's your prerogative.

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04-05-2016, 10:31 PM
You don't get it. I vote for the ideology, not to protest. You vote for a libertarian. I haven't seen a libertarian that fits my ideology. SO, you are doing exactly what you claim I am doing, only you have no possible way of getting your choice. There is NO perfect candidate. The only perfect person in the world was crucified a couple thousand years ago. So, you can rant and rave, but you are doing exactly what you claim everyone else is doing. But, like I said before, that's your prerogative.

So, your "ideology" is lying and thieving? That's what the D and R party does. They both lie, cheat, and steal. That's your ideology? Or is it the BS "social issues" they create to keep the slaves at each others throat instead of theirs?

If you're not a Libertarian who just wants to be left alone to live his own self directed life...then what are you?

There is no PERFECT candidate, but the D or R candidate is the most IMPERFECT. They're all know liars and thieves.

Instead of the lesser of two evils, pick the lesser evil.

WE decide who wins with OUR votes. If you decide to waste it on "their guy", so be it, be their fool, their tool. I'll vote for MY ideology which is personal freedom, you can vote for continued slavery. Your grandchildren will all be debt slaves.

The human capacity for idiocy has no bounds...you willingly vote for your masters.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free...Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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04-06-2016, 04:10 AM
So, your "ideology" is lying and thieving? That's what the D and R party does. They both lie, cheat, and steal. That's your ideology? Or is it the BS "social issues" they create to keep the slaves at each others throat instead of theirs?

If you're not a Libertarian who just wants to be left alone to live his own self directed life...then what are you?

There is no PERFECT candidate, but the D or R candidate is the most IMPERFECT. They're all know liars and thieves.

Instead of the lesser of two evils, pick the lesser evil.

WE decide who wins with OUR votes. If you decide to waste it on "their guy", so be it, be their fool, their tool. I'll vote for MY ideology which is personal freedom, you can vote for continued slavery. Your grandchildren will all be debt slaves.

The human capacity for idiocy has no bounds...you willingly vote for your masters.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free...Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Delusional. I bet you blame all your failure on the government, right?

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04-06-2016, 11:31 AM
Sorry, but did I miss something? I thought this thread was addressed to Trump supporters and what would/could happen to get them to switch their support to Ted Cruz?

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04-06-2016, 03:52 PM
Sorry, but did I miss something? I thought this thread was addressed to Trump supporters and what would/could happen to get them to switch their support to Ted Cruz?Trump seems to get pass with women and I thought I seen all the clips but this one is new.
Trump gives the criest answer imaginable when interviewed about is baby daughter.

Donald Trump Describes Baby Daughter's Breasts in 'Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous' Clip on 'The Daily Show' (Video) - Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-baby-daughter-breasts-trevor-noah-881406)

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04-06-2016, 06:28 PM
Trump seems to get pass with women and I thought I seen all the clips but this one is new.
Trump gives the criest answer imaginable when interviewed about is baby daughter.

Donald Trump Describes Baby Daughter's Breasts in 'Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous' Clip on 'The Daily Show' (Video) - Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-baby-daughter-breasts-trevor-noah-881406)

Kind of stupid. No, very much stupid. How could anyone get a bad notion from that comment? You have Sanders writing essays on women fantasizing about being raped, and you have Hillary defending a child rapist in court...and you worry about Trump discussing (after being asked) what parts of him and what parts of his wife's that his little girl got. And he did NOT say anything about her breasts, other than he didn't know if she got her mother's or not. Reporters love to set him up with their loaded questions, just so they can hopefully sensationalize something he says. And I don't even like the guy, and I can tell when liberals are grasping at straws.

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04-06-2016, 06:37 PM
Kind of stupid. No, very much stupid. How could anyone get a bad notion from that comment? You have Sanders writing essays on women fantasizing about being raped, and you have Hillary defending a child rapist in court...and you worry about Trump discussing (after being asked) what parts of him and what parts of his wife's that his little girl got. And he did NOT say anything about her breasts, other than he didn't know if she got her mother's or not. Reporters love to set him up with their loaded questions, just so they can hopefully sensationalize something he says. And I don't even like the guy, and I can tell when liberals are grasping at straws.You didn't watch the video.

