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Guest
07-08-2016, 12:00 PM
Certainly, the police were justified in the killing of the sniper who killed 5 or more police officers during the otherwise peaceful and legal protest.

However, while a robot device with a bomb detonating near the shooter was definitely the safest way of taking out the shooter - was it totally safe for the area? By that, I mean, did the Dallas police know for a CERTAINITY that there were not people being held hostage by another person in the sniper's immediate region? What would have been the repercussions if there had been 100 hostages in the immediate area and they were also killed by the remote control bomb?

Anyhow, condolences go to the families of the police officers killed in this senseless shooting.

The two killings of Black men by police officers does not justify revenge killings by anyone.

Guest
07-08-2016, 03:30 PM
Certainly, the police were justified in the killing of the sniper who killed 5 or more police officers during the otherwise peaceful and legal protest.

However, while a robot device with a bomb detonating near the shooter was definitely the safest way of taking out the shooter - was it totally safe for the area? By that, I mean, did the Dallas police know for a CERTAINITY that there were not people being held hostage by another person in the sniper's immediate region? What would have been the repercussions if there had been 100 hostages in the immediate area and they were also killed by the remote control bomb?

Anyhow, condolences go to the families of the police officers killed in this senseless shooting.

The two killings of Black men by police officers does not justify revenge killings by anyone.

I think you speculative questioning after the fact for something that did not happen undermines the excellent job Dallas Law Enforcement accomplished eliminating a domestic terrorist.

Guest
07-08-2016, 03:58 PM
Certainly, the police were justified in the killing of the sniper who killed 5 or more police officers during the otherwise peaceful and legal protest.

However, while a robot device with a bomb detonating near the shooter was definitely the safest way of taking out the shooter - was it totally safe for the area? By that, I mean, did the Dallas police know for a CERTAINITY that there were not people being held hostage by another person in the sniper's immediate region? What would have been the repercussions if there had been 100 hostages in the immediate area and they were also killed by the remote control bomb?

Anyhow, condolences go to the families of the police officers killed in this senseless shooting.

The two killings of Black men by police officers does not justify revenge killings by anyone.

The RIOTERS declared WAR. Snipers in position shooting at cops.

Your suggestion coulda, mighta. Realize that it is far easier to sit at your computer and second guess. Had the cops brought in armored vehicles the LIBS as the've done in the past would have been screaming bloody murder.

Guest
07-08-2016, 04:38 PM
[QUOTE=Guest;1251393]The RIOTERS declared WAR. Snipers in position shooting at cops.
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There was NO rioting! There were protestors in a peaceful march.

Terrible that two snipers took extremely unlawful actions.

Protest marches also took place in other cities such as New York and Washington,DC. There was NO RIOTING. These people were entirely withing their Constitutional rights - until, of course, when 2 snipers killed the policemen.

Guest
07-08-2016, 05:53 PM
Certainly, the police were justified in the killing of the sniper who killed 5 or more police officers during the otherwise peaceful and legal protest.

However, while a robot device with a bomb detonating near the shooter was definitely the safest way of taking out the shooter - was it totally safe for the area? By that, I mean, did the Dallas police know for a CERTAINITY that there were not people being held hostage by another person in the sniper's immediate region? What would have been the repercussions if there had been 100 hostages in the immediate area and they were also killed by the remote control bomb?

Anyhow, condolences go to the families of the police officers killed in this senseless shooting.

The two killings of Black men by police officers does not justify revenge killings by anyone.
Don't want to read anymore in your post than you intended but need to ask if you believe white cops are bias and looking to kill blacks? Why are cops at a heighten sense of concern for their safety when deal with a young black man. If you believe it is prejudice than you and I disagree. I believe the root cause is violent crime committed by black men, life experience.

Guest
07-08-2016, 06:47 PM
Don't want to read anymore in your post than you intended but need to ask if you believe white cops are bias and looking to kill blacks? Why are cops at a heighten sense of concern for their safety when deal with a young black man. If you believe it is prejudice than you and I disagree. I believe the root cause is violent crime committed by black men, life experience.

