Two honest questions for Trump supporters

[debbieingigharbor]

1) Will it bother you if Trump does not show his tax returns and does not divest himself from his business interest to protect himself of any appearance of a conflict of interest?

2) Would you feel the same if Clinton had been elected and she didn't show her tax returns or divest herself from her business interests?

I'm just curious of your thought process. Thanks in advance for your response. If possible please keep your response civil. I am not attacking you or Trump.

[rustyp]

1) Will it bother you if Trump does not show his tax returns and does not divest himself from his business interest to protect himself of any appearance of a conflict of interest?

2) Would you feel the same if Clinton had been elected and she didn't show her tax returns or divest herself from her business interests?

I'm just curious of your thought process. Thanks in advance for your response. If possible please keep your response civil. I am not attacking you or Trump.

1. No
2. Yes

The law does not require disclosure of taxes or divestiture. If it does the democrats will take care of it for you. If you don't like it get the law changed but stop whining.

[janmcn]

1. No
2. Yes

The law does not require disclosure of taxes or divestiture. If it does the democrats will take care of it for you. If you don't like it get the law changed but stop whining.

A bill is being written to require all candidates to disclose their taxes. Unfortunately it cannot be retroactive requiring Trump to do the same. This has not been a concern in the past since all presidents have done this for the past 50 years, until Trump who skirts the law and protocols whenever he can.

Trump can only violate the constitution with the Republican party's permission. We'll see how long the law and order party will put up with his shenanigans.

[rustyp]

A bill is being written to require all candidates to disclose their taxes. Unfortunately it cannot be retroactive requiring Trump to do the same. This has not been a concern in the past since all presidents have done this for the past 50 years, until Trump who skirts the law and protocols whenever he can.

Trump can only violate the constitution with the Republican party's permission. We'll see how long the law and order party will put up with his shenanigans.

Exactly it is not the law !!!!!!!!

[janmcn]

Exactly it is not the law !!!!!!!!

Requiring tax returns is not the law, however accepting any gift from a foreign country is against the constitution and therefore an impeachable offense. Any foreign diplomat that stays at a Trump property (as long as Donald owns it) would be complicit in this violation.

[MDLNB]

1. No
2. Yes

The law does not require disclosure of taxes or divestiture. If it does the democrats will take care of it for you. If you don't like it get the law changed but stop whining.

:thumbup:

[MDLNB]

Requiring tax returns is not the law, however accepting any gift from a foreign country is against the constitution and therefore an impeachable offense. Any foreign diplomat that stays at a Trump property (as long as Donald owns it) would be complicit in this violation.

So what you are saying is that Hillary should be impeached, right? After all, as SecState her foundation accepted millions from foreigners wishing an audience with her. Or, is this considered another right wing conspiracy to you, to go along with all those obvious felonies she committed by purposely mishandling classified information?

Show me in the Constitution where accepting a gift from a foreign country is an impeachable offense. And is it a "gift" if it is business? A gift is accepting something with nothing in return expected. So, quit your whining and worry about something serious instead of your imagination. If this is the best you can do, then perhaps you should sit back and let others discuss politics.

[debbieingigharbor]

1. No
2. Yes

The law does not require disclosure of taxes or divestiture. If it does the democrats will take care of it for you. If you don't like it get the law changed but stop whining.

It was my post and I'm curious why the attitude? I didn't make a statement I just wanted to hear your view point.

Now my next question is were you concerned with Hillary's supposed "Pay to play" when it came to her charity? Lets see if you can answer the question without being so defensive.

[debbieingigharbor]

Wow, republicans are such hypocrites. If it's Hillary they want her locked up but with Trump it's "Hey, it's not against the law". How to you sleep at night? I mean after you pray to the alter of Trump/Putin.

[MDLNB]

1) Will it bother you if Trump does not show his tax returns and does not divest himself from his business interest to protect himself of any appearance of a conflict of interest?

2) Would you feel the same if Clinton had been elected and she didn't show her tax returns or divest herself from her business interests?

I'm just curious of your thought process. Thanks in advance for your response. If possible please keep your response civil. I am not attacking you or Trump.

NO, it will not bother me about Trump's tax returns. I am glad he did not release them. Too many politicians fall in lock step whenever something new is initiated, without question.

I would worry about Hillary's lost emails, a violation of federal law. I would worry about her foundation tax problems that she had to go back and amend five years worth of documentation. I would worry about her lying under oath. There are a whole lot of worries I would have about Hillary. Maybe others feel the same way and that is why she was not elected. I consider ALL Clintons to be scum, so I would not trust my government to any of them.

I consider anyone that supported Hillary to be blind and stupid. And that is me being kind.

[graciegirl]

Wow, republicans are such hypocrites. If it's Hillary they want her locked up but with Trump it's "Hey, it's not against the law". How to you sleep at night? I mean after you pray to the alter of Trump/Putin.

We won.

[MDLNB]

Wow, republicans are such hypocrites. If it's Hillary they want her locked up but with Trump it's "Hey, it's not against the law". How to you sleep at night? I mean after you pray to the alter of Trump/Putin.

We already know what laws Hitlery has committed. What laws has Trump committed that you want him indicted for?

Are you really that much of a crybaby about losing? I have never seen so many libtards crying at one time. Did you all really think that you had won the lottery with Hillary? You do realize that she could give a sh*t about you, right?

[rubicon]

1) Will it bother you if Trump does not show his tax returns and does not divest himself from his business interest to protect himself of any appearance of a conflict of interest?

2) Would you feel the same if Clinton had been elected and she didn't show her tax returns or divest herself from her business interests?

I'm just curious of your thought process. Thanks in advance for your response. If possible please keep your response civil. I am not attacking you or Trump.