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04-06-2016, 06:41 PM
You didn't watch the video.
You did watch the video. Apparently it touched a nerve with a lot of viewers but not every viewer.
The thread is
Question for Trump supporters?

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04-06-2016, 06:43 PM
You didn't watch the video.

Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos. Get over it. As a liberal, I am surprised you are even bothered by anything like that. After all, the pervert socialist doesn't bother you and Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. So, now you are suddenly going to get religion? Kind of disingenuous aren't you? Is that the best you all can come up with, a 30 year old comment?

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04-06-2016, 07:01 PM
Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos. Get over it. As a liberal, I am surprised you are even bothered by anything like that. After all, the pervert socialist doesn't bother you and Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. So, now you are suddenly going to get religion? Kind of disingenuous aren't you? Is that the best you all can come up with, a 30 year old comment?Pal, I got no idea what you are talking about. I know you think you are making sense but not to me. If you are hearing that from others as well you might want got a check-up.

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04-06-2016, 07:28 PM
Kind of stupid. No, very much stupid. How could anyone get a bad notion from that comment? You have Sanders writing essays on women fantasizing about being raped, and you have Hillary defending a child rapist in court...and you worry about Trump discussing (after being asked) what parts of him and what parts of his wife's that his little girl got. And he did NOT say anything about her breasts, other than he didn't know if she got her mother's or not. Reporters love to set him up with their loaded questions, just so they can hopefully sensationalize something he says. And I don't even like the guy, and I can tell when liberals are grasping at straws.

You think the question that the reporter asked was a loaded question from 1994 interview that had nothing to do with politics? You can tell when a liberal is rasping at straws despite all evidence to the contrary.

Reporters don't have to ask him loaded questions. All they have to do is wait, and something completely stupid will come out of his mouth.

He has made so many comments on so many different subjects that a few will come true just by the sire odds.. You know his comment will be, "I told you, so." The man has no shame.

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04-06-2016, 07:53 PM
Pal, I got no idea what you are talking about. I know you think you are making sense but not to me. If you are hearing that from others as well you might want got a check-up.

Good one. Made me smile.

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04-07-2016, 03:48 AM
Pal, I got no idea what you are talking about. I know you think you are making sense but not to me. If you are hearing that from others as well you might want got a check-up.

And you might want to get a refund for your education.

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04-07-2016, 05:20 AM
And you might want to get a refund for your education.

The SAD part is...someone AGREED with his babbling.

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04-07-2016, 08:20 AM
Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos. Get over it. As a liberal, I am surprised you are even bothered by anything like that. After all, the pervert socialist doesn't bother you and Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. So, now you are suddenly going to get religion? Kind of disingenuous aren't you? Is that the best you all can come up with, a 30 year old comment?I had to string a couple of threads together and a couple of posters that you think are me. I've said it before, I am open minded. That does not put me in a group unless it's called independent. I don't have the answers but I do enjoy finding them online and asking others for answers.
1] Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos.
I wasn't on that thread. And I'm not running for office and personally I planned my parenthood. I don't know where I stand on that issue.
2] the pervert socialist doesn't bother you Sanders is not a pervert,
a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable. He wrote an essay. He regrets writing it. He calls himself a democratic socialist. I do think he has the best intentions for the country out of all the candidates and the highest morals. My gut feeling is that he is an honest man.
3] Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. This does bother me. I understand that a lawyer is appointed to do the best they can for their client and that's part of the game but it's not a game when it comes to rape. So I don't know what to make of that issue.
4] I said God Bless You. I meant it. I'm not very religious but when situations or people look hopeless, I pray. I don't know why and that comes off as disingenuous.
5] The video is weird. Every parent and relative looks at their infant to see if they have someone's eyes, or nose or mouth. You feel blessed if they have your eyes. Trump goes in a direction I've never heard before. If you watched the video you might have been creeped out too. I was like a SNL skit. It's hard to find a piece on Trump that no one has seen before. That's what also makes it unique.

