Keep Right Except to Pass -- It's the Law!

[Mrs. Robinson]

Most Villagers have a Florida driver's license, and if not, have a license from their home state, probably.

As with most other states, the law in Florida is to drive in the right lane (on a 2-lane or more road), unless you are passing.

Can someone please tell me what it is with so many drivers here that insist on driving the left (passing) lane?
Other than it is against the law, that is so wrong for so many reasons.

I grant you that in a highly commercial area, such as on 441 say, it is difficult to do because of all the turning into a shopping area.
But in other areas if you flash your lights or honk your horn, these people in the left lane actually get annoyed!

Perhaps if the police started giving tickets to those who think they own the road, they will drive the right (and correct!) lane.

[GaryW]

One thing I know from all my life living around here,, no one and I mean no one will ever abide by that thought or law. You need a Kevlar vest and helmet just to drive around here on most days. Keeping people out of left lane is like trying to explain to people how to navigate a round a bout. Good luck on that one.
:bigbow:

[golfing eagles]

Most Villagers have a Florida driver's license, and if not, have a license from their home state, probably.

As with most other states, the law in Florida is to drive in the right lane (on a 2-lane or more road), unless you are passing.

Can someone please tell me what it is with so many drivers here that insist on driving the left (passing) lane?
Other than it is against the law, that is so wrong for so many reasons.

I grant you that in a highly commercial area, such as on 441 say, it is difficult to do because of all the turning into a shopping area.
But in other areas if you flash your lights or honk your horn, these people in the left lane actually get annoyed!

Perhaps if the police started giving tickets to those who think they own the road, they will drive the right (and correct!) lane.


:agree::agree::agree: 100%

There is nothing more frustrating than some bozo on I-95 just obliviously driving 55 in a 70 zone in the left lane, worse yet driving side by side with another bozo going 55 in the right lane. But the worst are those who INTENTIONALLY drive way under the speed limit in the left lane because they view themselves as the final authority on what THEY believe the speed limit SHOULD be. Ticket all of them!!!!!

Now, if you want to drive 25 on a residential street posted at 30, fine. But high speed expressways are exactly that---high speed. If you can't handle that, stay on US 301. Better yet, walk---you'll get there quicker:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[kansasr]

Good luck with this one...there are two types of drivers in the Villages; ones who are oblivious to what's going on around them and the ones they drive crazy!

[golfing eagles]

Good luck with this one...there are two types of drivers in the Villages; ones who are oblivious to what's going on around them and the ones they drive crazy!

Hence, ticket them. They'll wake up and the rest of us will be a little less crazy.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Most Villagers have a Florida driver's license, and if not, have a license from their home state, probably.

As with most other states, the law in Florida is to drive in the right lane (on a 2-lane or more road), unless you are passing.

Can someone please tell me what it is with so many drivers here that insist on driving the left (passing) lane?
Other than it is against the law, that is so wrong for so many reasons.

I grant you that in a highly commercial area, such as on 441 say, it is difficult to do because of all the turning into a shopping area.
But in other areas if you flash your lights or honk your horn, these people in the left lane actually get annoyed!

Perhaps if the police started giving tickets to those who think they own the road, they will drive the right (and correct!) lane.

Actually, I don't think that that is THE LAW. I don't think that you can be ticketed for driving in the left lane unless you are impeding traffic behind you. Also, I believe that Florida, like most other states allows passing on the right on a two lane road.

But I agree, if you are going to drive the speed limit or lower, you should drive in the right hand lane. It drives me crazy when I have to drive down 441 and there is some Bozo in the left hand lane going under the speed limit. In fact, a law was recently passed in Florida that states if you are in the left hand lane and another vehicle approaches from behind, you MUST move over to let that vehicle pass. It does not matter if you are going 40 or 140, if the driver behind you wants to go faster, you must get out of the way and let him.

If you are in the right hand lane and the car ahead of you is going slower than you, pass on the left. If you are in the left hand lane and no one is in front of you and someone is behind you get the **** out of the way.

But you are driving in the left hand lane and no one is behind you, I don't believe that there is any violation. Or if you are in the left hand lane and the car in front of you is holding you up and you in turn are holding the car behind you up, I don't believe that there is any obligation to move to the left. In that situation, you may, if it is safe to do so, pass the slower moving vehicle on the right.