1) No
2) Yes.
Now my turn. Please point to any career/ federal politician or czar who hasn't made a fortunate while in office and after leaving?
Do you believe these politicians all became rich without encountering conflicts of interest? Do you discount that quid pro quo agreements were struck while they were in office and now they all seem to land comfortable on their feet in very lucrative positions.

Trump is rich. His brand "Trump"is what he sells. How do you suppose he will be able to ever divest himself of his business since his name is known worldwide.. If he sold every last asset people will still believe that he has a conflict. He is a businessman and business is his business.

Now let's point to lawyer who are politicians and that most of what they legislate rewards their profession and hence them. Are there not continuing conflicts of interest such as implementing regulations leaving office and becoming a regulator or employed by a corporation to oversee the regulations you as legislator implemented?, etc etc etc

For God sake this nonsense going on about Trump amounts to two basic themes. Liberals lost and they can't handle it. And if they can't reverse the elections results then at least they can continue their agenda of diminishing the Trump presidency. Essentially liberals are willing to burn the entire house down to get their way

Personal Best Regards:

[Allegiance]

Let's look into the future and impeach Trump ahead of time.


Wait I did receive a message from the future, the Clintons are imprisoned.

Even further... Hillary has early release due to AP, bills due to AIDS.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920AZ using Tapatalk

[Don Baldwin]

1) No
2) Yes.
Now my turn. Please point to any career/ federal politician or czar who hasn't made a fortunate while in office and after leaving?
Do you believe these politicians all became rich without encountering conflicts of interest? Do you discount that quid pro quo agreements were struck while they were in office and now they all seem to land comfortable on their feet in very lucrative positions.

Trump is rich. His brand "Trump"is what he sells. How do you suppose he will be able to ever divest himself of his business since his name is known worldwide.. If he sold every last asset people will still believe that he has a conflict. He is a businessman and business is his business.

Now let's point to lawyer who are politicians and that most of what they legislate rewards their profession and hence them. Are there not continuing conflicts of interest such as implementing regulations leaving office and becoming a regulator or employed by a corporation to oversee the regulations you as legislator implemented?, etc etc etc

For God sake this nonsense going on about Trump amounts to two basic themes. Liberals lost and they can't handle it. And if they can't reverse the elections results then at least they can continue their agenda of diminishing the Trump presidency. Essentially liberals are willing to burn the entire house down to get their way

Personal Best Regards:

Like what you said...

I'll just add...the house is already burning...they started the fire in the 60s with civil rights laws that began the slow destruction of the nation. There's isn't much time before the point of no return...

[debbieingigharbor]

Wow, the nutjobs are out in force this afternoon.

[jimbo2012]

No and you should know he never will, there's no upside

He is exempt on #2

[Cedwards38]

So what you are saying is that Hillary should be impeached, right? After all, as SecState her foundation accepted millions from foreigners wishing an audience with her. Or, is this considered another right wing conspiracy to you, to go along with all those obvious felonies she committed by purposely mishandling classified information?

Show me in the Constitution where accepting a gift from a foreign country is an impeachable offense. And is it a "gift" if it is business? A gift is accepting something with nothing in return expected. So, quit your whining and worry about something serious instead of your imagination. If this is the best you can do, then perhaps you should sit back and let others discuss politics.

US Constitution, Article 1, Section 9:

"No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state."

[rubicon]

Like what you said...

I'll just add...the house is already burning...they started the fire in the 60s with civil rights laws that began the slow destruction of the nation. There's isn't much time before the point of no return...

Unfortunately you are correct and the would be Abby Hoffman's migrated to our educational institutes entertainment ,etc where they have greater voice . And this craziness has gone on so long that people think its normal. We see the incarnation of Abby Hoffman in the Michael Moore's of this nation.

If Trump's only accomplishment is succeeding in breaking this nation free of the politically correct hold liberal elitist have then we have a chance of returning our nation from one run by their chosen/designated collectives to one run by individual thought and freedoms

Personal Best Regards:

[debbieingigharbor]

[QUOTE=Guest]So what you are saying is that Hillary should be impeached, right? After all, as SecState her foundation accepted millions from foreigners wishing an audience with her. Or, is this considered another right wing conspiracy to you, to go along with all those obvious felonies she committed by purposely mishandling classified information?

I wasn't saying anything. I just wanted your opinion. Wow, a little defensive huh? FYI; Hillary has a charitable foundation. The Clintons didn't take a dime (unless you can prove they did).

I just wanted to see how you Trump/Putin supporters were going to spin this. It's called "Cognitive dissonance". Look it up.

[rjm1cc]

1) Will it bother you if Trump does not show his tax returns and does not divest himself from his business interest to protect himself of any appearance of a conflict of interest?

2) Would you feel the same if Clinton had been elected and she didn't show her tax returns or divest herself from her business interests?

I'm just curious of your thought process. Thanks in advance for your response. If possible please keep your response civil. I am not attacking you or Trump.

Good question. The answer is No and Yes.
The financial disclosures filed were sufficient. The reason for the tax return was to say since he followed the law and got tax breaks he should not be elected. The tax returns does not provide most of the information people said was missing. But it would show that he probably did not pay taxes due to depreciation on his real estate.
Divesture is harder. You are taking a successful person and saying you have to sell all your assets (in his case in a fire sale) and pay millions in taxes. Not particle.
For Hillary I would expect her tax return not to use a lot of tax saving ideas but it does show sources of income that should make you wonder how she could generate that type and amount. But the real reason I would want to see it is her and her husbands history of bending the law.
I know I ran for a local office and some people want to see my tax return. Did not see why I had to tell all my neighbors how much I earned etc to take an unpaid elected office. However I did say I did not own any of the business that dealt with the office. My tax return would not have shown if I owned any of these companies as the interest would have be consolidated on a brokers 1099 on my tax return.

[ColdNoMore]

I just wanted to see how you Trump/Putin supporters were going to spin this. It's called "Cognitive dissonance". Look it up.

