Trumps Private Dinner Causes "Backlash" from Ditched Reporters

[TexaninVA]

We have all learned how (literally) corrupt the press is, but I must say I had not fully realized how plain stupid and out of touch some of them can be. However, it is not all bad --at least they provide us amusement albeit unintentional.
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Trump's dinner dash sparks backlash from ditched reporters | TheHill (http://thehill.com/media/306347-trumps-dinner-dash-sparks-backlash-from-ditched-reporters)

The press got their panties into a major moralistic wad because Trump took his family out for a private dinner but "failed" to tell them!! Why would Trump want to the press there so they could come along and ruin it by their obnoxious presence shouting questions, trying to trap him on some nit, and the usual things they do to make themselves look boorish???.

A CNN guy later said Trump supports would likely still probably cheer him anyway. No kidding!

[Boudicca]

Duh!!!

[janmcn]

We have all learned how (literally) corrupt the press is, but I must say I had not fully realized how plain stupid and out of touch some of them can be. However, it is not all bad --at least they provide us amusement albeit unintentional.
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Trump's dinner dash sparks backlash from ditched reporters | TheHill (http://thehill.com/media/306347-trumps-dinner-dash-sparks-backlash-from-ditched-reporters)

The press got their panties into a major moralistic wad because Trump took his family out for a private dinner but "failed" to tell them!! Why would Trump want to the press there so they could come along and ruin it by their obnoxious presence shouting questions, trying to trap him on some nit, and the usual things they do to make themselves look boorish???.

A CNN guy later said Trump supports would likely still probably cheer him anyway. No kidding!


These 'ditched reporters' are part of the protective press corps. They have been assigned to every president and presidential candidate since JFK was shot in 1963. They are not there to ask questions.
They are only there for national security in case the president or president-elect gets shot or meets other harm.

If Trump had gotten shot and killed last night on his way to dinner, there would be no record of it. Someone needs to explain this to Trump

[TexaninVA]

These 'ditched reporters' are part of the protective press corps. They have been assigned to every president and presidential candidate since JFK was shot in 1963. They are not there to ask questions.
They are only there for national security in case the president or president-elect gets shot or meets other harm.

If Trump had gotten shot and killed last night on his way to dinner, there would be no record of it. Someone needs to explain this to Trump

Reading your eloquent prose ... the first phrase that comes to mind is "crocodile tears"

[njbchbum]

Looks like loyalty is just being rewarded to me!

[Chi-Town]

These 'ditched reporters' are part of the protective press corps. They have been assigned to every president and presidential candidate since JFK was shot in 1963. They are not there to ask questions.
They are only there for national security in case the president or president-elect gets shot or meets other harm.

If Trump had gotten shot and killed last night on his way to dinner, there would be no record of it. Someone needs to explain this to Trump
Thanks for the explanation. I understand the desire to be left alone, but that isn't how it is for him now. And definitely won't be during his Presidential term.

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[AJ32162]

These 'ditched reporters' are part of the protective press corps. They have been assigned to every president and presidential candidate since JFK was shot in 1963. They are not there to ask questions.
They are only there for national security in case the president or president-elect gets shot or meets other harm.

If Trump had gotten shot and killed last night on his way to dinner, there would be no record of it. Someone needs to explain this to Trump

Kinda like if a tree falls in the forest and no one it there to hear it, huh?:D

[dirtbanker]

These 'ditched reporters' are part of the protective press corps. They have been assigned to every president and presidential candidate since JFK was shot in 1963. They are not there to ask questions.
They are only there for national security in case the president or president-elect gets shot or meets other harm.

If Trump had gotten shot and killed last night on his way to dinner, there would be no record of it. Someone needs to explain this to Trump

This is stupid on many levels...must have been a liberal's idea!

How is the reporter being there when, or if, the president gets shot serve national security? Do they keep him alive by interviewing him? Do they keep the rest of the nation safe by interviewing the shooter?

There would be no record of a president being shot if the reporter was not present at the time of the shooting?? How did everyone know JFK had been shot, seeing how this stupid press corp was not invented yet??

Again, this is STUPID $hit we waste money on as a government.

[jblum315]

he has forfeited the right to privacy

[jimbo2012]

Who cares if it takes a break, as long as the SS is there.

[Allegiance]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/us/politics/27obama.html


The media has proved they are sh!t and Trump owes them zero respect.