[Daddymac]

New law targets slower Florida drivers - wptv.com (http://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/west-palm-beach/new-law-targets-slower-florida-drivers)

[golfing eagles]

Actually, I don't think that that is THE LAW. I don't think that you can be ticketed for driving in the left lane unless you are impeding traffic behind you. Also, I believe that Florida, like most other states allows passing on the right on a two lane road.

But I agree, if you are going to drive the speed limit or lower, you should drive in the right hand lane. It drives me crazy when I have to drive down 441 and there is some Bozo in the left hand lane going under the speed limit. In fact, a law was recently passed in Florida that states if you are in the left hand lane and another vehicle approaches from behind, you MUST move over to let that vehicle pass. It does not matter if you are going 40 or 140, if the driver behind you wants to go faster, you must get out of the way and let him.

If you are in the right hand lane and the car ahead of you is going slower than you, pass on the left. If you are in the left hand lane and no one is in front of you and someone is behind you get the **** out of the way.

But you are driving in the left hand lane and no one is behind you, I don't believe that there is any violation. Or if you are in the left hand lane and the car in front of you is holding you up and you in turn are holding the car behind you up, I don't believe that there is any obligation to move to the left. In that situation, you may, if it is safe to do so, pass the slower moving vehicle on the right.

Of course, that is kind of like the proverbial tree in the forest that falls with no one around---does it make a sound? If there is no one behind that driver, who could be unhappy?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Of course, that is kind of like the proverbial tree in the forest that falls with no one around---does it make a sound? If there is no one behind that driver, who could be unhappy?

The OP suggested that driving the the left hand lane except to pass is a violation of the law. I don't believe that it is unless you are impeding traffic.

[John_W]

On 466A you could give out 10,000 tickets a day. 9 out of 10 drivers coming off of Buena Vista heading toward Colony Plaza must immediately think, I'm turning left in 4 miles, I better get in the left lane now. Same can be said for those turning west headed toward Pinellas Plaza, I've got a left turn coming up, I better get over now, nevermind I'm only doing 40, that's a good safe speed for me. The drivers behind me should realize, I'm saving their lives going this slow.

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[John_W]

The OP suggested that driving the the left hand lane except to pass is a violation of the law. I don't believe that it is unless you are impeding traffic.

Hey Doc, you must of missed post #7. It's not as strong a law as I would of liked it, but as of July 1st if driving in the left lane at 10mph slower than the speed limit is a fine of $60. I remember it was news on most of the stations when it passed.

New law targets slower Florida drivers - wptv.com (http://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/west-palm-beach/new-law-targets-slower-florida-drivers)

[ColdNoMore]

As has been demonstrated time and time again, in a plethora of threads on the subject of driving in the left lane, there are those who believe that if they're doing the speed limit...they shouldn't have to move over.

Never mind that the law/signs says 'SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT.'

And yes, that means you who is doing the speed limit (or more) in the left lane...but have cars stacked up behind you.

While there are definitely those who are oblivious to the traffic backing up behind them (often because they're on their phone or texting), I personally believe there are a large number that know exactly what they're doing and get a thrill out of 'controlling' the speed by pacing the vehicle in the right lane...and thereby keeping anyone from passing them.

This type of passive-aggressive behavior, is a big cause of the road rage from the real nutcases out there.

So for you that think it's funny to have vehicles stack up behind you by doing the speed limit in the left lane, think about that one person who is on the edge to start with...and is carrying a firearm.

Is playing cop...really worth the potential incident?

[skip0358]

I ride the left lane usually 5+ over . If someone comes up behind me I'll be more then happy to go to the right and get back once they pass me. Hopefully they get the ticket before me. I do agree it passes me off to when there' a slow driver in the left lane.

[Polar Bear]

I believe most offenders think that if they are going the speed limit or higher it is legal to stay in the left lane when faster traffic approaches. That is simply not the case.

Speed is irrelevant for this particular law...if you do not move to right as faster traffic approaches, you are breaking the law regardless of your speed or the speed of the approaching vehicle.

[2BNTV]

One of my biggest pet peeves!

I have been fighting this one in my head for many years. It never changes as the police don't give out tickets to those in the left lane but give tickets to those who pass on the right. as it it obvious some people think they own the road.