It's darned decent of you to spell it for them...or they would have otherwise been totally clueless. :ohdear:

[rustyp]

It was my post and I'm curious why the attitude? I didn't make a statement I just wanted to hear your view point.

Now my next question is were you concerned with Hillary's supposed "Pay to play" when it came to her charity? Lets see if you can answer the question without being so defensive.

I am concerned about a lot of things. That does not mean if I don't like something I have a right to lynch someone. It is either against the law or it isn't. And even if the law is ridiculous thankfully the system is change the law and then enforce it forward not backwards to fit a situation someone did not like.

I am all for enforcement of the law. I am against anyone who did not like the outcome or the media trying to prolong an audience by trying to sidestep the law even under the disguise of moral ethics etc. I totally despise anyone especially lawyers gaining financial reward for giving false hope to an obvious situation. I am all for changing the law the proper way if it is the will of the people not a political party. To even consider making a law retroactive would fly directly in the face of democracy in my book. Following up with another question illustrating if the shoe were on the other foot won't change my position.

[MDLNB]

US Constitution, Article 1, Section 9:

"No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state."

So, Hillary should be impeached for accepting "donations" (gifts) from foreign countries. OK, that works for me.

Trump is not sworn in yet and payment for service (ie. hotel accommodations) is not considered a gift. I would suggest that you go ahead with impeachment of Obama and CLinton before worrying about predicting offenses that MIGHT be perpetrated in the future.

[MDLNB]

It's darned decent of you to spell it for them...or they would have otherwise been totally clueless. :ohdear:

Naw, to be clueless would be lowering our standard to CNMs.

Hey.........pull my finger.............:boom:

[debbieingigharbor]

Good question. The answer is No and Yes.
The financial disclosures filed were sufficient. The reason for the tax return was to say since he followed the law and got tax breaks he should not be elected. The tax returns does not provide most of the information people said was missing. But it would show that he probably did not pay taxes due to depreciation on his real estate.
Divesture is harder. You are taking a successful person and saying you have to sell all your assets (in his case in a fire sale) and pay millions in taxes. Not particle.
For Hillary I would expect her tax return not to use a lot of tax saving ideas but it does show sources of income that should make you wonder how she could generate that type and amount. But the real reason I would want to see it is her and her husbands history of bending the law.
I know I ran for a local office and some people want to see my tax return. Did not see why I had to tell all my neighbors how much I earned etc to take an unpaid elected office. However I did say I did not own any of the business that dealt with the office. My tax return would not have shown if I owned any of these companies as the interest would have be consolidated on a brokers 1099 on my tax return.

I can see where you are/were a politician. You can justify anything that fits with your agenda/double standard. Not sure why you are not interested in seeing his tax returns? We already know he didn't pay taxes because someone leaked that. I want to see what his dealings are with Russia. There has to be a reason he is sucking up to Putin.

[Rockyrd]

I can see where you are/were a politician. You can justify anything that fits with your agenda/double standard. Not sure why you are not interested in seeing his tax returns? We already know he didn't pay taxes because someone leaked that. I want to see what his dealings are with Russia. There has to be a reason he is sucking up to Putin.

EXACTLY...how much he paid, etc means nothing.

He IS in debt in Russia, and Turkey. He is an associate of some Russians. We do not know WHO, HOW MUCH he owes. He HAS associated with Russian criminals..he HAS associated with countries who support terrorism, and fringe terrorist ground.

Does he still owe them..how much.....

[jimbo2012]

EXACTLY...how much he paid, etc means nothing.

He IS in debt in Russia, and Turkey. He is an associate of some Russians. We do not know WHO, HOW MUCH he owes. He HAS associated with Russian criminals..he HAS associated with countries who support terrorism, and fringe terrorist ground.

Does he still owe them..how much.....

First of all most non business owners don't understand how he didn't pay taxes or why it exists under the IRS NOL rule.

He only didn't pay tax until the NOL was used up, that doesn't mean he didn't pay for 20 years he could have used it up in 5 or 8 what ever it's 100% on the up & up

The Russian BS is really getting tied, MSM don't even talk about anymore.

So stop regurgitating that crap

[Alibaba]

Trump is our candidate because of the ignorant, dumb and blind racists that occupy the right.

[Chi-Town]

First of all most non business owners don't understand how he didn't pay taxes or why it exists under the IRS NOL rule.

He only didn't pay tax until the NOL was used up, that doesn't mean he didn't pay for 20 years he could have used it up in 5 or 8 what ever it's 100% on the up & up

The Russian BS is really getting tied, MSM don't even talk about anymore.

So stop regurgitating that crap
J-Bo, if you stopped regurgitating crap you would be a mute.

Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk

[janmcn]

[QUOTE=Guest]So what you are saying is that Hillary should be impeached, right? After all, as SecState her foundation accepted millions from foreigners wishing an audience with her. Or, is this considered another right wing conspiracy to you, to go along with all those obvious felonies she committed by purposely mishandling classified information?

I wasn't saying anything. I just wanted your opinion. Wow, a little defensive huh? FYI; Hillary has a charitable foundation. The Clintons didn't take a dime (unless you can prove they did).

I just wanted to see how you Trump/Putin supporters were going to spin this. It's called "Cognitive dissonance". Look it up.


The only foundation that has been shut down by NY AG Schneiderman for fraudulent practices is the Donald J Trump foundation. It seems that Trump was soliciting donations from others and using the money for his personal expenses, ie legal expenses.

The Clinton Foundation is alive and well and doing good throughout the world.

The Trump Foundation was shut down just prior to Trump paying a 25 million dollar fine for more fraudulent practices, this time at his now debunked Trump University.

What an example Trump sets as future leader of the free world.

[ColdNoMore]

EXACTLY...how much he paid, etc means nothing.

