Baby Boomers ruining TV ?

[RickeyD]

While noshing at Panera in LSL we overhead a 70ish couple telling an acquaintance why they were moving from TV back to West Palm. Apparently it's the unfriendly neighborhood boomers that although may be personable are not neighborhood social. " they have ruined TV" he complained in not too low of a voice. The acquaintance turned to leave and gave us a somewhat understandable look. Well, I was a bit taken back but composed myself knowing it wasn't personal. But, it got me thinking ? Was his experience isolated to his neighborhood or is it widespread ? Being here only 4 times a year for a week at a time doesn't give me a true sense.

[aln]

To be known, 'boomers' are turning 70 this year. Most of my peers are boomers and all of them in my group of 16 golfers are over 65. I don't think were 'ruining' TV. In fact we all lover TV. We try to be courteous and help elders out when needed.

I think his problem is isolated.

[njbchbum]

I can understand their feelings. Just spend the time reading the disparaging posts here and on the on-line news source. So many comments advising folks NOT to move into the original/historic villages because the neighbors are so much older and friendships already established, yada, yada, yada. And then there are those posts whining about the driving ability or lack of same of 'old people'. Life is too short to live amongst whiners and complainers! Hope they are happy with their return - they have earned it.

[graciegirl]

While noshing at Panera in LSL we overhead a 70ish couple telling an acquaintance why they were moving from TV back to West Palm. Apparently it's the unfriendly neighborhood boomers that although may be personable are not neighborhood social. " they have ruined TV" he complained in not too low of a voice. The acquaintance turned to leave and gave us a somewhat understandable look. Well, I was a bit taken back but composed myself knowing it wasn't personal. But, it got me thinking ? Was his experience isolated to his neighborhood or is it widespread ? Being here only 4 times a year for a week at a time doesn't give me a true sense.





OH for Heavens sake. I didn't know you were here only for four weeks outa the entire year! You are having separation anxiety and jealous longings for the Koolaid gang. I won't be mean to you any more. Why don't you get your self down here and giggle and smile and dance with all of us year 'round? Are you just finishing college because you are 22?

[RickeyD]

OH for Heavens sake. I didn't know you were here only for four weeks outa the entire year! You are having separation anxiety and jealous longings for the Koolaid gang. I won't be mean to you any more. Why don't you get your self down here and giggle and smile and dance with all of us year 'round? Are you just finishing college because you are 22?



Getting tired of you paddling my rear GG. But, as the good Catholic boy I am I won't complain.

[Mikeod]

Seems isolated to certain neighborhoods, not just the historic side. We had a neighbor who moved across 466A to get a larger home. One of her new neighbors asked how old they were and was aghast when told, and the relationship went downhill from there. They felt very unwelcome in their new place and eventually moved to another home closer to Brownwood. There they have great rapport with their neighbors of various ages. We visited them in their new home during the holidays and they had invited several of their new neighbors over. We had a great time.

In our neighborhood, we have people ranging from their 90's to their 50's and we mix and mingle over golf, cards, and other activities without any concern about ages. It's just a number.

[Chi-Town]

Baby boomers are anywhere from 52 to 70. That is the major Villages demograpic now. There is a difference between boomers and those older, but chalk it up to having different perspectives growing up. But we all came here for the same reason, and that is the major unifying factor.

[justjim]

Baby Boomers are residents born during the post World War two baby boom between years 1946 and 1964. Their ages would be approximately between 52 and 70 years old. This age group generally would be very active in The Villages. Perhaps some might be too active to participate in some or all of the neighborhood activities.

We have owned homes in four different neighborhoods in The Villages. It's a fact not all neighbors are the same wheather you live in The Villages or another retirement community or the City you lived in prior to retirement. Its about people not age IMHO. In short, you can be 55, 65, 75 or 85 and be a friendly or unfriendly neighbor----age has little or nothing to do with it.

[2BNTV]

Just missed being in the baby boom age but I think this is an isolated case.

I think the baby boomers have lived long enough to be courteous and respectful.

Just thinking out loud but maybe some people don't like the fact that most baby boomers are more active and really enjoy TV. To me, age is just a number. If one is in decent shape and enjoys all of TV has to offer, I don't see a problem.

[RickeyD]

Baby boomers are anywhere from 52 to 70. That is the major Villages demograpic now. There is a difference between boomers and those older, but chalk it up to having different perspectives growing up. But we all came here for the same reason, and that is the major unifying factor.



I have always respected my elders and will continue to do so as I am now a young elder.

[billethkid]

I think the person that was over heard is just one of those who take an isloated incident, put a label on it and then spread it as though it were a general condition.

Not at all representative of TV residents regardless the age/label!

[RickeyD]

I think the person that was over heard is just one of those who take an isloated incident, put a label on it and then spread it as though it were a general condition.

Not at all representative of TV residents regardless the age/label!



So, West Palm should solve his issue.

[dewilson58]

While noshing at Panera in LSL we overhead a 70ish couple telling an acquaintance why they were moving from TV back to West Palm. Apparently it's the unfriendly neighborhood boomers that although may be personable are not neighborhood social. " they have ruined TV" he complained in not too low of a voice. The acquaintance turned to leave and gave us a somewhat understandable look. Well, I was a bit taken back but composed myself knowing it wasn't personal. But, it got me thinking ? Was his experience isolated to his neighborhood or is it widespread ? Being here only 4 times a year for a week at a time doesn't give me a true sense.


So that is why the old people next door are moving.

:throwtomatoes:

[RickeyD]

So that is why the old people next door are moving.



:throwtomatoes:



Are you Dennis or Mr. Wilson ?

[rubicon]

I don't mind living amongst the elderly. I just hate it when elderly people act old. What the OP's describes is not an elderly issue but people who moved into the wrong neighborhoods. Its one of the reasons I will not move. My neighbors are active caring human beings who go out of their way to help and often remain reticent to spare hurt feelings.

[dewilson58]

Are you Dennis or Mr. Wilson ?


FYI........Dennis turns 65 this year.

[Polar Bear]

I think the person that was over heard is just one of those who take an isloated incident, put a label on it and then spread it as though it were a general condition...
Yep. Which is not at all unusual.

[rubicon]

FYI........Dennis turns 65 this year.