On parkways back in CT, some people ride the left lane as they don't want to deal with those coming onto the parkway.

I get to deal with this again next week. AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

[JoMar]

We had a similiar law in PA and a similar result.....no enforcement. Government is great at passing common sense laws with no teeth. Seat belts, texting, left lane, turnsignals, illegal lane changes....the number of stops made is equal to doing that ocean thing. Not enough cops, not enough court time, too many lawyers and entitled with money. I read once that the reason people drive the left lane is they can see better on that side and don't have great judgement when aligning with the right lane. Whatever the reason, the left lane riders will continue. Oh yeah, often see the cops doing the same thing :)

[poromo]

What bothers me is when I am in the left lane doing 80mph in a 70 mph zone and some bozo is behind me flashing his lights and honking his horn!

[ColdNoMore]

What bothers me is when I am in the left lane doing 80mph in a 70 mph zone and some bozo is behind me flashing his lights and honking his horn!

That simply means that you are the 'slower' traffic...and by law need to get over in the right lane.

[golfing eagles]

What bothers me is when I am in the left lane doing 80mph in a 70 mph zone and some bozo is behind me flashing his lights and honking his horn!

All that means is that you've appointed yourself to set the left lane speed at 80, no different than the guy who appointed himself to set it at 55. It's basically the same thing at different speeds, and BOTH are required to get to the right. (Sorry). At least you'll have the satisfaction of passing the 80+ driver back when he is pulled over by LEO:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Polar Bear]

What bothers me is when I am in the left lane doing 80mph in a 70 mph zone and some bozo is behind me flashing his lights and honking his horn!
That bozo MAY be breaking the law. You DEFINITELY are.

[golfing eagles]

That bozo MAY be breaking the law. You DEFINITELY are.

If that bozo is coming up from behind and pacing a car going 80, he DEFINITELY is as well

Besides, who would you REALLY be more afraid of in the left lane of an interstate:

a) a professional NASCAR driver going 110, or

b) a little old lady who can't see over the steering wheel going 50?????

[Topspinmo]

not this BS topic again, NOBODY going to keep right on any highway if Florida. Just too much traffic, especially on Blvds, and parkways, and non interstate/toll roads. Whine all you want and spout ITS THE LAW! still not going to happen. SO as it been said many times WHATS YOUR HURRY YOUR RETIRED and it will help your blood pressure not to get all worked up about Nothing that's going to change. Besides LEO never catch but .2% the hiatal speeder's anyway, you know the ones that want to go 20 MPH over the speed limit and you say under your breath "where COP when you NEED one":ohdear:

[bbbbbb]

Most Villagers have a Florida driver's license, and if not, have a license from their home state, probably.

As with most other states, the law in Florida is to drive in the right lane (on a 2-lane or more road), unless you are passing.

Can someone please tell me what it is with so many drivers here that insist on driving the left (passing) lane?
Other than it is against the law, that is so wrong for so many reasons.

I grant you that in a highly commercial area, such as on 441 say, it is difficult to do because of all the turning into a shopping area.
But in other areas if you flash your lights or honk your horn, these people in the left lane actually get annoyed!

Perhaps if the police started giving tickets to those who think they own the road, they will drive the right (and correct!) lane.
From bbbbbb responding.
Having been here a year, we almost never drive the car, it is golf cart or bicycle. Well, a golf cart community? The problems that are mentioned here are quite common, they will probably continue to be a nuisance, and if you look around, you may find what is probably the root cause of traffic frustrations and near accidents and the items mentioned here. It is solvable but we will probably not solve it with the common operating standards that we love so dearly.
Enough of that.
bbbbbb :spoken:

[Polar Bear]

If that bozo is coming up from behind and pacing a car going 80, he DEFINITELY is as well...
Just leaving open the possibility of an emergency.

[Polar Bear]

not this BS topic again, NOBODY going to keep right on any highway if Florida. Just too much traffic, especially on Blvds, and parkways, and non interstate/toll roads. Whine all you want...
Whine all you want...but traffic-filled roads is not the situation being discussed.

[patfla06]

I have to disagree with you.

Local roads whether they are 2 or 3 lanes, handle all of the traffic on the road.
The ONLY time you use the left lane for passing
is on a highway I-75, I-95, and the Florida Tpk.
Can you imagine everyone driving in the right lane
around The Villages?