[ColdNoMore]

It won't last long, because if we don't know anything else about him...we do know that Trump is a publicity whore.


I think the real question is how long will it be... before he resumes his Tweet meltdowns. :ohdear:


I give him another week...at the most. :D

[graciegirl]

These 'ditched reporters' are part of the protective press corps. They have been assigned to every president and presidential candidate since JFK was shot in 1963. They are not there to ask questions.
They are only there for national security in case the president or president-elect gets shot or meets other harm.

If Trump had gotten shot and killed last night on his way to dinner, there would be no record of it. Someone needs to explain this to Trump

Imagine that as an argument.......come on fella.

[graciegirl]

It won't last long, because if we don't know anything else about him...we do know that Trump is a publicity whore.


I think the real question is how long will it be... before he resumes his Tweet meltdowns. :ohdear:


I give him another week...at the most. :D

Crow with lemon sauce, sugah.

[ColdNoMore]

Crow with lemon sauce, sugah.

Do what the mods told you... and quit hanging on my pecker.

[TexaninVA]

Do what the mods told you... and quit hanging on my pecker.

CNM ... you're once more confused. We've already established you're so gender fluid you don't even know if you have one of those.

[ColdNoMore]

CNM ... you're once more confused. We've already established you're so gender fluid you don't even know if you have one of those.
Wrong again. :D

The passive-aggressive snake knows. ;)

[tcxr750]

The tradition for the Press and the President is one more that wisdom says should be observed. Even when Donald only visits the White House for governmental ceremony and lives in one of his "AMAZING" luxury properties, he will be living the philosophy of Ayn Rand and "The Virtue of Selfishness." It's not about U.S., it's about ME.

[MDLNB]

The press is OWED nothing. They are the ones putting out their lies and distortions, so they are warranted NOTHING. Just because Obie is the entertainer-in-chief and the media ate it up, does not mean that Trump is obligated to pander to the press. Tradition my @ss! Tradition tried to insist that he release his tax returns, yet he still won. Tradition says that the gov pander to the lobbyists, and he is kicking them out. Tradition is NOT law or even regulation. The press has caused the riots and protests so they can go follow the coddled children as the ignorantly protest something they do not even understand. Trump is working and he does not have time for pandering to the media. He used them to win, and they probably feel as used as a stiffed prostitute. I really enjoyed hearing them whine about him having a steak dinner with his kids, leaving out the press. Gotta love it.

[jimbo2012]

agree

[tcxr750]

The PRESS does not sit with the President when he dines. They can be at Burger King, it's ok. Now, that we are getting cozy with Russia we don't want to adopt their system that controls the media. (Isvestia and Pravda). The Founding Fathers didn't make Freedom of the Press number one in the Bill of Rights just to "p!!s o!!f" future generations. Find solace and comfort at Fox and Clear Channel.

[Villagesperson]

Imagine that as an argument.......come on fella.


Glad that some find humor in this situation...not so funny actually !

People on here really getting full of themselves.


"This is the kind of job that falls uniquely to the protective pool following the president or vice president of the United States. It chronicles the unfolding events, large and small, of a presidency, with the belief that writing history shouldn’t be left only to loyal staffers and government officials. It tries to keep the public informed — where the president is, where the president is going, what the president is doing and saying, how the president is doing, with whom the president is meeting. And it’s designed to tell Americans, and the world, about the president’s whereabouts and well-being in the event of a crisis, and how the president is responding. At its grimmest, it’s sometimes called a “body watch,” the bleak legacy of the assassination of JFK and the attempted murder of Ronald Reagan. But the “protective” in protective pool refers to the fact that it follows the president just in case and does not assemble for a specific announcement. (The president always has a protective pool, while the vice president gets one chiefly when traveling abroad.)



Why you should care about Trump ditching his press pool (https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-reporters-worry-about-trump-ditching-his-press-pool-173416077.html)

"For security reasons, there's little if any advance warning about where the presidential motorcade will be going. But once it's on the move, there's a vital tool that we used heavily to cover that visit: the protective press pool.

This term refers to a small group of journalists who are given access to travel with the president and provide information that's shared with media organizations, which can then share it with their readers. The gravity of the office demands that such accounting for the president's activities takes place, and every administration going back decades has worked with the news media to accommodate pool coverage for that reason."