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04-07-2016, 08:37 AM
I had to string a couple of threads together and a couple of posters that you think are me. I've said it before, I am open minded. That does not put me in a group unless it's called independent. I don't have the answers but I do enjoy finding them online and asking others for answers.
1] Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos.
I wasn't on that thread. And I'm not running for office and personally I planned my parenthood. I don't know where I stand on that issue.
2] the pervert socialist doesn't bother you Sanders is not a pervert,
a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable. He wrote an essay. He regrets writing it. He calls himself a democratic socialist. I do think he has the best intentions for the country out of all the candidates and the highest morals. My gut feeling is that he is an honest man.
3] Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. This does bother me. I understand that a lawyer is appointed to do the best they can for their client and that's part of the game but it's not a game when it comes to rape. So I don't know what to make of that issue.
4] I said God Bless You. I meant it. I'm not very religious but when situations or people look hopeless, I pray. I don't know why and that comes off as disingenuous.
5] The video is weird. Every parent and relative looks at their infant to see if they have someone's eyes, or nose or mouth. You feel blessed if they have your eyes. Trump goes in a direction I've never heard before. If you watched the video you might have been creeped out too. I was like a SNL skit. It's hard to find a piece on Trump that no one has seen before. That's what also makes it unique.

Hillary Clinton Speaks About Defense of Child Rapist (http://freebeacon.com/politics/hillary-clinton-speaks-about-defense-of-child-rapist/)

That kind of bothers me too. I did work for prisoners at Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners with the Minnesota Correctional Facility-Stillwater and some of these were convicted rapists but I would not have had such an attitude as she seems to have with respect to a client. You do your duty for your client but should try to empathize with what the victim/survivor is going through as well. It sounds like the Hillary Clinton make then just saw this as a game to win at any cost judging by some of the tactics she used.

I am not really thrilled by any of the candidates all that much in 2016. Sanders does seem like a very ethical person but his proposals seem quite unrealistic.

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04-07-2016, 08:38 AM
And you might want to get a refund for your education.I had a scholarship based on SAT scores, GPA and financial need. My dad couldn't start me off with a million dollars although he did give me what he could and taught me a couple of trades. We worked together on projects and I worked for him as an electrician's helper. What's that worth?

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04-07-2016, 08:42 AM
I had a scholarship based on SAT scores, GPA and financial need. My dad couldn't start me off with a million dollars although he did give me what he could and taught me a couple of trades. We worked together on projects and I worked for him as an electrician's helper. What's that worth?

Why respond to obvious baiting?

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04-07-2016, 08:52 AM
Why respond to obvious baiting?Why not? What's the harm? Sometimes the people who post think they are breaking your balls when they are not. I do hate to ruin the fun.

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04-07-2016, 09:26 AM
Hillary Clinton Speaks About Defense of Child Rapist (http://freebeacon.com/politics/hillary-clinton-speaks-about-defense-of-child-rapist/)
Sanders does seem like a very ethical person but his proposals seem quite unrealistic.
I found the same link last night. There are two things going on the legal and the victim. We all have a head and a heart.

I wonder what will happen in the future when every word you typed is recorded. Maybe people will get used to it, like pot. The first time I heard a president say "I did not inhale" was the first time someone in my generation sounded like many I knew. Now a candidate like Bush or Obama can say they used coke and it's not stopping their political career. I thought it was funny and pathetic [a little too late] that Jeb said he smoked pot.

I'll take my chances, and my future kin's chances with Sanders. Just running his ideas are getting some press.

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04-07-2016, 09:29 AM
Why not? What's the harm? Sometimes the people who post think they are breaking your balls when they are not. I do hate to ruin the fun.

So, you slam someone because you can't follow the conversation, and then complain when someone strikes back with a valid observation even though harsh? What are you, one of those sensitive liberals that thinks it's OK for Freedom of Speech as long as you agree with it? Don't put it out there if you don't want someone stepping on it.

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04-07-2016, 09:33 AM
Why respond to obvious baiting?

Obviously, you are not reading the comments or you would know that the response was to his snide remark.

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04-07-2016, 09:51 AM
So, you slam someone because you can't follow the conversation, and then complain when someone strikes back with a valid observation even though harsh? What are you, one of those sensitive liberals that thinks it's OK for Freedom of Speech as long as you agree with it? Don't put it out there if you don't want someone stepping on it.Have you ever heard the phrase "tilting at windmills"?

