Nationwide Concealed Carry

[jimbo2012]

Second Amendment Lives...Constitutional Right, Nationwide Concealed Carry

Hell yes! - Trump plan calls for nationwide concealed carry and an end to gun bans - The Washington Post

Trump plan calls for nationwide concealed carry and an end to gun bans - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/18/trump-plan-calls-for-nationwide-concealed-carry-and-an-end-to-gun-bans/)

[Don Baldwin]

Second Amendment Lives...Constitutional Right, Nationwide Concealed Carry

Hell yes! - Trump plan calls for nationwide concealed carry and an end to gun bans - The Washington Post

Trump plan calls for nationwide concealed carry and an end to gun bans - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/18/trump-plan-calls-for-nationwide-concealed-carry-and-an-end-to-gun-bans/)

An armed society is a polite society.

Citizens can defend themselves...slaves cannot.

[MDLNB]

Second Amendment Lives...Constitutional Right, Nationwide Concealed Carry

Hell yes! - Trump plan calls for nationwide concealed carry and an end to gun bans - The Washington Post

Trump plan calls for nationwide concealed carry and an end to gun bans - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/18/trump-plan-calls-for-nationwide-concealed-carry-and-an-end-to-gun-bans/)

That would be great. It would make traveling easier.

[autumnspring]

Second Amendment Lives...Constitutional Right, Nationwide Concealed Carry

Hell yes! - Trump plan calls for nationwide concealed carry and an end to gun bans - The Washington Post

Trump plan calls for nationwide concealed carry and an end to gun bans - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/18/trump-plan-calls-for-nationwide-concealed-carry-and-an-end-to-gun-bans/)

Would we then allow machine guns? Cannon?
SELF DEFENSE? Imagine a crowd such as an airport and some wannabe hero tries to shoot a ?????

Where to draw the line has always been the question.

[MDLNB]

Would we then allow machine guns? Cannon?
SELF DEFENSE? Imagine a crowd such as an airport and some wannabe hero tries to shoot a ?????

Where to draw the line has always been the question.

Many folks would think that common sense would prevail, but now that I read your comment, I can see a problem with that theory. Some folks get hysterical at the sound of "gun." Many of the uninformed or naive still think that when someone mentions a gun, they automatically picture a machine gun or cannon.

In case some do not know it, about 36 states will honor a resident FL CCW permit.

[billethkid]

Would we then allow machine guns? Cannon?
SELF DEFENSE? Imagine a crowd such as an airport and some wannabe hero tries to shoot a ?????

Where to draw the line has always been the question.

Maybe you could share with us what a cannon or machine gun discussion has to do with concealed carry other than perhaps to attempt to distract from the discussion.

[Paper1]

An armed society is a polite society.

Citizens can defend themselves...slaves cannot.

Yes that would be great, anyone with a body temperature around 98 carrying a concealed firearm. I fail to see where that makes society safer. Tell that to the family's of those armed police officers that were shot dead just sitting in their cars. We have too many Charles Bronson want to bes thinking more guns is what we need. IMO

[Don Baldwin]

Yes that would be great, anyone with a body temperature around 98 carrying a concealed firearm. I fail to see where that makes society safer. Tell that to the family's of those armed police officers that were shot dead just sitting in their cars. We have too many Charles Bronson want to bes thinking more guns is what we need. IMO

Tell them what? That minorities are dangerous? MOST cops killed are killed by MINORITIES and BLACKS are the biggest offenders.

Look here...the numbers speak for themselves...

FBI — Table 44 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/leoka/2013/tables/table_44_leos_fk_race_and_sex_of_known_offender_20 04-2013.xls)

Known offender Total 565
Race White 289
Black 243

These are numbers of police killed...and what race killed them. Hispanics as usual, are mixed in with white, there is no Hispanic breakdown. Almost half the police killed are killed by blacks, Hispanics are a close second. True whites, a distant 3rd.