He IS in debt in Russia, and Turkey. He is an associate of some Russians. We do not know WHO, HOW MUCH he owes. He HAS associated with Russian criminals..he HAS associated with countries who support terrorism, and fringe terrorist ground.

Does he still owe them..how much.....

THAT is the issue in a nutshell.

I'm starting to believe however, that even if proof was found that he is indebted to these nations and if he were to give them undue consideration and access to this country's secrets in the future...that Trumpsters wouldn't even really care.

About the only thing that Chump has said that isn't a lie, is that he could "stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody...and still not lose voters."

Let that sink in for a minute you Trump supporters and then point to a parallel from ANY candidate, for ANY office...EVER. :ohdear:

[MDLNB]

THAT is the issue in a nutshell.

I'm starting to believe however, that even if proof was found that he is indebted to these nations and if he were to give them undue consideration and access to this country's secrets in the future...that Trumpsters wouldn't even really care.

About the only thing that Chump has said that isn't a lie, is that he could "stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody...and still not lose voters."

Let that sink in for a minute you Trump supporters and then point to a parallel from ANY candidate, for ANY office...EVER. :ohdear:

I'm fine with Trump as president. Much better than crooked Hillary the felon and that duffus with no experience, the racist Obama.

How long do you suppose it will be before the whiners on here are able to move on. Trump won, Hillary lost so you don't get your way this time. Wait 4 years and try again. But, you might want to find someone other than that tired old two time loser. Joe Manchin would make a good Democrat president. He's kind of middle of the road and could possibly get some conservatives to vote for him.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Tax returns are, and should be, a private matter. I don't know when this idea of presidential candidates making their tax returns public, but it should stop now.

Is there any other job where an applicant is required to show his or her tax returns?

They are pretty much irrelevant and are only used by the opposition as gotcha material.

Trump probably paid no income tax. So what? He had legitimate deductions to balance off his income. Are people aware of the multitude of other taxes that he paid? Does anyone consider that someone in his positions is responsible for hundreds of millions in payrolls tax. He is also responsible for employing over 34,000 people and those people pay taxes.

He has a number of corporations that pay corporate taxes.

He is probably responsible for more government revenue that all three Clintons combined.

Tax returns are yet another politicized issue that are meaningless.

[jimbo2012]

I'm starting to believe however, that even if proof was found that he is indebted to these nations and if he were to give them undue consideration and access to this country's secrets in the future...that Trumpsters wouldn't even really care.



Half the country didn't care HRC gave away our top secrets, it's a fact she did.

Trump never did

Ask your self this question.

Why wasn't the republican party hacked into?



.

[ColdNoMore]

Half the country didn't care HRC gave away our top secrets, it's a fact she did.
What 'top secret' info did she give away?





Ask your self this question.

Why wasn't the republican party hacked into?

Are you really that ignorant?

Since we know the Russians hacked both, but only released the Dem's...even someone like yourself should be able to figure out their intentions. :oops:

US intel reveals clues that Russia hacked groups to help Trump - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/12/politics/gop-russia-hacking-trump/)


Since most of the GOP material was not released, whereas the emails of Democratic Party groups and officials were made public, the intelligence community has growing confidence that hacking of US entities was meant to steer the US election toward Trump.

[jimbo2012]

No dumbbell, thought one of you would say that the fact is only three emails were hacked.

those three were not published by Wikileaks, they had no content of interest.

Why only three and not thousands like the stupid Dems?

easy, the dems with all their money never had a built a tight firewall to protect their data, more importantly they failed to monitor it.

Even with a weak firewall you get get alerts.

Pi*s poor IT company they hired.

The RNC and Trump team built good firewalls and monitored them.


Posting police warning the source is in the text:police::police::police:

According to the CIA version of the Russian hacking story, both the DNC and RNC were hacked into but only the DNC’s info was used, making them believe that the Russians were trying to sway the election toward Donald Trump. On Friday the Wall Street Journal reported that the Russians (if it was the Russians) tried to invade the Republican’s system also, but the techniques that punched into the Democratic Party’s network didn’t work on the GOP.


Team Trump knows how to hire the best at everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[debbieingigharbor]

Tax returns are, and should be, a private matter. I don't know when this idea of presidential candidates making their tax returns public, but it should stop now.

Is there any other job where an applicant is required to show his or her tax returns?

They are pretty much irrelevant and are only used by the opposition as gotcha material.

Trump probably paid no income tax. So what? He had legitimate deductions to balance off his income. Are people aware of the multitude of other taxes that he paid? Does anyone consider that someone in his positions is responsible for hundreds of millions in payrolls tax. He is also responsible for employing over 34,000 people and those people pay taxes.

He has a number of corporations that pay corporate taxes.

He is probably responsible for more government revenue that all three Clintons combined.

Tax returns are yet another politicized issue that are meaningless.

The reason both republican and democratic candidates showed them is to demonstrate they wouldn't have any conflict of interests. Something you knew but for some reason wanted to overlook.

If he owed large amounts of money to Russia could it be an issue for you? I'm thinking now. Because he will make America great again. You know that because.............he said so?

If Hillary didn't show her taxes would you have said the same? Come on now..... tell the truth. It'll hurt for only a little while. :a20:

[debbieingigharbor]

Half the country didn't care HRC gave away our top secrets, it's a fact she did.

Trump never did

Ask your self this question.

Why wasn't the republican party hacked into?



.


Half the country didn't care HRC gave away our top secrets, it's a fact she did? Care to show some evidence? How can you say such a foolish thing? Are you not embarrassed when people laugh at you for saying these bogus claims. STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS!!! Get a clue.

[MDLNB]

Half the country didn't care HRC gave away our top secrets, it's a fact she did? Care to show some evidence? How can you say such a foolish thing? Are you not embarrassed when people laugh at you for saying these bogus claims. STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS!!! Get a clue.

