Dumbest People In a Golf Crt

[Chatbrat]

As we were pulling thru the St. James gate yesterday-a golf cart was waiting to cross . This is the layout--Grandma driving-daughter holding a 3 month old on her right-son- in -law in the rear seat holding two under 2 infants one in each arm.

I shouted if anything goes wrong those kids are going to get hurt @ best. My wife said-hope you guys are real strong.

If you got guests with infants leave the cart home--use your Car--the infants will never know what they were riding in.

[redwitch]

So, what do you yell at people in cars with children? Have not heard of one incident where a child has died in a golf cart accident here. Children die in cars daily. Yes, golf carts can be dangerous and fatalities have occurred while being in one. However, if driven safely, carefully and sanely, the risks are not that high. Maybe you should try the MYOB rule and not be so quick to try and wreck other people's pleasure.

[Chatbrat]

Children have to be secured in a child seat in a car. And a child did die when the golf cart turned over & the child hit the curb-best kept secret in the Villages it happened several years ago-corner of St.Charles & Buttonwood

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

So, what do you yell at people in cars with children? Have not heard of one incident where a child has died in a golf cart accident here. Children die in cars daily. Yes, golf carts can be dangerous and fatalities have occurred while being in one. However, if driven safely, carefully and sanely, the risks are not that high. Maybe you should try the MYOB rule and not be so quick to try and wreck other people's pleasure.

I agree. I don't think that we should go around yelling at people and trying to push our beliefs onto others.

First of all, it won't change anyone's behavior. Secondly, it's liable to cause more serious confrontation.

These people were not breaking any law. If they were you should have called the police.

What's next, are we going to yell at people who have their ten year old on the back of a motorcycle because we think that it's dangerous?

[outlaw]

Children have to be secured in a child seat in a car. And a child did die when the golf cart turned over & the child hit the curb-best kept secret in the Villages it happened several years ago-corner of St.Charles & Buttonwood

Sad. I can only imagine what those parents/grandparents must be going through for the rest of their lives. "If only I would have..."

[graciegirl]

Children have to be secured in a child seat in a car. And a child did die when the golf cart turned over & the child hit the curb-best kept secret in the Villages it happened several years ago-corner of St.Charles & Buttonwood



No.

[Chatbrat]

The Daily Sun-said if you have infants & small children as guests-TAKE THE CAR

When we lived on our boat and cruised for six years we witnessed many tragedies-like three men getting swept over a dam in Canada, a child who was bow riding & got tossed of a boat,

The founder of the Bone Fish Grill was killed when he was tossed from his boat in Tampa Bay--his body was never found.

Whats wrong with giving someone a heads up?

When I was in business, the most important thing I could be proud of was, none of my employees got injured while working for me,

[graciegirl]

The Daily Sun-said if you have infants & small children as guests-TAKE THE CAR

When we lived on our boat and cruised for six years we witnessed many tragedies-like three men getting swept over a dam in Canada, a child who was bow riding & got tossed of a boat,

The founder of the Bone Fish Grill was killed when he was tossed from his boat in Tampa Bay--his body was never found.

Whats wrong with giving someone a heads up?

When I was in business, the most important thing I could be proud of was, none of my employees got injured while working for me,




It is a regional thing. Only folks raised in certain areas of the country are not annoyed when someone tells them how to do things.


Ohio people would not invite you to their next hamburger fry.

[Taltarzac725]

Golf cart deaths more common than thought | TBO.com and The Tampa Tribune (http://www.tbo.com/pasco-county/golf-cart-deaths-more-common-than-thought-417643)

Just doing some research.

I am with Redwitch though that telling someone in a golf cart like this would probably just make them defensive and not get them to change their behavior in the least. Maybe, getting more people to read TOTV though might help them with some safety precautions.

I remember those left turns in the golf cart and how hard I had staying in when a neighbor was driving a little too fast for my comfort. I could just put my feet down though hard and stay in the golf cart.

[graciegirl]

Golf cart deaths more common than thought | TBO.com and The Tampa Tribune (http://www.tbo.com/pasco-county/golf-cart-deaths-more-common-than-thought-417643)

Just doing some research.

I am with Redwitch though that telling someone in a golf cart like this would probably just make them defensive and not get them to change their behavior in the least. Maybe, getting more people to read TOTV though might help them with some safety precautions.

I remember those left turns in the golf cart and how hard I had staying in when a neighbor was driving a little too fast for my comfort. I could just put my feet down though hard and stay in the golf cart.



You are right and so is Chatbrat. Some people have the diplomacy to tell people to go to hell and make them look forward to the trip.

[dewilson58]

I've seen the same stupidity. I've bit my lip and didn't say anything. Then I pray I don't read about the child in the next 48 hours.

[Taltarzac725]

You are right and so is Chatbrat. Some people have the diplomacy to tell people to go to hell and make them look forward to the trip.

That's true. I have met some law students who could tell you that the sky is red all the time and you might eventually believe them if you do not look outside. Same with some sales people I have come across.

Charm and good story telling will change people's attitudes and behavior quicker than rudeness though.

I do believe that suggestions like this would work in certain parts of the country like the Twin Cities but probably not with many New Yorkers at least not with the many New Yorkers I have met here in the Villages and in Palm Harbor. There are exceptions of course. A native Minnesotan who moved to New York and now lives in the Villages, maybe.

[flyerguy]

Based on the OP's description, I believe this is a bone head act by the golf cart owner. Those small tykes are unprotected and subject to severe injuries. However, with that said, I don't believe yelling instructions and your disproval of their actions will accomplish anything. Unless it's unlawful we can just hope for the best and pray that those kids aren't hurt.

If your child is not properly secured in your auto, it's against the law, endangering the life of a child. Why shouldn't it be the same or even more strict for a golf cart.