Boyer: Why a presidential press pool is important | Jeremy Boyer | auburnpub.com (http://auburnpub.com/news/opinion/columnists/jeremy_boyer/boyer-why-a-presidential-press-pool-is-important/article_5cf98765-8cfa-5e05-93c5-49399a0b3a96.html)

[MDLNB]

The PRESS does not sit with the President when he dines. They can be at Burger King, it's ok. Now, that we are getting cozy with Russia we don't want to adopt their system that controls the media. (Isvestia and Pravda). The Founding Fathers didn't make Freedom of the Press number one in the Bill of Rights just to "p!!s o!!f" future generations. Find solace and comfort at Fox and Clear Channel.

No one is controlling the press. They can continue to sneak around and make their own news all they wish. If the president wishes to have some private time, there is no law that I know of that states that it is mandatory for the press to be present. Their freedom does not give them privileges. The left tried to make "tradition" into a regulation of some sort with his tax return, and it did not work. In order to work, someone has to give a sh*t.

[MikeV]

The press is OWED nothing. They are the ones putting out their lies and distortions, so they are warranted NOTHING. Just because Obie is the entertainer-in-chief and the media ate it up, does not mean that Trump is obligated to pander to the press. Tradition my @ss! Tradition tried to insist that he release his tax returns, yet he still won. Tradition says that the gov pander to the lobbyists, and he is kicking them out. Tradition is NOT law or even regulation. The press has caused the riots and protests so they can go follow the coddled children as the ignorantly protest something they do not even understand. Trump is working and he does not have time for pandering to the media. He used them to win, and they probably feel as used as a stiffed prostitute. I really enjoyed hearing them whine about him having a steak dinner with his kids, leaving out the press. Gotta love it.



Good post I totally agree.


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[janmcn]

This is stupid on many levels...must have been a liberal's idea!

How is the reporter being there when, or if, the president gets shot serve national security? Do they keep him alive by interviewing him? Do they keep the rest of the nation safe by interviewing the shooter?

There would be no record of a president being shot if the reporter was not present at the time of the shooting?? How did everyone know JFK had been shot, seeing how this stupid press corp was not invented yet??

Again, this is STUPID $hit we waste money on as a government.


This is the same press that was present and recorded the events when Reagan was shot.

[tcxr750]

I'm guessing every President in our lifetimes has been followed by the media. Just like famous personalities. Every President has revealed his tax returns. When you become famous that comes with the territory. President Obama's faults have all been exposed by the media. The Donald is subject to the same scrutiny. When we become a one party system like our beloved trading partners in China we can conveniently disregard The Bill of Rights and The Constitution to protect our leaders from criticism.

[MDLNB]

How dare Trump eat in private! He needs to be transparent like Hillary and Obama were with Benghzi, or how transparent Hillary attempted to be by secreting and illegally using her own email server to transmit classified and business information. I wonder if Trump wiped his dish when he was through like Hillary wiped her server. Trump probably tipped his server, while Hillary deleted her server.

[rubicon]

Clearly the news media in general has lost the respect of its readers and justifiably so given their unethical behavior. So it is logical that Trump and others would not trust them and ignore or strike out at a reporter whom they deemed having a biased/personal agenda.

On the other hand we do have a right to be fully informed of the president's actions, relationships etc ( transparency)

This is a fine line and in order for journalist to walk it they better prove to any president that they can be trusted to utilize good judgment and always behave in an ethical manner

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

Clearly the news media in general has lost the respect of its readers and justifiably so given their unethical behavior. So it is logical that Trump and others would not trust them and ignore or strike out at a reporter whom they deemed having a biased/personal agenda.

On the other hand we do have a right to be fully informed of the president's actions, relationships etc ( transparency)

This is a fine line and in order for journalist to walk it they better prove to any president that they can be trusted to utilize good judgment and always behave in an ethical manner

Personal Best Regards:

How would you suggest this be done ?

Just saying because our new President will "tweet" or whatever needs to be done if a story is written about him that is not flattering.....TRUTH is NEVER a determinate for these punch backs.

He has turned many people against the media, and for the life of me I cannot understand anyone undermining the media. If you do not agree, fine but I am speaking of the rhetoric he used, prompting his followers to spit and yell obscenity at anyone even remotely in the area of media.

He go the nomination because of the media, of that nobody can argue.