By the way, what is your hurry?

[kcrazorbackfan]

Most Villagers have a Florida driver's license, and if not, have a license from their home state, probably.

As with most other states, the law in Florida is to drive in the right lane (on a 2-lane or more road), unless you are passing.

Can someone please tell me what it is with so many drivers here that insist on driving the left (passing) lane?
Other than it is against the law, that is so wrong for so many reasons.

I grant you that in a highly commercial area, such as on 441 say, it is difficult to do because of all the turning into a shopping area.
But in other areas if you flash your lights or honk your horn, these people in the left lane actually get annoyed!

Perhaps if the police started giving tickets to those who think they own the road, they will drive the right (and correct!) lane.

That would crash the servers if the Police here write e tickets. If they still use the old fashioned ticket books (25 tickets to a books) they would need a case of books a day. :laugh:

[capecoralbill]

I cant seem to find the actual law. my questions are, does the law state 'passing lane', fast lane, or left lane. What if an HOV lane is adjacent? Bill

[CFrance]

On 466A you could give out 10,000 tickets a day. 9 out of 10 drivers coming off of Buena Vista heading toward Colony Plaza must immediately think, I'm turning left in 4 miles, I better get in the left lane now. Same can be said for those turning west headed toward Pinellas Plaza, I've got a left turn coming up, I better get over now, nevermind I'm only doing 40, that's a good safe speed for me. The drivers behind me should realize, I'm saving their lives going this slow.

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John W, I must protest and respond with...

[blueash]

I cant seem to find the actual law. my questions are, does the law state 'passing lane', fast lane, or left lane. What if an HOV lane is adjacent? Bill.

Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
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Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.081.html)

(2) Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.

[Mrs. Robinson]

I have to disagree with you.

Local roads whether they are 2 or 3 lanes, handle all of the traffic on the road.
The ONLY time you use the left lane for passing
is on a highway I-75, I-95, and the Florida Tpk.
Can you imagine everyone driving in the right lane
around The Villages?

By the way, what is your hurry?


You may disagree, but you are dead wrong!
I guess you're one of those left-hand lane drivers??? :ohdear:

Check out BlueAsh's #30 post regarding the law.

[golfing eagles]

not this BS topic again, NOBODY going to keep right on any highway if Florida. Just too much traffic, especially on Blvds, and parkways, and non interstate/toll roads. Whine all you want and spout ITS THE LAW! still not going to happen. SO as it been said many times WHATS YOUR HURRY YOUR RETIRED and it will help your blood pressure not to get all worked up about Nothing that's going to change. Besides LEO never catch but .2% the hiatal speeder's anyway, you know the ones that want to go 20 MPH over the speed limit and you say under your breath "where COP when you NEED one":ohdear:


You may be right when it comes to local roads where there are frequent left turns, weak drivers tend to migrate to the left lane early out of fear of not being able to get over later. But on an interstate, almost all entry ramps are from the right, which means these same weak drivers have to intentionally move left to get in the left lane. They should know from experience that they are the equivalent of road litter and should stay right from the beginning. How many times have you seen a driver enter a 3 lane interstate and IMMEDIATELY cut across 2 lanes to get in the left lane, where they la-de-da along below the speed limit? Ridiculous!!!

[mickey100]

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Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
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Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.081.html)

(2) Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.

Thank you. It is clearly the law to stay to the right. Anyone who drives in the left lane when they are not passing other vehicles, or if they are not preparing to turn left, is breaking the law. And that applies to Route 466 as well as the interstate. In reality, however, the locals seem to make no effort to enforce the law, and you have the self entitled people that think it is their right to slow everyone else down and have the selfish attitude "We're retired, whats the hurry. " I don't see a solution other than trying to travel at times when there are not a lot of people on the road.

[Topspinmo]

Thank you. It is clearly the law to stay to the right. Anyone who drives in the left lane when they are not passing other vehicles, or if they are not preparing to turn left, is breaking the law. And that applies to Route 466 as well as the interstate. In reality, however, the locals seem to make no effort to enforce the law, and you have the self entitled people that think it is their right to slow everyone else down and have the selfish attitude "We're retired, whats the hurry. " I don't see a solution other than trying to travel at times when there are not a lot of people on the road.