[graciegirl]

Based on the OP's description, I believe this is a bone head act by the golf cart owner. Those small tykes are unprotected and subject to severe injuries. However, with that said, I don't believe yelling instructions and your disproval of their actions will accomplish anything. Unless it's unlawful we can just hope for the best and pray that those kids aren't hurt.

If your child is not properly secured in your auto, it's against the law, endangering the life of a child. Why shouldn't it be the same or even more strict for a golf cart.



If there was a law passed, some folks would ignore it. I think that they think the slow speed makes it safer.

[Chatbrat]

Basic physics-20 lbs, @ 20 mph= 400 lbs weight--

Who do you know who can hold 400 lbs ?

[Walter123]

So, what do you yell at people in cars with children? Have not heard of one incident where a child has died in a golf cart accident here. Children die in cars daily. Yes, golf carts can be dangerous and fatalities have occurred while being in one. However, if driven safely, carefully and sanely, the risks are not that high. Maybe you should try the MYOB rule and not be so quick to try and wreck other people's pleasure.

You and anyone else who thinks chatbrat should MYOB can keep your heads in the sand. Sooner of later you'll run out of oxygen.

Chatbrat, you were right to say something to them, maybe they will rethink their actions and save their children from a serious possible injury.

[Challenger]

Based on the OP's description, I believe this is a bone head act by the golf cart owner. Those small tykes are unprotected and subject to severe injuries. However, with that said, I don't believe yelling instructions and your disproval of their actions will accomplish anything. Unless it's unlawful we can just hope for the best and pray that those kids aren't hurt.

If your child is not properly secured in your auto, it's against the law, endangering the life of a child. Why shouldn't it be the same or even more strict for a golf cart.

Especially when riding in diamond lanes

[Taltarzac725]

http://www.nmb.us/files/pdf/uploads/pressPublic/250-FINAL%20-%20NMB%20PSD%20Golf%20Cart%20Law%20Brochure%20-%20PD%20Revision.pdf

I did find this interesting. It is golf carts rules for Myrtle Beach, SC.

One of the rules:

Do not carry children or
animals on your lap while operating
a golf cart.

[SCasey]

So, what do you yell at people in cars with children? Have not heard of one incident where a child has died in a golf cart accident here. Children die in cars daily. Yes, golf carts can be dangerous and fatalities have occurred while being in one. However, if driven safely, carefully and sanely, the risks are not that high. Maybe you should try the MYOB rule and not be so quick to try and wreck other people's pleasure.

As a former Firefighter/EMT, I can say I have never taken a dead child out of a car seat. I believe the OP meant to imply the child would be properly secured in the car. I cannot believe how many times I see people transporting their babies in what I call "the baby crusher position". Once the vehicle (car or golf cart) stops abruptly, whatever you are carrying between your body and the dashboard is going to be crushed.

[Chatbrat]

Finally the unnamed online newspaper, could start posting pictures of unsafe acts in golf carts, instead of bad parking pics

[Jima64]

As we were pulling thru the St. James gate yesterday-a golf cart was waiting to cross . This is the layout--Grandma driving-daughter holding a 3 month old on her right-son- in -law in the rear seat holding two under 2 infants one in each arm.

I shouted if anything goes wrong those kids are going to get hurt @ best. My wife said-hope you guys are real strong.

If you got guests with infants leave the cart home--use your Car--the infants will never know what they were riding in.

Hopefully they heard all you said and it makes them thank about the possible tragedy that could happen. Too often it becomes a testosterone yelling match of egos.

[asianthree]

when I see children in golf carts unprotected I wonder all day if they made their destination safely. We only have three grands and none to spare to an accident

[Taltarzac725]

Finally the unnamed online newspaper, could start posting pictures of unsafe acts in golf carts, instead of bad parking pics

They have a story of a dog that was in a golf cart, saw something interesting to chase, jumped out, and got run over by the dog owners' golf cart. Or something like that.

[Chellybean]

Basic physics-20 lbs, @ 20 mph= 400 lbs weight--

Who do you know who can hold 400 lbs ?

Perfect Analogy.
CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Taltarzac725]

https://youtu.be/Z3pIKd-wMDY

Hope this works.

[flyerguy]

If there was a law passed, some folks would ignore it. I think that they think the slow speed makes it safer.

Yes, that's probably true, but it would be enforceable.

[asianthree]

Have seen small dog thrown from cart on a sharp turn. Owner didn't even know till people started yelling at her.

[RickeyD]

It is a regional thing. Only folks raised in certain areas of the country are not annoyed when someone tells them how to do things.


Ohio people would not invite you to their next hamburger fry.



Sorry, O-hi-o doesn't have the exclusive right to tell a stranger to mind your business. Think, 13 original colony's.

[dbussone]

You have to wonder how some of these folks have escaped the gene pool's efforts to self correct for whatever gene is responsible for lack of common sense.

[Taltarzac725]

You have to wonder how some of these folks have escaped the gene pool's efforts to self correct for whatever gene is responsible for lack of common sense.

They are probably very unfamiliar with golf carts in a setting other than golf courses.

Can you see getting around in a golf cart in the streets of Columbus, Ohio; New York City; Tampa; Las Vegas, or how about Los Angeles?

[Fred R]

I've noticed a reoccurring theme as I read many posts on these sites. Whenever some sees something they don't like their first reaction is to suggest that someone pass a law to prohibit it. Does this really make sense? Some folks just want the right to do stupid things. I'm not sure legislation would ever stop that. For instance, last month I'm riding my motorcycle back from the store. I pull up to the gate and some gal behind me starts screaming at me, "where is your helmet, where is your helmet". She yells at me all the way down Chula Vista. I think she needs to get a life and stay out of other peoples,,,especially mine.

