golf cart paths

[bbbbbb]

Apparently, some paths are being closed for short or long term?
MONEY, MONEY IT IS ALWAYS MONEY.
This place was formed and was famous for the golf cart paths, the walking areas etc. Long time ago, a person seldom saw a car. Many folks including us came here specifically to avoid the auto mess, the accidents, the long lites at signals. NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
MONEY MONEY MONEY. The car dealers are jumping with joy, the place is spreading to be another LA or Chicago with cars cars cars, the American way of pollution and sales work. How nice it would be to have only a golf car and a bicycle and to walk to shopping? How about the extreme,,,,,,,,,,,,, a monorail. So, back to money, the Village Carts put in a gas pump, whoopee, sell cars to burn gas. Check this: For one pound of fuel, it takes 14 pounds of air for 15 lbs. of CO Co2, NOx, H2O and a lot of unburned hydrocarbons. Village Carts now really tries to play down electric carts, sell gas so how soon will we get auto gas pumps to spread the pollution and the WEALTH????

[NavyNJ]

Apparently, some paths are being closed for short or long term?
MONEY, MONEY IT IS ALWAYS MONEY.
This place was formed and was famous for the golf cart paths, the walking areas etc. Long time ago, a person seldom saw a car. Many folks including us came here specifically to avoid the auto mess, the accidents, the long lites at signals. NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
MONEY MONEY MONEY. The car dealers are jumping with joy, the place is spreading to be another LA or Chicago with cars cars cars, the American way of pollution and sales work. How nice it would be to have only a golf car and a bicycle and to walk to shopping? How about the extreme,,,,,,,,,,,,, a monorail. So, back to money, the Village Carts put in a gas pump, whoopee, sell cars to burn gas. Check this: For one pound of fuel, it takes 14 pounds of air for 15 lbs. of CO Co2, NOx, H2O and a lot of unburned hydrocarbons. Village Carts now really tries to play down electric carts, sell gas so how soon will we get auto gas pumps to spread the pollution and the WEALTH????

Haha!! Silly me!! And I thought this was going to be another thread about golf cart path striping!! :)

I know there has to be something resembling a point in there somewhere......but someone is going to have to help me find it! :)

[Papa]

Apparently, some paths are being closed for short or long term?
MONEY, MONEY IT IS ALWAYS MONEY.
This place was formed and was famous for the golf cart paths, the walking areas etc. Long time ago, a person seldom saw a car. Many folks including us came here specifically to avoid the auto mess, the accidents, the long lites at signals. NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
MONEY MONEY MONEY. The car dealers are jumping with joy, the place is spreading to be another LA or Chicago with cars cars cars, the American way of pollution and sales work. How nice it would be to have only a golf car and a bicycle and to walk to shopping? How about the extreme,,,,,,,,,,,,, a monorail. So, back to money, the Village Carts put in a gas pump, whoopee, sell cars to burn gas. Check this: For one pound of fuel, it takes 14 pounds of air for 15 lbs. of CO Co2, NOx, H2O and a lot of unburned hydrocarbons. Village Carts now really tries to play down electric carts, sell gas so how soon will we get auto gas pumps to spread the pollution and the WEALTH????

Huh?

[DonH57]

I believe one of the cart paths that run behind and thru the village of hacienda hills golf course area will be closed for repairs. Some of the cart trail is uneven and quite bumpy and is in need of repair. I don't know about other cart paths being closed.

[Topspinmo]

The paths are beng close for maintenance and some for replacement of uneven concrete.

New Gas Golf carts probably pollute more than new cars . The villages in about 12 miles across and growing. most of use not going to walk or ride bike from one end to the other.

You are right! It's always about money and whose hand ifs flowing to.

[NYGUY]

Apparently, some paths are being closed for short or long term?
MONEY, MONEY IT IS ALWAYS MONEY.
This place was formed and was famous for the golf cart paths, the walking areas etc. Long time ago, a person seldom saw a car. Many folks including us came here specifically to avoid the auto mess, the accidents, the long lites at signals. NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
MONEY MONEY MONEY. The car dealers are jumping with joy, the place is spreading to be another LA or Chicago with cars cars cars, the American way of pollution and sales work. How nice it would be to have only a golf car and a bicycle and to walk to shopping? How about the extreme,,,,,,,,,,,,, a monorail. So, back to money, the Village Carts put in a gas pump, whoopee, sell cars to burn gas. Check this: For one pound of fuel, it takes 14 pounds of air for 15 lbs. of CO Co2, NOx, H2O and a lot of unburned hydrocarbons. Village Carts now really tries to play down electric carts, sell gas so how soon will we get auto gas pumps to spread the pollution and the WEALTH????

What?? :loco:

[graciegirl]

Apparently, some paths are being closed for short or long term?
MONEY, MONEY IT IS ALWAYS MONEY.
This place was formed and was famous for the golf cart paths, the walking areas etc. Long time ago, a person seldom saw a car. Many folks including us came here specifically to avoid the auto mess, the accidents, the long lites at signals. NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
MONEY MONEY MONEY. The car dealers are jumping with joy, the place is spreading to be another LA or Chicago with cars cars cars, the American way of pollution and sales work. How nice it would be to have only a golf car and a bicycle and to walk to shopping? How about the extreme,,,,,,,,,,,,, a monorail. So, back to money, the Village Carts put in a gas pump, whoopee, sell cars to burn gas. Check this: For one pound of fuel, it takes 14 pounds of air for 15 lbs. of CO Co2, NOx, H2O and a lot of unburned hydrocarbons. Village Carts now really tries to play down electric carts, sell gas so how soon will we get auto gas pumps to spread the pollution and the WEALTH????
They were preparing to paint areas approaching the center islands (shaped like a Y)on the paths on 466 in the last few days. That was delayed because of Tropical Storm Colin.

Village carts sell Electric carts too. Not a good argument. Don't you wish you owned that dealership? Wow. Betcha they make a lot of money...!

As for money, who tells their kids; "Now I want you to be successful, but don't make much money, hear?"

[JoMar]

Haha!! Silly me!! And I thought this was going to be another thread about golf cart path striping!! :)

I know there has to be something resembling a point in there somewhere......but someone is going to have to help me find it! :)

Can't help you......can't find the point of the post either.

[Challenger]

What?? :loco:

Just another ad hominem attack on "The Developer"
What's new?

[CWGUY]

What?? :loco:

:highfive: Could not have said it better!:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

[fred53]

The paths are beng close for maintenance and some for replacement of uneven concrete.

New Gas Golf carts probably pollute more than new cars . The villages in about 12 miles across and growing. most of use not going to walk or ride bike from one end to the other.

You are right! It's always about money and whose hand ifs flowing to.

tell all of us how you come to the conclusion "New Gas Golf carts probably pollute more than new cars."

Old guys named mo are more likely to make things up to get a point across. Sound about right?

[Bogie Shooter]

Apparently, some paths are being closed for short or long term?
MONEY, MONEY IT IS ALWAYS MONEY.
This place was formed and was famous for the golf cart paths, the walking areas etc. Long time ago, a person seldom saw a car. Many folks including us came here specifically to avoid the auto mess, the accidents, the long lites at signals. NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
MONEY MONEY MONEY. The car dealers are jumping with joy, the place is spreading to be another LA or Chicago with cars cars cars, the American way of pollution and sales work. How nice it would be to have only a golf car and a bicycle and to walk to shopping? How about the extreme,,,,,,,,,,,,, a monorail. So, back to money, the Village Carts put in a gas pump, whoopee, sell cars to burn gas. Check this: For one pound of fuel, it takes 14 pounds of air for 15 lbs. of CO Co2, NOx, H2O and a lot of unburned hydrocarbons. Village Carts now really tries to play down electric carts, sell gas so how soon will we get auto gas pumps to spread the pollution and the WEALTH????

To begin with, they are not "golf cart paths" but Multi-Modal Path System, to accommodate walkers, bikers, joggers, etc..
Now what is your point?

[Barefoot]

How nice it would be to have only a golf car and a bicycle and to walk to shopping?
I think your point is there are too many cars in The Villages? :confused:
For most of us, having only a golf cart and a bicycle would be very limiting.
Perhaps in the "old days" when The Villages was young, this would have been possible, but not now.