What do you suggest the media do for Trump ?

Not making a general defense of the media because they can irritate me a lot, but mostly when they do not print MY views :) What do they do if they are not lying about him ?

I sure want the media to keep all of them honest.....do not want them to lie.....but sure want them to keep that oval honest and his constant rantings cannot change facts !

[MDLNB]

The news should be reported like a police incident report.........facts, not opinions. If we want opinions, we can turn back to the commentaries and comments section.

[Allegiance]

The news should be reported like a police incident report.........facts, not opinions. If we want opinions, we can turn back to the commentaries and comments section.
Exactly , Trump owes these scumbags nothing. Tradition means nothing! Let's start with law and order.

When the press proves they are not the scum they are maybe the Don will respect them.

[Rockyrd]

The news should be reported like a police incident report.........facts, not opinions. If we want opinions, we can turn back to the commentaries and comments section.

Curious as to your source of news. I am sure there are more than one, but the one that fits your definition most closely.

[Don Baldwin]

Curious as to your source of news. I am sure there are more than one, but the one that fits your definition most closely.

Your own eyes when you're actually there as it happens.

EVERYTHING else is suspect, subject to the reporters interpretation.

10 people watching the same thing results in several different versions of "what happened". Studies show eye witnesses are unreliable. Unmolested video. But then you need the context.

The "news", "history", it's all corrupted, like those above us. High level Politicians, CEOs, High level Clergy...all corrupt. We hear what they want us to hear.

I don't trust Wikileaks, Snowden either. Controlled opposition, leak enough but never TOO much.

Chomsky has a lot of good points...too bad he's IMPOSSIBLE to watch/listen to. Manufactured Consent...that's their propaganda in a nutshell. Make us WANT to accept it, even though it's bullsh!t. Equality. Diversity. They convince you it's grand, noble, the right thing to do...when it destroys you. Shake it off...take the red pill. Become TRULY enlightened.

[tcxr750]

"Someone owes these scumbags nothing" "let's start with law and order" In a dictatorship there is also law and order. There is no "Freedom of Speech." Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao, Adolph Hitler. "I use emotion for the many and reason for the few" A.Hitler
"Politics is when you say you are going to do one thing while intending to do another. Then you do neither what you said or what you intended" Saddam Hussein.

[Allegiance]

"Someone owes these scumbags nothing" "let's start with law and order" In a dictatorship there is also law and order. There is no "Freedom of Speech." Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao, Adolph Hitler. "I use emotion for the many and reason for the few" A.Hitler
"Politics is when you say you are going to do one thing while intending to do another. Then you do neither what you said or what you intended" Saddam Hussein.
The media has proved what they are. Let them earn THE Donald's respect.

Tradition means nothing, I hate when people say "but we are a nation of immigrants."

It's about law and order!

Without it, there is nothing.

[Taltarzac725]

Donald Trump has to earn our respect. His conduct during his campaign sure indicates it is not deserved.

[Taltarzac725]

White House press corps - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_press_corps)

The Press Corps play a pivotal role in our Founding Fathers vision of a Free Press not controlled by the Government. This is a very important check-and-balance against the kind of tyranny they were so afraid of that you find throughout English, Greek and Roman history.

[jimbo2012]

Donald Trump has to earn our respect. His conduct during his campaign sure indicates it is not deserved.

Over 60 million and over 300 electoral votes say he did.

World leaders are calling him, the stock market......

You just don't like him, there's a flight to Canada at 5pm, need a ride?

[jimbo2012]

White House press corps - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_press_corps)

The Press Corps

Do you think they missed an opportunity to interview the waiter that served him?

That's something of national interest?

He is shunning the MSM for screwing him over the last 18 months get that?

Also he's not yet sworn in that matter?

[jimbo2012]

Trump is punking them for amusement.

[Taltarzac725]

Over 60 million and over 300 electoral votes say he did.

World leaders are calling him, the stock market......

You just don't like him, there's a flight to Canada at 5pm, need a ride?

More people voted for Hillary Clinton and there was a lot of false stories and trolling on social media.

World leaders have to call him he is President-Elect.

We will see what he does once he takes office. I have very low expectations however for Donald Trump and he has done nothing to gain any confidence in him.

And the Electoral College have not voted yet. It would be a horrible precedent though if they voted for someone other than who their constituencies picked.

[Rockyrd]

More people voted for Hillary Clinton and there was a lot of false stories and trolling on social media.

World leaders have to call him he is President-Elect.

We will see what he does once he takes office. I have very low expectations however for Donald Trump and he has done nothing to gain any confidence in him.

And the Electoral College have not voted yet. It would be a horrible precedent though if they voted for someone other than who their constituencies picked.

1. The poster you are responding to said Trump got "over 300 electoral votes".....actually it was 290.

Most importantly to your post.

I suggest you come to grips. He is elected President. I opposed him NOT because of whatever proposals he made but on his despicable character and morals and habit of lying profoundly.

I wish him all the luck with any proposals that will help my country or protect us, and this election will be a test for me as I always felt the leader of the country should have some morals. If he succeeds for 4 years, I will need to eat come crow and admit it does not matter how you live your life, not who you hurt or what meanness is in your heart, you can still be President.

I honestly wish him luck with all he proposes

[jimbo2012]

his despicable character and morals and habit of lying profoundly.

Forgot HRC was perfect?


Oh that's right you voted for some wing nut independant

[jimbo2012]

1. The poster you are responding to said Trump got "over 300 electoral votes".....actually it was 290.



I think Michigan’s 16 electoral votes will go to Trump

[Taltarzac725]

1. The poster you are responding to said Trump got "over 300 electoral votes".....actually it was 290.

Most importantly to your post.

I suggest you come to grips. He is elected President. I opposed him NOT because of whatever proposals he made but on his despicable character and morals and habit of lying profoundly.

I wish him all the luck with any proposals that will help my country or protect us, and this election will be a test for me as I always felt the leader of the country should have some morals. If he succeeds for 4 years, I will need to eat come crow and admit it does not matter how you live your life, not who you hurt or what meanness is in your heart, you can still be President.

I honestly wish him luck with all he proposes

We will see. We have had dishonest Presidents before.

[Rockyrd]

We will see. We have had dishonest Presidents before.

We sure have.....dishonest, adulterers and all types, BUT NEVER EVER anyone in his catagory...not even close to his immorality and lack of any redeeming character.

BUT he was elected by the electoral college and thus he is the President. I am trying hard to just concentrate on his policy decisions, cabinet appointments etc.

I am just cautioned by the fact that he is a deplorable liar and chronically so....evidence yesterday on his claim that he somehow had input on the decision by Ford. I just caution everyone to know this man is not someone to trust, nor what appears to be some posters favorite website..Breitbart. I promise you, they lie and do it openly and often

[Rockyrd]

Forgot HRC was perfect?


Oh that's right you voted for some wing nut independant

HRC is not part of this discussion or did that get past you ?????

[TexaninVA]

1. The poster you are responding to said Trump got "over 300 electoral votes".....actually it was 290.

Most importantly to your post.

I suggest you come to grips. He is elected President. I opposed him NOT because of whatever proposals he made but on his despicable character and morals and habit of lying profoundly.

I wish him all the luck with any proposals that will help my country or protect us, and this election will be a test for me as I always felt the leader of the country should have some morals. If he succeeds for 4 years, I will need to eat come crow and admit it does not matter how you live your life, not who you hurt or what meanness is in your heart, you can still be President.

I honestly wish him luck with all he proposes

Excellent post and sentiments .... one note: he will get 306 once Michigan is resolved.

[Don Baldwin]

Forgot HRC was perfect?


Oh that's right you voted for some wing nut independant

The conditioning runs deep in you...BOTH the D and R party are completely corrupt.

We will see. We have had dishonest Presidents before.

Ah...like maybe ALL of them?

We sure have.....dishonest, adulterers and all types, BUT NEVER EVER anyone in his catagory...not even close to his immorality and lack of any redeeming character.

BUT he was elected by the electoral college and thus he is the President. I am trying hard to just concentrate on his policy decisions, cabinet appointments etc.

I am just cautioned by the fact that he is a deplorable liar and chronically so....evidence yesterday on his claim that he somehow had input on the decision by Ford. I just caution everyone to know this man is not someone to trust, nor what appears to be some posters favorite website..Breitbart. I promise you, they lie and do it openly and often

Obama? He's been pretty disgraceful and lied a lot.

[Villagesperson]

The conditioning runs deep in you...BOTH the D and R party are completely corrupt.



Ah...like maybe ALL of them?



Obama? He's been pretty disgraceful and lied a lot.

Not going to reply in depth to you except to say it would be to your advantage to widen your reading a bit.

You seem to take each post, and spread your negativity.

I oppose Trump on his character...THAT LACK OF CHARACTER AND MORALS CANNOT BE DISPUTED.

You feel that you can cushion that fact by mentioning others who have told those political lies which we seem to get used to.

Trump is in his own catagory, but thats ok. If you want to use past to defend him so be it.....I propose that we take everyone at present. I know JFK cheated...I know what Bill Clinton did....and I know all about Donald Trump. JFK is dead....Bill Clinton is a private citizen.

Do I believe all politicians are corrupt. I DO NOT and welcome you to try to make that case, which you cannot. Everything in this world is not black and white and you cant make it that way to defend things Trump has done and said, NOT AS A PRESIDENT YET, but throughout his entire life. It is a matter of record and again....I will support him in policy issues I think, but never will anyone tell me that he is a nice person in anyway. He is a lying, mean spirited man with no character traits that anyone would ever want their children to have, BUT he is the President...we shall see but again I point out, and it is minor I admit....how he lied about stopping a Ford move...he simply lies without thinking, and you folks blame the media for calling him on it.

[Rockyrd]

My hope is with his appointments, he will be surrounded by people who can make him understand that being truthful is important.

He is 70 years old and thus I suspect little change. He still has a need to be patted on the back, and I really question this supposed "thank you tour" he is talking about. It is lined with security risks and I think the countries business should take precedence.

But, I agree...he is not anywhere near to being a nice man or even acceptable on morals or character.

We will see how this translates.

[Don Baldwin]

Not going to reply in depth to you except to say it would be to your advantage to widen your reading a bit.

You seem to take each post, and spread your negativity.

I oppose Trump on his character...THAT LACK OF CHARACTER AND MORALS CANNOT BE DISPUTED.

You feel that you can cushion that fact by mentioning others who have told those political lies which we seem to get used to.

Trump is in his own catagory, but thats ok. If you want to use past to defend him so be it.....I propose that we take everyone at present. I know JFK cheated...I know what Bill Clinton did....and I know all about Donald Trump. JFK is dead....Bill Clinton is a private citizen.

Do I believe all politicians are corrupt. I DO NOT and welcome you to try to make that case, which you cannot. Everything in this world is not black and white and you cant make it that way to defend things Trump has done and said, NOT AS A PRESIDENT YET, but throughout his entire life. It is a matter of record and again....I will support him in policy issues I think, but never will anyone tell me that he is a nice person in anyway. He is a lying, mean spirited man with no character traits that anyone would ever want their children to have, BUT he is the President...we shall see but again I point out, and it is minor I admit....how he lied about stopping a Ford move...he simply lies without thinking, and you folks blame the media for calling him on it.

Sorry...you're confused by the "Guest" thing...I've never supported Trump nor Hillary...no D or R...because...they ARE ALL CORRUPT. They just haven't been caught/turned in yet.

Negative...about politics and corruption? Really? I wonder why? I ask how someone could have anything positive to say about them or what they do.

YOU need to read more and of a wider scope.

Remember...the LAST person you want in the ultimate power position...is someone who WANTS to be in that position. We'd be better off with the OTHER "election process" the founders kicked around...a "jury duty" system. Except it would be "president duty" or "Senator duty", or "Congressman duty". It couldn't be worse that the current system of complete corruption.

Hillary is NOT the answer. Unless...you're black, hispanic, female, gay, lazy.

[MDLNB]

Amazing how many crybabies on here, when I thought this was mostly seniors from The Villages. Trump is this and Trump is that. Well, one thing you will learn is that Trump will be a hundred percent better than Obama. Yes, Obama is very well spoken. Harry Reid said Obama speaks very good "white" when he wants to. After you all get done telling us how despicable he is, forgetting about how nasty and despicable the Clintons are, remember that he is YOUR PRESIDENT now. What difference does it make to anyone/ANYONE how close the vote was? Like the saying goes "close only matters in horseshoes and hand grenades." Hitlery lost and is a very poor loser. Personally, it would not matter to me if Billy and Hitlery both jumped off a cliff or took poison together. Unfortunately for America, I fear that we have not seen the last of that cancer.

I do hope that Obummer pardons Hitlery, because that will take one item off of Trump's already full plate of things to correct from the last administration. And there are so many crybabies that we would probably lose half the country to suicide if Hitlery was convicted. And she would be convicted in a fair court.

[Rockyrd]

Sorry...you're confused by the "Guest" thing...I've never supported Trump nor Hillary...no D or R...because...they ARE ALL CORRUPT. They just haven't been caught/turned in yet.

Negative...about politics and corruption? Really? I wonder why? I ask how someone could have anything positive to say about them or what they do.

YOU need to read more and of a wider scope.

Remember...the LAST person you want in the ultimate power position...is someone who WANTS to be in that position. We'd be better off with the OTHER "election process" the founders kicked around...a "jury duty" system. Except it would be "president duty" or "Senator duty", or "Congressman duty". It couldn't be worse that the current system of complete corruption.

Hillary is NOT the answer. Unless...you're black, hispanic, female, gay, lazy.

Why do you folks continue to bring up Hillary Clinton ?

Election is over....Trump is President....he is what he is and always has been but Clinton is not part of this conversation any longer

[Don Baldwin]

Why do you folks continue to bring up Hillary Clinton ?

Election is over....Trump is President....he is what he is and always has been but Clinton is not part of this conversation any longer

Actually...he is NOT the president. We elected the "electors" who will do the actual election vote themselves in December. They ARE obligated to vote for Trump...but they ARE free to vote for anyone they want. They could theoretically elect Sanders. The Electoral College is the ONLY vote that elects the president...and it hasn't happened yet. you'll know in January, when Congress counts the votes.

Officially, Hillary COULD still win. It depends on whether Trump is REALLY an outsider that the R party hates...or we've all been fooled by the "reality TV" part Trump played so well as the "rogue" candidate.

He could be a "transformer", a master of disguise...a "decepticon" to use the parlance or vernacular of the younger generation.

[Allegiance]

White House press corps - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_press_corps)

The Press Corps play a pivotal role in our Founding Fathers vision of a Free Press not controlled by the Government. This is a very important check-and-balance against the kind of tyranny they were so afraid of that you find throughout English, Greek and Roman history.

Tyranny:cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control.

That is the new definition of the media. The working person knows that.

F the media

[MDLNB]

President Elect Obama ditches press:

"it was in December when he ditched the press pool, and he wasn’t just out for dinner somewhere. He was on a Hawaii vacation. CNN reported at the time:

A vacationing President-elect Barack Obama slipped away from the traveling press pool that follows him wherever he goes, taking his two young daughters, family members and friends to Hawaii’s Sea Life Park.

Likewise, the New York Times reported around the same time:

In the news-free zone that is Barack Obama’s preinauguration Hawaiian vacation, this passes for a bulletin: The president-elect ditched his “press pool” of media minders to take his daughters to a water park on Friday morning.

In making his dash — with his Secret Service security detail, to be sure — Mr. Obama drew attention both to the seemingly odd but important rituals of the presidential (and prepresidential) bubble and to just how much this very private public man chafes under its constraints."

[ColdNoMore]

We sure have.....dishonest, adulterers and all types, BUT NEVER EVER anyone in his category...not even close to his immorality and lack of any redeeming character.

BUT he was elected by the electoral college and thus he is the President. I am trying hard to just concentrate on his policy decisions, cabinet appointments etc.

I am just cautioned by the fact that he is a deplorable liar and chronically so....evidence yesterday on his claim that he somehow had input on the decision by Ford. I just caution everyone to know this man is not someone to trust, nor what appears to be some posters favorite website..Breitbart. I promise you, they lie and do it openly and often


You nailed it! :thumbup:

In fact, your post inspired me to start a thread I've been thinking about since Chump got elected and his followers on here have proved...what so many of us have been thinking since he declared his candidacy.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/figuring-out-trump-218995/#post1322350

I can't wait for the responses from the usual suspects. :D

[RickeyD]

We sure have.....dishonest, adulterers and all types, BUT NEVER EVER anyone in his catagory...not even close to his immorality and lack of any redeeming character.

BUT he was elected by the electoral college and thus he is the President. I am trying hard to just concentrate on his policy decisions, cabinet appointments etc.

I am just cautioned by the fact that he is a deplorable liar and chronically so....evidence yesterday on his claim that he somehow had input on the decision by Ford. I just caution everyone to know this man is not someone to trust, nor what appears to be some posters favorite website..Breitbart. I promise you, they lie and do it openly and often



Ironically one of the reasons for creating the electoral college was to prevent someone like Trump from ever being elected. The founders weren't fond of mob rule.

[janmcn]

The 'protective' press pool, established as a result of JFK's murder, will be abolished after over fifty years in existence.

They gave us a close-up view of the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan and W Bush being informed of the World Trade attack, but Trump sees no need for it. It's a waste of money.

So they will hang a 'gone fishin' sign on their office and let Trump fend for himself.

[MDLNB]

The 'protective' press pool, established as a result of JFK's murder, will be abolished after over fifty years in existence.

They gave us a close-up view of the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan and W Bush being informed of the World Trade attack, but Trump sees no need for it. It's a waste of money.

So they will hang a 'gone fishin' sign on their office and let Trump fend for himself.

Get over it. If you look at the post above you will see that Obama did it also. Or, is he given a pass because he is.....you know......?

[janmcn]

Amazing how many crybabies on here, when I thought this was mostly seniors from The Villages. Trump is this and Trump is that. Well, one thing you will learn is that Trump will be a hundred percent better than Obama. Yes, Obama is very well spoken. Harry Reid said Obama speaks very good "white" when he wants to. After you all get done telling us how despicable he is, forgetting about how nasty and despicable the Clintons are, remember that he is YOUR PRESIDENT now. What difference does it make to anyone/ANYONE how close the vote was? Like the saying goes "close only matters in horseshoes and hand grenades." Hitlery lost and is a very poor loser. Personally, it would not matter to me if Billy and Hitlery both jumped off a cliff or took poison together. Unfortunately for America, I fear that we have not seen the last of that cancer.

I do hope that Obummer pardons Hitlery, because that will take one item off of Trump's already full plate of things to correct from the last administration. And there are so many crybabies that we would probably lose half the country to suicide if Hitlery was convicted. And she would be convicted in a fair court.


Don't you have to at least be accused of a crime before you receive a presidential pardon? Are we still a country that has due process? How about innocent until proven guilty?

[MDLNB]

Don't you have to at least be accused of a crime before you receive a presidential pardon? Are we still a country that has due process? How about innocent until proven guilty?

No, you do not have to be indicted to be pardoned. And the president can pardon himself also.

[janmcn]

No, you do not have to be indicted to be pardoned. And the president can pardon himself also.


So if a person is not indicted, what would they be pardoned for? Are you saying the president could issue 300 million pardons to every man, woman and child in the US and say just stick this in your pocket in case you need it before you die?

[jimbo2012]

I understand it this way

Mr. X is pardoned from any criminal acts defined or not before this date.

[ColdNoMore]

So if a person is not indicted, what would they be pardoned for? Are you saying the president could issue 300 million pardons to every man, woman and child in the US and say just stick this in your pocket in case you need it before you die?

Amazingly enough...that is correct.

The precedent was actually set back in the Civil War era and was a question being floated...when Bush left office.

Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime? (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2008/07/preemptive_presidential_pardons.html)

Wait—can a president really pardon someone who hasn't even been charged with a crime?

Yep. In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment." (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.)

Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.

Which brings up an interesting scenario.

Suppose Obama 'pardons' every undocumented person in the country (regarding being here illegally)...on the day he leaves office?

What then?

[MDLNB]

So if a person is not indicted, what would they be pardoned for? Are you saying the president could issue 300 million pardons to every man, woman and child in the US and say just stick this in your pocket in case you need it before you die?

How old are you? Does your grandma know you are playing on her computer?

[MDLNB]

Amazingly enough...that is correct.

The precedent was actually set back in the Civil War era and was a question being floated...when Bush left office.

Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime? (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2008/07/preemptive_presidential_pardons.html)



Which brings up an interesting scenario.

Suppose Obama 'pardons' every undocumented person in the country (regarding being here illegally)...on the day he leaves office?

What then?

Funny that you mention that. If you read your current events, you will see that he is thinking of pardoning 750K illegal aliens. He is just wondering how to go about it. He can not give a blanket pardon. It has to be specific by individual name. He has a lot of work to do in order to get it done, and we all know he prefers to play or campaign than to do his work. I am sue he will find some staff to do all the foot work so he can just sign his name to it later.