Did you not read para (3) the big IF word

[Topspinmo]

You may disagree, but you are dead wrong!
I guess you're one of those left-hand lane drivers??? :ohdear:

Check out BlueAsh's #30 post regarding the law.
Please read to Para. (3) and don't pass OVER the big IF in that paragraph.

[Topspinmo]

You may be right when it comes to local roads where there are frequent left turns, weak drivers tend to migrate to the left lane early out of fear of not being able to get over later. But on an interstate, almost all entry ramps are from the right, which means these same weak drivers have to intentionally move left to get in the left lane. They should know from experience that they are the equivalent of road litter and should stay right from the beginning. How many times have you seen a driver enter a 3 lane interstate and IMMEDIATELY cut across 2 lanes to get in the left lane, where they la-de-da along below the speed limit? Ridiculous!!!

IMO most merging drivers don't even look to merge they just move over like they got the right-a-way.:cus: I can't control other drivers, all I can do is stay out of there way, and Hopefully not get hit in the process

[ColdNoMore]

As I stated earlier and is being shown in this thread, there will always be those that think the law doesn't apply to them, or even worse...think they are entitled to play traffic cop. :ohdear:

[Allegiance]

As I stated earlier and is being shown in this thread, there will always be those that think the law doesn't apply to them, or even worse...think they are entitled to play traffic cop. :ohdear:
I agree, I hate people that think the law does not apply to them. Some might call them hateful and stupid.

Three cheers for Law and Order!

[Bay Kid]

On 466A you could give out 10,000 tickets a day. 9 out of 10 drivers coming off of Buena Vista heading toward Colony Plaza must immediately think, I'm turning left in 4 miles, I better get in the left lane now. Same can be said for those turning west headed toward Pinellas Plaza, I've got a left turn coming up, I better get over now, nevermind I'm only doing 40, that's a good safe speed for me. The drivers behind me should realize, I'm saving their lives going this slow.

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Sooner or later they will be able to pass a car???

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Thank you. It is clearly the law to stay to the right. Anyone who drives in the left lane when they are not passing other vehicles, or if they are not preparing to turn left, is breaking the law. And that applies to Route 466 as well as the interstate. In reality, however, the locals seem to make no effort to enforce the law, and you have the self entitled people that think it is their right to slow everyone else down and have the selfish attitude "We're retired, whats the hurry. " I don't see a solution other than trying to travel at times when there are not a lot of people on the road.

Did you read your own post?

Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.


Did you not see this part? Proceeding at "LESS THAN THE NORMAL SPEED". You are only required to stay in the right hand lane of you are not doing the speed limit or not keeping up with the flow of traffic.

[NoMoSno]

If everyone stayed in the right lane on 441, traffic would be bumper to bumper, from Ocala through Leesburg.
I'd be happy if everyone just used their turn signals and stayed off the cell phones...but that won't happen....

[outlaw]

It's kinda funny how so many admit to breaking the law while admonishing people for breaking the law.

[Polar Bear]

It's kinda funny how so many admit to breaking the law while admonishing people for breaking the law.

I remember one poster admitting to driving 80mph...don't really see the "so many" referred to.

[msgip]

Most Villagers have a Florida driver's license, and if not, have a license from their home state, probably.

As with most other states, the law in Florida is to drive in the right lane (on a 2-lane or more road), unless you are passing.

Can someone please tell me what it is with so many drivers here that insist on driving the left (passing) lane?
Other than it is against the law, that is so wrong for so many reasons.

I grant you that in a highly commercial area, such as on 441 say, it is difficult to do because of all the turning into a shopping area.
But in other areas if you flash your lights or honk your horn, these people in the left lane actually get annoyed!

Perhaps if the police started giving tickets to those who think they own the road, they will drive the right (and correct!) lane.

I agree with you 100%, if these people forgot how to drive, park it.

[ldj1938]

So what is a soaring eagle member?

[Topspinmo]

I agree with you 100%, if these people forgot how to drive, park it.

Not against the law to drive in the left lane, you just can't block traffic in the left lane. SO what is against the law is to impede traffic in the left lane even though they are breaking the law by speeding. It's the LEO job to catch law breakers. Not Left lane slow pokes.

[LitespeedRider]

So what is a soaring eagle member?

