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islandgal
02-09-2009, 08:04 AM
Perhaps some of you have see this site. I have been curious
about the octuplet mom's living conditions when she will have 16 children,
which I can't comprehend!!
This morning, the Today Show recommended this site:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/

graciegirl
02-09-2009, 08:13 AM
Island Gal, I will go and look at this site as soon as I say this. Does it look like she has had lip augmentation done as per Angelina Jolie? Also she had a manicure. More time than most people would choose to be away or could spare to be away from six children under eight.

My first impression of her is that she is well meaning without realizing what she had done and hasn't passed out of her playing doll phase. (Who said "There are a lot of good intentioned people in hell?")

Just returned from looking at this site. I can't see how they can find room for these little ones. Little children have high incidents of communicable disease and immunizing colds that they will pass to these little babies who are not very strong to begin with. The mother (grandmother) is to be pitied. She too is stuck by a deplorable decision made by her daughter, (I think of Cindy Anthony) This goes beyond being materialistic. The emotional stress of raising these children and being one of these children in incalculable.

It seems to me that the mother has given little thought to where the money is coming from to feed and clothe these children. She says she has received no public assistance. I imagine that the tax payers will foot the bill eventually. It seems that all that mom had was an idea.

Cassie325
02-09-2009, 10:06 AM
Thankfully I have not had to go through invitro, but I have had friends that have...and from what I understand it is very costly! Where on earth does she get the money to do this?

If she indeed has this kind of money than she should be able to get a new home and several nannies....somehow I don't see this happening.

JUREK
02-09-2009, 10:50 AM
Islandgal:

Thanks for the post because I did not see these pictures before. I feel sorry for the grandmother for sure. The mother and clinic should be investigated and dealt with.

Russ_Boston
02-09-2009, 10:51 AM
Where on earth does she get the money to do this?

IVF is very expensive yet is coverered under some plans for a certain number of attempts. BUT should it be covered when you already have 6 children? Maybe our new economy will force some hard choices to be made. This one is an easy one.

Cassie325
02-09-2009, 10:55 AM
IVF is very expensive yet is coverered under some plans for a certain number of attempts. BUT should it be covered when you already have 6 children? Maybe our new economy will force some hard choices to be made. This one is an easy one.

Well perhaps I should move this question to political...BUT if she was not working then my guess would be that she and her children are on Medicaid! Just a guess! So that means that our tax dollars helped her get pregnant! Now will our tax dollars help her care for the children as well? I know she states she has not recieved any governement help, but I could have sworn I heard she did.

BritParrothead
02-09-2009, 11:36 AM
I have just seen photos of the 8 babes. They look incredible for ones that were born so premature!
But, what on earth is she thinking?? Maybe she has seen Jon & Kate plus 8 and wants to get a little bit of the action?

fraurauch
02-09-2009, 12:13 PM
On television this morning, they said she had been injured while working at a mental institution, and had received something like $165,000 as a settlement. They went on to say her Mother did not know she had received this money.

njgranny
02-09-2009, 12:21 PM
This story gets more incredible, the more we hear. She definitely has a problem. No one with any sense at all would want so many children without the means to care for them.

My children all have good jobs and stable home lives, but they all decided to stop at just two children each. They felt that they could handle two emotionally and financially.

Friends of my daughter tried in vitro which didn't work, and they couldn't afford more tries. They didn't realize that the state hospitalization plan (the husband is a state worker) had just started covering a good portion of in-vitro. I told my daughter to pass on the information. The woman eventually had twins (boy and girl), and just recently had another child naturally. If this hadn't happened, they would have kept their family size to two kids.

My first thought when I heard this story was how she was paying for all that in-vitro.

According to stories, she has received around $165,000 in disability because she supposedly had a back injury during the years when she had all these kids.

Wow, I'm babbling. Jan

bestmickey
02-09-2009, 03:29 PM
You can bet that it's the taxpayers who will pay for the hospital bills. Or, their health insurace premiums will increase, in order to provide needed financial recovery for the hospital. I haven't watched any long stories/intervews about the mother. However, it appears to me that she certainly has "head" problems. I may be wrong, but I think she's interested in having a television career (like Kate and John, or that other show where there are 17 or 18 kids).