Kids. geezzz

[Bonny]

I for one am definitely one of those boomers at 65.
When we moved here full time I was 48 & hubby was 49. We were 2 of the youngest here. Never made to feel we didn't belong.
Maybe they are just old fuddie duddies who don't like to have fun. Probably a good thing they move. :D

[rubicon]

Acceptance takes many forms

[Nucky]

I also respect those who respect me. Age has nothing to do with it. Maybe the person with the observation was just having a bad day. Life is about being happy & solving problems. We all have some practice at both. Can't we all just get along?

[Retiring]

While noshing at Panera in LSL we overhead a 70ish couple telling an acquaintance why they were moving from TV back to West Palm. Apparently it's the unfriendly neighborhood boomers that although may be personable are not neighborhood social. " they have ruined TV" he complained in not too low of a voice. The acquaintance turned to leave and gave us a somewhat understandable look. Well, I was a bit taken back but composed myself knowing it wasn't personal. But, it got me thinking ? Was his experience isolated to his neighborhood or is it widespread ? Being here only 4 times a year for a week at a time doesn't give me a true sense.

What is “neighborhood social?” Do you mean doing things together like golf or shows? I think moving to W. Palm has little to do with their immediate neighbors. It’s easier to find another neighborhood within TV than move to another part of the State. Clearly they didn’t find TV to be their cup of tea and they’re leaving. TV is not for everyone and thankfully so. If it were for everyone it would be vertical city with millions rather than 100k.

Curious, does it matter if the people on your block are sociable? I truly never cared if my immediate neighbors were social butterflies or hermits. We all have cars, my neighborhood is Central FL and within Cent. FL I can find people with like interests.

[RickeyD]

What is “neighborhood social?” Do you mean doing things together like golf or shows? I think moving to W. Palm has little to do with their immediate neighbors. It’s easier to find another neighborhood within TV than move to another part of the State. Clearly they didn’t find TV to be their cup of tea and they’re leaving. TV is not for everyone and thankfully so. If it were for everyone it would be vertical city with millions rather than 100k.

Curious, does it matter if the people on your block are sociable? I truly never cared if my immediate neighbors were social butterflies or hermits. We all have cars, my neighborhood is Central FL and within Cent. FL I can find people with like interests.

"Neighborhood social" stickball, kick the can, ringolevio, hanging on the street corner, bumper surfing and the like.

[Greg Nelson]

melding takes time

[fred53]

Categorizing a person because of their age is foolish, unoriginal and ignorant. There are wonderful people from all age groups and backgrounds. Only a narrow minded person would think a particular age group is judged by a bad few.

[CFrance]

I can understand their feelings. Just spend the time reading the disparaging posts here and on the on-line news source. So many comments advising folks NOT to move into the original/historic villages because the neighbors are so much older and friendships already established, yada, yada, yada. And then there are those posts whining about the driving ability or lack of same of 'old people'. Life is too short to live amongst whiners and complainers! Hope they are happy with their return - they have earned it.
I think you are making a blanket accusation.

[graciegirl]

Categorizing a person because of their age is foolish, unoriginal and ignorant. There are wonderful people from all age groups and backgrounds. Only a narrow minded person would think a particular age group is judged by a bad few.



True dat.

[CassieInVa]

Lol, Gracie

[Barefoot]

If one is in decent shape and enjoys all of TV has to offer, I don't see a problem.
I've met people with mobility issues who can't enjoy a variety of activities.
But often they are still warm, welcoming and friendly neighbors, and they contribute a lot to their community.

[njbchbum]

I think you are making a blanket accusation.

More like a sweeping generality - based on reading the sources cited.

We love our manufactured on the original side and each of our villages here and all of the original residents we know here! Neighborly social - or not- they're adorable and respectful.

[Cedwards38]

As a Baby Boomer I take no offense. The Villages does not feel "ruined" to me. I actually can not figure out what spurred this person to feel as they do, but the good news for them is that they are free to move somewhere else where they are more comfortable.:boom:ers.

[Greg Nelson]

with over 6,000 'baby boomers' turning 65 east of the Mississippi DAILY where else are they going to go?

[Polar Bear]

True dat.

Ibid.

[flyerguy]

There is no One Size fits All community. It's a roll of the dice when you move into a neighborhood, especially if it's well established. Folks are set in their way and if you can't accept that it's not their fault.

[dewilson58]

Baby Boomers ruining TV


And golfers are ruining the golf courses.

[Figuringitout]

It is too bad this couple felt like they had to move away because people here are not friendly, we also have run into rude people but we live in the older section and love it. Most of our neighbors are in their 80's, we are in our early 60's. We don't go from house to house socializing but we meet in the street to clean up oak leaves and help each other out and enjoy the company. You don't have to be the same age to appreciate each other the people that don't want the older people around are not thinking that just in a few short years they will be the older people, hopefully they will not be treated the way they are treating the aged folks now. Most of the friendly people here are in their 80-90's and were taught values and kindness.

[Nucky]

It is too bad this couple felt like they had to move away because people here are not friendly, we also have run into rude people but we live in the older section and love it. Most of our neighbors are in their 80's, we are in our early 60's. We don't go from house to house socializing but we meet in the street to clean up oak leaves and help each other out and enjoy the company. You don't have to be the same age to appreciate each other the people that don't want the older people around are not thinking that just in a few short years they will be the older people, hopefully they will not be treated the way they are treating the aged folks now. Most of the friendly people here are in their 80-90's and were taught values and kindness.

I belong to a club where people are selected to speak on various topics. Many friends who are fine people in many ways squirm when one of the older members is chosen to speak. They are missing out on a valuable life gift. The older men have so many memories from a time when life was hard and families where ten children or more. I find it fascinating to hear their stories. Sometimes they apologize for speaking to long, can't be long enough for me. To be a student of life you can't do the talking, you have to listen sometimes! I don't worry to much about neighbors but have had some doozies in my life. All we can do is be a good neighbor and not rock the boat. Figuringitout you made my day. :mademyday:

[graciegirl]

I belong to a club where people are selected to speak on various topics. Many friends who are fine people in many ways squirm when one of the older members is chosen to speak. They are missing out on a valuable life gift. The older men have so many memories from a time when life was hard and families where ten children or more. I find it fascinating to hear their stories. Sometimes they apologize for speaking to long, can't be long enough for me. To be a student of life you can't do the talking, you have to listen sometimes! I don't worry to much about neighbors but have had some doozies in my life. All we can do is be a good neighbor and not rock the boat. Figuringitout you made my day. :mademyday:
Ah. I so agree. Sometimes it is best to not have the last word when there are differences in a neighborhood. We have never had words with neighbors, but we have swallowed a few words. I like people in general, all ages, some I am drawn to more than others, but not because of their age. It takes some sensitivity to see the 16 year old trapped inside all of us, the person who wants to do it right and may feel insecure and loves to laugh and to dance.

[HimandMe]

I belong to a club where people are selected to speak on various topics. Many friends who are fine people in many ways squirm when one of the older members is chosen to speak. They are missing out on a valuable life gift. The older men have so many memories from a time when life was hard and families where ten children or more. I find it fascinating to hear their stories. Sometimes they apologize for speaking to long, can't be long enough for me. To be a student of life you can't do the talking, you have to listen sometimes! I don't worry to much about neighbors but have had some doozies in my life. All we can do is be a good neighbor and not rock the boat. Figuringitout you made my day. :mademyday:

What a great club! Is it in TV?

Re Boomers - sometimes people leave for various reasons and use a sour grapes excuse.....the majority are wonderful, helpful people here!

[ajbrown]

What is “neighborhood social?” Do you mean doing things together like golf or shows? I think moving to W. Palm has little to do with their immediate neighbors. It’s easier to find another neighborhood within TV than move to another part of the State. Clearly they didn’t find TV to be their cup of tea and they’re leaving. TV is not for everyone and thankfully so. If it were for everyone it would be vertical city with millions rather than 100k.

Curious, does it matter if the people on your block are sociable? I truly never cared if my immediate neighbors were social butterflies or hermits. We all have cars, my neighborhood is Central FL and within Cent. FL I can find people with like interests.

Same thing I wondered, no clue what being neighborhood social means.

I do not go to monthly social events at rec centers for trivia or bingo as it is not my thing.

I think I am a good neighbor, I think my neighbors like me as we converse and catch up, but maybe I better check :shocked:

[RickeyD]

Same thing I wondered, no clue what being neighborhood social means.



I do not go to monthly social events at rec centers for trivia or bingo as it is not my thing.



I think I am a good neighbor, I think my neighbors like me as we converse and catch up, but maybe I better check :shocked:



Growing up in Brooklyn prior to the seventies the "neighborhood" was your world. Nothing existing outside your neigh hood because everyone you knew lived there. All your family and neighbors which were like family. Irish, Italian, German. We all got along and we were all family.
In this new age of play dates and kids driving cars at 16 that concept no longer exists. If you grew up in a rural area this concept may not exist. The "neighborhood" was a close knit group of brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles and friends who shared the common bond of the "neighborhood".
The gentleman in question did appear to have been of Italian descent with a distinct Brooklyn accent.

[manaboutown]

As I understand it most of the time when new neighborhoods are built and the first homeowners move in they tend to bond with one another. This occurs in regular suburban developments as well as in 55 and over projects. It can take a while for a new resident to break into an established neighborhood clique if it can be done at all. Although ultimately turnover occurs it can take years.

From what I have read as an active adult community ages and new residents purchase homes the community eventually comprises "young old" and "old old" components. The latter usually do not want to pay to develop new or upgrade existing amenities, or even maintain them. They no longer use many of the amenities and do not want their amenities costs and taxes to rise since they are on fixed incomes. The young old want upgraded amenities and probably new and different amenities. This may result in conflict between the young old and the old old.

In TV, since the developer controls most aspects of it and wants to attract new buyers and earn income from commercial infrastructure it owns, it maintainss, upgrades and builds new facilities. Witness the new homes being built in the historic area. As long as the developer runs the show TV should be able to avert many of the problems other active adult retirement communities operated by their residents face. To me, that is a very good thing!

[RickeyD]

As I understand it most of the time when new neighborhoods are built and the first homeowners move in they tend to bond with one another. This occurs in regular suburban developments as well as in 55 and over projects. It can take a while for a new resident to break into an established neighborhood clique if it can be done at all. Although ultimately turnover occurs it can take years.

From what I have read as an active adult community ages and new residents purchase homes the community eventually comprises "young old" and "old old" components. The latter usually do not want to pay to develop new or upgrade existing amenities, or even maintain them. They no longer use many of the amenities and do not want their amenities costs and taxes to rise since they are on fixed incomes. The young old want upgraded amenities and probably new and different amenities. This may result in conflict between the young old and the old old.

In TV, since the developer controls most aspects of it and wants to attract new buyers and earn income from commercial infrastructure it owns, it maintainss, upgrades and builds new facilities. Witness the new homes being built in the historic area. As long as the developer runs the show TV should be able to avert many of the problems other active adult retirement communities operated by their residents face. To me, that is a very good thing!



Good analysis.

[rexxfan]

I honestly think that the sentiment was likely motivated more by sadness at losing more and more like-aged friends than by any serious dislike for boomers (and let me go on record that I really dislike that term, as if everyone born during a certain span of years can be characterized by such a simple, unthinking stereotype). In any event, I think a bit more compassion for what they're likely going through and feeling is in order rather than jumping to the conclusion that prejudice is involved. That only divides us (more than we already are, if that's possible). I for one would be honored to have anyone of any age as a friend, but would especially value ones wiser than I (Lord knows I could use some more wisdom, and friends for that matter).
--
Bob C

[asianthree]

House #1 most residents were older than my parents. House #2 much younger crowd, house #3 mixed age range, but some do seem unhappy as homes are selling to the younger crowd. I am only here one month at a time three times a year. Other half is here 9ish months.

[MDLNB]

I have only been here for a few years. I moved into an older neighborhood consisting of original owners, many of them frequently passing away or moving to assisted living or home to family. I had a great home in the woods up North, but love my wife enough to realize that she will thrive longer in a social environment. She is radiant and happy here, and that makes me happy in turn. I can live anywhere, as long I am with her. And she loves the Villages social life. Everyone likes my wife and she is very, very active. Me? I kind of stick to myself. I am one of the youngest in my neighborhood, at 66 years old out of a hundred unit community. I do not feel comfortable at neighborhood socials, even though I get along with all my neighbors. I just prefer to putter around the house, working on projects to improve the home. When I play a sport, I do not like the schedule of being in a league so I just wonder in and join the game, such as Pickle Ball. It's not that I don't like people, I just don't feel comfortable with close relationships with groups of people. I realize that this is not a Villages trait, but just a quirk in my personality. I do not mean to be anti-social, but it probably appears that way to my neighbors. I have always willingly assisted my neighbors when needed. I avoid neighborhood socials most of the time, because they seem to only have them when the Snow Birds are here. So, I am happy here and as long as my neighbors accept me as I am, regardless of my seemingly anti-social behavior I intend to spend my remaining years (at least 30 hopefully) quietly content in The Villages.

That said, I also complain a bit regarding traffic in The Villages. I also complain quietly about my cable being weak when all the Snow Birds are in town. I also complain about the long lines at the restaurants when the Snow Birds are here. But, I reserve that right as a "young" member of the senior community here in MY HOME in The Villages. These are things that I willingly endure for the happiness of the love of my life. After being here a year, my wife told me that I could get rid of our house up North because this IS her home.

This place is not for everyone. For some folks, they will never find that perfect place to settle down. This place is not perfect, but I do know that I will have a longer life with my love than I would probably have anywhere else that I can think of. My wife is more important than my neighbors. I have been blessed to have good neighbors though. They seem to accept me as I am and they make my wife happy and accepted.

I am a boomer that has been blessed to be able to live this life style. I am grateful for this and also glad that this place is not for everyone. Regardless of the seemingly rude or less than friendly nature of some folks, generally speaking I have found MOST Villagers to be kind, friendly and helpful.

God Bless You.

[Mimi3389]

If the Boomers don't come, TV will not be able to sustain the lifestyle!!!

[billethkid]

I assume any/some who talk about the "older" folks do understand it is a meaningless term. They surely must know they themselves are the elders to those coming from anywhere behind them in age.

It does not matter whether the person overheard was "older", white, black, yellow, right or left, blonde or bald, religious or not, etc, etc...........their comment(s) represented the thinking of ONE PERSON and not to be considered a general representation.

[twoplanekid]

I have only been here for a few years. I moved into an older neighborhood consisting of original owners, many of them frequently passing away or moving to assisted living or home to family. I had a great home in the woods up North, but love my wife enough to realize that she will thrive longer in a social environment. She is radiant and happy here, and that makes me happy in turn. I can live anywhere, as long I am with her. And she loves the Villages social life. Everyone likes my wife and she is very, very active. Me? I kind of stick to myself. I am one of the youngest in my neighborhood, at 66 years old out of a hundred unit community. I do not feel comfortable at neighborhood socials, even though I get along with all my neighbors. I just prefer to putter around the house, working on projects to improve the home. When I play a sport, I do not like the schedule of being in a league so I just wonder in and join the game, such as Pickle Ball. It's not that I don't like people, I just don't feel comfortable with close relationships with groups of people. I realize that this is not a Villages trait, but just a quirk in my personality. I do not mean to be anti-social, but it probably appears that way to my neighbors. I have always willingly assisted my neighbors when needed. I avoid neighborhood socials most of the time, because they seem to only have them when the Snow Birds are here. So, I am happy here and as long as my neighbors accept me as I am, regardless of my seemingly anti-social behavior I intend to spend my remaining years (at least 30 hopefully) quietly content in The Villages.

That said, I also complain a bit regarding traffic in The Villages. I also complain quietly about my cable being weak when all the Snow Birds are in town. I also complain about the long lines at the restaurants when the Snow Birds are here. But, I reserve that right as a "young" member of the senior community here in MY HOME in The Villages. These are things that I willingly endure for the happiness of the love of my life. After being here a year, my wife told me that I could get rid of our house up North because this IS her home.

This place is not for everyone. For some folks, they will never find that perfect place to settle down. This place is not perfect, but I do know that I will have a longer life with my love than I would probably have anywhere else that I can think of. My wife is more important than my neighbors. I have been blessed to have good neighbors though. They seem to accept me as I am and they make my wife happy and accepted.

I am a boomer that has been blessed to be able to live this life style. I am grateful for this and also glad that this place is not for everyone. Regardless of the seemingly rude or less than friendly nature of some folks, generally speaking I have found MOST Villagers to be kind, friendly and helpful.

God Bless You.

:beer3:

[CFrance]

I have only been here for a few years. I moved into an older neighborhood consisting of original owners, many of them frequently passing away or moving to assisted living or home to family. I had a great home in the woods up North, but love my wife enough to realize that she will thrive longer in a social environment. She is radiant and happy here, and that makes me happy in turn. I can live anywhere, as long I am with her. And she loves the Villages social life. Everyone likes my wife and she is very, very active. Me? I kind of stick to myself. I am one of the youngest in my neighborhood, at 66 years old out of a hundred unit community. I do not feel comfortable at neighborhood socials, even though I get along with all my neighbors. I just prefer to putter around the house, working on projects to improve the home. When I play a sport, I do not like the schedule of being in a league so I just wonder in and join the game, such as Pickle Ball. It's not that I don't like people, I just don't feel comfortable with close relationships with groups of people. I realize that this is not a Villages trait, but just a quirk in my personality. I do not mean to be anti-social, but it probably appears that way to my neighbors. I have always willingly assisted my neighbors when needed. I avoid neighborhood socials most of the time, because they seem to only have them when the Snow Birds are here. So, I am happy here and as long as my neighbors accept me as I am, regardless of my seemingly anti-social behavior I intend to spend my remaining years (at least 30 hopefully) quietly content in The Villages.

That said, I also complain a bit regarding traffic in The Villages. I also complain quietly about my cable being weak when all the Snow Birds are in town. I also complain about the long lines at the restaurants when the Snow Birds are here. But, I reserve that right as a "young" member of the senior community here in MY HOME in The Villages. These are things that I willingly endure for the happiness of the love of my life. After being here a year, my wife told me that I could get rid of our house up North because this IS her home.

This place is not for everyone. For some folks, they will never find that perfect place to settle down. This place is not perfect, but I do know that I will have a longer life with my love than I would probably have anywhere else that I can think of. My wife is more important than my neighbors. I have been blessed to have good neighbors though. They seem to accept me as I am and they make my wife happy and accepted.

I am a boomer that has been blessed to be able to live this life style. I am grateful for this and also glad that this place is not for everyone. Regardless of the seemingly rude or less than friendly nature of some folks, generally speaking I have found MOST Villagers to be kind, friendly and helpful.

God Bless You.
You sound like someone I know, and I totally understand where you're coming from. Very well put.:thumbup:

[CFrance]

I assume any/some who talk about the "older" folks do understand it is a meaningless term. They surely must know they themselves are the elders to those coming from anywhere behind them in age.

It does not matter whether the person overheard was "older", white, black, yellow, right or left, blonde or bald, religious or not, etc, etc...........their comment(s) represented the thinking of ONE PERSON and not to be considered a general representation.
:ho:

[theruizs]

My wife and I have lived here full time four years now. We are baby boomers in our 60s. We like our neighbors and would do anything for any of them, or anyone else for that matter. But we just didn't click entirely with some of them. They are all very nice, respectful people that we are happy to be neighbors with but we don't "socialize" with them. We have made close friends with other Villagers we have met, our closest friends are in their 70s. I don't think that makes us bad neighbors and if someone moves from the villages because they lack socialization, they are not trying very hard. If you really want to find friends to be social with, it isn't really very hard at all.

[OldManTime]

What I see is the ones that hit the headlines the most are under 70, drunken, arrested, and yes it puts "The Villages" as ugly place to live.

[billethkid]

I must be doing something wrong because I do not judge people by their age or color or politics or religion.

In my humble opinion, what a person says and does is the more real measure.

[cquick]

:clap2:
aw, now we "Baby Boomers" are getting picked on.....that's all right, we have been waiting for retirement for a long time!

[Bay Kid]

Age is not the problem....

[tomwed]

Age is not the problem....

.....intolerance is.

[HoosierPa]

If Baby Boomers are not welcome in The Villages, who would they build all the new houses for ?

[DigitalGranny]

I'm a baby boomer. I live on the historic side (still laugh every time I say that!) and my neighbors on both sides are original owners (my father's age). I love it here. People of all ages are friendly and kind. We have lots in common and plenty to talk about when we meet at the pool, the dog park, the Rec center or the town square. Maybe it's just more friendly here, but I suspect most villages are filled with friendly folks! Oh yeah, we also recently bought here -a manufactured home that we have no plans of replacing with a site built home. Let the next owners address that!

[Chasam75]

I can understand their feelings. Just spend the time reading the disparaging posts here and on the on-line news source. So many comments advising folks NOT to move into the original/historic villages because the neighbors are so much older and friendships already established, yada, yada, yada. And then there are those posts whining about the driving ability or lack of same of 'old people'. Life is too short to live amongst whiners and complainers! Hope they are happy with their return - they have earned it.

In my opinion, one has to be a friend to make a friend. We live in a neighborhood consisting of 153 villas and we have a very active "Social Club." In fact we have an event coming up consisting of a catered dinner by Oakwood Smokehouse Grill and a Cornhole Tournament. We have 70 reservations for dinner and 42 signed-up for our tournament. We are all looking forward to a good meal and fun time with our neighbors. So living in The Villages is what one makes of it and love living here. - Sam E. Williams

[billethkid]

How do those with a need to segregate by age to reach a conclusion handle it in church?

[RickeyD]

I have only been here for a few years. I moved into an older neighborhood consisting of original owners, many of them frequently passing away or moving to assisted living or home to family. I had a great home in the woods up North, but love my wife enough to realize that she will thrive longer in a social environment. She is radiant and happy here, and that makes me happy in turn. I can live anywhere, as long I am with her. And she loves the Villages social life. Everyone likes my wife and she is very, very active. Me? I kind of stick to myself. I am one of the youngest in my neighborhood, at 66 years old out of a hundred unit community. I do not feel comfortable at neighborhood socials, even though I get along with all my neighbors. I just prefer to putter around the house, working on projects to improve the home. When I play a sport, I do not like the schedule of being in a league so I just wonder in and join the game, such as Pickle Ball. It's not that I don't like people, I just don't feel comfortable with close relationships with groups of people. I realize that this is not a Villages trait, but just a quirk in my personality. I do not mean to be anti-social, but it probably appears that way to my neighbors. I have always willingly assisted my neighbors when needed. I avoid neighborhood socials most of the time, because they seem to only have them when the Snow Birds are here. So, I am happy here and as long as my neighbors accept me as I am, regardless of my seemingly anti-social behavior I intend to spend my remaining years (at least 30 hopefully) quietly content in The Villages.

That said, I also complain a bit regarding traffic in The Villages. I also complain quietly about my cable being weak when all the Snow Birds are in town. I also complain about the long lines at the restaurants when the Snow Birds are here. But, I reserve that right as a "young" member of the senior community here in MY HOME in The Villages. These are things that I willingly endure for the happiness of the love of my life. After being here a year, my wife told me that I could get rid of our house up North because this IS her home.

This place is not for everyone. For some folks, they will never find that perfect place to settle down. This place is not perfect, but I do know that I will have a longer life with my love than I would probably have anywhere else that I can think of. My wife is more important than my neighbors. I have been blessed to have good neighbors though. They seem to accept me as I am and they make my wife happy and accepted.

I am a boomer that has been blessed to be able to live this life style. I am grateful for this and also glad that this place is not for everyone. Regardless of the seemingly rude or less than friendly nature of some folks, generally speaking I have found MOST Villagers to be kind, friendly and helpful.

God Bless You.



I would say extroverted people are more prevalent here than introverted. The fact you've found your happy place is proof that all who come here to live are accepted by most.

[Fastskiguy]

All I ask of the Boomers is to leave the place a little better than they found it. Then if my generation X can do the same TV will be in good shape for generation Y :)

Joe

[Mootsino]

While noshing at Panera in LSL we overhead a 70ish couple telling an acquaintance why they were moving from TV back to West Palm. Apparently it's the unfriendly neighborhood boomers that although may be personable are not neighborhood social. " they have ruined TV" he complained in not too low of a voice. The acquaintance turned to leave and gave us a somewhat understandable look. Well, I was a bit taken back but composed myself knowing it wasn't personal. But, it got me thinking ? Was his experience isolated to his neighborhood or is it widespread ? Being here only 4 times a year for a week at a time doesn't give me a true sense.

I moved here and got involved in a click, not good experience, just be social with a lot of ppl, but stay away from clicks, it doesn't work!!!!

[Fraugoofy]

I must be doing something wrong because I do not judge people by their age or color or politics or religion.

In my humble opinion, what a person says and does is the more real measure.
Now you and I could for sure be friends! I agree!!

[OhioBuckeye]

You know everybody has something they don't like about the Villages but to say baby boomers are ruining the Villages, what's the age of this Villager? What kind of person is this person, a constant complainer, didn't get something their way. I have issues too but if I can't resolve them I'll make sure I don't do what's bothering me again. The only thing that would force me to sell my home & move out of the Villages is someone connected to the Villages taking advantage on my hard earned money!

[manaboutown]

While noshing at Panera in LSL we overhead a 70ish couple telling an acquaintance why they were moving from TV back to West Palm. Apparently it's the unfriendly neighborhood boomers that although may be personable are not neighborhood social. " they have ruined TV" he complained in not too low of a voice. The acquaintance turned to leave and gave us a somewhat understandable look. Well, I was a bit taken back but composed myself knowing it wasn't personal. But, it got me thinking ? Was his experience isolated to his neighborhood or is it widespread ? Being here only 4 times a year for a week at a time doesn't give me a true sense.

If in his 70's this guy was a member of the Silent Generation. Ironic!

[obikato]

I am 64 and my husband is 68. We moved here two years ago because we love that there are so many different ages around The Villages. We bought a new home because it's the first (and last) time we will ever have a brand new home! I sure hope the "founding families" stay put. We need a great blend of people here and won't have that if they all move away. Respect is important for all ages and I hope both of us show that we feel blessed to be living here.

[Barefoot]

I'm a baby boomer. I live on the historic side (still laugh every time I say that!) and my neighbors on both sides are original owners (my father's age). I love it here. People of all ages are friendly and kind. We have lots in common and plenty to talk about when we meet at the pool, the dog park, the Rec center or the town square. Maybe it's just more friendly here, but I suspect most villages are filled with friendly folks! Oh yeah, we also recently bought here -a manufactured home that we have no plans of replacing with a site built home. Let the next owners address that!
You have a great attitude! :thumbup:

[rosemaryly]

I am one of the older boomers here. I am on my second home. I think my inactivity with the neighbors here is because I have been moving, unpacking, having house guests, keeping up with previous neighbors, etc. My solution- in another week or two I am inviting everyone on my street and behind me to my home to meet and greet. It's up to me to reach out first and not wait for someone else to be friendly to me. My destiny and enjoyment of life is my responsibility.

[looneycat]

While noshing at Panera in LSL we overhead a 70ish couple telling an acquaintance why they were moving from TV back to West Palm. Apparently it's the unfriendly neighborhood boomers that although may be personable are not neighborhood social. " they have ruined TV" he complained in not too low of a voice. The acquaintance turned to leave and gave us a somewhat understandable look. Well, I was a bit taken back but composed myself knowing it wasn't personal. But, it got me thinking ? Was his experience isolated to his neighborhood or is it widespread ? Being here only 4 times a year for a week at a time doesn't give me a true sense.

it's kind of funny since the ambiance in west palm, where i have relatives, was the reason i never wanted to move to florida.

[Jima64]

I am one of the older boomers here. I am on my second home. I think my inactivity with the neighbors here is because I have been moving, unpacking, having house guests, keeping up with previous neighbors, etc. My solution- in another week or two I am inviting everyone on my street and behind me to my home to meet and greet. It's up to me to reach out first and not wait for someone else to be friendly to me. My destiny and enjoyment of life is my responsibility.
You seem to have it figured out. Hope ypu have a good get together.

[looneycat]

While noshing at Panera in LSL we overhead a 70ish couple telling an acquaintance why they were moving from TV back to West Palm. Apparently it's the unfriendly neighborhood boomers that although may be personable are not neighborhood social. " they have ruined TV" he complained in not too low of a voice. The acquaintance turned to leave and gave us a somewhat understandable look. Well, I was a bit taken back but composed myself knowing it wasn't personal. But, it got me thinking ? Was his experience isolated to his neighborhood or is it widespread ? Being here only 4 times a year for a week at a time doesn't give me a true sense.

perhaps the problem is them.

[looneycat]

Baby boomers are anywhere from 52 to 70. That is the major Villages demograpic now. There is a difference between boomers and those older, but chalk it up to having different perspectives growing up. But we all came here for the same reason, and that is the major unifying factor.

to quote forest gump "life is like a box of chocolates". when you're young and the 'box' is full you just scarf down those goodies until one day you wake up and the box is 3/4 empty. i would rather savor the chocolates left here than any other place i've been. west palm? not so much! it all depends on your own likes, to me west palm might as well be the bronx.

[Nighmom]

I have found that you will always find what you are looking for. If you are think that the area that you live in is full of crabby people, that is what you will see. If you think that people are good and you seek to befriend them, you will find good people. It's a law of attraction kind of thing. I choose to look for the good in people and I ALWAYS find it.

[billethkid]

Life is muchbetter than reported.

Whether here on TOTV or the media....all types....they always....ALWAYS....report on the exceptions; the isolated cases; the bleed that lead stories; the nasty things people do to each other; etc; etc.

The other 98% of us have to put up with such biased focus and reporting.

Just remember there is more good going on in the world at any given moment than there is bad. And for certain do not judge others based on the isolated few.

[dillywho]

If the Boomers don't come, TV will not be able to sustain the lifestyle!!!

Boomers, younger than Boomers, older than Boomers....whatever. The only problem I have with any are the ones who come here and start wanting to change things to suit themselves or the way it was "back home". The Villages lifestyle is what attracted most, if not all, of us in the first place. Obviously, the developers have found what works. Let's just leave it that way.

As several on here have stated, The Villages is not for everyone. If not, then those who can't/won't adjust are free to go elsewhere. Non of us were forced to move here and are not forced to stay here.

Our force for staying is that we love it here. Do we like everything? No, but respect the fact that others do like what we don't. That's what makes it so great.

We may be older than Boomers, but that just means we were born before them. I know of no one who had any say about that part of life! Age is just a number and uncontrollable. Attitude is not and is controllable or at the very least, adjustable.

[RickeyD]

Boomers, younger than Boomers, older than Boomers....whatever. The only problem I have with any are the ones who come here and start wanting to change things to suit themselves or the way it was "back home". The Villages lifestyle is what attracted most, if not all, of us in the first place. Obviously, the developers have found what works. Let's just leave it that way.



As several on here have stated, The Villages is not for everyone. If not, then those who can't/won't adjust are free to go elsewhere. Non of us were forced to move here and are not forced to stay here.



Our force for staying is that we love it here. Do we like everything? No, but respect the fact that others do like what we don't. That's what makes it so great.



We may be older than Boomers, but that just means we were born before them. I know of no one who had any say about that part of life! Age is just a number and uncontrollable. Attitude is not and is controllable or at the very least, adjustable.



How can anyone change the way things are and why would they ? If you mean by changing things through their actions or demeanor there is nothing you or I can do about that. People seek their own level of satisfaction in their own way with or without our input. I'm not sure I fully understand what you are saying.

[graciegirl]

Boomers, younger than Boomers, older than Boomers....whatever. The only problem I have with any are the ones who come here and start wanting to change things to suit themselves or the way it was "back home". The Villages lifestyle is what attracted most, if not all, of us in the first place. Obviously, the developers have found what works. Let's just leave it that way.

As several on here have stated, The Villages is not for everyone. If not, then those who can't/won't adjust are free to go elsewhere. Non of us were forced to move here and are not forced to stay here.

Our force for staying is that we love it here. Do we like everything? No, but respect the fact that others do like what we don't. That's what makes it so great.

We may be older than Boomers, but that just means we were born before them. I know of no one who had any say about that part of life! Age is just a number and uncontrollable. Attitude is not and is controllable or at the very least, adjustable.





Excellent attitude and assessment.

[billethkid]

Boomers, younger than Boomers, older than Boomers....whatever. The only problem I have with any are the ones who come here and start wanting to change things to suit themselves or the way it was "back home". The Villages lifestyle is what attracted most, if not all, of us in the first place. Obviously, the developers have found what works. Let's just leave it that way.

As several on here have stated, The Villages is not for everyone. If not, then those who can't/won't adjust are free to go elsewhere. Non of us were forced to move here and are not forced to stay here.

Our force for staying is that we love it here. Do we like everything? No, but respect the fact that others do like what we don't. That's what makes it so great.

We may be older than Boomers, but that just means we were born before them. I know of no one who had any say about that part of life! Age is just a number and uncontrollable. Attitude is not and is controllable or at the very least, adjustable.

Nicely stated.
Attitude; The lubricant that makes it all work!!

[Nucky]

Isn't it really about desire? Some people will never fit in anywhere....and then you have the person with the lampshade on their head. Life is for living. Life is not for moving. I hope God willing The Villages is our "Final Earthly Destination". I feel sorry for the people RickeyD was speaking about. A sad outlook. Attitude is absolutely the name of the game.

[Barefoot]

Life is much better than reported.
Whether here on TOTV or the media....all types....they always....ALWAYS....report on the exceptions; the isolated cases; the bleed that lead stories; the nasty things people do to each other; etc; etc. The other 98% of us have to put up with such biased focus and reporting.
Just remember there is more good going on in the world at any given moment than there is bad. And for certain do not judge others based on the isolated few.

Excellent post, I agree 100%. Way more good than bad going on in the world.
Boomers and 90 year olds live happily in The Villages side by side.
I think the remarks in the opening post were definitely not the norm.

[Miles42]

This really has become a large a diverse city. I no longer consider it a Village of any sort. The traffic at times resembles a major rush hour.

[graciegirl]

This really has become a large a diverse city. I no longer consider it a Village of any sort. The traffic at times resembles a major rush hour.



But we are still individuals, living in neighborhoods that are in Villages. We are still alive and enjoy the interaction with other grown ups who are no longer working (For the most part, it IS a retirement community) We are mostly people who take pride in our homes and yards, love our family and our pets and enjoy being outside so much during the year. We are old-er than we used to be and mostly wiser. We all still like to be treated with kindness and enjoy being celebrated.

[RickeyD]

This really has become a large a diverse city. I no longer consider it a Village of any sort. The traffic at times resembles a major rush hour.



It is only an island if seen from the air. I find quaintness in my neighborhood.

[Chatbrat]

Tamarind Grove is a village. The Villages a city.

[dewilson58]

But we are still individuals, living in neighborhoods that are in Villages. We are still alive and enjoy the interaction with other grown ups who are no longer working (For the most part, it IS a retirement community) We are mostly people who take pride in our homes and yards, love our family and our pets and enjoy being outside so much during the year. We are old-er than we used to be and mostly wiser. We all still like to be treated with kindness and enjoy being celebrated.

I'm impressed how there are block parties, neighborhood parties and village parties. Maybe I should say get-togethers more so than parties, but whatever they are called, I love the people who pull them together. The Villages is as big or as little as I want............depending on the day.

Like life, make TV what you want it to be and ENJOY.

[Polar Bear]

Tamarind Grove is a village. The Villages a city.
???

[mickey100]

I imagine it has a lot to do with whether or not you have things in common with your neighbors. We have friends that range in age from 50's up to almost 90, but we have common interests that bond us. My spouse and I are very active, and if we had neighbors who sat around watching TV all day, for example, we would probably be less likely to be friends with them than with neighbors who participated in many activities.

[billethkid]

The Villages is just that; a collection of individual Villages.

Let us hope we are not around if and when somebody wants to make it a city!!!!

[Barefoot]

Tamarind Grove is a village. The Villages a city. The Developers have managed to create a large city, yet each individual Village is unique,
with a sense of community and a sense of pride.
And almost without exception, residents feel that their Village is the best Village!

[rubicon]

In bigger cities they call them neighborhoods

[manaboutown]

Some would consider them subdivisions.

[SCasey]

In our neighborhood, we have people ranging from their 90's to their 50's and we mix and mingle over golf, cards, and other activities without any concern about ages. It's just a number.

That's the way it is in my neighborhood. People having fun with each other and helping each other out.

[joldnol]

I love our village. The ages range from the 50's to 80's. As a boomer my major problem is the dude at the pool who seems stuck in 1960. Good lord there is only so much Connie Francis, Bobby Daren and Paul Anka one can take. That said if that's my worst problem I'm truly blessed (my rants about snowbirds comes from long before being a TVer. I grew up in Key West during the 60's and early 70's). After being stuck on 295 for over an hour in Jax this weekend you won't hear me complain about TV traffic again. I love TV.

[Barefoot]

Some would consider them subdivisions. No, IMHO a subdivision is where people live who drive to work somewhere else.
In The Villages, each neighborhood is unique and self contained with a sense of community. With an adult pool and a family pool and a rec center and daily activities, golf, pickleball, shuffleboard, a mail station, and, and, and ...
As BTK said, "The Villages is simply a collection of villages", definitely not subdivisions.

[dillywho]

How can anyone change the way things are and why would they ? If you mean by changing things through their actions or demeanor there is nothing you or I can do about that. People seek their own level of satisfaction in their own way with or without our input. I'm not sure I fully understand what you are saying.

Maybe, as Ricky Ricardo used to say, I can 'splain myself. Too many (of all ages) want to change rules on everything from use of the amenities by outsiders to lawn ornaments to signage and so on. We were accustomed to a big, fenced in, backyard in Amarillo. There are none here and we knew that but simply accepted the fact that they are not allowed here. The use of trash cans or bins are not allowed or curbside mailboxes or mail delivered to the house instead of a central box station.

We didn't set up a howl to get any of it changed. Had it not be acceptable to us, we would have simply stayed put or found someplace else. We know kids under 19 are not allowed more than 30 days a year. No problem with that, either.

And the beat goes on. Hope this helps understand what I was trying to say. Things are the way they are for very valid reasons. I worked on a committee here one year (AAC) and you cannot imagine all the things people were wanting to change to be like 'where they came from' or to have something that is not allowed (use of the amenities by outsiders comes to mind). Very careful thought goes into the planning and operation of this place, and it has worked for years. I suspect that that will be the case for a very long time. Has worked well for us since 2004.

[manaboutown]

No, IMHO a subdivision is where people live who drive to work somewhere else.
In The Villages, each neighborhood is unique and self contained with a sense of community. With an adult pool and a family pool and a rec center and daily activities, golf, pickleball, shuffleboard, a mail station, and, and, and ...
As BTK said, "The Villages is simply a collection of villages", definitely not subdivisions.

From Wikipedia:

"Subdivision is the act of dividing land into pieces that are easier to sell or otherwise develop, usually via a plat. The former single piece as a whole is then known in the United States as a subdivision. If it is used for housing it is typically known as a housing subdivision or housing development, although some developers tend to call these areas communities."

Please note the last clause in the last sentence. No commuting required. I have lived in subdivisions having a sense of community as well as pools, tennis courts and the like

[Barefoot]

From Wikipedia:
"Subdivision is the act of dividing land into pieces that are easier to sell or otherwise develop, usually via a plat. The former single piece as a whole is then known in the United States as a subdivision. If it is used for housing it is typically known as a housing subdivision or housing development, although some developers tend to call these areas communities."
Please note the last clause in the last sentence. No commuting required. I have lived in subdivisions having a sense of community as well as pools, tennis courts and the like

OK, I stand corrected. :024: The Villages is full of subdivisions.

[Polar Bear]

OK, I stand corrected. :024: The Villages is full of subdivisions.

Only technically. :)

[Nucky]

I thought the whole place was a state of mind?

[manaboutown]

OK, I stand corrected. :024: The Villages is full of subdivisions.


But without question the nicest set of subdivisions for active adults ever developed!

[DonH57]

I thought the whole place was a state of mind?

It can be whatever state of mind each person puts themselves into. And it's 420 !!!!!:pepper2:

[pebrown71]

We are new to TV and are mid boomers. I guess not being social depends on what you want at TV. I am happy reading and being quiet and I don't like busy noisy events. That doesn't mean there is some cuthing wrong with me or tht I shouldn't be allowed to be part of a community. I also don't want my social life dictated.

[Fredster]

We are new to TV and are mid boomers. I guess not being social depends on what you want at TV. I am happy reading and being quiet and I don't like busy noisy events. That doesn't mean there is some something wrong with me or that I shouldn't be allowed to be part of a community. I also don't want my social life dictated.

:agree:"Everyone marches to the beat of a different drummer"
But I think some people have trouble accepting that!

[Fortunate1]

If you've got a positive outlook when you meet your new neighbors , I don't see
how you will have a problem with them . A smile doesn't hurt either . I think we all look forward to meeting new friends and sharing life stories .

[BobnBev]

We are new to TV and are mid boomers. I guess not being social depends on what you want at TV. I am happy reading and being quiet and I don't like busy noisy events. That doesn't mean there is some cuthing wrong with me or tht I shouldn't be allowed to be part of a community. I also don't want my social life dictated.

We think and act the same way.:icon_bored:

[Barefoot]

We are new to TV and are mid boomers. I guess not being social depends on what you want at TV. I am happy reading and being quiet and I don't like busy noisy events. That doesn't mean there is something wrong with me or tht I shouldn't be allowed to be part of a community. I also don't want my social life dictated.
:thumbup: Many of us feel the same way. Nothing wrong with not liking noisy events. Sometimes it's really nice to be quiet and peaceful.

[manaboutown]

Baby Boomers comprise the vast majority of the developer's current market. In twenty years that will change to whatever age group is turning 55 to 65 years of age.

[Polar Bear]

...Sometimes it's really nice to be quiet and peaceful.

Definitely. Even necessary. :)

[2BNTV]

We are new to TV and are mid boomers. I guess not being social depends on what you want at TV. I am happy reading and being quiet and I don't like busy noisy events. That doesn't mean there is some cuthing wrong with me or tht I shouldn't be allowed to be part of a community. I also don't want my social life dictated.

The beauty of living in TV is that you choose to do as much, or as little as you want!!!

It's always your choice.