Aren't you embarrassed to suggest that HIllary did not commit crimes against our national security, when she admitted under oath to illegally doing her gov business on a private server? Have you never seen or read any of her emails that have been posted all over the Internet? Are you really that stupid?

[Cedwards38]

Half the country didn't care HRC gave away our top secrets, it's a fact she did.

Trump never did

Ask your self this question.

Why wasn't the republican party hacked into?



.

We, including you, don't really know what half the country thinks, but we know what half the voters think, and actually more than half of them voted for Secretary Clinton.

The Republican Party was hacked but the information was never used because the Russian hackers and Putin clearly were attempting to influence the American election in favor of Trump because he has a bromance for Putin.

[janmcn]

Tax returns are, and should be, a private matter. I don't know when this idea of presidential candidates making their tax returns public, but it should stop now.

Is there any other job where an applicant is required to show his or her tax returns?

They are pretty much irrelevant and are only used by the opposition as gotcha material.

Trump probably paid no income tax. So what? He had legitimate deductions to balance off his income. Are people aware of the multitude of other taxes that he paid? Does anyone consider that someone in his positions is responsible for hundreds of millions in payrolls tax. He is also responsible for employing over 34,000 people and those people pay taxes.

He has a number of corporations that pay corporate taxes.

He is probably responsible for more government revenue that all three Clintons combined.

Tax returns are yet another politicized issue that are meaningless.


Every job applicant Trump is talking to is being asked to provide copies of their tax returns, including VP Pence.

[Cedwards38]

Today Trump, in his most informative form of communication, the tweet, said the actions of the Chinese was "unpresidented." I guess they didn't teach vocabulary and spelling at the University of Pennsylvania. It's like watching a continuous moronic reality TV show leading our government. Wait, he is a reality TV guy isn't he?

[Rockyrd]

Today Trump, in his most informative form of communication, the tweet, said the actions of the Chinese was "unpresidented." I guess they didn't teach vocabulary and spelling at the University of Pennsylvania. It's like watching a continuous moronic reality TV show leading our government. Wait, he is a reality TV guy isn't he?

I would much prefer that over tweeting about a Vanity Fair food critic who didn't like one of his restaurants. This is ngrained in my head because at the time , all the networks were covering the children trapped in Aleppo and I just wondered where his head is.

[MDLNB]

We, including you, don't really know what half the country thinks, but we know what half the voters think, and actually more than half of them voted for Secretary Clinton.

The Republican Party was hacked but the information was never used because the Russian hackers and Putin clearly were attempting to influence the American election in favor of Trump because he has a bromance for Putin.

No, more than half the country voted for Trump. You are assuming that because of a few very populated liberal states of high density, voted for Hillary that this constitutes more than half the country. An overwhelming amount of states voted for Trump and now the electors need to do their jobs for the people of those states and vote for Trump on Monday. And they will if they know what is good for them. I would hate to be any of the ones that might deviate from that procedure and vote based on JUST their own preference. They might as well run to another country if they vote for someone other than Trump when the people of that state voted for him by majority.

How many states did Hillary win? A small portion. Trump ate her lunch. And he worked hard for it, to her slack and lazy attitude. Hillary thought that she would win by cheating and it did not work. She LOST.

[Rockyrd]

No, more than half the country voted for Trump. You are assuming that because of a few very populated liberal states of high density, voted for Hillary that this constitutes more than half the country. An overwhelming amount of states voted for Trump and now the electors need to do their jobs for the people of those states and vote for Trump on Monday. And they will if they know what is good for them. I would hate to be any of the ones that might deviate from that procedure and vote based on JUST their own preference. They might as well run to another country if they vote for someone other than Trump when the people of that state voted for him by majority.

How many states did Hillary win? A small portion. Trump ate her lunch. And he worked hard for it, to her slack and lazy attitude. Hillary thought that she would win by cheating and it did not work. She LOST.

Is this the new math ? 😀

The freakin election is over. He won the electoral college..she won the popular.

He is President...for golly sake forget it..time to govern. Are you going to discuss this until next election and ignore all around you ?

[rustyp]

Can you say sour grapes - FYI I think both Hillary and Donald were terrible choices. Once again voting for the lesser of two evils. But I did get a good education about primary elections. I did vote in the primary but never quite realized the importance of it as compared to the actual presidential election. I hope a lot of other people got an education about how important that vote is. I won't miss voting in another primary for the rest of my life. Sometimes you have to look into the mirror to find the guilty party.

[rubicon]

What 'top secret' info did she give away?







Are you really that ignorant?

Since we know the Russians hacked both, but only released the Dem's...even someone like yourself should be able to figure out their intentions. :oops:

US intel reveals clues that Russia hacked groups to help Trump - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/12/politics/gop-russia-hacking-trump/)

Hacked is being utilized by the left as a head fake. Hillary and the gang need to look inward and come to terms as to why the progressive lost and lost big time....but they can't

There are some 3,000 + counties in this nation. Hillary took about 54 counties mostly in dense populations of California and New York . The rest belonged to Trump. Apparently those flyover blue collar, uneducated catholics, and assortment of deplorables counties believed the country was going in the wrong direction and wanted a correction change

I suspect that progressives will be unrelenting in their inability to accept loss feeling they have been scorned by the majority. I suspect to witness unnecessary and quasi-anarchy at every turn of events during Trump's presidency. Its absolutely appalling behavior by progressive and might I add childish . And what I described is what we are all witnessing everyday. so my words are not judgment but simply recitation of such witnessed behavior.

Personal Best Regards:

[debbieingigharbor]

Hacked is being utilized by the left as a head fake. Hillary and the gang need to look inward and come to terms as to why the progressive lost and lost big time....but they can't

There are some 3,000 + counties in this nation. Hillary took about 54 counties mostly in dense populations of California and New York . The rest belonged to Trump. Apparently those flyover blue collar, uneducated catholics, and assortment of deplorables counties believed the country was going in the wrong direction and wanted a correction change

I suspect that progressives will be unrelenting in their inability to accept loss feeling they have been scorned by the majority. I suspect to witness unnecessary and quasi-anarchy at every turn of events during Trump's presidency. Its absolutely appalling behavior by progressive and might I add childish . And what I described is what we are all witnessing everyday. so my words are not judgment but simply recitation of such witnessed behavior.

Personal Best Regards:

You mean like how republicans treated our first black president?

[Warren Kiefer]

1. No
2. Yes

The law does not require disclosure of taxes or divestiture. If it does the democrats will take care of it for you. If you don't like it get the law changed but stop whining.

Republicans really don't want Trump to disclose his taxes. They know it would destroy the moron.

[Warren Kiefer]

No, more than half the country voted for Trump. You are assuming that because of a few very populated liberal states of high density, voted for Hillary that this constitutes more than half the country. An overwhelming amount of states voted for Trump and now the electors need to do their jobs for the people of those states and vote for Trump on Monday. And they will if they know what is good for them. I would hate to be any of the ones that might deviate from that procedure and vote based on JUST their own preference. They might as well run to another country if they vote for someone other than Trump when the people of that state voted for him by majority.

How many states did Hillary win? A small portion. Trump ate her lunch. And he worked hard for it, to her slack and lazy attitude. Hillary thought that she would win by cheating and it did not work. She LOST.

Try as you may to be stupid, Hillary actually got more votes than Trump !!!

[ColdNoMore]

Hacked is being utilized by the left as a head fake. Hillary and the gang need to look inward and come to terms as to why the progressive lost and lost big time....but they can't
Trump won by one of the smaller electoral college margins in recent history...and lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

Trump Landslide? Nope - FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/trump-landslide-nope/)

John Pitney, a professor of American Politics at Claremont McKenna College, put together a chart showing the Electoral College share won by every president since George Washington and found that Trump’s margin of victory ranked 46th out of 58 U.S. presidential elections. (You can view the whole list below.)

Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight also looked at Trump’s victory in historical context and concluded it was “a bit Orwellian to call it a ‘landslide’ or a ‘blowout.'”

Silver found that the percentage of electoral vote won by Trump — 56.9 percent — was well below the historical average, 70.9 percent. Silver found that Trump’s share of electoral votes ranked 44th out of 54 elections going back to 1804.

This is exactly the kind of chit I talked about earlier regarding your lying, where you give your opinion...and expect others to take it as fact. :ohdear:





There are some 3,000 + counties in this nation. Hillary took about 54 counties mostly in dense populations of California and New York . The rest belonged to Trump. Apparently those flyover blue collar, uneducated catholics, and assortment of deplorables counties believed the country was going in the wrong direction and wanted a correction change
Another instance where you once again lie...and expect others to believe you. :oops:

No wonder you are allergic to providing proof to your pronouncements, as they are not only false...but would make you look as ignorant as you are.

Trump Won 3,084 of 3,141 Counties, Clinton Won 57 : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/)

Even if you count only 17 states (Breitbart's ten and an additional seven), Clinton won 164 counties in those 17. Even without accounting for the other 33 states, the claim that Trump won all but 57 of America's 3,141 counties appeared to be completely untrue.




I suspect that progressives will be unrelenting in their inability to accept loss feeling they have been scorned by the majority.
Let me repeat for you once again, since you seem to be stuck in fantasy land...the MAJORITY of Americans voted for Clinton.

I know you and your ilk choke on that fact every single day, but most of us accept the fact that Trump won the electoral college (by a relatively small margin) and that our system is set up so that is the way our POTUS is determined.

And no one is claiming that Putin actually hacked into voting machines, so there is no question that those electoral votes are legitimate...and Trump will be the next POTUS.

The sad part is that so many of you and your deplorable mob don't seem to have any problem with Putin leaking only Dem e-mails, in an attempt to sway the independent and swing voters.

On any other issue of this magnitude, y'all would be screeching about how Russia was manipulating our political system, meddling in our affairs and it is an act of war, but this time you are total hypocrites and stand mute... simply because your guy won.

So don't ever state that you are a patriotic American, because the proof (yeah proof, not just my opinion)...proves otherwise.




I suspect to witness unnecessary and quasi-anarchy at every turn of events during Trump's presidency. Its absolutely appalling behavior by progressive and might I add childish . And what I described is what we are all witnessing everyday. so my words are not judgment but simply recitation of such witnessed behavior.

Personal Best Regards:

Given your batting average of the truth in this post alone, no person with even a modicum of intelligence... should believe a single one of your 'opinions.'

But, I'll bet that being so publicly being proved wrong doesn't even slow you down in your continued effort to spout your opinions as facts...and hope people actually believe them to be true. :wave:

[ColdNoMore]

Try as you may to be stupid,

It's become very obvious, that he's not "trying"..he really is ignorant.




Hillary actually got more votes than Trump !!!
Shhh, that fact is eating the right up from the inside...every single day.

[debbieingigharbor]

It's become very obvious, that he's not "trying"..he really is ignorant.





Shhh, that fact is eating the right up from the inside...every single day.

I disagree. I don't think facts have any value to the right.

[mtdjed]

Hillary got more votes. Whoopee and congratulations. Trump got more electoral votes.

Your team got more hits. My team got more runs. Guess who won? Perhaps the team that was more in tune to what the rules of the game were.

[janmcn]

Hillary got more votes. Whoopee and congratulations. Trump got more electoral votes.

Your team got more hits. My team got more runs. Guess who won? Perhaps the team that was more in tune to what the rules of the game were.


The best thing about Trump winning the election is he is going to be so busy governing that we won't hear much from him, except for his moronic tweets.

He is taking office at one of the most dangerous times in world history. He has all that to deal with plus all the domestic issues he promised to change.