[MDLNB]

Yes that would be great, anyone with a body temperature around 98 carrying a concealed firearm. I fail to see where that makes society safer. Tell that to the family's of those armed police officers that were shot dead just sitting in their cars. We have too many Charles Bronson want to bes thinking more guns is what we need. IMO

That's right, you "fail to see." Do you understand that having a nationwide CCW does not cause more to carry, but just to make it easier to understand the gun laws in this country from state to state? There would not be more people carrying, just more people carrying legally across state lines. Most states honor the CCW from other states, IF they have CCW in their own states. This would just clarify the gun laws and standardize gun carry laws and requirements nationally. I have been carrying concealed for many years and NO ONE knows it that I pass every day. There is no reason for people like you to panic at the thought. If anything, you should feel safer when you are out and about, knowing that someone might be there to protect you from crazies.

[ColdNoMore]

Just one more thing that proves Obama nailed it, when he said...

"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,"

[MDLNB]

Just one more thing that proves Obama nailed it, when he said...

"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,"

Obama is an idiot on his way out, with his only legacy being FAILURE. Once Obamacare is wiped out, Obama will be nothing more than a footnote in a liberal text book saying he was the first black president.

[billethkid]

Just one more thing that proves Obama nailed it, when he said...

"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,"

Does this political, biased comment apply to the thousands of blacks in the inner cities that are hunting and killing each other every day? At the head of the pile Illinois/Chicago.....with some of the strictest gun regulations in the country?

The simplest most impactful regulation that would make an immediate impact is the outlawing of blacks being allowed to own or be anywhere near a gun.

Not intended as a racist comment. Strictly looking at the factual gun killing statistics and reaching a very clear conclusion.

[ColdNoMore]

Does this political, biased comment apply to the thousands of blacks in the inner cities that are hunting and killing each other every day? At the head of the pile Illinois/Chicago.....with some of the strictest gun regulations in the country?

The simplest most impactful regulation that would make an immediate impact is the outlawing of blacks being allowed to own or be anywhere near a gun.

Not intended as a racist comment. Strictly looking at the factual gun killing statistics and reaching a very clear conclusion.

And you're a hypocritical liar.

Of course it's a blatant racist comment, given the number of gun crimes committed by whites also.

What I don't get is why you racists are loathe to admit what you are...when your statements show it so clearly? :ohdear:

[billethkid]

And you're a hypocritical liar.

Of course it's a blatant racist comment, given the number of gun crimes committed by whites also.

What I don't get is why you racists are loathe to admit what you are...when your statements show it so clearly? :ohdear:

The point was missed or ignored.

Fact: Chicago
Fact: murder capital of the world
Fact: most murders there are commited by blacks......with guns.......mostly killing other blacks.

While being facetious the undercurrent of the post was based on reality.

Tongue in cheek....if blacks with guns = the largest sources of violence and number of murders....it would logically follow that to take action against the highest probable cause would have the most immediate impact.....it is just so happens to be the perpetrators ARE BLACK .....tongue in cheek logic that happens to ring true.

Labeling an issue as racist just to twist an issue is what it is....partisan, BS!

[Allegiance]

Can't argue facts with liberals, they think Hillary won the election, yet it was a landslide mandate.

[Sandtrap328]

Concealed carry at college and professional sports events is another great idea.

:pepper2:

[Sandtrap328]

Personally, I am just waiting for someone to sit next to me at one of the bars here and accidentally let me see he is carrying.

I will be on my cell to call the Sheriff in the shake of a grain.

[Paper1]

That's right, you "fail to see." Do you understand that having a nationwide CCW does not cause more to carry, but just to make it easier to understand the gun laws in this country from state to state? There would not be more people carrying, just more people carrying legally across state lines. Most states honor the CCW from other states, IF they have CCW in their own states. This would just clarify the gun laws and standardize gun carry laws and requirements nationally. I have been carrying concealed for many years and NO ONE knows it that I pass every day. There is no reason for people like you to panic at the thought. If anything, you should feel safer when you are out and about, knowing that someone might be there to protect you from crazies.
A concealed weapon doesn't do you much good after you have already been shot. When everyone carries the bad guys will shoot first. That is the rub with being one of the good guys, bad guys will think nothing of killing you or your family.

[MDLNB]

Personally, I am just waiting for someone to sit next to me at one of the bars here and accidentally let me see he is carrying.

I will be on my cell to call the Sheriff in the shake of a grain.

Of course you will. Because you are a pu$$y. And you will be begging me to save your family when some dirtbag attempts to rob you and rape your women folk. Do us a favor and wear a sign that says "I am against the 2nd Amendment" so that I'll know not to bother with assisting you. You would probably take the side of the bad guy when it went to court anyway.

I have been carrying concealed for decades and no one has ever noticed it. You probably have folks in your family that carry concealed when they visit you in your home.

Don't worry, I'll protect your family for you if I happen to be around when the bad guy attempts to harm them.

[MDLNB]

A concealed weapon doesn't do you much good after you have already been shot. When everyone carries the bad guys will shoot first. That is the rub with being one of the good guys, bad guys will think nothing of killing you or your family.

Don't leave your home so you won't have to worry about it.

Why lock the doors to your home if the bad guys are going to get in anyway?

The problem with you liberals is that you take everything someone says to the extreme. No one said that if they have a National CCW permit that everyone would have to carry a gun. As a matter of fact there is nothing in it to suggest that any more people would be carrying than are now. Why do you on the left always panic when it comes to firearms?

[billethkid]

Personally, I am just waiting for someone to sit next to me at one of the bars here and accidentally let me see he is carrying.

I will be on my cell to call the Sheriff in the shake of a grain.

A little ambiguous to say the least.
If he let you see it (?????) then you can get your jollies and call the sheriff.

If you accidentally see it then just clam up and try to enjoy your drink.

Intent is the issue not what someone thinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sandtrap328]

Of course you will. Because you are a pu$$y.

...and your sorry a$$ is going to be sitting in jail for carrying where it is against the law!

[Sandtrap328]

A little ambiguous to say the least.
If he let you see it (?????) then you can get your jollies and call the sheriff.

If you accidentally see it then just clam up and try to enjoy your drink.

Intent is the issue not what someone thinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nope, it be against the law to carry in a bar. You be goin down.

[Allegiance]

Nope, it be against the law to carry in a bar. You be goin down.
Do you realize that you constantly theaten to drop a dime on your fellow villagers?

Just an observation.

Think about it.

Think about it hard.

[villagerjack]

If more folks clung to their guns and religion we would all be safer. Obamacare will go down as the worst President in history. Thank God this white hating President will soon be gone.

[MDLNB]

If more folks clung to their guns and religion we would all be safer. Obamacare will go down as the worst President in history. Thank God this white hating President will soon be gone.

:thumbup:

[MDLNB]

...and your sorry a$$ is going to be sitting in jail for carrying where it is against the law!

Not me, because I don't drink in bars. And I do not carry if I plan to even have one beer. Of course, I rarely consume any alcohol. I think that you are a crybaby that will scream bloody murder about how slow the cops respond when you need help. I am surprised that people like you have survived to this old age, as ignorant as you are.

[Don Baldwin]

Does this political, biased comment apply to the thousands of blacks in the inner cities that are hunting and killing each other every day? At the head of the pile Illinois/Chicago.....with some of the strictest gun regulations in the country?

The simplest most impactful regulation that would make an immediate impact is the outlawing of blacks being allowed to own or be anywhere near a gun.

Not intended as a racist comment. Strictly looking at the factual gun killing statistics and reaching a very clear conclusion.

I can think of other places/things they should be banned from too.

And you're a hypocritical liar.

Of course it's a blatant racist comment, given the number of gun crimes committed by whites also.

What I don't get is why you racists are loathe to admit what you are...when your statements show it so clearly? :ohdear:

Liberals can't read? go back and look at the numbers...blacks are more than 100% more violent than hispanics. 200% more than whites. It MAKES THE NEWS when a white guy shoots a place up...it doesn't when it's ANOTHER black guy is doing it in the inner city. There are "mass shootings" almost every day in the lack slums. VIOLENCE makes blacks poor, not the other way around as you're brainwashed into thinking.

I am a racist...for reason...they ARE different, they're NOT us. They're a genetic offshoot. As someone said...don't be mean to them...but don't artificially prop them up either. They're ALWAYS in over their head when we give them a quota, something like 80% of freshman college quota getters, drop out.

Concealed carry at college and professional sports events is another great idea.

:pepper2:

Why not? Could have saved lives, people are getting jumped because they don't have the "right" team colors. Like gang colors, people get killed over it. Wouldn't YOU want a "fair chance"? A weapon is an equalizer.

Who don't you trust? Minorities are usually the perpetrators because they LACK self control and they're impulsive.