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04-07-2016, 09:57 AM
I had to string a couple of threads together and a couple of posters that you think are me. I've said it before, I am open minded. That does not put me in a group unless it's called independent. I don't have the answers but I do enjoy finding them online and asking others for answers.
1] Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos.
I wasn't on that thread. And I'm not running for office and personally I planned my parenthood. I don't know where I stand on that issue.
2] the pervert socialist doesn't bother you Sanders is not a pervert,
a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable. He wrote an essay. He regrets writing it. He calls himself a democratic socialist. I do think he has the best intentions for the country out of all the candidates and the highest morals. My gut feeling is that he is an honest man.
3] Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. This does bother me. I understand that a lawyer is appointed to do the best they can for their client and that's part of the game but it's not a game when it comes to rape. So I don't know what to make of that issue.
4] I said God Bless You. I meant it. I'm not very religious but when situations or people look hopeless, I pray. I don't know why and that comes off as disingenuous.
5] The video is weird. Every parent and relative looks at their infant to see if they have someone's eyes, or nose or mouth. You feel blessed if they have your eyes. Trump goes in a direction I've never heard before. If you watched the video you might have been creeped out too. I was like a SNL skit. It's hard to find a piece on Trump that no one has seen before. That's what also makes it unique.

I am guessing that you do not know much about Sanders, or you would not give him such a shining compliment. I am not going to be mean and suggest that you are out of your mind. Sanders is a dirty old man/pervert. Even a recent lewd remark is evidence, when he made a comment about a young lady in the audience at one of his rallies. I'll let you look it up, because I linked it in another post.
To suggest that Sanders has the highest of morals and is honest, is proof that you know nothing about the commie. Why don't you research how he made his living for the first 40 years of his life before he started his first full-time job? And how can you suggest that he is honest when he wants to forcibly take money from everyone to pay for college and health care for the lazy. And I say lazy, because these kids do not want to work their way through college (like most of my generation) or even pay their loans back after they finish their education. Sanders is a dirty old commie. He is running amok, shouting about a revolution and you liberals are eating it up like you are some kind of hippy teenager at a flag burning demonstration.

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04-07-2016, 10:06 AM
Of Topic Warning:
You can't alway cubbyhole people. Tack for instance the Pope. Is he a liberal?

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04-07-2016, 10:17 AM
I am guessing that you do not know much about Sanders, or you would not give him such a shining compliment. I am not going to be mean and suggest that you are out of your mind. Sanders is a dirty old man/pervert. Even a recent lewd remark is evidence, when he made a comment about a young lady in the audience at one of his rallies. I'll let you look it up, because I linked it in another post.
To suggest that Sanders has the highest of morals and is honest, is proof that you know nothing about the commie. Why don't you research how he made his living for the first 40 years of his life before he started his first full-time job? And how can you suggest that he is honest when he wants to forcibly take money from everyone to pay for college and health care for the lazy. And I say lazy, because these kids do not want to work their way through college (like most of my generation) or even pay their loans back after they finish their education. Sanders is a dirty old commie. He is running amok, shouting about a revolution and you liberals are eating it up like you are some kind of hippy teenager at a flag burning demonstration.I have read a lot about Sanders. I have seen many interviews. I don't see him contradicting himself or defending himself about allegations.

How much was tuition when you went to college? My state tuition was $350/yr. Big deal. I could make that washing dishes.


Young people were told to get a good job you need a good education. The whole story is that you need a good education that will prepare you for the computer, math and science fields. It's not easy and you need to be smart. That's where I steered my kids. They pay a lot of taxes because they make a lot of money.

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04-07-2016, 10:27 AM
I found the same link last night. There are two things going on the legal and the victim. We all have a head and a heart.

I wonder what will happen in the future when every word you typed is recorded. Maybe people will get used to it, like pot. The first time I heard a president say "I did not inhale" was the first time someone in my generation sounded like many I knew. Now a candidate like Bush or Obama can say they used coke and it's not stopping their political career. I thought it was funny and pathetic [a little too late] that Jeb said he smoked pot.

I'll take my chances, and my future kin's chances with Sanders. Just running his ideas are getting some press.