Did anyone tell Trump that TV cameras are not routinely allowed in the West Wing? He will be buried deep in the bowels of the White House.

[Rockyrd]

I disagree. I don't think facts have any value to the right.

You are right.

Our President Elect does not acknowledge it ever even happened, although every security group does.

Our Secretary of State nominee says we should lift all those doggone restrictions from Russia...those poor guys.

And you know what....who cares if our President may be deeply in debt to Russia

Our President elect has gone after almost EVERY country EXCEPT Russia since the inception of his candidacy.

And heck, letting facts get in the way....lift those restrictions, hug that Putin guy....



"In several former Soviet republics, top security officials and even a former president are saying "I told you so" amid allegations of possible Russian hacking targeting the US presidential election campaign"

""In 2012, they (Russia) were heavily involved in Georgian elections. They've done cyber attacks over different time periods. They've done all kinds of media provocations.They've spread rumors. They've sent operatives to do all kinds of dirty tricks. And back then my friends from the US Embassy were saying 'you're over-reacting,'" added Saakashvili, who served two consecutive terms as president in Georgia before stepping down in 2013."

Ex-Soviet states warned US of Russian hacks - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/16/politics/russia-hacking-allegations-mikheil-saakashvili/)

Just keep reading those far out pro Russian web sites and plagerizing them on TOTV....might be your news.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

EXACTLY...how much he paid, etc means nothing.

He IS in debt in Russia, and Turkey. He is an associate of some Russians. We do not know WHO, HOW MUCH he owes. He HAS associated with Russian criminals..he HAS associated with countries who support terrorism, and fringe terrorist ground.

Does he still owe them..how much.....

His tax returns would not show any specific dealings. He did release a business statement that shows all of that.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Trump is our candidate because of the ignorant, dumb and blind racists that occupy the right.

Another wonderful liberal who believes in inclusiveness, open mindedness and uniting everyone.

[debbieingigharbor]

Hillary got more votes. Whoopee and congratulations. Trump got more electoral votes.

Your team got more hits. My team got more runs. Guess who won? Perhaps the team that was more in tune to what the rules of the game were.

I think democrats point to the fact that Hillary had more people vote for her in reference to the idiot Trump saying he won in a landslide and he has some type of mandate. No honest person would suggest such a stupid thing.

Now, remember, I said "honest".

[billethkid]

The best thing about Trump winning the election is he is going to be so busy governing that we won't hear much from him, except for his moronic tweets.

He is taking office at one of the most dangerous times in world history. He has all that to deal with plus all the domestic issues he promised to change.

Did anyone tell Trump that TV cameras are not routinely allowed in the West Wing? He will be buried deep in the bowels of the White House.

If he only has the same access and daily coverage Obama managed to have time for there will be no problem.
Obama had no problem being in the eye of a camera or a microphone several times a day.
Of course he wasn't working on anything and he did have the time, especially if it was race based event/incident or stumping for Clinton/loser.

[debbieingigharbor]

Another wonderful liberal who believes in inclusiveness, open mindedness and uniting everyone.

So liberals should not speak out against racism, sexism, fear mongering? I'm sure that would suit you just fine.

[debbieingigharbor]

If he only has the same access and daily coverage Obama managed to have time for there will be no problem.
Obama had no problem being in the eye of a camera or a microphone several times a day.
Of course he wasn't working on anything and he did have the time, especially if it was race based event/incident or stumping for Clinton/loser.

You mean like Obama holding press conferences and answering questions from the press? You mean like when Obama held a debate with republicans that was aired on tv? I'm sure Trump will have the courage to do the same and answer the tough questions (please note the sarcasm).:1rotfl:

[Rockyrd]

His tax returns would not show any specific dealings. He did release a business statement that shows all of that.

Afraid that you are 100% wrong.

[dillywho]

I don't care about his tax returns. Apparently, he has followed the law and taken advantage of all it has allowed. Everyone who files taxes does the same thing....all of us. Otherwise, we would not take ANY deductions, itemized or standard. Does anyone really think that the IRS would not be chiming in long before now, if something were really amiss?

What I do care about is MY country. I want to see us SAFE, most of all. Then comes prosperous. We need to LEAD once again and keep this the country so many others desire. I want to see us take care of our own FIRST. We have too many children in our own country that are hungry everyday. We need to make it so that unloved, unwanted, orphaned, or unplanned children in this country are able to be adopted without all the red tape and outrageous financial obstacles. Many, many children grow up to be outstanding citizens without having been brought up with lots of money. It's not about the money; it's about the parenting and love.

I care about how he leads.

[janmcn]

If he only has the same access and daily coverage Obama managed to have time for there will be no problem.
Obama had no problem being in the eye of a camera or a microphone several times a day.
Of course he wasn't working on anything and he did have the time, especially if it was race based event/incident or stumping for Clinton/loser.


In case you haven't noticed, when Obama speaks it is either in the Rose Garden in front of the White House press or in the White House press room, also in front of the White House press, followed by questions. We all know how much Trump loves this back and forth with the press. BTW, he hasn't had a formal press conference since July.

[Don Baldwin]

So liberals should not speak out against racism, sexism, fear mongering? I'm sure that would suit you just fine.

You can speak all you want...what you can't/shouldn't do is make LAWS that "help" them...with quotas...that discriminates against EVERYONE who actually earned a place.

50 years we've been propping them up, giving them EVERY advantage...it's gotten them and us, nowhere. Actually, it got a few of them in over their head and it's caused the national rankings to fall from #1 to #25.

They're NOT us...they'll never be us...they can't do what we do. Just like you can't do what your husband does/did. If he's ANY kind of a man, he did/could have kicked your butt in EVERYTHING you did. Am I right? Sports, strength, coordination, driving...he is probably smarter too. It's the way nature MADE US...stop fighting it...the longer you do, the more we lose. Same with race...they're NOT us and they won't be for 50,000 years IF they're lucky. I think they're a separate genetic branch and IF "whites" had found them when we found the Neanderthals, they'd be gone today too. Nobody knew the blacks were there until less than about 2,000 years ago. They've been enslaved ever since. WHY? Why is this ONE race ALWAYS at the bottom if they're really "equal"?