[Walter123]

I've noticed a reoccurring theme as I read many posts on these sites. Whenever some sees something they don't like their first reaction is to suggest that someone pass a law to prohibit it. Does this really make sense? Some folks just want the right to do stupid things. I'm not sure legislation would ever stop that. For instance, last month I'm riding my motorcycle back from the store. I pull up to the gate and some gal behind me starts screaming at me, "where is your helmet, where is your helmet". She yells at me all the way down Chula Vista. I think she needs to get a life and stay out of other peoples,,,especially mine.

I understand what you're saying but you are an adult and can make your own choices. No one but you are responsible for your choice to not wear a helmet.The woman yelling at you should have known that and should have kept quite
Little children and animals depend on adults to make the right choice for them except in Ohio I guess. Did you know they fry hamburgers there? I didn't!

[Jim 9922]

I've noticed a reoccurring theme as I read many posts on these sites. Whenever some sees something they don't like their first reaction is to suggest that someone pass a law to prohibit it. Does this really make sense? Some folks just want the right to do stupid things. I'm not sure legislation would ever stop that. For instance, last month I'm riding my motorcycle back from the store. I pull up to the gate and some gal behind me starts screaming at me, "where is your helmet, where is your helmet". She yells at me all the way down Chula Vista. I think she needs to get a life and stay out of other peoples,,,especially mine.



Some people climb mountains, some ski race downhill at breakneck speed, some kids climb tall trees and play on old fashion monkey bars, some people drive cars with bald tires, and maybe text at the same time, some scuba dive under water, some fly small planes through thunder storms, or sky dive out of perfectly good planes, or fly ultra lights with chain saw motors, some people continue to smoke, some overeat and are overweight, etc., etc. It is their choice. If you want to live in a highly regulated and controlled society consider moving to North Korea, or some such place.

[Fred R]

I understand what you're saying but you are an adult and can make your own choices. No one but you are responsible for your choice to not wear a helmet.The woman yelling at you should have known that and should have kept quite
Little children and animals depend on adults to make the right choice for them except in Ohio I guess. Did you know they fry hamburgers there? I didn't!

You are correct about adults need to make smart choices when it comes to children. Yes, I know about the hamburger thing. Fact is, I've fried many in my day, but not to folks who would cream at me riding down the road. LOL
I hear some folks fry hamburgers in other states too.

[graciegirl]

Some people climb mountains, some ski race downhill at breakneck speed, some kids climb tall trees and play on old fashion monkey bars, some people drive cars with bald tires, and maybe text at the same time, some scuba dive under water, some fly small planes through thunder storms, or sky dive out of perfectly good planes, or fly ultra lights with chain saw motors, some people continue to smoke, some overeat and are overweight, etc., etc. It is their choice. If you want to live in a highly regulated and controlled society consider moving to North Korea, or some such place.



I am going to print this and frame it. I will hang it right next to the picture of my sweetie frying hamburgers.

[maureenod]

Yes, adults can do whatever they want, however, when it comes to the safety of children, that's another story. I definitely would have done what the OP did, maybe they would wake up.

[graciegirl]

Yes, adults can do whatever they want, however, when it comes to the safety of children, that's another story. I definitely would have done what the OP did, maybe they would wake up.



You see this is the difference in what our mothers told us to do. Some mothers would have yelled it out. Some mothers would have smacked you for yelling it out.


I don't disagree with protecting children, but perhaps this discussion will be read by someone who will pause in allowing their golf cart to be driven by someone who is too young or by someone who might endanger their grandchildren.


It is a cultural difference we are discussing on whether it would help to yell out a criticism. Whether it would make them think, or just **** them off.


On that we can argue all day. I doubt if many would disagree that what Chatbrat saw was dangerous. And few would not have cared. It is how to change it and how far we would go to make laws that have to be followed. It is a basic difference that many of us feel about how far we should go to make something illegal. It sure as heck hasn't helped having laws when it comes to stopping illegal drugs and that issue is terribly dangerous and destroying society as we knew it as children.

[2BNTV]

Some people climb mountains, some ski race downhill at breakneck speed, some kids climb tall trees and play on old fashion monkey bars, some people drive cars with bald tires, and maybe text at the same time, some scuba dive under water, some fly small planes through thunder storms, or sky dive out of perfectly good planes, or fly ultra lights with chain saw motors, some people continue to smoke, some overeat and are overweight, etc., etc. It is their choice. If you want to live in a highly regulated and controlled society consider moving to North Korea, or some such place.

Very good post. :smiley:

Some people get to be older by not doing too many dumb things and some do not. :D

[Mleeja]

They are probably very unfamiliar with golf carts in a setting other than golf courses.

Can you see getting around in a golf cart in the streets of Columbus, Ohio; New York City; Tampa; Las Vegas, or how about Los Angeles?

Before I retired and moved to TV there were many times I was sitting in Indianapolis rush hour traffic thinking I could be going faster in a golf cart!

[red tail]

where are these people from that run around yelling at people and blowing their horns when they don't like something?

[keithwand]

The Villages.

[CFrance]

You see this is the difference in what our mothers told us to do. Some mothers would have yelled it out. Some mothers would have smacked you for yelling it out.


I don't disagree with protecting children, but perhaps this discussion will be read by someone who will pause in allowing their golf cart to be driven by someone who is too young or by someone who might endanger their grandchildren.


It is a cultural difference we are discussing on whether it would help to yell out a criticism. Whether it would make them think, or just **** them off.
(snipped)
I wonder if it would do both. My initial reaction to someone yelling at me would be anger. But I would spend the rest of the day going over the incident in my head, and maybe some enlightenment would occur. Or maybe I wouldn't do that child-in-cart thing anymore just because I know what people are probably thinking.