Someone with FAR too much time on their hands:loco:

[galluccb]

My make a wish is to be Law Enforcement authorized to just ticket those beholden to the left lane especially on highway's. I'd do it for free!

[MDLNB]

New law targets slower Florida drivers - wptv.com (http://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/west-palm-beach/new-law-targets-slower-florida-drivers)

The law states that anyone driving ten miles per hour or slower than the posted speed limit can be ticketed. That's pretty slow and it is doubtful if anyone other than a drunk is driving that slow in the fast lane. If you are driving the posted speed limit or even five MPH slower, they can't ticket you.

Be careful what you wish for. I wish that folks would learn what stop signs mean.

[LitespeedRider]

That's pretty slow and it is doubtful if anyone other than a drunk is driving that slow in the fast lane. .


Have you driven in The Villages?:wave:

[bbbbbb]

[QUOTE=GaryW;1312108]One thing I know from all my life living around here,, no one and I mean no one will ever abide by that thought or law. You need a Kevlar vest and helmet just to drive around here on most days. Keeping people out of left lane is like trying to explain to people how to navigate a round a bout. Good luck on that one.

bbbbbb Comment

The driving events here are really amazing. And, it seems that no one, absolutely no one can or wants to do anything about any of it. Yes, lane pokes, yes, crazy zig zaggers, yes people behind the wheel who look like the deer in the headlights, and those staggering out of Happy Hours, multiple happy hours are us.

bbbbbb :loco:

[golfing eagles]

The law states that anyone driving ten miles per hour or slower than the posted speed limit can be ticketed. That's pretty slow and it is doubtful if anyone other than a drunk is driving that slow in the fast lane. If you are driving the posted speed limit or even five MPH slower, they can't ticket you.

Be careful what you wish for. I wish that folks would learn what stop signs mean.

Have you driven, period?? And yes, they CAN ticket you if you are holding up traffic

BTW, in TV, stop sign means you make an optional slight hesitation before cutting off the person with the right of way:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[LitespeedRider]

BTW, in TV, stop sign means you make an optional slight hesitation before cutting off the person with the right of way:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


I thought the rule was that any stop sign with a white outline is optional???

[600th Photo Sq]

I have driven all over the world and have very strong opinions on who I believe are the Worst Drivers. Now this excludes 3rd world countries.

My vote for drivers who are really terrible..drive constantly in the left lane and are truly Clueless Drivers .... " CONNECTICUT " ...and Rubber Neckers.. Some of the best drivers in America ? .." MASSACHSETTS "...I'm originally from New York...and I rank NY...a B+

[600th Photo Sq]

On 466A you could give out 10,000 tickets a day. 9 out of 10 drivers coming off of Buena Vista heading toward Colony Plaza must immediately think, I'm turning left in 4 miles, I better get in the left lane now. Same can be said for those turning west headed toward Pinellas Plaza, I've got a left turn coming up, I better get over now, nevermind I'm only doing 40, that's a good safe speed for me. The drivers behind me should realize, I'm saving their lives going this slow.

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Excellent post " * * * * " and a very good observation. Most drivers here would fail miserably a British Driving Exam. :plane:

[LitespeedRider]

You know what the woman in that picture is wondering?


Where the beef is.....

[John_W]

I have driven all over the world and have very strong opinions on who I believe are the Worst Drivers. Now this excludes 3rd world countries.

My vote for drivers who are really terrible..drive constantly in the left lane and are truly Clueless Drivers .... " CONNECTICUT " ...and Rubber Neckers.. Some of the best drivers in America ? .." MASSACHSETTS "...I'm originally from New York...and I rank NY...a B+

I spent 13 months in South Korea 46 years ago and the drivers wore black uniforms with white gloves and a little black police type hat with an official looking yellow armband. The inside of the cabs they had covers over all the seats with frilly decore around the window. Most of the tires would shimmy to a certain extent, and the dents in the hub caps gave off a neat effect. The roads in the DMZ area contained a pot hole every 10 feet or so. Roads were barely two lanes wide with old men with large stacks of stuff on their back were walking down the sides. Usually the cab drivers cruised along about 50 mph, unless people were present and then they slowed to 30 mph. For 300 won, about $1 US dollar, you could hire Kim, Lee or Park to drive you about 5 miles to a club. By the time you arrived, you were ready for a drink.