You can empathize with a victim and still search out some kind of justice while being a good lawyer. It does not seem to me that a lawyer should try anything to get their client off. The culture in law schools in the 1970s and 1980s though did seem to stress objective gamesmanship and not empathy with the survivor/victim.

I do not see these matters as being problems for Clinton or Sanders now as legal education seems to be quite different in the 2010s with the extensive interest in survivors/victims rights in the places of higher education. I mean Sanders' article from the 1970s and Clinton's days as a defender of an alleged rapist of a 12 year old.

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04-07-2016, 10:39 AM
You can empathize with a victim and still search out some kind of justice while being a good lawyer. It does not seem to me that a lawyer should try anything to get their client off. The culture in law schools in the 1970s and 1980s though did seem to stress objective gamesmanship and not empathy with the survivor/victim.

I do not see these matters as being problems for Clinton or Sanders now as legal education seems to be quite different in the 2010s with the extensive interest in survivors/victims rights in the places of higher education. I mean Sanders' article from the 1970s and Clinton's days as a defender of an alleged rapist of a 12 year old.

And yet, the right is held to higher standards, right? A comment that Trump made 30 years ago is a point of contention, but a perverted essay by a socialist that claims to be moral, and then Hillary that is proclaiming a GOP war on women when she is the obvious perpetrator herself, are both off limits. Am I assuming correct?

I am not endeared to Trump, but I do see some hypocrisy broadcasting from the left.

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04-07-2016, 10:42 AM
Of Topic Warning:
You can't alway cubbyhole people. Tack for instance the Pope. Is he a liberal?
boy oh boy, I didn't proof read that at all. sorry
You can't always cubbyhole or label people. Take for instance the Pope. Is he a liberal?

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04-07-2016, 12:00 PM
And yet, the right is held to higher standards, right? A comment that Trump made 30 years ago is a point of contention, but a perverted essay by a socialist that claims to be moral, and then Hillary that is proclaiming a GOP war on women when she is the obvious perpetrator herself, are both off limits. Am I assuming correct?

I am not endeared to Trump, but I do see some hypocrisy broadcasting from the left.
At the risk of making you angrier I think you have blown things out of proportion.

Ask yourself "Why do you think Sanders is a pervert?" You have an essay that Sander's said was poorly written and regrets writing as a young man.

Why do you think voters have a problem with the way Trump has treated women? There's lot of evidence with what he has said and how he has acted over the years. It's not just that even as a baby Trump predicted that he hopes Tiffany looks like her mom in a sexy sort of way or if he was somebody else he would be interested in Ivanka. I've never heard a dad say either of those things.

The biggest problem is that this is the first time Trump is running for any office. He has no political record. So you are voting on trusting his good judgment and character.

I don't think Hillary has made any statements about any of the other candidates views on women. Maybe she has. Do you know?

I'm only speaking for myself and thinking out loud. I'm not trying to win a debate.

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04-07-2016, 12:05 PM
Young people were told to get a good job you need a good education. The whole story is that you need a good education that will prepare you for the computer, math and science fields. It's not easy and you need to be smart. That's where I steered my kids. They pay a lot of taxes because they make a lot of money.

That's the crux, most of the kids going to college aren't very smart. Laquanda from the projects isn't going to go to work for Goldman. She probably won't get a job at all. Because she doesn't know how to act.

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04-07-2016, 12:13 PM
That's the crux, most of the kids going to college aren't very smart. And how do you know that?

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04-07-2016, 12:29 PM
And how do you know that?

Even Sanders made a statement where he said the kids today in college are just getting an education equivalent to a high school education that we had. It's about the only thing that I agreed with him on.

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04-07-2016, 12:32 PM
You can empathize with a victim and still search out some kind of justice while being a good lawyer. It does not seem to me that a lawyer should try anything to get their client off. The culture in law schools in the 1970s and 1980s though did seem to stress objective gamesmanship and not empathy with the survivor/victim.

I do not see these matters as being problems for Clinton or Sanders now as legal education seems to be quite different in the 2010s with the extensive interest in survivors/victims rights in the places of higher education. I mean Sanders' article from the 1970s and Clinton's days as a defender of an alleged rapist of a 12 year old.
I went to a Jesuit University, and the professors in my law classes said that it was a defense lawyer's responsibility to do everything (legal) in representng their client to achieve an innocent verdict. No matter what. They said that was a basic tenet in our legal system.