If chatbrat said something, it might change the way they do things. If he didn't say anything, it definitely won't.

[Jaggy]

When I first read the OP original post.. I thought - how rude.. BYOB.. but then after reading all five pages of the following replys, I re-read the OP post and thought... yes, they were right to say something.. maybe it would make the cart driver and passengers think about how the children could get hurt.. but now I am hungry for a fried hamburger !!!!

[Taltarzac725]

They are probably very unfamiliar with golf carts in a setting other than golf courses.

Can you see getting around in a golf cart in the streets of Columbus, Ohio; New York City; Tampa; Las Vegas, or how about Los Angeles?

The Neighborhood Electric Vehicle Revolution? - CityLab (http://www.citylab.com/commute/2015/09/more-towns-are-falling-in-love-with-golf-carts/406081/)

I think I wrote too soon.

[rubicon]

That's true. I have met some law students who could tell you that the sky is red all the time and you might eventually believe them if you do not look outside. Same with some sales people I have come across.

Charm and good story telling will change people's attitudes and behavior quicker than rudeness though.

I do believe that suggestions like this would work in certain parts of the country like the Twin Cities but probably not with many New Yorkers at least not with the many New Yorkers I have met here in the Villages and in Palm Harbor. There are exceptions of course. A native Minnesotan who moved to New York and now lives in the Villages, maybe.

Tal As "New Yorker born and transplanted Twin cities guy I can tell you my response to your aforementioned students would be "do you think I just fell out of a tree."

[graciegirl]

When I first read the OP original post.. I thought - how rude.. BYOB.. but then after reading all five pages of the following replys, I re-read the OP post and thought... yes, they were right to say something.. maybe it would make the cart driver and passengers think about how the children could get hurt.. but now I am hungry for a fried hamburger !!!!



lololol Me too!! I am going to practice in front of a mirror yelling at people. I used to be good at it when the kids were little. I am also hungry, but for a meatball sandwich.


You see, people's minds can be changed. Pretty soon we will be all sounding like we are from...








you get it.

[rubicon]

Confrontation with people in golf cart or cars in my view is neither the right or the prudent thing to do. However the one exception for me is to see an adult mishandle a child in a store, etc. I disagree with this behavior and I have approached the offender. Additionally some guy was verbally abusing my wife at SAM's and I yelled from the crowd and pursued him but he turned into the road runner

[Chatbrat]

The yell was to make sure the 3 adults in the cart heard, the warning- we were not close enough for polite advice

The worst action, is in action

[Nucky]

You haven't run up against someone bigger and badder than you. You hail from my neck of the wood's. Back in Jersey I don't believe you would voice your opinion successfully the way you did in a beautiful retirement community. It seems to me that this is what gives people from other parts of our country the impression that we open our mouth to change feet when we are from tri state area. How do you know that the people that were bellowed at could even hear you? If those people were 3 times 7 then they have decisions to make and consequences to live with. People who think they are temporarily deputized are weak. I wonder if what you were driving in was equal to or greater than the golf cart those poor children were being transported in? A superior vehicle perhaps? I was going to pass on posting here but you are correct....the worst action is no action....take it easy on others....maybe their car was broken down and they had an emergency....the best move would have been to help them.

[Chatbrat]

I ran into real bad guys &I survived received 2 commendations from the NYPD for personally apprehending street criminals--this was , when I was younger &really nuts.

In Florida, if the situation warranted, we shoot .

[Nucky]

You win! I surrender again! I am not a Caped Crusader!

[Chatbrat]

Not a caped crusader just ex military (retired thru the reserves) with a ccw.

[red tail]

thank goodness this isn't new York!

[John_W]

Confrontation with people in golf cart or cars in my view is neither the right or the prudent thing to do...

We didn't have to look too far, this was on the noon news today.

Man run over in road-rage incident sent to hospital | WFTV (http://www.wftv.com/news/local/man-run-over-in-road-rage-incident-sent-to-hospital/198391250)

LEESBURG, Fla. - An argument about driving Monday resulted in one man being sent to the hospital after he was run over by another driver, investigators said.

Officials said 911 calls poured in after Christopher Detwieler was hit by a driver around 8:30 p.m. at the intersection of 441 and County Road 473 in Leesburg.

Deputies learned the hit-and-run was the result of a road rage incident. Deputies said the two drivers were arguing with each other while driving down 473.

"One vehicle tried to pass the other vehicle. The vehicle sped up and cut him off,” Fred Jones of the Lake County Sheriff’s Office said.

Jones said Detwieler got out of his car to confront the other driver, and accused him of putting his fiance and baby, who were in the car, in danger.

Deputies said Detwieler stepped in front of the other driver’s car and threatened to call police, but the driver ran him over and kept going.

Witnesses said the hit-and-run driver was a white male driving a black passenger car, possibly a Mazda, with a red passenger door.

Detwieler was airlifted to Orlando Health with serious injuries.

Deputies said drivers should never confront anyone during a road-rage incident.

[Marathon Man]

I ran into real bad guys &I survived received 2 commendations from the NYPD for personally apprehending street criminals--this was , when I was younger &really nuts.

In Florida, if the situation warranted, we shoot .

Not a caped crusader just ex military (retired thru the reserves) with a ccw.

Well, this got me thinking.

[dave harris]

Some people climb mountains, some ski race downhill at breakneck speed, some kids climb tall trees and play on old fashion monkey bars, some people drive cars with bald tires, and maybe text at the same time, some scuba dive under water, some fly small planes through thunder storms, or sky dive out of perfectly good planes, or fly ultra lights with chain saw motors, some people continue to smoke, some overeat and are overweight, etc., etc. It is their choice. If you want to live in a highly regulated and controlled society consider moving to North Korea, or some such place.