[pooh]

Not sure what your real problem is with gasoline carts. Many use their carts all over the Villages and need to be able to take their cart without worrying about how much of a charge is left. As for pollution, presenting figures with stats would be more helpful.

The Villages Golf Cart stores has set up gas stations for carts....hooray. They have gasoline that is formulated for gas cart engines. It's a bit more expensive, but it is better for my gas cart, is closer than a long ride to get petrol at one of the automobile stations and doesn't break my budget. A gas cart only holds a limited amount of fuel, but I can get about 200 miles per fill-up.

Yes, there are lots of cars....some of the drivers are residents, some are not. Remember, sometimes people need to get to places other than The Villages, might need to bring items too bulky for their cart from one place to another, and we do have storms with rain and lightning. Golf carts are not a safe place to shelter during electrical storms....AND, air conditioning in the car may be necessary for some.

Times change, things change, there is no stopping this. Sometimes we like the changes, sometimes we don't.

[Mleeja]

Is the OP ranting about the use of fossil fuels, the size of The Villages, cars, or something I am completely missing? Here is a thought just for discussion.... It doesn't really matter how big The Villages is or becomes because on a day-to-day basis it does not matter. We are all going to live within a few mile radius of our homes. We are going to shop at the stores nearest to our homes. Same with Resturants. An exception might be medical or dental.

I will use us as examples. We live near the Savannah Center. We will do most of our shopping either around Spanish Springs or Southern Trace. Entrainment/dining will be in Lake Sumter or Spanish Springs, with occasional trips to Cane Garden or Mallory CCs. We can reach any place we want to go in an electric cart if we choose. (We have one of each so don't start....) If we want to go to Brownwood, we will take the car. But again, there is no real reason for us to go to Brownwood. I am not saying anything bad about Brownwood, it is just not on our "daily" radar. This would be the same as a family living in the southern part of The Villages. They probably would not travel to Spanish Springs other than for a special occasion.

So to conclude my ramblings, Enjoy living in your little slice of The Villages. Do worry about how big this place is becoming.

[Bavarian]

To reply to second part of OP's post, why can not the gas golf cars have emmision controls? They stink in the tunnels. That is why we bought electric. (Plus I am a EE and Electric motors don't need much maintenance, no oil changes, tune ups, etc.)

I think the OP came in upset because his MMTrail was closed.

[JoelJohnson]

I use my car far less now then when I lived up north.
If you are talking about how much the gas carts contribute to air pollution, well I don't have exact numbers, but I would be confident saying that it's a drop in the ocean.

Except for golf courses around the world (which mostly use electric carts), we are the largest buyers of gas golf carts.

So, I read somewhere that there are something like 30,000 - 50,000 carts in TV, if we assume half are gas carts then maybe it's only a half drop in the ocean.

[golf2140]

Apparently, some paths are being closed for short or long term?
MONEY, MONEY IT IS ALWAYS MONEY.
This place was formed and was famous for the golf cart paths, the walking areas etc. Long time ago, a person seldom saw a car. Many folks including us came here specifically to avoid the auto mess, the accidents, the long lites at signals. NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
MONEY MONEY MONEY. The car dealers are jumping with joy, the place is spreading to be another LA or Chicago with cars cars cars, the American way of pollution and sales work. How nice it would be to have only a golf car and a bicycle and to walk to shopping? How about the extreme,,,,,,,,,,,,, a monorail. So, back to money, the Village Carts put in a gas pump, whoopee, sell cars to burn gas. Check this: For one pound of fuel, it takes 14 pounds of air for 15 lbs. of CO Co2, NOx, H2O and a lot of unburned hydrocarbons. Village Carts now really tries to play down electric carts, sell gas so how soon will we get auto gas pumps to spread the pollution and the WEALTH????

How was that herb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ditka41]

Nice rant even if it doesn't make a point. Perhaps this place was not designed to be perfect for all people and the disgruntled are still free to depart whenever they want.

So----outside of the carts, how do you like living here? I looked at a lot of places before retiring to The Villages, and except for a few grouches and seat-savers, I believe it's great.

[Fred R]

My gas golf cart gets over 50 MPG, has one cylinder, is about 361 CC and folks are worried about it polluting the atmosphere??? They should follow a semi done the interstate sometime. I seriously doubt that changing anything in our little community at TV will really have any effect on the world's pollution. IMHO

[biker1]

The maintenance on gas carts is minimal. It is about 30 minutes a year to change the oil, spark plug, air filter, and lube the clutch. I suspect the time is equivalent to checking the batteries and adding water monthly with electrics. Plus on electrics you are replacing the battery pack every few years.

To reply to second part of OP's post, why can not the gas golf cars have emmision controls? They stink in the tunnels. That is why we bought electric. (Plus I am a EE and Electric motors don't need much maintenance, no oil changes, tune ups, etc.)

I think the OP came in upset because his MMTrail was closed.

[Buffalo Jim]

Haha!! Silly me!! And I thought this was going to be another thread about golf cart path striping!! :)

I know there has to be something resembling a point in there somewhere......but someone is going to have to help me find it! :)

HUMM .......... I was hoping that you could interpret this for us or at least me .:(

[bob&Gail]

I wonder how much pollution a coal fired power plant adds to the atmosphere just to charge your batteries over night not to mention your house lights tv air conditioner and so forth. Just a thought

[Barefoot]

Is the OP ranting about the use of fossil fuels, the size of The Villages, cars, or something I am completely missing?
We are still hoping for clarification from bbbbbb. :popcorn:

[looneycat]

it's amazing how many long winded answers there are to this unintelligible post.

[The Mountaineer]

You don't like it, don't do it. You like it, do it. I prefer to rent a gas golf cart because I don't want to be dealing with distilled water in batteries while I'm in The Villages and not Ohio.

I find just about everything in The Villages to be delightful, so I enjoy the hell out of our 4 to 6 months there in the home we own. I'm not crazy about medical episode drivers possibly killing me on the multimodal path, but everything in life has its risks/rewards ratio. I can live with The Villages' r/r ration. Happily.

Best of all, we're not in our Ohio home to be pelted with snow and below-zero temperatures in the winter.

[Bay Kid]

Love The Villages!

[dbussone]

Love The Villages!



Best quote of this thread.


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[Topspinmo]

tell all of us how you come to the conclusion "New Gas Golf carts probably pollute more than new cars."

Old guys named mo are more likely to make things up to get a point across. Sound about right?

I guess you didn't read the probably did you. I can come to any conclusion I want.

One factor might be no pollution control on golf carts especially carburetor carts due to inefficiency. Lawn mower engines by design are not too fuel efficient. And yes golf cart engines are glorified lawn mower engines.

[Topspinmo]

it's amazing how many long winded answers there are to this unintelligible post.

Posts most always go in different directions no matter what the topic was. That why you get so many responses. Posters disagreeing. Some say arguing, verbal fighting, and bulling. If it wasn't for that there would be few posters:posting:

[Topspinmo]

I wonder how much pollution a coal fired power plant adds to the atmosphere just to charge your batteries over night not to mention your house lights tv air conditioner and so forth. Just a thought

IMO there will be coal fired power plants for at least another 50 years. Solar and wind power can't generate enough electricity to power big cities. Hydro electric will drop due to water consumption increases. IMO That leaves coal for the near future/century?

[Barefoot]

it's amazing how many long winded answers there are to this unintelligible post.

Posts most always go in different directions no matter what the topic was. That why you get so many responses. Posters disagreeing. Some say arguing, verbal fighting, and bulling. If it wasn't for that there would be few posters
This thread seemed to touch a lot of posters, even if we were uncertain about the OP's intended topic.
I like Topspinmo's comment above.

[Jima64]

I wonder how much pollution a coal fired power plant adds to the atmosphere just to charge your batteries over night not to mention your house lights tv air conditioner and so forth. Just a thought

i:d rather have a nuke plant to charge those batteries, maybe make them glow also.

[JoMar]

When was the last time anyone saw a coal fired power plant putting black smoke in the air? And where?

[biker1]

If you are referring to the US, you may see the percentage of electricity generated from natural gas increase. Currently, coal and natural gas each account for about 33% of the generated electricity with nuclear at 20%. The rest is hydroelectric and renewables.

IMO there will be coal fired power plants for at least another 50 years. Solar and wind power can't generate enough electricity to power big cities. Hydro electric will drop due to water consumption increases. IMO That leaves coal for the near future/century?