Personally, I am just waiting for someone to sit next to me at one of the bars here and accidentally let me see he is carrying.

I will be on my cell to call the Sheriff in the shake of a grain.

Pussy. Unless he's drunk, aggressive, let him be. Should I LOOK for things to bust you on? Follow you with a camcorder catching you running a stop sign, touching the yellow line, 1mph over the speed limit.

You women, you sicken me with your holier than thou attitude when you're just as sleazy as everyone else. So judgemental. Always looking for fault. No wonder you all hate yourselves.

A concealed weapon doesn't do you much good after you have already been shot. When everyone carries the bad guys will shoot first. That is the rub with being one of the good guys, bad guys will think nothing of killing you or your family.

Women! When will you learn to think like a man? Logically... Unlike the movies and TV shows, unless you get a great head shot, people don't just drop to the ground dead. Most shooting victims bleed out. You can "easily" take them out too...which you should, stop the next guy from being shot by them.

Second, if EVERYONE is carrying and ONE bad guy starts shooting...how long do you think he's going to remain alive?

An armed society is a polite society.

Don't leave your home so you won't have to worry about it.

Why lock the doors to your home if the bad guys are going to get in anyway?

The problem with you liberals is that you take everything someone says to the extreme. No one said that if they have a National CCW permit that everyone would have to carry a gun. As a matter of fact there is nothing in it to suggest that any more people would be carrying than are now. Why do you on the left always panic when it comes to firearms?

Women panic...over a LOT. It's what they do, they think in emotions, we don't know what it's like, just like they don't know what it's like to think logically. Argue with a woman...tell me how it ends...frustration?

...and your sorry a$$ is going to be sitting in jail for carrying where it is against the law!

Nope, it be against the law to carry in a bar. You be goin down.

Do you realize that you constantly theaten to drop a dime on your fellow villagers?

Just an observation.

Think about it.

Think about it hard.

A woman...it's what they do...always looking out the window, wondering what EVERYONE else is doing, making sure everyone follows the rules.

If more folks clung to their guns and religion we would all be safer. Obamacare will go down as the worst President in history. Thank God this white hating President will soon be gone.

Keep your guns...lose the religion. Keep the golden rule, it's all you really need. treat everyone honestly.

Not me, because I don't drink in bars. And I do not carry if I plan to even have one beer. Of course, I rarely consume any alcohol. I think that you are a crybaby that will scream bloody murder about how slow the cops respond when you need help. I am surprised that people like you have survived to this old age, as ignorant as you are.

Her husband takes care of everything for her...that's how...like in most marriages. Then when the broken down husband, from years of back breaking labor, retires and grows feeble...they b!tch about it/him.

[Paper1]

Don't leave your home so you won't have to worry about it.

Why lock the doors to your home if the bad guys are going to get in anyway?

The problem with you liberals is that you take everything someone says to the extreme. No one said that if they have a National CCW permit that everyone would have to carry a gun. As a matter of fact there is nothing in it to suggest that any more people would be carrying than are now. Why do you on the left always panic when it comes to firearms?
First I'm not a lib, I just think it is much too easy for anyone to get a handgun. Reading between the lines I think you fancy yourself a Clint Eastwood type but are probably more a Barney Fife type.

[ColdNoMore]

Reading between the lines I think you fancy yourself a Clint Eastwood type but are probably more a Barney Fife type.


I think you read him perfectly. :1rotfl:

[Fredster]

First I'm not a lib, I just think it is much too easy for anyone to get a handgun. Reading between the lines I think you fancy yourself a Clint Eastwood type but are probably more a Barney Fife type.

You seem to be a person who speculates a lot without having first hand knowledge....
have you always been a know it all?

[MDLNB]

Keep your guns...lose the religion. Keep the golden rule, it's all you really need. treat everyone honestly.



The Golden Rule comes from the Bible, the religion that you wish to "lose."

Most of your laws are based on religious principles. Some day, you will realize it. But, then you would have to put aside your prejudice.

[MDLNB]

First I'm not a lib, I just think it is much too easy for anyone to get a handgun. Reading between the lines I think you fancy yourself a Clint Eastwood type but are probably more a Barney Fife type.

Clint Eastwood is a real person. Barney Fife is a fictitious character, dummy. I think you fancy yourself as smart, but you are not very convincing.

