Doug Schoen withdraws support for Hillary

[villagerjack]

Supported the Clinton since 1990s and has been a democratic Polster even longer than that he feels that there will be a constitutional crisis if Hillary Clinton is of elected with all of this information hanging over her head. Worse than during President Nixons term. THIS IS BIG NEWS!!

[ColdNoMore]

Link?

[jimbo2012]

Wow!!!

More may follow, we all assume they spotted enough content in state.gov & clinton.com email headers to to push Comey to act.


He was strong supporter since 1994, Fox news panelist.

Utube has the clip live on Fox

[tomwed]

Douglas Schoen is an American political analyst, pollster, author, and commentator. He is a political analyst for Fox News and a columnist for Newsmax. He partnered with political strategist Mark Penn and Michael Berland in the firm of Penn, Schoen & Berland.

I had to look this guy up. He is someone to take seriously. I did know who Scott Baio was. He is someone to take seriously too.

[Rockyrd]

Douglas Schoen is an American political analyst, pollster, author, and commentator. He is a political analyst for Fox News and a columnist for Newsmax. He partnered with political strategist Mark Penn and Michael Berland in the firm of Penn, Schoen & Berland.

I had to look this guy up. He is someone to take seriously. I did know who Scott Baio was. He is someone to take seriously too.

This is big news and the LEGION of people who have disowned Trump is not. Wow...some perspective

[tomwed]

This is big news and the LEGION of people who have disowned Trump is not.Is not what?

[villagerjack]

Don't forget there are also 4 separate FBIInvestigations into the Clinton Foundation. Tens of millions funnelled from CGI to Teneo to Bill Clinton.

[Buffalo Jim]

Link?


Sure thing I will do this for you :

it`s called " GOOGLE " . :yuck:

[jimbo2012]

Don't forget there are also 4 separate FBIInvestigations into the Clinton Foundation. Tens of millions funnelled from CGI to Teneo to Bill Clinton.

Not Separate,

Assistant Director and CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes appeared on-air Saturday night to discuss the circumstances surrounding the letter FBI Director James Comey sent to lawmakers on Friday. Citing his sources at the FBI, Fuentes explained that there was a lot of context surrounding the Comey letter that was not being discussed by the media. Specifically, Fuentes said the newly discovered emails are also believed to be related to an ongoing FBI investigation of the Clinton Foundation.

[ColdNoMore]

Sure thing I will do this for you :

it`s called " GOOGLE " . :yuck:

Videos just surfaced showing Trump having sex with a 12 year old boy.

Google it.

[MDLNB]

Videos just surfaced showing Trump having sex with a 12 year old boy.

Google it.

Wow, the left gets nasty when they get desperate.

Funny how no one threatened Comey with a crime when he said he was not recommending that Hillary be indicted. What changed??? :a20:

[redwitch]

Tis a royal mess. Schoen definitely has a valid point that the emails will probably be an issue for at least the first few months of Hillary's Presidency. It's too late for her to withdraw, even if she wanted to -- too many have already voted. Sadly, even if I could change my vote, I wouldn't. Donald Trump has shown he has no filter, not a great quality in a world leader. This is the saddest election I think America has ever been subjected to. Neither candidate deserves our vote or support. Here's hoping America can survive and that we get far better choices next time.

Red

[MDLNB]

Tis a royal mess. Schoen definitely has a valid point that the emails will probably be an issue for at least the first few months of Hillary's Presidency. It's too late for her to withdraw, even if she wanted to -- too many have already voted. Sadly, even if I could change my vote, I wouldn't. Donald Trump has shown he has no filter, not a great quality in a world leader. This is the saddest election I think America has ever been subjected to. Neither candidate deserves our vote or support. Here's hoping America can survive and that we get far better choices next time.

Red

I don't mean to disparage you, but how on earth could you vote for Hillary, knowing all the crimes she is complicit in? You said that you would not change your vote? Unbelievable!

You do know that what she did was a violation of national security, right? And that she could be responsible for the deaths of at least four Americans, if not more? She is also complicit in the illegal sale of arms to our enemies. Are these issues excusable in your view?

I do not understand how liberals can be so nonchalant when it comes to something as serious as this. I thought we were ALL Americans, not just the right. Liberals act like they are in an ideological war where everything nasty and dirty goes, including hiring thugs to commit violence against the right. It seems that the right are the ones willing to abstain from becoming physical in politics. And we are the ones with all the guns, so that makes us even more responsible when comparing.

I did not vote for Trump in the primary as I still believe others were better for the position. However, when comparing his total vetting by the left with the obvious criminal activity of Hillary, he is the choice between the two. Compare his language in private with Hillary's and you will find that Hillary's vocabulary is more nasty, with her consistent use of the "F" word when addressing almost every issue. Compare his supposed accusations of "kissing" some girls without their permission to Hillary's violation of national security. I still do not believe that Trump is the perfect candidate for the job, but in comparison there is no contest. He is the only choice available. I also believe that he will do a better job of putting America back together again after all the division of the past 8 years.

Unless you on the left are totally blind and deaf, you knew that Hillary had some serious baggage coming into the is campaign. Why you chose her is a puzzle at best. The left has many that are far better choices that they could have chosen from, including one that ran early in the campaign, Webb. Not that I know much about him, but he seemed much more competent than Hillary.

[skylane8]

I don't mean to disparage you, but how on earth could you vote for Hillary, knowing all the crimes she is complicit in? You said that you would not change your vote? Unbelievable!

You do know that what she did was a violation of national security, right? And that she could be responsible for the deaths of at least four Americans, if not more? She is also complicit in the illegal sale of arms to our enemies. Are these issues excusable in your view?

I do not understand how liberals can be so nonchalant when it comes to something as serious as this. I thought we were ALL Americans, not just the right. Liberals act like they are in an ideological war where everything nasty and dirty goes, including hiring thugs to commit violence against the right. It seems that the right are the ones willing to abstain from becoming physical in politics. And we are the ones with all the guns, so that makes us even more responsible when comparing.

I did not vote for Trump in the primary as I still believe others were better for the position. However, when comparing his total vetting by the left with the obvious criminal activity of Hillary, he is the choice between the two. Compare his language in private with Hillary's and you will find that Hillary's vocabulary is more nasty, with her consistent use of the "F" word when addressing almost every issue. Compare his supposed accusations of "kissing" some girls without their permission to Hillary's violation of national security. I still do not believe that Trump is the perfect candidate for the job, but in comparison there is no contest. He is the only choice available. I also believe that he will do a better job of putting America back together again after all the division of the past 8 years.

Unless you on the left are totally blind and deaf, you knew that Hillary had some serious baggage coming into the is campaign. Why you chose her is a puzzle at best. The left has many that are far better choices that they could have chosen from, including one that ran early in the campaign, Webb. Not that I know much about him, but he seemed much more competent than Hillary.
I don't know how Red voted for Hillary. I'll tell you why I did. Planned parenthood and unions. She believes in them. He doesn't. The rest is noise.

[redwitch]

Quite simply, I voted (past tense, so can't change it anyway) for several reasons. The main one is Trump has no filter, none whatsoever. If he thinks it, he says it. If he wants it, he grabs it. If he's mad, he'll have a temper tantrum. If you get him mad, he'll get even. I don't want someone like that having the power to push a nuclear button. Also, as I've said previously, Hillary is closer to my core beliefs -- birth control, education ... I don't like all of her past deeds. Her email server issue showed poor judgment, which doesn't thrill me but I can't put it at a criminal level. I blame the State Department as a whole rather than just Clinton for Benghazi. My big issues and questions go to the Clinton Foundation, its donors and fees paid to the Clintons. I'm still trying to get more facts on those questions. I did not vote blindly nor emotionally. I read and listened to people on both sides of the aisle and found as many neutral sources as possible for Clinton's issues. I ignored conjecture, rumors, campaign rhetoric as much as possible. Trump actually took little research. It was simply a matter of watching him in action over the past two years (I really did pretty much ignore the garbage he spewed prior to that).

Red

[jimbo2012]

Will you feel betrayed and regret if she is found guilty on the Emails or Foundation?

Moreover, if she wins how will the country look to world if impeached?

[maureenod]

Quite simply, I voted (past tense, so can't change it anyway) for several reasons. The main one is Trump has no filter, none whatsoever. If he thinks it, he says it. If he wants it, he grabs it. If he's mad, he'll have a temper tantrum. If you get him mad, he'll get even. I don't want someone like that having the power to push a nuclear button. Also, as I've said previously, Hillary is closer to my core beliefs -- birth control, education ... I don't like all of her past deeds. Her email server issue showed poor judgment, which doesn't thrill me but I can't put it at a criminal level. I blame the State Department as a whole rather than just Clinton for Benghazi. My big issues and questions go to the Clinton Foundation, its donors and fees paid to the Clintons. I'm still trying to get more facts on those questions. I did not vote blindly nor emotionally. I read and listened to people on both sides of the aisle and found as many neutral sources as possible for Clinton's issues. I ignored conjecture, rumors, campaign rhetoric as much as possible. Trump actually took little research. It was simply a matter of watching him in action over the past two years (I really did pretty much ignore the garbage he spewed prior to that).

Red

I totally agree with you red, great truthful post. Thank you

[MDLNB]

I don't know how Red voted for Hillary. I'll tell you why I did. Planned parenthood and unions. She believes in them. He doesn't. The rest is noise.

Two of the many reasons I did NOT/NOT vote for her. America does not need either and both are costing America way too much.

A former union member.

[MDLNB]

Quite simply, I voted (past tense, so can't change it anyway) for several reasons. The main one is Trump has no filter, none whatsoever. If he thinks it, he says it. If he wants it, he grabs it. If he's mad, he'll have a temper tantrum. If you get him mad, he'll get even. I don't want someone like that having the power to push a nuclear button. Also, as I've said previously, Hillary is closer to my core beliefs -- birth control, education ... I don't like all of her past deeds. Her email server issue showed poor judgment, which doesn't thrill me but I can't put it at a criminal level. I blame the State Department as a whole rather than just Clinton for Benghazi. My big issues and questions go to the Clinton Foundation, its donors and fees paid to the Clintons. I'm still trying to get more facts on those questions. I did not vote blindly nor emotionally. I read and listened to people on both sides of the aisle and found as many neutral sources as possible for Clinton's issues. I ignored conjecture, rumors, campaign rhetoric as much as possible. Trump actually took little research. It was simply a matter of watching him in action over the past two years (I really did pretty much ignore the garbage he spewed prior to that).

Red

Interesting. You gave a bunch of reasons NOT to vote for Hillary.

As for Trump's mouth, did you REALLY check it thoroughly? Almost everything he said regarding vulgarity in public, was because he was attacked by a scumbag actress, Rosy O'. She deserved it. The private recorded conversation was just that, private and I have heard worst from my neighbors here in the Villages and much worst from my time in the service or in construction. On the other hand, look at how vulgar Hillary's language is and her treatment of other people. I am sure that in your effort to isolate yourself from anything negative about her, probably because she is a woman, you will assume that all those people that claimed she was mean and vulgar must have had some grudge against her.

Trump is crude, but apparently America needs crude to bring it back to what it used to be, GREAT. And no I did not vote for Trump in the primary but I did vote for him last week. I have come to the conclusion that conservatives have got to quit fighting the political fight civilly when the opposition insists on being dirty. And yes, they are dirty. They were dirty to McCain and Palin and they were dirty to Romney and Ryan. If the left wishes to cry about someone fighting dirty, then they should have not changed the rules.

Regarding where I stand ideologically, it is conservative. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was squeaky clean, and she is far from that. She is for abortion, Gov subsidized Planned Parenthood, gun control, anti-police, hates the military, does not believe in Free Enterprise, wants socialized health care, is careless of our national security secrets, believes in a large government and cares less about the national debt. I am against those views, so yes I am voting the opposite. I'm a patriotic American. I believe in America, not just one person. It would be easy for me to ignore it all and just enjoy my life in the Villages, but I didn't invest so much of myself into my country to turn my back on it while spoiled liberals attempt to destroy our Freedoms.

[Rockyrd]

"This matters. Trump's vulgarity is a manifestation of his complete lack of self-control — the nonexistence of any voice inside his head that says, "Maybe I shouldn't do that thing. Maybe that will be embarrassing. Maybe people will think I'm a tacky show-off if I do this."

Trump has no idea that discretion is the better part of valor.

It's why he brags about his IQ, his wealth, the size of his *****, and even his humility. (Trump, in Sunday's interview: "I think I am actually humble. I think I'm much more humble than you would understand.") It's why he insulted the physical appearance of Ted Cruz's wife and suggested his father might have helped to kill JFK. It's why he called Mexican immigrants rapists. It's why he hesitated to disavow David Duke, the former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, and said he'd try to be "unpredictable" in his handling of nuclear weapons."

This is from Business Insider and your post indicates how very little you know about the man you want in the WH.

He is, frankly, insane, a fact oft discussed but you see that as an asset.

I simply caution you that the winner will spend a minimum of 4 years having control over so much and most importantly, SANE OR INSANE, TEMPER TANTRUM OR NIT, TWITTER OR PRESS CONFERENCE......that person represents your country in EVERY WAY.

You stand to win OR LOSE based in his mouth.

Thinking a vulgar mouthed man with no self control is a good choice is interesting.

[MDLNB]

"This matters. Trump's vulgarity is a manifestation of his complete lack of self-control — the nonexistence of any voice inside his head that says, "Maybe I shouldn't do that thing. Maybe that will be embarrassing. Maybe people will think I'm a tacky show-off if I do this."

Trump has no idea that discretion is the better part of valor.

It's why he brags about his IQ, his wealth, the size of his *****, and even his humility. (Trump, in Sunday's interview: "I think I am actually humble. I think I'm much more humble than you would understand.") It's why he insulted the physical appearance of Ted Cruz's wife and suggested his father might have helped to kill JFK. It's why he called Mexican immigrants rapists. It's why he hesitated to disavow David Duke, the former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, and said he'd try to be "unpredictable" in his handling of nuclear weapons."

This is from Business Insider and your post indicates how very little you know about the man you want in the WH.

He is, frankly, insane, a fact oft discussed but you see that as an asset.

I simply caution you that the winner will spend a minimum of 4 years having control over so much and most importantly, SANE OR INSANE, TEMPER TANTRUM OR NIT, TWITTER OR PRESS CONFERENCE......that person represents your country in EVERY WAY.

You stand to win OR LOSE based in his mouth.

Thinking a vulgar mouthed man with no self control is a good choice is interesting.

Hillary's vulgar mouth doesn't bother you. I guess you are a sexist.

[njbchbum]

Doug Schoen: Reassessing my support for Hillary Clinton | TheHill (http://www.thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/303542-doug-schoen-reassessing-my-support-for-hillary)

[skylane8]

Two of the many reasons I did NOT/NOT vote for her. America does not need either and both are costing America way too much.

A former union member.

Sure glad you are a former union member. I never had any use for people that bit the hand that fed them.

[MDLNB]

Sure glad you are a former union member. I never had any use for people that bit the hand that fed them.

More like they sold us out. Unions had a purpose once, but not now. With all the gov regulations, there is no need for unions now. They have priced themselves out of business. It's only function is to make the mob rich, while taking a sizable chunk from your paycheck. They have priced American jobs to the point that businesses have found that it is more profitable to take their business overseas. My brother retired from the union and bragged about how his health insurance was great and exempt from Obamacare. Recently, he received a letter in the mail telling him that he would no longer have insurance as the union could not afford to pay for it's retirees. Now, he has to pay almost a thousand a month for Medicare and supplements for him and his wife. THey were exempt from Obamacare, but not from the effects of Obamacare.

The union didn't "feed" me. I fed me and my family. I left the union to move onto a different career. There was no biting of the hand, as you call it. But, I did see many getting hosed by the union. They are just as corrupt as the government.

[skylane8]

More like they sold us out. Unions had a purpose once, but not now. With all the gov regulations, there is no need for unions now. They have priced themselves out of business. It's only function is to make the mob rich, while taking a sizable chunk from your paycheck. They have priced American jobs to the point that businesses have found that it is more profitable to take their business overseas. My brother retired from the union and bragged about how his health insurance was great and exempt from Obamacare. Recently, he received a letter in the mail telling him that he would no longer have insurance as the union could not afford to pay for it's retirees. Now, he has to pay almost a thousand a month for Medicare and supplements for him and his wife. THey were exempt from Obamacare, but not from the effects of Obamacare.

The union didn't "feed" me. I fed me and my family. I left the union to move onto a different career. There was no biting of the hand, as you call it. But, I did see many getting hosed by the union. They are just as corrupt as the government.
Great spin. Why did you join a company that had a union in the first place? I didn't work for a union. I worked for a company. They paid me and my benefits. I joined the union, because they negotiated a contract so that I got to work under a fair working agreement. That is typical bs that management wants you to believe that unions moved the jobs overseas. There is only 6 percent of the country in private unions. I don't care whether you like unions or not. I do care whether the President of the US. does. The Republicans don't.

[MDLNB]

Great spin. Why did you join a company that had a union in the first place? I didn't work for a union. I worked for a company. They paid me and my benefits. I joined the union, because they negotiated a contract so that I got to work under a fair working agreement. That is typical bs that management wants you to believe that unions moved the jobs overseas. There is only 6 percent of the country in private unions. I don't care whether you like unions or not. I do care whether the President of the US. does. The Republicans don't.

I did not work for just ONE union company. I worked out of a Union hall. I don't know how you worked, but I went to the union hall where I got in line for a job. I worked the job until it was finished and then went back to the hall.

Yes, unions caused wages to increase to the point that big business moved overseas. That is a given, whether you wish to accept that or not.

And I do not care whether or not you care if I like unions. You are the one that made the comment about me being former union, and I responded.

Unions are not a reason for me to vote for or against a candidate, but if that was the only difference in the view and issues in the candidates, I would vote for the one that did not favor unions. Why? Because they are no longer needed. All they do is reduce a family's lifestyle by leaching from them every month. If a union was totally voluntary then I would not care what they did. And you made my point by stating that there are only 6% of the job force now.