The other place I've noticed drivers are different, but in a good way, is in Atlanta when I lived there for a year in 1988. The town is circled and criss-crossed with interstates and everyone drives like it's the Charlotte Motor Speedway. If you aren't doing 80, don't get in the left lane or the lane next to that one. Most of the interstates are 4 to 6 lanes wide. When driving through downtown on I-85 and you're looking for landmarks, look quickly, you'll only have about 3 second to see, recognize and say, that's where the Braves play.

[600th Photo Sq]

I spent 13 months in South Korea 46 years ago and the drivers wore black uniforms with white gloves and a little black police type hat with an official looking yellow armband. The inside of the cabs they had covers over all the seats with frilly decore around the window. Most of the tires would shimmy to a certain extent, and the dents in the hub caps gave off a neat effect. The roads in the DMZ area contained a pot hole every 10 feet or so. Roads were barely two lanes wide with old men with large stacks of stuff on their back were walking down the sides. Usually the cab drivers cruised along about 50 mph, unless people were present and then they slowed to 30 mph. For 300 won, about $1 US dollar, you could hire Kim, Lee or Park to drive you about 5 miles to a club. By the time you arrived, you were ready for a drink.

The other place I've noticed drivers are different, but in a good way, is in Atlanta when I lived there for a year in 1988. The town is circled and criss-crossed with interstates and everyone drives like it's the Charlotte Motor Speedway. If you aren't doing 80, don't get in the left lane or the lane next to that one. Most of the interstates are 4 to 6 lanes wide. When driving through downtown on I-85 and you're looking for landmarks, look quickly, you'll only have about 3 second to see, recognize and say, that's where the Braves play.

Obviously John you know what your talking about..some of the best drivers ... England and Germany..where you actually have to pass a very tough "Very" tough Exam. Here in USA the drivers test is a Joke. Here in the Villages the Roundabouts are an excellent example of clueless drivers. :plane:

[Topspinmo]

Obviously John you know what your talking about..some of the best drivers ... England and Germany..where you actually have to pass a very tough "Very" tough Exam. Here in USA the drivers test is a Joke. Here in the Villages the Roundabouts are an excellent example of clueless drivers. :plane:

I was stationed in England in the early 90's didn't find there Exam's any tougher than USAs. Just different terminology. Like "Zebra crossing". My impression was they are crazy. Motorcycles passing between two cars going the opposite direction at 65 plus on narrow two lane black top. Driving 70 plus in the fog so dense you can see 3 white lines ahead of you.

I felt I was stuck back in the 60s in the USA, oldie songs on the radio, some new cars still had manual chokes, narrow two lane black top roads, some even one lane from villages to villages in spots. Can't comment on Germany. will agree about roundabouts here in the villages, most stop when no traffic coming when all they have to do is yield and go. But, at stop signs the coast through or pull through the signs or white lines across the road when you have the right away you don't know if they are stopping or not, Then, they give you the go to hell look. Before you are in line you have to stop at the stop sign......and preferable BEHIND IT not car length after it!

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I was stationed in England in the early 90's didn't find there Exam's any tougher than USAs. Just different terminology. Like "Zebra crossing". My impression was they are crazy. Motorcycles passing between two cars going the opposite direction at 65 plus on narrow two lane black top. Driving 70 plus in the fog so dense you can see 3 white lines ahead of you.

I felt I was stuck back in the 60s in the USA, oldie songs on the radio, some new cars still had manual chokes, narrow two lane black top roads, some even one lane from villages to villages in spots. Can't comment on Germany. will agree about roundabouts here in the villages, most stop when no traffic coming when all they have to do is yield and go. But, at stop signs the coast through or pull through the signs or white lines across the road when you have the right away you don't know if they are stopping or not, Then, they give you the go to hell look. Before you are in line you have to stop at the stop sign......and preferable BEHIND IT not car length after it!

OK " Topspin Mo " You may be aware that dependents routinely would take a quick trip to France only ot get there Passport stamped to avoid taking the british Driving exam. That loophole has long been closed. You were stationed there in the 90s fine but Mo that was many,many years ago. A person could fail for many reasons one is parallel parking, stopping in a hill and if you broke backed up just a hair on a putting the car in gear ..Fail. Come on the test in England is a Real Test, :plane: