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Army Guy
03-17-2009, 07:09 AM
When playing golf at TV, do they always put you in a four some if you are only 2? Can you request to stay a two some? Even the Champ courses?

Thanks, Army Guy

l2ridehd
03-17-2009, 07:20 AM
I sure hope not. Why shouldn't everyone try to get as many people around as possible. You go out as a two some, that means two other folks don't get to play. You want to go out with only two, pay for 4. Besides a round with only two players is boring as you have to wait on almost every shot.

In the off season when play is lite, maybe OK, but during the busy season you are depriving others of a chance to play.

Ooper
03-17-2009, 07:29 AM
There have been occassions where my wife and I had a tee time which no one else requested and they sent us out as a two-some on both execs and championship courses. I agee with the above poster, however, if there is a chance to make a complete foursome, it is encouraged. However, if you are a twosome and nobody else around, they will send you out.

Indy-Guy
03-17-2009, 07:34 AM
When playing golf at TV, do they always put you in a foursome if you are only 2? Can you request to stay a twosome? Even the Champ courses?

Thanks, Army Guy

When you reserve a tee time there is always a chance that you will end up as a foursome. This time of the year if you are playing anytime before 4:00 I would say it is a 99% chance that you will be in a foursome. If you show up at 4:00 or so then the chances are good that you will be a twosome. The 4:00 tee times are by phone in the day of play or show up.

Last week my guest and I had a 1:00 tee time at Palmer and we had a four some for the first nine holes. The people that we were playing with were only playing 9. When we made the turn to Riley Grove we were the only two people on the golf course. We played that nine without seeing anyone ahead or behind us.

Don't let playing with people you don't know bother you. It is a great way to meet a lot if nice people. I have lived here for 3 years and only played with one jerk. I was lucky he was in the other cart. The guy I was riding with and I just laughed at him. Sure there are some people that you really enjoy playing with and others that you didn't mind playing with but wouldn't go out of your way to play with again.

If you do want to play as a twosome play late in the day.

Army Guy
03-17-2009, 07:59 AM
It is not that we want to deprive anyone. Me & the wife both play, and the problems we have had before is when they put us in a four-some and it is with two other guys, with another couple or two other women, no problem. Most, not all, guys view women golfers as inferior and treading on their sport. Now before someone, starts jumping and saying that is not true, I did not say ALL men, but I will say most.
Plus we enjoy that time as a couple, we took up golf together to be able to spend more time together. And I can say we do think of other golfers and avoid popular tee-times. And yes, I have paid for 4, at various courses to remain a two-some. Playing with just my wife is that important to me. But that is just me, and us.
I am sorry if this question upset anyone, it was not intended too.

Army Guy

Indy-Guy
03-17-2009, 08:10 AM
It is not that we want to deprive anyone. Me & the wife both play, and the problems we have had before is when they put us in a four-some and it is with two other guys, with another couple or two other women, no problem. Most, not all, guys view women golfers as inferior and treading on their sport. Now before someone, starts jumping and saying that is not true, I did not say ALL men, but I will say most.
Plus we enjoy that time as a couple, we took up golf together to be able to spend more time together. And I can say we do think of other golfers and avoid popular tee-times. And yes, I have paid for 4, at various courses to remain a two-some. Playing with just my wife is that important to me. But that is just me, and us.
I am sorry if this question upset anyone, it was not intended too.

Army Guy

I fully understand what you are saying. If you are on the computer tee time system and you go to the 3 days out tee times the system will show if you are joining either 2 guys or 1 guy and 1 lady or 2 ladies. This will help you do what you would like to do as far a lady guy thing. The system shows this at either the Champ or Exec courses. My wife dosen't want to play with 3 guys as I would not like to play with 3 ladies. I will play with all ladies if one is my wife. The computer tee time system will enable you to see what you are getting as long as you do the 3 days out. If you go for a request before 3 days it is pot luck.

ajdeck
03-17-2009, 08:12 AM
Army Guy, I know what you are saying relating to playing golf with your wife. My wife and I are the same, we love doing things together and enjoy couples golf more than guy golf. Not saying I don't enjoy being around and playing golf with the guys but not all the time.

ajdeck

katezbox
03-17-2009, 08:15 AM
It is not that we want to deprive anyone. Me & the wife both play, and the problems we have had before is when they put us in a four-some and it is with two other guys, with another couple or two other women, no problem. Most, not all, guys view women golfers as inferior and treading on their sport. Now before someone, starts jumping and saying that is not true, I did not say ALL men, but I will say most.
Plus we enjoy that time as a couple, we took up golf together to be able to spend more time together. And I can say we do think of other golfers and avoid popular tee-times. And yes, I have paid for 4, at various courses to remain a two-some. Playing with just my wife is that important to me. But that is just me, and us.
I am sorry if this question upset anyone, it was not intended too.

Army Guy

Hi Army Guy,

My husband and I always feel fortunate when we get to play as "just" a twosome. When I first started playing I was fairly intimidated by being paired with two men - I always thought they must be so much better. And I also experienced a little of the attitude you describe.

That being said, we have met lots of great people form all over the world. We played in TV with a couple originally from Iceland and now living part-time in TV and part time elsewhere in Europe! I especially like being paired up with another couple, so please PM us when you get to TV (we will move in late April) if you would like to play with another couple.

Kate (and Jim)

Army Guy
03-17-2009, 08:35 AM
ok, we will have to look at that on the computer and see. Didn't know that was possible, nut we like that. If we could make it couples or women that would be great.
And yes, we also have met some great couples when we have played with others. It is just the us and two other guy mix that causes the angst. And I know it does for them too.

Army Guy

l2ridehd
03-17-2009, 08:57 AM
I also enjoy playing with my wife, but if we link up with two other guys, I have never found that to be an issue. If they go out as a two some, they have to expect that and it should not be an issue.

Short story. I went to this golf course to play by myself in Virginia. (private club) Go to tee and there is two women they sent me out with. THANK god I didn't say or think anything about playing with women. They tell me they are playing the blue tees, for which I thought some strange things, but still just said OK and watched as they tee'd it up. She was about 5' 3", maybe 110 pounds, and her drive went close to 300 yards. Now guess who was embarrassed. On my best day, maybe 275 for me. Well my first drive went about 255, and I bogied the hole while she got a birdie. Her friend got par. Turns out she was Chris Tschedder (sp) an LPGA professional. Very nice lady and a great golfer who would have to give me lots of strokes. She out drove me by a lot on every hole. Shot a 70 from the blue tee's, while I got a great round for me at an 88.

So lesson learned. Play and let play and enjoy the game with who ever they put you with. And if you get with two other guys that have a problem, it's their problem, not yours.

Russ_Boston
03-17-2009, 08:59 AM
Army - I also know what you are saying but personally I don't care what gender the other players are. I have more of an issue with slow players than i do with quality of play or attitudes. In other words I'd rather play with someone who shoots 110 and keeps up than with someone who shoots 75 and is a jerk (and slow!) irregardless of gender.

Army Guy
03-17-2009, 09:05 AM
Russ, I am so with you. That is one thing I will say, neither my wife or I are the world's greatest golfers, BUT we play ready golf, and are always done playing ahead of schedule for both 9 or 18 holes.
Slow players make the game boring!

Army Guy

Safe Home Watch Mary Edwards
03-17-2009, 10:01 AM
Army Guy Hi, That sure brings back some of my days when we started playing golf.I felt everyone was watching how bad I hit the ball.But we love playing now with other people and making new friends,still not that good but love the game. Mary

Ooper
03-17-2009, 10:27 AM
:undecided:My wife and I don't mind playing with 2 other guys... the only thing that is frustrating is that many times, the men we are playing with, tend to forget we have a woman playing and drive down the fairway after teeing off while my wife stops at the women's tee. Now we have to wait until they realize she hasn't hit her shot yet!

The Great Fumar
03-17-2009, 12:32 PM
I hate playing with my wife and also with other women......I do it , but I hate it, It embarrasses me when they out drive me and blast out of the sand to beat me on a hole I should have one.....or they win a 2.00 Nassau and when I go to pay them they want to know if I have any clean one's ..I hate playing with FEMALE RINGERS who claim they just started playing the game and they have a coin changer around their waist....I don't believe them when they tell me they bought their callaway FTIQ at a garage sale or when they have a magic marker in their bag for autographs ....I hate it that my wife takes the game so seriously that we have to bet something on every game....

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go fix dinner......

fumar ..:icon_hungry:

Sally Jo
03-17-2009, 12:34 PM
Army Guy--- I'm a little intimidated too, when my husband and I are paired up with two guys. I must say, however, that the guys have always been super nice. Even though I'm not very good it has never been a problem. I do prefer playing with another couple though.

Russ_Boston
03-17-2009, 12:37 PM
Priceless as always Fumar!

Ooper - I'll admit it takes me a few holes to get used to stopping at the forward tee. Just bang one off my head and I'll get the point!

katezbox
03-17-2009, 12:38 PM
I hate playing with my wife and also with other women......I do it , but I hate it, It embarrasses me when they out drive me and blast out of the sand to beat me on a hole I should have one.....or they win a 2.00 Nassau and when I go to pay them they want to know if I have any clean one's ..I hate playing with FEMALE RINGERS who claim they just started playing the game and they have a coin changer around their waist....I don't believe them when they tell me they bought their callaway FTIQ at a garage sale or when they have a magic marker in their bag for autographs ....I hate it that my wife takes the game so seriously that we have to bet something on every game....

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go fix dinner......

fumar ..:icon_hungry:

Hey Fumar,

I bought my Callaways on the electroic equivalent of a garage sale (ebay). The only magic marker in my bag though, is for marking all those balls I lose!:shrug:

k

The Great Fumar
03-17-2009, 01:12 PM
E-BAY
Now thats a whole nother subject . My wife buys everything on e-bay and its getting on my nerves........Our last TV she bought on e-bay , It makes no deference that its black and white and a 9 inch round screen , It seems the huge Philco cabinet matches our furniture ......
which by the way she bought from the same place .....She also bought two barrel chairs for the living room and they are actually made from barrels....(the echo is terrible) , but I think the last straw was when my voice went up two octave's and when I checked my shorts , they had an E-BAY label and she washed them without looking at the instructions , " BEAT ON ROCK AT NEAREST STREAM "
This all started when we moved to the villages , OH TO BE HOME AGAIN...

FOUR FEET OF SNOW ISN'T REALLY THAT BAD !!!!

fumar ,,:D

Army Guy
03-18-2009, 06:50 AM
You all are a hoot! Heah, my wife beats me often too! She is really great off the tee and on the green, it is in-between that causes her grief. Me, I am good in the middle! Now if only we could combine our game, we would be on the pro-tour!
As I said we both started about 9 years ago, and go for yearly lessons in Myrtle Beach every Jan. We do it for the fun and beauty of the courses.

Army Guy

graciegirl
03-18-2009, 08:24 AM
Fumar you are a crazy man and I adore reading your posts.

ArmyGuy.

One of the things that I didn't want to happen and I had mentally tried to prepare myself for....just hasn't occured.

I have played golf for 36 years, and at one time, I played ....not great but decently,(not anymore) but I have always played quickly, mentally choosing my next club and had it drawn when it was my turn. I tried to watch other peoples ball so that we could all keep the pace, didn't play honors, but ready golf etc. etc.

I was expecting that it would be very slow here with a lot of new golfers and I have NEVER found it to be. I have had my putting line walked on a time or two but never had anyone talking during anyone's setup or swing. The pace is great and new beginning golfers are just as enjoyable as the other 99% who can beat me any day of the week.

Golf is a little different here, but just as much, or even MORE fun!!

Army Guy
03-18-2009, 09:33 AM
Gracie, Thanks! That is good to hear. See, I would have thought the same thing, slow play. Glad to hear that it moves at a good pace. I hate it when the wife & I are going good, and then...............have to stop! It throws your whole pace off.

Army Guy

zcaveman
03-18-2009, 11:25 AM
When I book me and my wife as a twosome, we hope for a male/female as the other couple. If we get a female/female, I will play from the forward tees to allow for talking and fun. If we get male/male, my wife is not happy but after we start playing the guys are always supportive and are enjoyable company. With the exception of one couple (male/female) who seemed to be upset at everything they did, we have never had an uncomfortable or uneasy time with any twosome we have been paired with on a golf course.

I say sign up as a twosome and take whatever twosome you get paired with.

Barefoot
03-18-2009, 02:36 PM
I hate playing with my wife and also with other women......I do it , but I hate it, It embarrasses me when they out drive me and blast out of the sand to beat me on a hole I should have one.....or they win a 2.00 Nassau and when I go to pay them they want to know if I have any clean one's ..I hate playing with FEMALE RINGERS who claim they just started playing the game and they have a coin changer around their waist....I don't believe them when they tell me they bought their callaway FTIQ at a garage sale or when they have a magic marker in their bag for autographs ....I hate it that my wife takes the game so seriously that we have to bet something on every game....

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go fix dinner......

fumar ..:icon_hungry:

I don't golf, but I always have to read Fumar's posts, no matter what the subject. :evil6:
Does anyone know the best place to take a golf lesson or three, prior to starting to play? I tried going to the driving range but just kept missing the ball. :yuck:

bestmickey
03-19-2009, 04:31 AM
Wow, after reading these posts, I'm going to be afraid to golf. While I will take a couple lessons before I start to play, being new to the game, I know I'm going to be quite slow. Sounds like no one will be very happy with me. What's a beginner to do?

graciegirl
03-19-2009, 06:17 AM
Wow, after reading these posts, I'm going to be afraid to golf. While I will take a couple lessons before I start to play, being new to the game, I know I'm going to be quite slow. Sounds like no one will be very happy with me. What's a beginner to do?

Don't be afraid Best Mickey!:o

They have great lessons at Arnold Palmer I am told but after the lessons what a beginner does to keep up is just what I said. Be ready. Be familiar with the rules. If you have taken over ten strokes on a hole pick up your ball and begin again on the next. Everyone of us has been a beginner. Go to the driving range a lot. I would love to play with you anytime Best Mickey. My husband is a good golfer and is very good and patient and understanding and very helpful if you ever want suggestions on your setup and swing or want to go with us to the driving range. Golf is................not quite as easy as it looks, but lots of fun when you get the hang of it.

Not to worry!

GG

punkpup
03-19-2009, 06:35 AM
I also enjoy playing with my wife, but if we link up with two other guys, I have never found that to be an issue. If they go out as a two some, they have to expect that and it should not be an issue.

Short story. I went to this golf course to play by myself in Virginia. (private club) Go to tee and there is two women they sent me out with. THANK god I didn't say or think anything about playing with women. They tell me they are playing the blue tees, for which I thought some strange things, but still just said OK and watched as they tee'd it up. She was about 5' 3", maybe 110 pounds, and her drive went close to 300 yards. Now guess who was embarrassed. On my best day, maybe 275 for me. Well my first drive went about 255, and I bogied the hole while she got a birdie. Her friend got par. Turns out she was Chris Tschedder (sp) an LPGA professional. Very nice lady and a great golfer who would have to give me lots of strokes. She out drove me by a lot on every hole. Shot a 70 from the blue tee's, while I got a great round for me at an 88.

So lesson learned. Play and let play and enjoy the game with who ever they put you with. And if you get with two other guys that have a problem, it's their problem, not yours.

WOW what a treat! She spells her name Kris Tschetter and you were very lucky to have had the opportunity to play with her, she is a delightful, gracious person. Here is a link to her LPGA Bio: http://lpga.com/player_results.aspx?id=562

Army Guy
03-19-2009, 06:47 AM
The best place that I know to learn, and they taught us everything, is the Steve Dresser Golf Academy in Myrtle Beach. He works out of True Blue Planatation actually in Pawleys Island. He is FANTASTIC, and very reasonable, ok CHEAP! But first class all the way. It may be a ride, but well worth it. His site www.dressergolf.com
Both the wife and I highly recommend him. His Dad lives in TV in Spanish Springs Square area.

Army Guy

TomW
03-19-2009, 10:13 AM
I second Army's endorsement of the Steve Dresser school. The whole staff is excellent and very helpful. You will normally play True Blue and Caledonia courses after morning classes. Both are challenging and beautiful courses. Don't plan on doing anything but playing or practicing golf however during the school days. You will be tired and perhaps a bit sore. Great experience and well worth the relatively low cost compared to other top 50 schools.

Army Guy
03-19-2009, 11:42 AM
Tom, great to hear from someone else who has used Steve. We started with him when he was back at Tradition. But the school is much better now at True Blue especailly with the state of the art training center he had built. Also I could not believe how cheap the prices are.
Yes, that is for sure about being tired and sore! I think we only sat for 15 minutes combined for all 3 days! We where out hitting and putting. And the best part is the classes are small so they are always helping you.

Army Guy

TomW
03-19-2009, 01:32 PM
Army,
We really enjoyed it. We had 10 in our class and there were four instructors so we all got a lot of attention. I was going to use one of Steve's jokes about doing wind sprints up and down the driving range but thought someone might think I was serious. I suppose we should mention how thorough they are in checking out your clubs and offering modifications that are needed. They will make a club for you for a good price but they did modifications to our clubs without charge.

uujudy
03-19-2009, 10:25 PM
Don't be afraid Best Mickey!:o

If you have taken over ten strokes on a hole pick up your ball and begin again on the next. . . .
GG


GG, TEN strokes? Mr. Judy told me to pick up after 2 times par. Maybe he's just trying to speed me up? Maybe it would be midnight if I picked up after 10 strokes on every hole? BTW, I find that if I just sit in the golf cart and write down "6" for each hole the game goes a lot faster. :laugh:

graciegirl
03-20-2009, 01:23 AM
Yesterday My husband and I played golf with two men and a tag along boy of about nine. They were assigned to our tee time but asked if they could play back of us and were told no, that there were definite tee times. The boy went up on the tee with the men and was playing with a club and a ball in a hockey like manner, moving around behind the person swinging, not close, but distracting. On the green he joined the group doing the same thing, moving about and jumping during the putting. The man who was the host was a four year house owner snowbird and played frequently.

They paid three dollars for the boy to be an observer. The child seemed disappointed he couldn't play.

Duke
03-20-2009, 06:31 AM
Army Guy, never had a problem playing with two guys. I have been golfing TV for 7 years so maybe the problem is YOU. Check for golf courses outside TV you might find what you are looking for.
Duke

Russ_Boston
03-20-2009, 07:34 AM
Yesterday My husband and I played golf with two men and a tag along boy of about nine. They were assigned to our tee time but asked if they could play back of us and were told no, that there were definite tee times. The boy went up on the tee with the men and was playing with a club and a ball in a hockey like manner, moving around behind the person swinging, not close, but distracting. On the green he joined the group doing the same thing, moving about and jumping during the putting. The man who was the host was a four year house owner snowbird and played frequently.

They paid three dollars for the boy to be an observer. The child seemed disappointed he couldn't play.

That's just wrong regardless of the circumstances.

katezbox
03-20-2009, 09:38 AM
Army Guy, never had a problem playing with two guys. I have been golfing TV for 7 years so maybe the problem is YOU. Check for golf courses outside TV you might find what you are looking for.
Duke

Just because a man loves to golf with the woman he loves doesn't mean he has a problem. There are times I prefer to play with just my husband - usually early in the season, before I really get my game going. (A situation soon to go away by moving to TV). Just because you aren't made uncomfortable, doesn't mean someone who does has "a problem."

I'm not sure you meant to make your message sound harsh - but putting the word "you" in all caps in the equivalent of getting in someone's face. Given Army's choice of career, I'm sure he can handle it - but this forum is meant to be helpful - not deprecating.

Kate

PS - I don't think I've said it before - but Army guy, I too thank you for your service.

graciegirl
03-20-2009, 11:21 AM
Just because a man loves to golf with the woman he loves doesn't mean he has a problem. There are times I prefer to play with just my husband - usually early in the season, before I really get my game going. (A situation soon to go away by moving to TV). Just because you aren't made uncomfortable, doesn't mean someone who does has "a problem."

I'm not sure you meant to make your message sound harsh - but putting the word "you" in all caps in the equivalent of getting in someone's face. Given Army's choice of career, I'm sure he can handle it - but this forum is meant to be helpful - not deprecating.

Kate

PS - I don't think I've said it before - but Army guy, I too thank you for your service.


Well said Kate.

Thank you Army Guy...

Maybe a troll is here for a bit? Most folks are friendly here.

Indy-Guy
03-20-2009, 01:03 PM
Army Guy, never had a problem playing with two guys. I have been golfing TV for 7 years so maybe the problem is YOU. Check for golf courses outside TV you might find what you are looking for.
Duke

Duke so you have been playing golf for all of 7 years. Perhaps after playing a little longer you will learn that golf is a gentlemans game. My guess is that Army Guy could take you to school on the course since it is a gentlemans game.

uujudy
03-20-2009, 09:14 PM
Yesterday My husband and I played golf with two men and a tag along boy of about nine. They were assigned to our tee time but asked if they could play back of us and were told no, that there were definite tee times. The boy went up on the tee with the men and was playing with a club and a ball in a hockey like manner, moving around behind the person swinging, not close, but distracting. On the green he joined the group doing the same thing, moving about and jumping during the putting. The man who was the host was a four year house owner snowbird and played frequently.

They paid three dollars for the boy to be an observer. The child seemed disappointed he couldn't play.

Oh the poor homeowner. Probably houseguests. Probably in laws. What's a Villager to do? :shrug: GG, you could walk away when the game was over, but he was stuck with them.

Army Guy
03-23-2009, 07:24 AM
First, thank-you all for your thanks. It is just what I do, as it is all I have ever wanted to do. I believe totally in this country, what it stands for and those who created it and have died to keep the dream alive, and especially the freedom we have here. Having lived and served pretty much all over the world, the USA is definitely the best place to live hands down. As I said when I was quizzed by an Army Board to get my scholarship, they asked why do you want to be in the Army, and my answer then as it is now, is, "It is my duty to serve and possibly die for this great nation to secure the freedom we have now and will continue to have forever!"

Duke, it is not "a problem" it is just that unless my wife really knows someome she is uncomfortable playing around them cause she feels like they are watching her, and she gets afraid to mess up, etc. Just typical feelings that we all have felt time to time. She just wants to do good and not mess up in front of strangers. When we play with people we know, she is fine.

Army Guy