Good thinking, do away with all laws, we wouldn't want to be regulated.

[bagboy]

At least we know now that everyone can find a soul mate.

[kcrazorbackfan]

You and anyone else who thinks chatbrat should MYOB can keep your heads in the sand. Sooner of later you'll run out of oxygen.

Chatbrat, you were right to say something to them, maybe they will rethink their actions and save their children from a serious possible injury.

Chatbrat and Walter123, there are some real dumbs**ts out there - my post from last week with 4 people in a 2 person cart, the Jeep from New York that cut me off yesterday while I was merging into traffic, in my cart, at the St. James gate and then proceeded to try and turn on the MMP toward Sandhill, today the car travelling the same direction as I that turned right in front of me at Buttonwood and I still don't know how I missed it - probably everyone on TOTV has stories of witnessing idiotic acts, even the "head in the sand" naysayers.

[kcrazorbackfan]

We didn't have to look too far, this was on the noon news today.

Man run over in road-rage incident sent to hospital | WFTV (http://www.wftv.com/news/local/man-run-over-in-road-rage-incident-sent-to-hospital/198391250)

LEESBURG, Fla. - An argument about driving Monday resulted in one man being sent to the hospital after he was run over by another driver, investigators said.
Officials said 911 calls poured in after Christopher Detwieler was hit by a driver around 8:30 p.m. at the intersection of 441 and County Road 473 in Leesburg.
Deputies learned the hit-and-run was the result of a road rage incident. Deputies said the two drivers were arguing with each other while driving down 473.
"One vehicle tried to pass the other vehicle. The vehicle sped up and cut him off,” Fred Jones of the Lake County Sheriff’s Office said.
Jones said Detwieler got out of his car to confront the other driver, and accused him of putting his fiance and baby, who were in the car, in danger.
Deputies said Detwieler stepped in front of the other driver’s car and threatened to call police, but the driver ran him over and kept going.
Witnesses said the hit-and-run driver was a white male driving a black passenger car, possibly a Mazda, with a red passenger door.
Detwieler was airlifted to Orlando Health with serious injuries.
Deputies said drivers should never confront anyone during a road-rage incident.

What is wrong with this statement? No one wins during a road rage incident; if you're your dumb enough to step out of your car, don't ever step in front of the car driven by the person you're confronting - a big no no; trying to play "macho man" in front of fiancé and baby and ends up in the hospital. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[Walter123]

What is wrong with this statement? No one wins during a road rage incident; if you're your dumb enough to step out of your car, don't ever step in front of the car driven by the person you're confronting - a big no no; trying to play "macho man" in front of fiancé and baby and ends up in the hospital. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

:agree:

The guy who got out of his car was the aggressor as far as I'm concerned. The whole incident would probably be over when the light turned green. I don't know who was the cause of the dispute but as soon as you get out of your car to confront the other driver you become the aggressor. The guy in the hospital will now have some time to think about how he put his own family in danger. I'm glad he survived. He was given a second chance. The other driver was wrong for what he did too. Remember the incident a few months back at one of our gates? The guy in the front car got out to confront the guy behind him. Also dumb, dumb, dumb.

[graciegirl]

After reading all of this we did not read in the online news OR the Daily Sun that anyone described in this incident had an accident.


So hats off to you, guardian angels everywhere, good old bunny feet and cussed good luck.


Another day, another adventure.

[flyerguy]

In todays society it can be extremely dangerous to confront someone on or off the road. You don't know if the other person has a gun. In a split moment your life and the lives of those who love you can take a drastic turn. Don't be foolish and let your anger get the best of you, think about what your doing and weather you are willing risk what you have for someone else that you don't even know.

We've all been in situations where someone cut you off, tail gates, slams on the brakes, etc. And we have all seen red and want revenge. I know when that happens to me my better half knows I'm boiling over and takes steps to calm me down. "It's not worth it, are you willing to give your life and possibly mine just to get even with that jerk." "Worse, you can disable both of us for the rest of our lives, is this what you want after we worked so hard for so many years to get where we're at." "Are you going to let them take that all away from us?" "Let's stop and get a nice cup of coffee and a donut and talk about what we have planned."

Many years ago I saw two guys getting into it at a stop light, both emerged from their car with a gun, one guy had a young child in the car. The situation was defused by a off duty deputy. Think of what could have happened and how many lives would have been destroyed.

[bagboy]

In todays society it can be extremely dangerous to confront someone on or off the road. You don't know if the other person has a gun. In a split moment your life and the lives of those who love you can take a drastic turn. Don't be foolish and let your anger get the best of you, think about what your doing and weather you are willing risk what you have for someone else that you don't even know.

We've all been in situations where someone cut you off, tail gates, slams on the brakes, etc. And we have all seen red and want revenge. I know when that happens to me my better half knows I'm boiling over and takes steps to calm me down. "It's not worth it, are you willing to give your life and possibly mine just to get even with that jerk." "Worse, you can disable both of us for the rest of our lives, is this what you want after we worked so hard for so many years to get where we're at." "Are you going to let them take that all away from us?" "Let's stop and get a nice cup of coffee and a donut and talk about what we have planned."

Many years ago I saw two guys getting into it at a stop light, both emerged from their car with a gun, one guy had a young child in the car. The situation was defused by a off duty deputy. Think of what could have happened and how many lives would have been destroyed.

And, let's not forget the person in this thread that yelled at someone he doesn't know carries a weapon. This situation could have easily been tragically different. The other cart driver could have taken offense to a man and woman yelling at his/her family. A confrontation could have endued, and someone could have been hurt or killed.
As the OP stated in another thread, a guy was shot in Tampa because he threw popcorn on someone, like that was justified. I have two thoughts on this matter. If you see someone who you believe is endangering a child, call the police. And, if you are carrying a concealed weapon, keep a low profile and don't risk a confrontation with anyone.

[Marathon Man]

And, let's not forget the person in this thread that yelled at someone he doesn't know carries a weapon. This situation could have easily been tragically different. The other cart driver could have taken offense to a man and woman yelling at his/her family. A confrontation could have endued, and someone could have been hurt or killed.
As the OP stated in another thread, a guy was shot in Tampa because he threw popcorn on someone, like that was justified. I have two thoughts on this matter. If you see someone who you believe is endangering a child, call the police. And, if you are carrying a concealed weapon, keep a low profile and don't risk a confrontation with anyone.

I completely agree with this. Those that choose to carry, surely hold a responsibility to us all to avoid confrontation. And, especially, never start one. So we have a situation where someone carrying chose to take matters into his own hands when he saw a situation that he did not like. Where have we heard of this before? Oh yea. Right here in Florida a couple of years ago.

[John_W]

And, let's not forget the person in this thread that yelled at someone he doesn't know carries a weapon. This situation could have easily been tragically different. The other cart driver could have taken offense to a man and woman yelling at his/her family. A confrontation could have endued, and someone could have been hurt or killed...


This happened last September in The Villages, I've deleted the man's name and deleted some identifying information. This story comes from the online newspaper.

A 66-year-old Villages softball player is facing felony charges of assault and battery after he allegedly threatened a fellow Villager with a baseball bat when tempers flared on a golf cart path.

***** is accused of threatening a man over the age of 65 and striking his golf cart with the bat, according to an arrest report from the Sumter County Sheriff‘s Office.

At the time of the incident on Sept. 11, ****** was wearing a logo that deputies were later able to connect to a Villages softball team.

A week after the incident, ****** opted to turn himself in at the Sumter County Sheriff‘s Annex.

On the day of the incident, ****** was coming out of a tunnel at Mariposa Way and Morse Boulevard. ****** was turning out of the tunnel when the victim blew his horn and informed ******* that he had just run a stop sign, the arrest report indicates.

******* then slammed on his brakes, got out of his cart, grabbed the victim by the arm and tried to pull him out of his golf cart. ****** returned to his cart, retrieved a baseball bat and, after taking a batting stance, threatened to hit the other Villager in the head. ****** then allegedly hit the man’s golf cart with the bat. The victim then drove to the Sheriff’s Annex to report the incident.

Tracing the logo to a local softball team, a deputy initially made contact with ******* by phone. He said he would like to personally apologize to the other man and make restitution for any damage done to the golf cart.

On Friday, Sept. 18, ****** was arrested on charges of assault on a person over the age of 65, battery on a person over the age of 65, and criminal mischief with damage to property.

He was booked at the Sumter County Detention Center on $8,000 bond.

[snowbird22154]

There's NOTHING that can get me "steaming" (to put it lightly) more than someone YELLING at me for something that does not concern "them". Glad to see there are more than one of me... :beer3:

So, what do you yell at people in cars with children? Have not heard of one incident where a child has died in a golf cart accident here. Children die in cars daily. Yes, golf carts can be dangerous and fatalities have occurred while being in one. However, if driven safely, carefully and sanely, the risks are not that high. Maybe you should try the MYOB rule and not be so quick to try and wreck other people's pleasure.

[Nucky]

There's NOTHING that can get me "steaming" (to put it lightly) more than someone YELLING at me for something that does not concern "them". Glad to see there are more than one of me... :beer3:

And so we have the voice of reason. Thank You Snowbird22154. To The OP....It's better if you live your life, sounds like that should keep you busy, and leave others alone so they can live theirs. And I think, I'm not sure, if you do carry don't tell us all that "we shoot" as that could be taken as a veiled threat. I don't have to own a gun because I mind my own business and those around me who carry would protect me since I don't mind theirs. The real Caped Crusader is the one who can control their mouth. :super:

[Taltarzac725]

And so we have the voice of reason. Thank You Snowbird22154. To The OP....It's better if you live your life, sounds like that should keep you busy, and leave others alone so they can live theirs. And I think, I'm not sure, if you do carry don't tell us all that "we shoot" as that could be taken as a veiled threat. I don't have to own a gun because I mind my own business and those around me who carry would protect me since I don't mind theirs. The real Caped Crusader is the one who can control their mouth. :super:

I doubt if there are many golf cart drivers in the Villages packing heat who are ready and willing to use these weapons over some rude words.

A middle finger would be a much more common response to this kind of motherly advice coming from another golf cart driver. Or maybe a #$%$ *&^!

[Marathon Man]

I doubt if there are many golf cart drivers in the Villages packing heat who are ready and willing to use these weapons over some rude words.

A middle finger would be a much more common response to this kind of motherly advice coming from another golf cart driver. Or maybe a #$%$ *&^!

I completely agree. My concern is when you add the element of a hero-wanna-be and things can get ugly very quickly. Only a tiny fraction of us fit that, but it only takes one.

[Walter123]

There's NOTHING that can get me "steaming" (to put it lightly) more than someone YELLING at me for something that does not concern "them". Glad to see there are more than one of me... :beer3:

Thanks for letting us know that you have a short fuse. Therapy may help you.

As for me, I will continue to let people know when they are putting the lives or safety of others at risk. Where that heck would society be if everyone took the MYOB path. I am however selective, based upon the situation. Always have an out.
Remember the "Good Samaritan" law on a Seinfeld episode.

[Challenger]

Thanks for letting us know that you have a short fuse. Therapy may help you.

As for me, I will continue to let people know when they are putting the lives or safety of others at risk. Where that heck would society be if everyone took the MYOB path. I am however selective, based upon the situation. Always have an out.
Remember the "Good Samaritan" law on a Seinfeld episode.

Unfortunately children seldom have a voice when their irresponsible parents allow or take them into dangerous situations.

[Nucky]

Thanks for letting us know that you have a short fuse. Therapy may help you.

As for me, I will continue to let people know when they are putting the lives or safety of others at risk. Where that heck would society be if everyone took the MYOB path. I am however selective, based upon the situation. Always have an out.
Remember the "Good Samaritan" law on a Seinfeld episode.

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[Chatbrat]

I was a volunteer fireman when I lived in NJ, I carry my own AED in my vehicle-to those who insist on people to MYOB-if I see you collapse I just might do that.

[photo1902]

I was a volunteer fireman when I lived in NJ, I carry my own AED in my vehicle-to those who insist on people to MYOB-if I see you collapse I just might do that.

Apples and Oranges. There's a big difference between rendering first aid, and being a busybody.

[Walter123]

Apples and Oranges. There's a big difference between rendering first aid, and being a busybody.

Apples and Apples, Maybe if you're a "busybody" you can prevent somebody from NEEDING first aid or a coffin.

[Nucky]

Apples and Oranges. There's a big difference between rendering first aid, and being a busybody.

You speak the truth Mr. or Mrs. photo1902. Can you imagine working your whole life to get to TV as your payoff and then getting a director as your neighbor. Odd's seem to be in the favor of great neighbors but don't forget the famous TOTV statement made by another..."Common Sense Is Not A Flower That Grows In Everyones Garden". :pray:

[HimandMe]

As we were pulling thru the St. James gate yesterday-a golf cart was waiting to cross . This is the layout--Grandma driving-daughter holding a 3 month old on her right-son- in -law in the rear seat holding two under 2 infants one in each arm.

I shouted if anything goes wrong those kids are going to get hurt @ best. My wife said-hope you guys are real strong.

If you got guests with infants leave the cart home--use your Car--the infants will never know what they were riding in.

There's a saying "The truth will set you ( them ) free...but first it will phish you ( them) off.

[Marathon Man]

Glad to see alittle humor injected into this thread. Now that's the TOTV that I love.

[photo1902]

You speak the truth Mr. or Mrs. photo1902. Can you imagine working your whole life to get to TV as your payoff and then getting a director as your neighbor. Odd's seem to be in the favor of great neighbors but don't forget the famous TOTV statement made by another..."Common Sense Is Not A Flower That Grows In Everyones Garden". :pray:

:bigbow:

[Nucky]

Glad to see alittle humor injected into this thread. Now that's the TOTV that I love.

You are wise. I would prefer to laugh & smile because its good for me and those around me. It was posted about someone riding their motorcycle without a helmet and catching heat from someone who had a problem with that. I gave back my CDL A license and my motorcycle endorsement because of my respect for myself and others. If the Florida law says no helmets than that's it. I don't agree at all but I have no rite to voice it in the wrong forum or wrong way. I say a quick prayer for every bike that passes me I really do. I always think about Gary Busey but I don't transfer my thoughts and beliefs onto others...it serves no purpose other than glorifying oneself for a moment. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Taltarzac725]

You speak the truth Mr. or Mrs. photo1902. Can you imagine working your whole life to get to TV as your payoff and then getting a director as your neighbor. Odd's seem to be in the favor of great neighbors but don't forget the famous TOTV statement made by another..."Common Sense Is Not A Flower That Grows In Everyones Garden". :pray:

Director?

Do you mean an official of the Villages Community Development Districts? Movie director? Library director? Code for a control freak??

We had a neighbor who was big in Villages' local politics and he was one of the best neighbors' we have had anywhere.

Some Library Directors are great people; some are real *********s! And some are something in-between.

Probably the same with movie directors.

I have dealt with a lot of library directors since 1983-1984 or so. First in library school at the University of Denver getting my MA and then later while investigating practical materials for survivors/victims of crimes in libraries and attitudes towards these starting about the same time with the Law Library Director at the University of Denver Law Library, Al Coco, Jr. He has been kind of a role model in my work. http://www.nccu.edu/formsdocs/proxy.cfm?file_id=2779

Finding the law : a workbook on legal research for
laypersons / prepared for Bureau of Land
Management, Branch of Survey and Mapping
Development, Denver Service Center by Al Coco.
Legal research--
United States--
Popular works. KF240 .C527 1986

[Nucky]

Chances are, Nucky, before you hit the ground in TV you will have received the necessary defibrillator shock. Most neighborhoods have their own AEDs, and a trained squad of your neighbors to administer it. In addition, many buildings have them, each rec center has them, all Community Watch trucks have them. Then there are all the firefighters, police, and 250 volunteers in the Community Emergency Response Team (CERT). All of these folks are the reason why, if you have a sudden cardiac arrest, the survival rate in TV is 60% vs 7 % nationally.

:)

I have to stop getting involved in discussions like this dbussone that should improve my chances of survival greatly. Just Kidding. I did know the rate was much higher for survival but I never knew why. Bravo to those who give of themselves for others. That is a beautiful thing. I would like to be involved in the support of these wonderful people in a way I can handle when we land. Amazing stuff!

[Nucky]

Director?

Do you mean an official of the Villages Community Development Districts? Movie director? Library director? Code for a control freak??

We had a neighbor who was big in Villages' local politics and he was one of the best neighbors' we have had anywhere.

Some Library Directors are great people; some are real *********s! And some are something in-between.

Probably the same with movie directors.

I have dealt with a lot of library directors since 1983-1984 or so. First in library school at the University of Denver getting my MA and then later while investigating practical materials for survivors/victims of crimes in libraries and attitudes towards these starting about the same time with the Law Library Director at the University of Denver Law Library, Al Coco, Jr. He has been kind of a role model in my work.

I feel like I'm on Let's Make A Deal.....OK Monte Hall...I'll take door #4 Code For Control Freak!

[Taltarzac725]

I feel like I'm on Let's Make A Deal.....OK Monte Hall...I'll take door #4 Code For Control Freak!

I know a lot of them. They are everywhere. I do wonder what Freud would have made of these people? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania

What is Megalomania? (with pictures) (http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-megalomania.htm)

[Barefoot]

My initial reaction to someone yelling at me would be anger. But I would spend the rest of the day going over the incident in my head, and maybe some enlightenment would occur. Or maybe I wouldn't do that child-in-cart thing anymore just because I know what people are probably thinking.

If chatbrat said something, it might change the way they do things. If he didn't say anything, it definitely won't.

My thoughts also. :agree:

[Buckeye Bob]

They are probably very unfamiliar with golf carts in a setting other than golf courses.

Can you see getting around in a golf cart in the streets of Columbus, Ohio; New York City; Tampa; Las Vegas, or how about Los Angeles?

I will admit that I'm not perfect when driving my golf cart but what I've seen twice just this week blew my mind. In one instance, there were 2 golf carts sitting side by side on the cart path and had to use my horn to get them to move (no way to get around them). Then tonight, I'm going north on the path on Morse and right where there is an option to go right and to a tunnel, there were 3 carts sitting in the middle of the path. It was dark and again no way around or through them. If your lost, want to chit chat with someone, get the hell off the cart path. Now I feel better.:pray:

[flyerguy]

I will admit that I'm not perfect when driving my golf cart but what I've seen twice just this week blew my mind. In one instance, there were 2 golf carts sitting side by side on the cart path and had to use my horn to get them to move (no way to get around them). Then tonight, I'm going north on the path on Morse and right where there is an option to go right and to a tunnel, there were 3 carts sitting in the middle of the path. It was dark and again no way around or through them. If your lost, want to chit chat with someone, get the hell off the cart path. Now I feel better.:pray:

Had that happen to me many times. The thing that really bothers me is that they give you the evil look and attitude and make sure they take their sweet time moving.

[Taltarzac725]

I will admit that I'm not perfect when driving my golf cart but what I've seen twice just this week blew my mind. In one instance, there were 2 golf carts sitting side by side on the cart path and had to use my horn to get them to move (no way to get around them). Then tonight, I'm going north on the path on Morse and right where there is an option to go right and to a tunnel, there were 3 carts sitting in the middle of the path. It was dark and again no way around or through them. If your lost, want to chit chat with someone, get the hell off the cart path. Now I feel better.:pray:

That would bother me too. I have not had that happen fortunately.

Yesterday I was coming out of the Southern Trace Shopping Center in the golf cart and there is a side golf cart path that is rather steep. There was a man waiting to turn onto the level T-bone golf path. He turned around and told me to back up as he might move back when he started moving. Nothing was in back of me so I did so. And his golf cart did fall back about three feet when he started his turn. Just good courtesy driving on his part.

[looneycat]

As we were pulling thru the St. James gate yesterday-a golf cart was waiting to cross . This is the layout--Grandma driving-daughter holding a 3 month old on her right-son- in -law in the rear seat holding two under 2 infants one in each arm.

I shouted if anything goes wrong those kids are going to get hurt @ best. My wife said-hope you guys are real strong.

If you got guests with infants leave the cart home--use your Car--the infants will never know what they were riding in.

I find myself in the uncomfortable posit:ho:ion of agreeing with you 100% :ho:

the simple physics p (momentum) = m (mass) x v (velocity)
20mph = 29.33 ft per sec
10lb child x 20mph = 293 ft/lbs per sec so if the cart came to an instant stop son in law in back is trying to hold almost 600 lbs of baby --- ain't gonna happen.

[kittygilchrist]

To the OP, I hope they heard you. People get all happy coming to paradise and do not know carts are treacherous.
See something, say something, when every nerve in you wants to protect life.
There should be a state law, hell with development policies.
But then, motorcycle riders do not have to wear helmets. Man down, they call it when another one dies.
Rant over.


Disclaimer I did not read every post.

[Chatbrat]

Yesterday I saw a smart granny, she had a 5 year old strapped in with a double shoulder harness an across the chest belt-that kid will stay in his seat.

[Taltarzac725]

Yesterday I saw a smart granny, she had a 5 year old strapped in with a double shoulder harness an across the chest belt-that kid will stay in his seat.

I saw three or four kids strapped into a golf cart last week. They were all smaller children but they each were seat belted in some way.

[Chatbrat]

According to the online paper a juvenile driving a golf cart ,got injured yesterday- the photo is quite convincing--for not having infants or small children in a golf cart

Very convincing , unless you are blind

[CritterLover]

If you don't have kindness in your heart, it's not going to come across as if you do, regardless of your words. If you truly mean well, your motives will likely not be questioned.

[rexxfan]

Wow, 10 pages in this thread already. Seriously?
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[Nucky]

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[dewilson58]

Wow, 10 pages in this thread already. Seriously?
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Bob C

I only have four pages...............set your user preferences.

:MOJE_whot:

[graciegirl]

If you don't have kindness in your heart, it's not going to come across as if you do, regardless of your words. If you truly mean well, your motives will likely not be questioned.





You just couldn't have said what I believe any better.

[xcaligirl]

I don't say anything to people because if they are that stupid to have 4 or more infants/children without seat belts in a golf cart than they wouldn't understand anyway! Goes right back to 'can't fix stupid'!

[flyerguy]

I don't say anything to people because if they are that stupid to have 4 or more infants/children without seat belts in a golf cart than they wouldn't understand anyway! Goes right back to 'can't fix stupid'!

Bingo! I guess a lot of folks think bad things can't happen on a golf cart.