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06-04-2016, 08:11 AM
Received this today....

This is 100% true and last used in 1979 . I had forgotten about this. Donald Trumps stance on Muslims is not wrong or without Merit. ...jim

Let’s dust this one off and enforce it!

A very interesting bit of Legislative History: The McCarran-Walter Act of 1952

Donald Trump was recently severely criticized for suggesting that the U.S. should limit or temporarily suspend the immigration of certain ethnic groups, nationalities, and even people of certain religions (Muslims). The criticisms condemned such a suggestion as, among other things, being “Un-American,” dumb, stupid, reckless, dangerous and racist. Congressmen and Senators swore that they would never allow such legislation, and Obama called such a prohibition on immigration unconstitutional (as if, all of a sudden, he gives a damn about the Constitution).

As Gomer Pyle would say, “Surprise, Surprise!!!” It seems that the selective immigration ban is already law and has been applied on several occasions. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, aka, the McCarran-Walter Act allows for the "Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by the president. Whenever the president finds that the entry of aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, the president may, by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

Note that McCarran was a Democrat and that this act was utilized by Jimmy Carter, no less, in 1979 to keep Iranians out of the United States—but he actually did more! He made all Iranian students already here check in, and then deported a bunch. Seven thousand were found in violation of their visas, and 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the United States in 1979. But, you won't hear a word about this from the liberal media propaganda machine.

It is of note too that the act requires that an applicant for immigration ”must be of good moral character” and "attached to the principles of the Constitution.” SINCE THE QURAN FORBIDS MUSLIMS TO SWEAR ALLEGIANCE TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, TECHNICALLY, ALL MUSLIMS SHOULD BE REFUSED IMMIGRATION.

Authenticated at:

U.S. Immigration Legislation: 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act (McCarran-Walter Act) (http://library.uwb.edu/static/USimmigration/1952_immigration_and_nationality_act.html)

Guest
06-04-2016, 08:28 AM
Received this today....

This is 100% true and last used in 1979 . I had forgotten about this. Donald Trumps stance on Muslims is not wrong or without Merit. ...jim

Let’s dust this one off and enforce it!

A very interesting bit of Legislative History: The McCarran-Walter Act of 1952

Donald Trump was recently severely criticized for suggesting that the U.S. should limit or temporarily suspend the immigration of certain ethnic groups, nationalities, and even people of certain religions (Muslims). The criticisms condemned such a suggestion as, among other things, being “Un-American,” dumb, stupid, reckless, dangerous and racist. Congressmen and Senators swore that they would never allow such legislation, and Obama called such a prohibition on immigration unconstitutional (as if, all of a sudden, he gives a damn about the Constitution).

As Gomer Pyle would say, “Surprise, Surprise!!!” It seems that the selective immigration ban is already law and has been applied on several occasions. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, aka, the McCarran-Walter Act allows for the "Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by the president. Whenever the president finds that the entry of aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, the president may, by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

Note that McCarran was a Democrat and that this act was utilized by Jimmy Carter, no less, in 1979 to keep Iranians out of the United States—but he actually did more! He made all Iranian students already here check in, and then deported a bunch. Seven thousand were found in violation of their visas, and 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the United States in 1979. But, you won't hear a word about this from the liberal media propaganda machine.

It is of note too that the act requires that an applicant for immigration ”must be of good moral character” and "attached to the principles of the Constitution.” SINCE THE QURAN FORBIDS MUSLIMS TO SWEAR ALLEGIANCE TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, TECHNICALLY, ALL MUSLIMS SHOULD BE REFUSED IMMIGRATION.

Authenticated at:

U.S. Immigration Legislation: 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act (McCarran-Walter Act) (http://library.uwb.edu/static/USimmigration/1952_immigration_and_nationality_act.html)

I'll second that. We don't need them. They treat women like dirt and kill gays. And liberals endorse that. Go figure.

Guest
06-04-2016, 10:11 AM
I'll second that. We don't need them. They treat women like dirt and kill gays. And liberals endorse that. Go figure.

Whatever action or policy that seems completely illogical or misplaced by those citizens who are well educated and grounded will be deeply embraced by the Left .

Sadly they are winning the battle because for so many millions of them doing so is their primary Job / Role in the World . :duck:

Guest
06-04-2016, 12:34 PM
Whatever action or policy that seems completely illogical or misplaced by those citizens who are well educated and grounded will be deeply embraced by the Left .

Sadly they are winning the battle because for so many millions of them doing so is their primary Job / Role in the World . :duck:

They THINK they are left, but in reality they are just anarchists. They are so miserable that they want to destroy everything else and everyone else so that they can be miserable with them.

Guest
06-04-2016, 01:13 PM
Typical Trump uninformed mistruths.

Muslims Banned from the U.S. in 1952? : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/islam-banned-u-s-1952/)

It is just another of his hate talk, however well covered and promulgated by the Communist party

The Communist Manifesto: .Islam, by law, is prohibited from US immigration - 1952 McCarran Walters ACT (http://comunistmanifesto101.blogspot.com/2015/11/islam-by-law-is-prohibited-from-us.html)

Trump is the second coming of a lot of historical figures (none positive). He simply lies, labels, and promulgates hate.

This election is a nightmare. I totally oppose the liberal platform, Hillary Clinton specifically, but Trump is a total nightmare.

How any person who even reads just a little or is paying attention can support a con man, and this includes his party (was mine until this debacle) is well beyond me.

He just never tells the truth

Guest
06-04-2016, 01:17 PM
We need to use this NOW!!! Already minorities, mostly hispanics, are the majority below age 6!!! Get them out NOW or lose your country!!! This time is NOT different...EVERY time a minority population reaches a certain level the old culture is replaced. Is that what you want? Then get active in getting them out. 1 in 4 people living here in America are either foreign born or the child of a foreign born. We've been silently invaded!!!

Guest
06-04-2016, 01:29 PM
We need to use this NOW!!! Already minorities, mostly hispanics, are the majority below age 6!!! Get them out NOW or lose your country!!! This time is NOT different...EVERY time a minority population reaches a certain level the old culture is replaced. Is that what you want? Then get active in getting them out. 1 in 4 people living here in America are either foreign born or the child of a foreign born. We've been silently invaded!!!

First, you don't read well at all.

Second, if you are German, Italian, or any other ethnic background, your ancestors were the same. And guess what..they brought the mafia and various other things fron their homeland. ALL of us come from this kind of situation and would be outraged should people even suggest they came from such ancestry but you did.

Irish mob, mafia, are two examples of what we had. We used to pride ourselves on being a melting pot.

Today, we want to hitch our wagon to a person, Trump, who is consumed by hatred. So consumed is he and you followers, you lose even your respect for truth. Trump lies, and you accept it. That makes you his pasty.

This is not an endorsement of Clinton by far. As a life long Republican, I assure you that her lies and smug attitude is terrible.

I won't be voting this cycle because of this, but it sickens me to hear people actually cheapen my country by promulgating Trumps lies. He is a dispicable person by ANY standard.

Guest
06-04-2016, 02:04 PM
First, you don't read well at all.

Second, if you are German, Italian, or any other ethnic background, your ancestors were the same. And guess what..they brought the mafia and various other things fron their homeland. ALL of us come from this kind of situation and would be outraged should people even suggest they came from such ancestry but you did.

Irish mob, mafia, are two examples of what we had. We used to pride ourselves on being a melting pot.

Today, we want to hitch our wagon to a person, Trump, who is consumed by hatred. So consumed is he and you followers, you lose even your respect for truth. Trump lies, and you accept it. That makes you his pasty.

This is not an endorsement of Clinton by far. As a life long Republican, I assure you that her lies and smug attitude is terrible.

I won't be voting this cycle because of this, but it sickens me to hear people actually cheapen my country by promulgating Trumps lies. He is a dispicable person by ANY standard.

I read and comprehend perfectly well...it allows the banning and expulsion of groups deemed "detrimental". You don't think the hispanic invasion has and will be detrimental?

Are there MORE Irish than anyone else? Was there ever? More Italians than anyone else?

You're missing the point...hispanics...mexicans mostly, are becoming the MAJORITY. It won't be English saying press one for spanish...it'll be "pulse uno para Inglés".

Do you like Mexico? Enough to replace America with it?

In 20 years you literally won't recognize America. It won't look like Norman Rockwells America. It'll look like Juarez or Tijuana. Is that what you want?

USE this act, now. 1/4 of the population is foreign born hispanic or their anchor baby. It's having a negative effect on this country.

Guest
06-04-2016, 02:22 PM
Received this today....
A very interesting bit of Legislative History: The McCarran-Walter Act of 1952
U.S. Immigration Legislation: 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act (McCarran-Walter Act) (http://library.uwb.edu/static/USimmigration/1952_immigration_and_nationality_act.html)
I don't think the McCarren-Walker Act is new information for Trump. The act preceded McCarthyism but it's intention was the same. Would you agree?

The McCarran-Walter Act moved away from excluding immigrants based simply upon country of origin. Instead it focused upon denying immigrants who were unlawful, immoral, diseased in any way, politically radical etc. and accepting those who were willing and able to assimilate into the US economic, social, and political structures, which restructured how immigration law was handled. Furthermore, the most notable exclusions were anyone even remotely associated with communism which in the early days of the Cold War was seen as a serious threat to US democracy. [I]The main objective of this was to block any spread of communism from outside post WWII countries,...

Who defended McCarthy? Cohn
And what does Cohn have to do with Trump?

‘He Brutalized For You’ - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-roy-cohn-mentor-joseph-mccarthy-213799)

Some use to be afraid of Communists. Some are now afraid of Muslims and Mexicans. Fear is a great motivator that deceptive politicians use to their advantage.

In another thread some unknown said there will be violence if Trump is elected. See how many likes and retweets there are? He speaks for himself not millions. Don't let others fool you.

Guest
06-04-2016, 02:38 PM
Some use to be afraid of Communists. Some are now afraid of Muslims and Mexicans. Fear is a great motivator that deceptive politicians use to their advantage.

In another thread some unknown said there will be violence if Trump is elected. See how many likes and retweets there are? He speaks for himself not millions. Don't let others fool you.

1 in 4, 25% of the US population is either foreign born (Mexican) or their anchor baby. Mexicans (minorities) are the MAJORITY of children under age 6. EVERY other country that has gained a minority majority, has lost it's culture and way of life. This IS something to fear. The politicians are ignoring it.

My question is why? Why would those in power, in control want a minority majority? They MUST know what it inevitably leads to...3rd world...a 3rd world US. Why? Why do this?

Guest
06-04-2016, 03:08 PM
1 in 4, 25% of the US population is either foreign born (Mexican) or their anchor baby. Mexicans (minorities) are the MAJORITY of children under age 6. EVERY other country that has gained a minority majority, has lost it's culture and way of life. This IS something to fear. The politicians are ignoring it.

My question is why? Why would those in power, in control want a minority majority? They MUST know what it inevitably leads to...3rd world...a 3rd world US. Why? Why do this?I can only speak for myself. The people that you fear are not all bad. I don't know how to help you understand. I will think about how I can help you understand and get back to you. My children see things very differently from you so I guess I had something to do with it.

Guest
06-04-2016, 03:11 PM
1 in 4, 25% of the US population is either foreign born (Mexican) or their anchor baby. Mexicans (minorities) are the MAJORITY of children under age 6. EVERY other country that has gained a minority majority, has lost it's culture and way of life. This IS something to fear. The politicians are ignoring it.

My question is why? Why would those in power, in control want a minority majority? They MUST know what it inevitably leads to...3rd world...a 3rd world US. Why? Why do this?


This is what happened when birth control came along in the 1960's and white women stopped staying home and having 15-18 kids each. It is easier to increase the white population than to decrease the black/brown population.

It's probably too late for wifey, but tell the daughters and granddaughters they must, for the sake of this country, give up all ideas of a career and stay home and raise 15-18 kids a piece just like in the old days and what they were intended to do.

Guest
06-04-2016, 03:36 PM
I read and comprehend perfectly well...it allows the banning and expulsion of groups deemed "detrimental". You don't think the hispanic invasion has and will be detrimental?

Are there MORE Irish than anyone else? Was there ever? More Italians than anyone else?

You're missing the point...hispanics...mexicans mostly, are becoming the MAJORITY. It won't be English saying press one for spanish...it'll be "pulse uno para Inglés".

Do you like Mexico? Enough to replace America with it?

In 20 years you literally won't recognize America. It won't look like Norman Rockwells America. It'll look like Juarez or Tijuana. Is that what you want?

USE this act, now. 1/4 of the population is foreign born hispanic or their anchor baby. It's having a negative effect on this country.

I don't know when your parents or grand parents came to this country, seeking a better life, fleeing a criminal society and freedom to get educated a earn a living.

During the 1920s. It was felt all those..maybe your family..were a threat to the USA. The National Origins act was meant to slow down and restrict the Italians, Poles and Russians from coming here. Wonder how your life would have been had your family been denied entrance ?

I KNOW and am WELL AWARE of immigration problems. We have for years, played politics with this issue on BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. Now you seem to suggest that the USA totally abandon our heritage, stop working toward any immigration reform, lock the door and cease any conversation.

We have now a candidate in MY party (which embarrasses me) who does not discuss immigration reform beyond closing the door ((perhaps he is unable to discuss it), and actually proposes arming other countries with nukes to save money, and do away with any responsibility for anyone except those he finds acceptable.

This is a man who screwed anything that walked while married (and publicly bragged about it), averted any service to his country, has lied all his life especially to his family. This is a man who publicly assails a federal judge as unable to do his job because HIS PARENTS are from Mexico. Since Trump is German/Scottish this may enter into future proceedings.

This is a man, who by the admission of those who supposedly represented him to fleece elders and others during severe economic times openly and very blatantly. This is a man who labels anyone who disagrees with him with a name, usually having something to do with ethnicity of that person.

So much more about his almost daily lies, but point is, you will shut the door on people and adulate a man who reeks of deceit and deception. On what basis can you do that ?

Guest
06-04-2016, 03:50 PM
The hypocrisy on here scares me.

Donald Trump has broken more laws than anyone trying to cross our borders. Donald Trump, in the last two weeks, has said more negative things about our countries systems and people than anyone even thinking of crossing our borders.

BUT he is rich, as he always reminds us.

He speaks just the opposite of our founders. He will change his mind if he finds something does not serve HIM.

He promis s you ANYTHING YOU WANT TO HEAR, and turns a deaf ear when experts tell him it is not possible, unconstitutional, or crazy. He will repeat the same lie over and over NEVER discussing valid points made to him.

He is more interested in"counter punching" than engaging in adult conversation about our problems.

In short, those wanting to cross the border bring a much higher moral standard to the country than Trump offers us.

BUT he is rich and I watched his TV show.

Guest
06-04-2016, 03:51 PM
This is what happened when birth control came along in the 1960's and white women stopped staying home and having 15-18 kids each. It is easier to increase the white population than to decrease the black/brown population.

It's probably too late for wifey, but tell the daughters and granddaughters they must, for the sake of this country, give up all ideas of a career and stay home and raise 15-18 kids a piece just like in the old days and what they were intended to do.First and foremost listen to this person. Ask wifey if it's too late for you to have another 14 to 16 children. Let me know how you make out.

Guest
06-05-2016, 05:48 AM
I can only speak for myself. The people that you fear are not all bad. I don't know how to help you understand. I will think about how I can help you understand and get back to you. My children see things very differently from you so I guess I had something to do with it.

They're taking over and changing everything...how is that not bad? They don't want to be "Americans" they want to be Mexicans living here until they can turn it into Mexico. They DO think that the US was illegally "taken" from them and they've wanted it back for a long time.

You're children are indoctrinated fools, victims of an "education system" that teaches "diversity" is great, when in fact it destroys...everything it touches.

This is what happened when birth control came along in the 1960's and white women stopped staying home and having 15-18 kids each. It is easier to increase the white population than to decrease the black/brown population.

It's probably too late for wifey, but tell the daughters and granddaughters they must, for the sake of this country, give up all ideas of a career and stay home and raise 15-18 kids a piece just like in the old days and what they were intended to do.

Yes, I've said it for years, our demise began in the 60s with birth control and abortion. The wrong women where using it/getting abortions. Our population went down...theirs went up. Well now it's happened, there are MORE of them than us from age 6 down. There's a new baby boom coming and it won't be pretty.

I've also been saying for years that mothers need to stay home and raise their own kids and not pawn it off to some 3rd world, min wage, English as a second language, uneducated, unmoral, loser to raise your kids. No wander they think "differently" about things.

The hypocrisy on here scares me.

Donald Trump has broken more laws than anyone trying to cross our borders. Donald Trump, in the last two weeks, has said more negative things about our countries systems and people than anyone even thinking of crossing our borders.

BUT he is rich, as he always reminds us.

He speaks just the opposite of our founders. He will change his mind if he finds something does not serve HIM.

He promis s you ANYTHING YOU WANT TO HEAR, and turns a deaf ear when experts tell him it is not possible, unconstitutional, or crazy. He will repeat the same lie over and over NEVER discussing valid points made to him.

He is more interested in"counter punching" than engaging in adult conversation about our problems.

In short, those wanting to cross the border bring a much higher moral standard to the country than Trump offers us.

BUT he is rich and I watched his TV show.

Of course...he wants them out, like all smart Americans do. The "systems" ARE broken, badly broken.

The founders didn't want the country populated mostly by "slaves", they are not what the founders had in mind when they talked of immigration. They wanted capable people, not idiots. And besides, we're full now, no more room for more immigrants, especially "those kids". We have enough "losers", enough who need government help. We don't need any more "poor people".

People "sneaking into our country", like sneaking into anywhere shows LOW moral standard. Do you "sneak into places"?

First and foremost listen to this person. Ask wifey if it's too late for you to have another 14 to 16 children. Let me know how you make out.

We killed our country by way of greed. You should have listened in the 70s when we FIRST knew that all this "equality" talk was a bunch of garbage.

Guest
06-05-2016, 06:05 AM
I'll second that. We don't need them. They treat women like dirt and kill gays. And liberals endorse that. Go figure.

It's funny how you paint everyone with the same brush, maybe then all repubs are bigots because of a few, namely trump.

Guest
06-05-2016, 06:48 AM
The hypocrisy on here scares me.

Donald Trump has broken more laws than anyone trying to cross our borders. Donald Trump, in the last two weeks, has said more negative things about our countries systems and people than anyone even thinking of crossing our borders.

BUT he is rich, as he always reminds us.

He speaks just the opposite of our founders. He will change his mind if he finds something does not serve HIM.

He promis s you ANYTHING YOU WANT TO HEAR, and turns a deaf ear when experts tell him it is not possible, unconstitutional, or crazy. He will repeat the same lie over and over NEVER discussing valid points made to him.

He is more interested in"counter punching" than engaging in adult conversation about our problems.

In short, those wanting to cross the border bring a much higher moral standard to the country than Trump offers us.

BUT he is rich and I watched his TV show.

Hypocrisy is when you have the audacity to throw stones at Trump by accusing him of committing crimes, when you support a felon like Hillary Clinton. How can you justify her behavior? How can you say that it is OK to jeopardize national security by purposely mishandling classified material? How can you accuse others when the Clintons have a fake charity that only donates less than 10% to actual charity and the rest is used to "operate" such as plane rides for the Clinton family, meals, hotels, etc. How can you justify her illegal activities with foreign governments that is a conflict of interest for the position she held? And we won't even mention the lies she told America and falsely imprisoned an innocent man because he made a video that was Anti-Muslim. A violation of his free speech and an accusation that four Americans were killed because of his video. These are just some of the areas of corruption that the Clintons are responsible for. There are many others and I could give you a list. It is NOT a Republican conspiracy or plot. This is her outright criminal nature and disregard for fellow Americans. And you call Trump a hypocrite? That would be funny if not so pathetic and naive. To think that there are those in America so stupid as to believe like that.

Lady, you take the cake.

Guest
06-05-2016, 07:27 AM
Hypocrisy is when you have the audacity to throw stones at Trump by accusing him of committing crimes, when you support a felon like Hillary Clinton. How can you justify her behavior? How can you say that it is OK to jeopardize national security by purposely mishandling classified material? How can you accuse others when the Clintons have a fake charity that only donates less than 10% to actual charity and the rest is used to "operate" such as plane rides for the Clinton family, meals, hotels, etc. How can you justify her illegal activities with foreign governments that is a conflict of interest for the position she held? And we won't even mention the lies she told America and falsely imprisoned an innocent man because he made a video that was Anti-Muslim. A violation of his free speech and an accusation that four Americans were killed because of his video. These are just some of the areas of corruption that the Clintons are responsible for. There are many others and I could give you a list. It is NOT a Republican conspiracy or plot. This is her outright criminal nature and disregard for fellow Americans. And you call Trump a hypocrite? That would be funny if not so pathetic and naive. To think that there are those in America so stupid as to believe like that.

Lady, you take the cake.

You are very naive.

Your assumption, because you assume what you want, that anyone who is anti Trump is pro Clinton is so terribly mis guided.

I will not vote this cycle (first miss since I came of age in 1960) because I find BOTH candidates to be extremely flawed human beings.

I cannot vote or support Clinton for a ton of reasons, many you spelled out. I am a lifelong Republican...

My problem is seeing people being totally conned by Trump. Listen we all know what Clinton brings. It simply pains me to see what my party has dredged up, and how people can support him WHILE they know he lies to their face.

No, I will NEVER vote for Clinton, but to remain silent while a person with NO character tears down another American citizen because of where his parents were born simply makes me sick.

Guest
06-05-2016, 07:31 AM
Hypocrisy is when you have the audacity to throw stones at Trump by accusing him of committing crimes, when you support a felon like Hillary Clinton. How can you justify her behavior? How can you say that it is OK to jeopardize national security by purposely mishandling classified material? How can you accuse others when the Clintons have a fake charity that only donates less than 10% to actual charity and the rest is used to "operate" such as plane rides for the Clinton family, meals, hotels, etc. How can you justify her illegal activities with foreign governments that is a conflict of interest for the position she held? And we won't even mention the lies she told America and falsely imprisoned an innocent man because he made a video that was Anti-Muslim. A violation of his free speech and an accusation that four Americans were killed because of his video. These are just some of the areas of corruption that the Clintons are responsible for. There are many others and I could give you a list. It is NOT a Republican conspiracy or plot. This is her outright criminal nature and disregard for fellow Americans. And you call Trump a hypocrite? That would be funny if not so pathetic and naive. To think that there are those in America so stupid as to believe like that.

Lady, you take the cake.

BOTH sides...BOTH parties do the same crap.

If Trump gets elected, he'll spend a ton of money too. The deficit will double, the debt will go to $40 trillion

No matter whom gets in, the party with your money will go on. That's ALL it's about...money and power.

Stop voting for EITHER!

Guest
06-05-2016, 07:54 AM
You are very naive.

Your assumption, because you assume what you want, that anyone who is anti Trump is pro Clinton is so terribly mis guided.

I will not vote this cycle (first miss since I came of age in 1960) because I find BOTH candidates to be extremely flawed human beings.

I cannot vote or support Clinton for a ton of reasons, many you spelled out. I am a lifelong Republican...

My problem is seeing people being totally conned by Trump. Listen we all know what Clinton brings. It simply pains me to see what my party has dredged up, and how people can support him WHILE they know he lies to their face.

No, I will NEVER vote for Clinton, but to remain silent while a person with NO character tears down another American citizen because of where his parents were born simply makes me sick.

You do realize that there will be 3-4 Supreme Court positions up for grabs in the next two terms, right? And if folks like you fail to see the importance of that and decide not to vote for Trump because you don't "like" him, then you may just end up with a country much worst than you could ever imagine, if a liberal keeps the White House.

Guest
06-05-2016, 07:57 AM
BOTH sides...BOTH parties do the same crap.

If Trump gets elected, he'll spend a ton of money too. The deficit will double, the debt will go to $40 trillion

No matter whom gets in, the party with your money will go on. That's ALL it's about...money and power.

Stop voting for EITHER!

Go away. If you hate so many people, I don't see why you would want to live down here in TV land. Go find a cabin in the Black Hills or some where else that isolates you from people. We are talking politics, not your fear of the black man.

Guest
06-05-2016, 08:11 AM
You do realize that there will be 3-4 Supreme Court positions up for grabs in the next two terms, right? And if folks like you fail to see the importance of that and decide not to vote for Trump because you don't "like" him, then you may just end up with a country much worst than you could ever imagine, if a liberal keeps the White House.

We've got bigger problems than the SCOTUS. MUCH bigger.

BOTH sides...BOTH parties do the same crap.

If Trump gets elected, he'll spend a ton of money too. The deficit will double, the debt will go to $40 trillion

No matter whom gets in, the party with your money will go on. That's ALL it's about...money and power.

Stop voting for EITHER!

Go away. If you hate so many people, I don't see why you would want to live down here in TV land. Go find a cabin in the Black Hills or some where else that isolates you from people. We are talking politics, not your fear of the black man.

Huh? Who are you replying to? My post is above yours, I talked about spending money.

If I was talking about race...why are you here in TV land if you have a love of the black man?

I "fear" what they do, what happens when there are too many of them. If there was just ONE successful, happy, peaceful, black/hispanic majority place...just one in the whole world...I wouldn't "fear" them. Diversity has destroyed every place it has happened. So yes, I guess I do "fear" the black man. Thanks for making me realize it. Got an extra sheet? It seems they were right all along?

Guest
06-05-2016, 08:25 AM
You do realize that there will be 3-4 Supreme Court positions up for grabs in the next two terms, right? And if folks like you fail to see the importance of that and decide not to vote for Trump because you don't "like" him, then you may just end up with a country much worst than you could ever imagine, if a liberal keeps the White House.

I understand your view, however...

1. First you assume he speaks the truth about those potential openings. His track record on lying is very public, validated and obviously you ignore.

2. Trump has raised so many other issues...nuclear arms, sendin 20000 troops tight ISIS, and a host of other issues, that the Supreme Court lessens. While I DO understand, that issue sort of pales with his attacks on our constitution, form of government and civil discourse.

It is a quandary. Two vile human beings and we are to choose one.

Guest
06-05-2016, 11:06 AM
I understand your view, however...

1. First you assume he speaks the truth about those potential openings. His track record on lying is very public, validated and obviously you ignore.

2. Trump has raised so many other issues...nuclear arms, sendin 20000 troops tight ISIS, and a host of other issues, that the Supreme Court lessens. While I DO understand, that issue sort of pales with his attacks on our constitution, form of government and civil discourse.

It is a quandary. Two vile human beings and we are to choose one.

There ARE other choices...why let them defeat you? Vote for the Libertarian over EITHER of those two swine. If EVERYONE did, he would win and we would win.

Guest
06-05-2016, 11:11 AM
There ARE other choices...why let them defeat you? Vote for the Libertarian over EITHER of those two swine. If EVERYONE did, he would win and we would win.
They may as well vote for you. Statistically your chances of winning are only slightly less then his. It's like buying lottery tickets.

Guest
06-05-2016, 12:25 PM
They may as well vote for you. Statistically your chances of winning are only slightly less then his. It's like buying lottery tickets.

Because statistically, people are sheep, led by their noses by the media, and do what they're told to do. Got it. It's futile to try to make you snap out of their hypnotism.

Guest
06-05-2016, 12:37 PM
Because statistically, people are sheep, led by their noses by the media, and do what they're told to do. Got it. It's futile to try to make you snap out of their hypnotism.Why did Bernie and Clinton go into a party? I wish outsiders had a chance.

Guest
06-05-2016, 12:37 PM
I understand your view, however...

1. First you assume he speaks the truth about those potential openings. His track record on lying is very public, validated and obviously you ignore.

2. Trump has raised so many other issues...nuclear arms, sendin 20000 troops tight ISIS, and a host of other issues, that the Supreme Court lessens. While I DO understand, that issue sort of pales with his attacks on our constitution, form of government and civil discourse.

It is a quandary. Two vile human beings and we are to choose one.

I never heard it from Trump. At least I don't think I have heard anything about the Supreme Court justices from him. I may have, but I do know that I have read and watched a lot of news and they all talk about how important this issue is in the coming election. Why would you believe that Trump made it up? I get the impression that you do not keep current on political rhetoric and commentary. Trump may have said something in one of his speeches about this issue, but he says so many controversial things that I may have missed that one. Needless to say, that if he is the nomination of choice for the Republicans, I'll support him. I don't like very many politicians and trust none of them, but I vote ideology, not person. If he was a criminal, and disloyal to our country, I would vote a third party conservative. But, he is a successful, if arrogant businessman. The left will dig up all the dirt they can on him because they fear that they will lose their grip on the government. They are on a ride right now and living it up at our children's expense. I am not casting all the blame on the left, but a good portion of the socialist portion. Obama has been the least successful of any presidents in history and has dug American into a hole. If we don't act soon, we will be too deep to get out.

Vote for a Republican so that any new Supreme Court vacancies will be filled in a manner that will keep the court balanced.

Guest
06-05-2016, 02:15 PM
I never heard it from Trump. At least I don't think I have heard anything about the Supreme Court justices from him. I may have, but I do know that I have read and watched a lot of news and they all talk about how important this issue is in the coming election. Why would you believe that Trump made it up? I get the impression that you do not keep current on political rhetoric and commentary. Trump may have said something in one of his speeches about this issue, but he says so many controversial things that I may have missed that one. Needless to say, that if he is the nomination of choice for the Republicans, I'll support him. I don't like very many politicians and trust none of them, but I vote ideology, not person. If he was a criminal, and disloyal to our country, I would vote a third party conservative. But, he is a successful, if arrogant businessman. The left will dig up all the dirt they can on him because they fear that they will lose their grip on the government. They are on a ride right now and living it up at our children's expense. I am not casting all the blame on the left, but a good portion of the socialist portion. Obama has been the least successful of any presidents in history and has dug American into a hole. If we don't act soon, we will be too deep to get out.

Vote for a Republican so that any new Supreme Court vacancies will be filled in a manner that will keep the court balanced.

You say I do not seem to follow what is going on, and you are not aware of the Trump list ?

Please, your entire post reeks of being naive. Trump is nothing but an evil man. He is not a man because men do not treat women as he does, and I am speaking of the public cheating and shaming of his wives. A candidate who says that your heritage is some kind of deterent to doing your job is not a man. And today, he took it a step further.

NOW, he completely once again changes his position on Syria. He has changed on almost every position because he has none. He simply says what folks like you want to hear.

How people can follow this man after his almost daily lies on policy, his overwhelming lack of knowledge on basic issue, etc is simply beyond me.

Clinton is not much better but at least she has a clue as to what is happening. I am sure i would disagree with almost anything she does, but your support for Trump is unsupported and you cannot support him based in issues. If you want hate speak, then you got it.

Here are a few economist reviews of his economic ideas which would bankrupt the country and I am hoping he is finally forced into actually discussing these thoughts with the citizens instead of simply yelling out platitudes.

Ben Stein: 'I don't think Trump knows a goddamn thing about economics' | Business | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/04/ben-stein-interview-donald-trump-economics)

Donald Trump 2016 economic agenda: Economists savage Trump's economic agenda - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-economy-217496)

Donald Trump’s Biggest Vulnerability, According to a Nobel Prize–Winni | Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/joseph-e-stiglitz-on-donald-trumps-biggest-vulnerability)

On the world, he want to nuclear arm more countries, dissolve NATO, send 20 000 troops to fight ISIS, had no idea on the nuclear code when asked, and thus far only Russia and North Korea say positive things about him.

ME THINKS I am not the one who is not well read. YOU need to find out some things....have you read these current reports on his scam Trump Univ ?

Former Texas official says he was told to drop Trump University probe - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-texas-official-says-he-was-told-to-drop-trump-university-probe/)


Donald Trump said ‘university’ was all about education. Actually, its goal was: ‘Sell, sell, sell!’ - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-said-university-was-all-about-education-actually-its-goal-was-sell-sell-sell/2016/06/04/5b6545d0-2819-11e6-ae4a-3cdd5fe74204_story.html)

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/06/03/trump-university-gets-deception/vdoPLWCzo81wieBQLtuoiN/story.html

Of course add in the fact that he will not release his income tax as candidate do which would tell us quite a bit about a lot of things.

He is a fraud and is conning you I am afraid to say and I suggest instead of telling people they are not aware you might want to become aware yourself. If you want credible links and verifiable information let me know.

Just start with this...

"It’s the trope on Trump: He’s authentic, a straight-talker, less scripted than traditional politicians. That’s because Donald Trump doesn’t let facts slow him down. Bending the truth or being unhampered by accuracy is a strategy he has followed for years."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/dec/21/2015-lie-year-donald-trump-campaign-misstatements/

OR....

"Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, is at the bottom of the Politifact list with a sad 9% of true or mostly true statements. Just 9% of the things Donald Trump says are mostly related to the truth."

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html

The supreme court justices are important but Trump himself has set new standards for lows and they need to be addressed plus the list he gave which reports say is already changing is just that...a list. He lies so routinely I do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

Guest
06-05-2016, 02:49 PM
You say I do not seem to follow what is going on, and you are not aware of the Trump list ?

Please, your entire post reeks of being naive. Trump is nothing but an evil man. He is not a man because men do not treat women as he does, and I am speaking of the public cheating and shaming of his wives. A candidate who says that your heritage is some kind of deterent to doing your job is not a man. And today, he took it a step further.

NOW, he completely once again changes his position on Syria. He has changed on almost every position because he has none. He simply says what folks like you want to hear.

How people can follow this man after his almost daily lies on policy, his overwhelming lack of knowledge on basic issue, etc is simply beyond me.

Clinton is not much better but at least she has a clue as to what is happening. I am sure i would disagree with almost anything she does, but your support for Trump is unsupported and you cannot support him based in issues. If you want hate speak, then you got it.

Here are a few economist reviews of his economic ideas which would bankrupt the country and I am hoping he is finally forced into actually discussing these thoughts with the citizens instead of simply yelling out platitudes.

Ben Stein: 'I don't think Trump knows a goddamn thing about economics' | Business | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/04/ben-stein-interview-donald-trump-economics)

Donald Trump 2016 economic agenda: Economists savage Trump's economic agenda - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-economy-217496)

Donald Trump’s Biggest Vulnerability, According to a Nobel Prize–Winni | Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/joseph-e-stiglitz-on-donald-trumps-biggest-vulnerability)

On the world, he want to nuclear arm more countries, dissolve NATO, send 20 000 troops to fight ISIS, had no idea on the nuclear code when asked, and thus far only Russia and North Korea say positive things about him.

ME THINKS I am not the one who is not well read. YOU need to find out some things....have you read these current reports on his scam Trump Univ ?

Former Texas official says he was told to drop Trump University probe - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-texas-official-says-he-was-told-to-drop-trump-university-probe/)


Donald Trump said ‘university’ was all about education. Actually, its goal was: ‘Sell, sell, sell!’ - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-said-university-was-all-about-education-actually-its-goal-was-sell-sell-sell/2016/06/04/5b6545d0-2819-11e6-ae4a-3cdd5fe74204_story.html)

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/06/03/trump-university-gets-deception/vdoPLWCzo81wieBQLtuoiN/story.html

Of course add in the fact that he will not release his income tax as candidate do which would tell us quite a bit about a lot of things.

He is a fraud and is conning you I am afraid to say and I suggest instead of telling people they are not aware you might want to become aware yourself. If you want credible links and verifiable information let me know.

Just start with this...

"It’s the trope on Trump: He’s authentic, a straight-talker, less scripted than traditional politicians. That’s because Donald Trump doesn’t let facts slow him down. Bending the truth or being unhampered by accuracy is a strategy he has followed for years."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/dec/21/2015-lie-year-donald-trump-campaign-misstatements/

OR....

"Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, is at the bottom of the Politifact list with a sad 9% of true or mostly true statements. Just 9% of the things Donald Trump says are mostly related to the truth."

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html

The supreme court justices are important but Trump himself has set new standards for lows and they need to be addressed plus the list he gave which reports say is already changing is just that...a list. He lies so routinely I do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth.I usually don't read long posts but I was totally engaged. Thank-you for taking the time to put it all together. I agree with you.

I think and I know I'm not alone that Trump never expected to get this far. That's why he won't release his taxes, lent his campaign $6 million instead of just self support, doesn't seem well prepared and makes remarks without thinking about the consequences. He said he is vindictive and never forgives and I think this payback because Obama embarrassed him at a press luncheon. It's a publicity stunt that went too far.

Guest
06-05-2016, 03:02 PM
I usually don't read long posts but I was totally engaged. Thank-you for taking the time to put it all together. I agree with you.

I think and I know I'm not alone that Trump never expected to get this far. That's why he won't release his taxes, lent his campaign $6 million instead of just self support, doesn't seem well prepared and makes remarks without thinking about the consequences. He said he is vindictive and never forgives and I think this payback because Obama embarrassed him at a press luncheon. It's a publicity stunt that went too far.

You can speculate about it on Nov 9 after he wins the election. As the liberal idol once said "what difference does it make?" Obama was a community organizer, a PC word for activist domestic terrorist. I assume that he is by the company that he keeps, ie. Bill Ayers.

Guest
06-05-2016, 03:09 PM
You can speculate about it on Nov 9 after he wins the election. As the liberal idol once said "what difference does it make?" Obama was a community organizer, a PC word for activist domestic terrorist. I assume that he is by the company that he keeps, ie. Bill Ayers.
US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2016 Tuesday 8th November 2016,
US Presidential Election 2016

Hillary Clinton 1/2
Donald Trump 7/4
Bernie Sanders 20/1
Joe Biden 33/1

These are the betting odds. Put your money where your mouth is. Bet $4 grand and win $7 grand on Trump. Put up or shut up.

US Presidential Election 2016 - US Politics Betting Odds - Paddy Power (http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/us-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=791149)

Guest
06-05-2016, 03:24 PM
You can speculate about it on Nov 9 after he wins the election. As the liberal idol once said "what difference does it make?" Obama was a community organizer, a PC word for activist domestic terrorist. I assume that he is by the company that he keeps, ie. Bill Ayers.

Have you been sleeping as this Trump person cons you all....

"New York's attorney general, who is leading a lawsuit against Trump University there, made his view of the case clear on Thursday: "It's fraud. This is straight up fraud."

Eric Schneiderman laced into presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump over the suit during an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," repeatedly describing the businessman as dishonest and manipulative in his role with the now-defunct program."

Trump University: N.Y. attorney general says 'this is straight up fraud' - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/eric-schneiderman-attorney-general-trump-university-fraud/)

"Donald Trump's Economic Plans Would Destroy the U.S. Economy"

Donald Trump's Economic Ideas Would Destroy the American Economy - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/05/donald-trumps-economy/481743/)

"Why a conservative economist says Trump could make America ‘the North Korea of economics’

Why a conservative economist says Trump could make America ‘the North Korea of economics’ - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/06/how-trump-could-make-america-the-north-korea-of-economics/)

You mention Obama and I am not Obama fan by a long shot...but please get out and learn....

Wealthy Muslims helped Donald Trump build his empire


That’s because Trump’s real estate and licensing income relies in part on wealthy Muslims, and Muslim-backed businesses, both located in the US and overseas—and particularly on a willingness to pay handsomely for things with the “Trump” name on them.

Wealthy Muslims helped Donald Trump build his empire — Quartz (http://qz.com/568178/donald-trump-owes-much-of-his-fortune-to-wea/)

"What about Donald Trump's Muslim nation properties?"

What about Donald Trump's Muslim nation properties? - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-about-donald-trumps-muslim-nation-properties/)

Guest
06-05-2016, 03:33 PM
You can speculate about it on Nov 9 after he wins the election. As the liberal idol once said "what difference does it make?" Obama was a community organizer, a PC word for activist domestic terrorist. I assume that he is by the company that he keeps, ie. Bill Ayers.

You also mentioned associations.....

"A conservative super PAC targeting Donald Trump began running a new TV ad that links the billionaire real estate mogul to business associates who are felons, convicted drug dealers and shady characters with alleged Mafia ties."

Donald Trump's business ties to criminals blasted in TV ad - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/3/donald-trumps-business-ties-criminals-blasted-tv-a/)

"Former Mafia-linked figure describes association with Trump"

Former Mafia-linked figure describes association with Trump - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-mafia-linked-figure-describes-association-with-trump/2016/05/17/cec6c2c6-16d3-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html)

A man who went on the air and bragged to the world how he screwed other guys wives while he was married. A MAN does not do stuff like that. How embrassing for those women and his family.

THIS IS A BAD MAN

Guest
06-05-2016, 03:45 PM
You also mentioned associations.....

"A conservative super PAC targeting Donald Trump began running a new TV ad that links the billionaire real estate mogul to business associates who are felons, convicted drug dealers and shady characters with alleged Mafia ties."

Donald Trump's business ties to criminals blasted in TV ad - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/3/donald-trumps-business-ties-criminals-blasted-tv-a/)

"Former Mafia-linked figure describes association with Trump"

Former Mafia-linked figure describes association with Trump - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-mafia-linked-figure-describes-association-with-trump/2016/05/17/cec6c2c6-16d3-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html)

A man who went on the air and bragged to the world how he screwed other guys wives while he was married. A MAN does not do stuff like that. How embrassing for those women and his family.

THIS IS A BAD MAN

Well, Hillary still has him beat. Trump hasn't been accused of killing anyone yet. So Hillary has him beat in that regard.

Guest
06-05-2016, 03:50 PM
Well, Hillary still has him beat. Trump hasn't been accused of killing anyone yet. So Hillary has him beat in that regard.

Well my assumption here is since he has declared one religion and one ethnic group not eligible to be a judge, that you feel his accusations have the weight of law thus you believe what he says...although he lies more than she does.

A perfect victim for a con job believes everything they are being told, never investigates facts UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE.

Guest
06-05-2016, 03:52 PM
Well, Hillary still has him beat. Trump hasn't been accused of killing anyone yet. So Hillary has him beat in that regard.She has also been accused of squeezing the Charmin but that doesn't mean anything either.

Guest
06-05-2016, 04:07 PM
She has also been accused of squeezing the Charmin but that doesn't mean anything either.

Whatever pleases your little tiny Charmin brainie, child.

Guest
06-05-2016, 04:54 PM
The president said recently that he is not worried that Trump will win the election. He's not worried, so I shall not worry. He has access to much more information than I do. Basically he said stand-by and enjoy the show. Who was it that said 'when your opponent is imploding, step out of his way'?

No matter your opinion of Obama, you must admit he knows how to win elections. His advice on Trump 'ignore, ignore, ignore'. The one thing Donald Trump can't stand is being ignored. Ignoring him just causes him to make a bigger a$$ out of himself and say more outrageous things.

Guest
06-05-2016, 05:42 PM
The president said recently that he is not worried that Trump will win the election. He's not worried, so I shall not worry. He has access to much more information than I do. Basically he said stand-by and enjoy the show. Who was it that said 'when your opponent is imploding, step out of his way'?

No matter your opinion of Obama, you must admit he knows how to win elections. His advice on Trump 'ignore, ignore, ignore'. The one thing Donald Trump can't stand is being ignored. Ignoring him just causes him to make a bigger a$$ out of himself and say more outrageous things.

Obama doesn't know shiola. He is an affirmative action experiment that failed.

I am not worried about Trump. I worry for the country if we don't put an end to the Clintons this year. They are too dangerous to America, but once Hillary is stopped this year, it will be the end of them. They can fade off into oblivion and no one will care.

Guest
06-05-2016, 05:44 PM
The president said recently that he is not worried that Trump will win the election. He's not worried, so I shall not worry. He has access to much more information than I do. Basically he said stand-by and enjoy the show. Who was it that said 'when your opponent is imploding, step out of his way'?

No matter your opinion of Obama, you must admit he knows how to win elections. His advice on Trump 'ignore, ignore, ignore'. The one thing Donald Trump can't stand is being ignored. Ignoring him just causes him to make a bigger a$$ out of himself and say more outrageous things.

You must be worried, since you have posted the same comment on several threads. Don't worry, be happy. After Jan 20th, you liberals can go back and hide under your rock again.

Guest
06-05-2016, 05:46 PM
You must be worried, since you have posted the same comment on several threads. Don't worry, be happy. After Jan 20th, you liberals can go back and hide under your rock again.Why Jan 20th?

Guest
06-05-2016, 05:59 PM
Why Jan 20th?

Why not? Do you have a better date?