No, I don't think there is a widespread bias on the part of white cops.

The two recent killings of black men by police were caught on camera. The one in Minnesota was killed by a policeman who obviously panicked when the black man said he had a carry permit and a gun in the car when he was pulled over for a broken tail light. The second one in Louisiana was handcuffed and on the ground when the officer shot him several times at point blank range.

Does Black Lives Matter have a right to peaceful marches? Yes!
Is any rioting or looting permissable? No, that is criminal and should be prosecuted.

Guest
07-08-2016, 07:56 PM
From what I read, the shooter, Micha Johnson, would have been automatically eligible to get a CCW if he lived in Florida. He was an honorably discharged veteran and did not have a criminal record. He would not have needed any classes but just a fingerprint check, his DD214, and about $115.

Does that make anyone uneasy?

Guest
07-08-2016, 08:29 PM
From what I read, the shooter, Micha Johnson, would have been automatically eligible to get a CCW if he lived in Florida. He was an honorably discharged veteran and did not have a criminal record. He would not have needed any classes but just a fingerprint check, his DD214, and about $115.

Does that make anyone uneasy?

What difference does it really make? It only proves that someone doesn't need a concealed carry permit to murder someone.

Guest
07-09-2016, 05:09 AM
Black lives matter was peaceful? Tell that to the police that had their head quarters spray painted. Tell that to the police that have to hear them chant "kill them, pigs in a blanket, kill them now." We are on the verge of a racial war thanks in part to Obama that eggs it on with his racial divisiveness.

More whites are killed by cops than blacks. Just because a black killing is sensationalized by the liberal media does not make these white cops racists. If it was a black cop that killed those two, it would not be in the news. The only reason the family even cares, half the time, is for the money they can extort from the state. Just a better form of welfare for them. I am not saying that these two cops were right. But, they do deserve a right to explain themselves without everyone assuming that they are racists. They could have just been wrong, without being racists.

I hear this thing about blacks being stopped for tail light out, like that is a racist thing. I have been stopped by the cops for a taillight out also. And they also do a computer check for warrants whenever they make a stop. You want to make a big deal out of blacks being stopped? Then, how about making a big deal out of whites being stopped also, so that you are deemed racist? YES, there is profiling by the police. That usually makes them better at deterring crime. If someone's feelings are hurt, they are probably taking it the wrong way.

The killer in Dallas said he hated white people. He also shot a black woman. He was a mental case. Nothing more. It does not have to be a political thing. He had a death wish and he decided to take some cops out with him. He had a perception that cops wanted to kill blacks, so in his warped mind, he decided to attack first. Maybe I am wrong, and maybe we don't know enough about the killings yet. This is just my opinion, but Oblunder should not have gone on TV and announced to the world that COPs generally persecute blacks more than whites, and that the cause of killings is guns.

Guest
07-09-2016, 05:45 AM
Don't want to read anymore in your post than you intended but need to ask if you believe white cops are bias and looking to kill blacks? Why are cops at a heighten sense of concern for their safety when deal with a young black man. If you believe it is prejudice than you and I disagree. I believe the root cause is violent crime committed by black men, life experience.

You're a racist if you think that way...they're innocent and if they do become violent, it's our fault.

Life experience also taught us how worthless they are.

From what I read, the shooter, Micha Johnson, would have been automatically eligible to get a CCW if he lived in Florida. He was an honorably discharged veteran and did not have a criminal record. He would not have needed any classes but just a fingerprint check, his DD214, and about $115.

Does that make anyone uneasy?

Being black is a better predictor of violence than anything else. Ben THEM for having guns and you eliminate 80-90% of the gun violence. But nobody will admit that...

Black lives matter was peaceful? Tell that to the police that had their head quarters spray painted. Tell that to the police that have to hear them chant "kill them, pigs in a blanket, kill them now." We are on the verge of a racial war thanks in part to Obama that eggs it on with his racial divisiveness.

More whites are killed by cops than blacks. Just because a black killing is sensationalized by the liberal media does not make these white cops racists. If it was a black cop that killed those two, it would not be in the news. The only reason the family even cares, half the time, is for the money they can extort from the state. Just a better form of welfare for them. I am not saying that these two cops were right. But, they do deserve a right to explain themselves without everyone assuming that they are racists. They could have just been wrong, without being racists.

I hear this thing about blacks being stopped for tail light out, like that is a racist thing. I have been stopped by the cops for a taillight out also. And they also do a computer check for warrants whenever they make a stop. You want to make a big deal out of blacks being stopped? Then, how about making a big deal out of whites being stopped also, so that you are deemed racist? YES, there is profiling by the police. That usually makes them better at deterring crime. If someone's feelings are hurt, they are probably taking it the wrong way.

The killer in Dallas said he hated white people. He also shot a black woman. He was a mental case. Nothing more. It does not have to be a political thing. He had a death wish and he decided to take some cops out with him. He had a perception that cops wanted to kill blacks, so in his warped mind, he decided to attack first. Maybe I am wrong, and maybe we don't know enough about the killings yet. This is just my opinion, but Oblunder should not have gone on TV and announced to the world that COPs generally persecute blacks more than whites, and that the cause of killings is guns.

Racism is a one way street...only WE can be racist. I'm almost looking forward to a civil breakdown so we can SOLVE this minority problem once and for all.

Guest
07-09-2016, 06:21 AM
You're a racist if you think that way...they're innocent and if they do become violent, it's our fault.

Life experience also taught us how worthless they are.



Being black is a better predictor of violence than anything else. Ben THEM for having guns and you eliminate 80-90% of the gun violence. But nobody will admit that...



Racism is a one way street...only WE can be racist. I'm almost looking forward to a civil breakdown so we can SOLVE this minority problem once and for all.

Then start at the top and work down until you get to the innocents. There is no reason that innocents need to be involved when it is all the political hacks at the top that are agitating, as well as the media. We were much better off before Obama. He has set racial tensions back to the 60's all by himself.

Guest
07-09-2016, 08:50 AM
As Joe Friday would put it....just the facts !

The joker in the WH defaults to his agenda on guns and as usual wrong in doing so.

The guns are not the problem.

The single biggest change in gun ownership that wouls make a significant difference is simply not allowing blacks to obtain, own or be in the vicinity of a gun.

Gun crime percentages will drop like a rock.

And as is always the case will have no effect on the random wacko that goes into a gun free zone and murders a bunch of innocents. There are no laws that will prevent this.

But blacks with guns. Like it or not is the major problem.
Greatest percentage of prison in mates? Black.
Greatest number of killing each other? Blacks.

If we can't get the joker in the WH to state that islamic terrorism is a threat to America. How would he ever state that gun violence among blacks is also a threat to America.

If a red headed person were seen commiting a murder, the proflie would include stating the perp had red hair. And like it or not every person with red hair would be scrutinized.

So why is it a big deal when most murders, rapes, shootings, robberies, commited by blacks......to state the perp(s) were black (again) and look for a black person.

Instead of the so called protestors or pseudo rioters marching in the streets erroneously reported in the media as the representation of the race.........the peaceful law abiding blacks need to stand and be counted and rise up and take their own to task.

That silent majority is as likely to do something as the majority silent majority in America does.....NOTHING!!

America gets what it deserves. Criminal politicians, degrading freedoms and a also ran America!!!.

Guest
07-09-2016, 09:59 AM
I predicted a Civil War II months ago, how far fetched was I?

Racial tensions are at an all time high, 52% of this country is receiving government assistance, we have 3 generation of families that have never worked a day in their lives living in HUD and they have developed a sense of entitlement, we will have a 20 trillion dollar debt when Obamma leaves office, the checks will stop and those people will take what they feel they are owed. STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest
07-09-2016, 10:28 AM
The race baiter is talking to himself and answering himself AGAIN just to make it look like others are agreeing with his crazy ideas and his tin foil hat notions.

He wants to take Constitutional rights away from an entire race of people. Sounds a little Hitler-like, doesn't he?

Well, there are some wack jobs living in The Villages, just like you will find some wack jobs in New York, San Francisco, or Des Moines.

If this racist wack job on TOTV is so adamant about his ideas, why does he cower in back of a keyboard and not let everyone know who he really is?

Guest
07-09-2016, 10:42 AM
why does he cower in back of a keyboard and not let everyone know who he really is?

You should probably teach him a lesson by example, why don't you sign your name to your posts?

Guest
07-09-2016, 10:55 AM
The fact is if the two white cops had not shot and killed the two back men on consecutive days, there would not have been any demonstrations and five police officers would be alive today. I hope these two cops realize their guilt in this horrible event. The dead cops blood is on their hands.

Guest
07-09-2016, 11:27 AM
The fact is if the two white cops had not shot and killed the two back men on consecutive days, there would not have been any demonstrations and five police officers would be alive today. I hope these two cops realize their guilt in this horrible event. The dead cops blood is on their hands.I don't agree with you even though we probably are both on the left side of the equation.

I think if the sniper wanted payback or he would have went after the officers you mentioned.

The sniper and the Orlando shooter are sick and healthy people want it to look logical. They want to see a motive they can understand. The press offers motives to get readers.

Years ago the Beltway Sniper Terrorized a large area. He was a Black Muslim. If you can believe him he said he shot all those people because he really wanted his wife dead and she was next. After he shot her he would not be a suspect. It's logical on a simple level and quite sick on another.

What disturbs me is that people are getting use to this violence.

Everyone goes to what they know or think they know. Some know having a gun is better than needing a gun. Some know that a gun capable of shooting 60 times in in less than 2 minutes and can be quickly reloaded is not meant for deer hunting.

I think our leaders are asking us to be patient and to morn with the families while we all look for solutions. I don't want us to be a country where your kids can turn you in for anti-government statements at the dinner table but I also don't want to be a country where if I see the guy down the street sitting on his porch with a shotgun I'm not going to get involved.

I don't know the answer.

Guest
07-09-2016, 12:23 PM
The fact is if the two white cops had not shot and killed the two back men on consecutive days, there would not have been any demonstrations and five police officers would be alive today. I hope these two cops realize their guilt in this horrible event. The dead cops blood is on their hands.

You are a pathetic loser. These cops may or may not have been racist. No one knows at this point. If those two shot and killed were white, then it would not have even been in the liberal news. The fact is that racism on the OTHER side killed those COPs in Dallas. You can thank the liberal media NOT the Cops for causing the mass killing in Dallas. You don't know if those two COPs in two different locations were or were not racists. Not all cops are racists. You can ALSO blame Obummer for the killings as he blames COPs every chance he gets, as well as blaming them all for being racists. He is the worst scumbag racist in government today. He should go on trial right along with Hillary. Oblunder is a racist and liberals accept it as normal.

But, you are still a loser for making a statement like that.

Guest
07-09-2016, 12:24 PM
You should probably teach him a lesson by example, why don't you sign your name to your posts?

:agree:...:thumbup:

Guest
07-09-2016, 01:26 PM
You should probably teach him a lesson by example, why don't you sign your name to your posts?

I actually know who this pathetic loser is - both by screen name and by real name - and in "real life", yes, he is still a pathetic loser.

I will not give out his screen name or real name on THIS forum. Part of the rules we all abide to.

Guest
07-10-2016, 06:55 AM
I actually know who this pathetic loser is - both by screen name and by real name - and in "real life", yes, he is still a pathetic loser.

I will not give out his screen name or real name on THIS forum. Part of the rules we all abide to.
I did not suggest you would give out his name...
I suggested you would set an example by signing your name to your posts.

In simple terms: If you are unwilling to sign your name to your posts, stop asking others to do so!