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04-07-2016, 12:35 PM
Even Sanders made a statement where he said the kids today in college are just getting an education equivalent to a high school education that we had. It's about the only thing that I agreed with him on.During the debate Sanders claimed "A college degree today is the equivalent of what a high school degree was 50 years ago."

That means that you need at least need college degree to get a good job. Whereas 50 years ago you needed at least a high school degree.

You can go back to not agreeing with anything he said.

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04-07-2016, 12:38 PM
I went to a Jesuit University, and the professors in my law classes said that it was a defense lawyer's responsibility to do everything (legal) in representng their client to achieve an innocent verdict. No matter what. They said that was a basic tenet in our legal system.
WARNING OFF TOPIC--DON'T BOTHER READING

You could probably answer this question better than anyone I know.
Would you call the Pope a liberal?

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04-07-2016, 12:48 PM
I went to a Jesuit University, and the professors in my law classes said that it was a defense lawyer's responsibility to do everything (legal) in representng their client to achieve an innocent verdict. No matter what. They said that was a basic tenet in our legal system.

Everyone understands that. The point made was that Hillary is constantly proclaiming that the GOP is at war on women. She has absolutely NO evidence to support her accusations, other than Planned Parenthood. And even many Democrats in congress sided with them on that issue. Hillary was brutal to that 12 year old raped girl in court, which was inexcusable and just showed how much money apparently meant to her than justice. The point is that she is a hypocrite. It may be a cops job to arrest a criminal, but how he proceeds with that can make a difference between being conceived as professional or being excessive.

Hillary claims that Republicans are at "war" with women, when the Republicans are not against women, but against gov subsidized abortion, or selling of baby parts. To the Republicans, it is attempting to protect the baby's rights and enforce the law, where as Hillary insists on using the controversy to garner votes. If she was so adamant about women's rights, where was she when that little girl was raped? Why is that girl still suffering for the additional trauma of being badgered by Hillary in court?

This is not the only issue where she is a hypocrite. She was also against gay marriage for many years. Then she entered politics and ran for office and suddenly she was FOR gay marriage.

She was for entering into war with Iraq and then she was against the war.

The list is too long. If a Republican changes his mind, it's called flip-flopping. If a liberal does it, it's call "evolving."

Guest
04-07-2016, 12:53 PM
The list is too long. If a Republican changes his mind, it's called flip-flopping. If a liberal does it, it's call "evolving."
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Guest
04-07-2016, 01:00 PM
WARNING OFF TOPIC--DON'T BOTHER READING

You could probably answer this question better than anyone I know.
Would you call the Pope a liberal?

The Pope is a socialist, for a socialist country. And compared to other Popes, he is liberal.

Guest
04-07-2016, 01:10 PM
The Pope is a socialist, for a socialist country. And compared to other Popes, he is liberal.Vatican City State is governed as an absolute monarchy. The Head of State is the Pope who holds full legislative, executive and judicial powers.
If the Pope is a liberal, what is his position on abortion and gay rights?

I'll wait for the Lawyer's answer who went to the Jesuit college. I always learn something when he writes.

Guest
04-07-2016, 01:27 PM
That's the crux, most of the kids going to college aren't very smart. Laquanda from the projects isn't going to go to work for Goldman. She probably won't get a job at all. Because she doesn't know how to act.

You mean like Ben Carson.

Guest
04-07-2016, 01:33 PM
You mean like Ben Carson.
Carson was born in Detroit, Michigan, the son of Sonya (née Copeland) and Robert Solomon Carson, a minister and later Cadillac factory worker. Both parents came from large families in rural Georgia and were living in rural Tennessee when they met and married. Carson's mother was only 13 when she married Carson's father, who was 28. Carson's mother subsequently discovered her husband had another family, for which Carson's father eventually abandoned her.[7][8][9] Following his parents' divorce, when Carson was eight years old, both he and his older brother, Curtis, were raised by their mother, who worked two or three jobs at a time, usually as a domestic servant. They were poor, and his mother occasionally relied on food stamps and other government assistance.[10]

You never know what you will learn on these threads.