[MDLNB]

I think you read him perfectly. :1rotfl:

Hey CNM,.....pull my finger.....:a20:

[Don Baldwin]

The Golden Rule comes from the Bible, the religion that you wish to "lose."

Most of your laws are based on religious principles. Some day, you will realize it. But, then you would have to put aside your prejudice.

Treat others as you would wish to be treated isn't a "christian" invention. Are you kidding me? You religious people will believe ANYTHING.

Golden Rule Chronology (http://www.harryhiker.com/chronology.htm)

And yes, it's good enough, it's been around forever.

MOST of the laws are nothing but oppression. Business regulations. Tax laws.

What laws do you speak of that are "Christian"? Don't kill? Don't go for your neighbors wife because yours got fat? We idolize lots of things. We do have other "Gods". Please be specific if you're going to throw something like that out there.

[MDLNB]

Treat others as you would wish to be treated isn't a "christian" invention. Are you kidding me? You religious people will believe ANYTHING.

Golden Rule Chronology (http://www.harryhiker.com/chronology.htm)

And yes, it's good enough, it's been around forever.

MOST of the laws are nothing but oppression. Business regulations. Tax laws.

What laws do you speak of that are "Christian"? Don't kill? Don't go for your neighbors wife because yours got fat? We idolize lots of things. We do have other "Gods". Please be specific if you're going to throw something like that out there.

I bet you get called an idiot a lot. Actually, you probably have been called worst. And I bet you take pride when called a know-it-all.

Fred Flintstone....really??

Yes, the Golden Rule is attributed to Christ.
No, I did not say our laws are Christian. I said they are based on religious standards/principles. But, most of them are based on Judeo-Christian beliefs/principles. But, you are entitled to your "EXPERT" opinion. Because like CNM, you are surely a legend in your own mind.

One thing you DON'T live by is the Golden Rule. It is obvious by your racist, bigoted rants. But, no one is perfect, let alone myself.

[MDLNB]

Personally, I am just waiting for someone to sit next to me at one of the bars here and accidentally let me see he is carrying.

I will be on my cell to call the Sheriff in the shake of a grain.

Personally, I wish I knew who you are so that I could watch you sit at a bar and when you leave I could have the satisfaction of knowing that I could call the local constable and get you pulled over for DUI. I probably wouldn't, because I am not vindictive. But knowing that I could would be enough to know that I am a better person than you.

[larbud]

Personally, I wish I knew who you are so that I could watch you sit at a bar and when you leave I could have the satisfaction of knowing that I could call the local constable and get you pulled over for DUI. I probably wouldn't, because I am not vindictive. But knowing that I could would be enough to know that I am a better person than you.
You have a strange system of values...

[MDLNB]

You have a strange system of values...

Aww gee, you're giving me more credit than I deserve. :icon_wink:

[Don Baldwin]

I bet you get called an idiot a lot. Actually, you probably have been called worst. And I bet you take pride when called a know-it-all.

Fred Flintstone....really??

Yes, the Golden Rule is attributed to Christ.
No, I did not say our laws are Christian. I said they are based on religious standards/principles. But, most of them are based on Judeo-Christian beliefs/principles. But, you are entitled to your "EXPERT" opinion. Because like CNM, you are surely a legend in your own mind.

One thing you DON'T live by is the Golden Rule. It is obvious by your racist, bigoted rants. But, no one is perfect, let alone myself.

No...not quite, actually the opposite. No, in real life, I hold my tongue because people don't like being preached to...they'd rather live in blissful ignorance. Knowledge IS a curse..."God" was right to try to hide it.

It may be attributed to him, but he didn't make it up. He plagiarized if he claims it as his.

The difference between CNM and me...I'm usually right.

OK, enough with the personal sh!t...lets move on and TRY to DISCUSS the TOPIC...not the poster.

[Sandtrap328]

Personally, I wish I knew who you are so that I could watch you sit at a bar and when you leave I could have the satisfaction of knowing that I could call the local constable and get you pulled over for DUI. I probably wouldn't, because I am not vindictive. But knowing that I could would be enough to know that I am a better person than you.

No, you are not a better person than I am. However, I would not ever want to sit by you at a bar. I am sure you literally stink.