I do not think this woman should be rewarded by having a tv career or even by having donations of food, diapers, etc. I rather think these children should be taken away from her as she clearly has no way of providing adequate support for their care. Besides, I'd hate to see the children raised by a mother who has "head" problems. Perhaps even some of the older children need to be investigated by child welfare services. There are loads of well caring people in society who would love to adopt a child.

I realize what I've said here could upset lots of people reading this. Just saying what is my personal opinion. You have a right to a different opinion.

Mikitv
02-09-2009, 05:06 PM
I did see the grandmother of these children on GMA this morning and from what she said it has been her taking care of the the six kids at their home.

I've asked myself the same questions, how did she pay for all the in-vitro treatments, how does she pay for these kids is she has no job. Sounds like she takes care of herself and not the kids. The poor grandmother has had it from what she said this morning.

I think the doctor or clinic should be investigated and I feel that this women should not be rewarded for her irresponsibility. She gave no thought to how these children would be raised and only thought about herself with her excuse that she wanted a big family. So why implant all those eggs at one time when she had been doing only one pregnancy at a time and from the ages one every year.

I feel sorry for the children because they have such a mother.

I am sure that she is already out there collecting money for interviews and pictures. It makes it seem like she did this last pregnancy for the money and notoriety it would bring her.

Barefoot
02-09-2009, 05:33 PM
You can bet that it's the taxpayers who will pay for the hospital bills. Or, their health insurace premiums will increase, in order to provide needed financial recovery for the hospital. I haven't watched any long stories/intervews about the mother. However, it appears to me that she certainly has "head" problems. I may be wrong, but I think she's interested in having a television career (like Kate and John, or that other show where there are 17 or 18 kids).

I do not think this woman should be rewarded by having a tv career or even by having donations of food, diapers, etc. I rather think these children should be taken away from her as she clearly has no way of providing adequate support for their care. Besides, I'd hate to see the children raised by a mother who has "head" problems. Perhaps even some of the older children need to be investigated by child welfare services. There are loads of well caring people in society who would love to adopt a child.

I realize what I've said here could upset lots of people reading this. Just saying what is my personal opinion. You have a right to a different opinion.

:agree:

I think she is incredibly naive. Is she well intentioned? Who knows. But I'll bet she is loving every second of the publicity. And there is talk of a TV show for her, a book, and a movie! :yuck:

billethkid
02-09-2009, 07:05 PM
by an entitlement person looking for freebies.

She was quoted just after the birth that she thought this would be enough to get a lot of free stuff including a house and a car.

Take the kids away and put them in decent homes and put her to work!!

BTK

tony
02-09-2009, 07:38 PM
I missed where she was quoted as saying that.

Where was it?

Cassie325
02-10-2009, 09:07 AM
I missed where she was quoted as saying that.

Where was it?

While I agree that what she did was very irresponsible...I have to agree with Tony that I have not heard her say anything at all about wanting freebies. I actually thought it was reported that she did not want to speak or have her name out there as she wasn't doing it for the publicity. HOWEVER...isn't it ironic that suddenly her information is everywhere?

Who knows what she is thinking! I can't imagine she is even capable of thinking through anything at the moment...with 14 kids! YIKES!!! that $165,000 will be gone pretty fast if it isn't already!

I am one of 8 and my father worked 3 jobs at times....thankfully he is a very educated man and was able to care for us all and enable Mom to stay home until we were all a little older. Of course being Irish Catholic there were some portions of education that were left out...hehehe....I always told them they should have stopped after just 2!!

graciegirl
02-10-2009, 09:29 AM
I don't know what her motives are and I haven't read or heard of her saying anything about wanting money. I suspect that like many of us she loves little ones. HOWEVER, as WE all know they grow out of their puppyhood and kittenhood real soon. And as my sainted mother was heard to say...

There's not a kid in the world that is cute after 8:00 at night!

Cassie325
02-10-2009, 10:47 AM
And as my sainted mother was heard to say...

There's not a kid in the world that is cute after 8:00 at night!

I am not kidding you...my mother said the same thing...still does....

Although we are still debating (after raising 8 of us) whether she is saintly or INsane....we think a little of both! God Bless her! No thanks!!:faint::yuck:

Perhaps the saintedness (if it's a word) comes after raising us all and getting us all out on our own somehow....the insane part was when we were all living there and that was probably our fault!

This girl has a LONG, HARD road ahead of her...which ever way it turns! My prayer is for those babies...all of them!!

KayakerNC
02-11-2009, 05:42 PM
Oh great!
Now she has her own website looking for donations.
barf
http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/

marianne237
02-23-2009, 01:18 PM
There was a story on CNN or HLN about this woman. She supposedly had plastic surgery after her first 6 kids were born. The news channel showed "before" pictures of her and spoke with neighbors who have known
her. There was a big difference made in her looks. According to one neighbor, she adored Angelina Jolie and wanted to be just like her. And now sadly there's the info coming out about losing the house she lives in because it's arrears mortgage wise $23,000+.

graciegirl
02-23-2009, 02:14 PM
There was a story on CNN or HLN about this woman. She supposedly had plastic surgery after her first 6 kids were born. The news channel showed "before" pictures of her and spoke with neighbors who have known
her. There was a big difference made in her looks. According to one neighbor, she adored Angelina Jolie and wanted to be just like her. And now sadly there's the info coming out about losing the house she lives in because it's arrears mortgage wise $23,000+.

Helloooooooo. Throwing money away on your face while the house that you live in belonging to your parents isn't paid on? NO NO NO. Please don't give her any more of the public funds that I contribute to.

islandgal
02-23-2009, 05:25 PM
I also heard on TV she is shopping for a $1.5 million 5-bedroom home - (5 bedrooms enough????) She needs a hotel.
I am certain that sickos who are sending Casey Anthony money in jail to buy caviar and whatever,
will send this freak money also.

billethkid
02-23-2009, 11:03 PM
A real mom she is not...oh yes she did give birth...but doesn't go much beyond that except for the personal gain to be had.

An entitlement citizen getting more than her share.

The kids, as usual are the losers.

BTK

Barefoot
03-10-2009, 08:02 PM
It was reported today that Octuplet Mom has purchased a house for $564,000.00 .... with money she received for baby pictures. Supposedly she is also trying to sell the pictures of the actual birth for over one million.

Looks like her strategy is working.

graciegirl
03-10-2009, 08:09 PM
When my kids were babies, each and both under three months old, I didn't have enough time to shower let alone get my nails done and give a gazillion interviews. If I had been in a studio somewhere away from my baby I would have been so worried about whether she was crying or needing me. I was just an ordinary mother like millions of others. We are programmed to obsess over our little ones.

Cassie325
03-10-2009, 08:15 PM
Did anyone watch the Dr. Phil show? I did not...but heard she was suppose to make a huge announcement. I am wondering if anyone knows what it is...

billethkid
03-10-2009, 09:13 PM
is pregnant again and going for 10!!

BTK

Whalen
03-10-2009, 11:16 PM
Aside from the media circus, why are so many level headed people I know indulging in this debate?
As far as I am concerned there is no debate.
Social services should step in, decide on the best interest of all the children, and at the end of the day determine that she is unfit, take the children away
and find them all decent homes.
Then Dr Phil & Oprah can find someone else to exploit.
JMHO

graciegirl
03-11-2009, 01:25 AM
Aside from the media circus, why are so many level headed people I know indulging in this debate?
As far as I am concerned there is no debate.
Social services should step in, decide on the best interest of all the children, and at the end of the day determine that she is unfit, take the children away
and find them all decent homes.
Then Dr Phil & Oprah can find someone else to exploit.
JMHO

You are right, as usual!!:coolsmiley:

GMONEY
03-11-2009, 05:37 AM
The bad thing is, she will get a bailout, get this expensive house and we will pay for it all as usual. I hear again this morning that some vivd films who do porn are offereing her more money now. There is not telling how she is getting all the money, BUT IT JUST AINT RIGHT...