I don't care about his tax returns. Apparently, he has followed the law and taken advantage of all it has allowed. Everyone who files taxes does the same thing....all of us. Otherwise, we would not take ANY deductions, itemized or standard. Does anyone really think that the IRS would not be chiming in long before now, if something were really amiss?

What I do care about is MY country. I want to see us SAFE, most of all. Then comes prosperous. We need to LEAD once again and keep this the country so many others desire. I want to see us take care of our own FIRST. We have too many children in our own country that are hungry everyday. We need to make it so that unloved, unwanted, orphaned, or unplanned children in this country are able to be adopted without all the red tape and outrageous financial obstacles. Many, many children grow up to be outstanding citizens without having been brought up with lots of money. It's not about the money; it's about the parenting and love.

I care about how he leads.

Typical woman comment...it proves what I've been saying all along...women was SAFETY. They want safe and secure. They'll do anything to get it.

I don't want to hear about your friends, sisters, daughter who is "fearless" and can do anything a boy can do. First off...NO woman has EVER been at the very top of ANY physical endeavor. They've NEVER been "smarter" than the smartest man. She's either living at home or with a boyfriend/husband who supports her while she "plays".

Women are masters of denial and delusion...your job is to have kids and teach them. That's it. Men give you the sperm and take care of you...that's OUR job. Stop trying to twist nature to suit you.

You want absolute safety? Live in a bunker and never come out. Otherwise, let US have some FREEDOM and don't try to control EVERYTHING. If I don't like or want black/hispanics around me...I should have that right. WE should have that right is we decide as a community...a business, a school. It's called freedom of association...and if you want to hang around us...you have to EARN it...by showing us you really ARE and equal and not just on a piece of paper. That's ALL I see of this supposed equality...words on paper...NOTHING i real life, the real world shows me we're equal.

Knock yourself out... https://www.google.com/search?q=black+people+monkey+like+features&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

The good stuff is all censored and can ONLY be found on "fake" news sites. You're SO played...SO manipulated...it makes me laugh.

[janmcn]

I don't care about his tax returns. Apparently, he has followed the law and taken advantage of all it has allowed. Everyone who files taxes does the same thing....all of us. Otherwise, we would not take ANY deductions, itemized or standard. Does anyone really think that the IRS would not be chiming in long before now, if something were really amiss?

What I do care about is MY country. I want to see us SAFE, most of all. Then comes prosperous. We need to LEAD once again and keep this the country so many others desire. I want to see us take care of our own FIRST. We have too many children in our own country that are hungry everyday. We need to make it so that unloved, unwanted, orphaned, or unplanned children in this country are able to be adopted without all the red tape and outrageous financial obstacles. Many, many children grow up to be outstanding citizens without having been brought up with lots of money. It's not about the money; it's about the parenting and love.

I care about how he leads.


Are you joking about the IRS chiming in on a private citizen's tax returns? If not illegal, this would definitely by unethical.

The question that many have is who does he owe large sums of money (hundreds of millions or billions) to. This would show up on his tax returns as principle and interest paid, but to whom?

There hasn't been a president or president-elect in recent history that has been unable to get a line of credit in the US. Big businessman Trump is getting money from somewhere, the question is where. His son, Eric, intimated a while back that it is Russia.

[Chi-Town]

Another wonderful liberal who believes in inclusiveness, open mindedness and uniting everyone.
Do you have any liberal fans Dr.Jr?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161218/a4413d6a3efd8c99708ac1cf1ac26d0c.jpg

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

[autumnspring]

So what you are saying is that Hillary should be impeached, right? After all, as SecState her foundation accepted millions from foreigners wishing an audience with her. Or, is this considered another right wing conspiracy to you, to go along with all those obvious felonies she committed by purposely mishandling classified information?

Show me in the Constitution where accepting a gift from a foreign country is an impeachable offense. And is it a "gift" if it is business? A gift is accepting something with nothing in return expected. So, quit your whining and worry about something serious instead of your imagination. If this is the best you can do, then perhaps you should sit back and let others discuss politics.

Impeach Hilllary? THE VOTERS IMPEACHED HER TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT ELECT. Far as I am concerned the voters made the same choice as I did.

I HOPE, AND YOU PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HILLARY SHOULD HOPE THAT TRUMP WAS THE BETTER CHOICE FOR OUR COUNTRY.

RE: CRIMINAL MISHANDLING OF GOVERNMENT E-MAILS
How clear can it be to ALL why this is a CRIMINAL ACT?
Hillary's improperly, ILLEGALLY, handled e-mails were found on a computer shared by DISGRACED WEINER and his wife HUMA ABERDEEN who has family in SAUDI ARABIA and DOES NOT HAVE SECURITY CLEARANCE.

THE SWAMP IS BEING DRAINED-The law will get rid of OBAMA. The voters have gotten rid of the CLINTONS,
Not soon enough the grim reaper will take SOROS to HELL.
READ what SOROS is-he survived the HOLOCAUST by shoving his own people into the OVENS. He made his fortune by virtually BANKRUPTING ENGLAND. Being all warm and cuddly with Obama and the CLINTONS did he have INSIDE INFORMATION on how to bet on the AMERICAN DOLLAR

[autumnspring]

Do you have any liberal fans Dr.Jr?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161218/a4413d6a3efd8c99708ac1cf1ac26d0c.jpg

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

First of all I do not think anyone is 100% left or right wing.

I feel, I HOPE, this lack of unity was created by the election of OBAMA who to gain or to keep power hitched his wagon to the worst that is in our population.

The left accuses everyone that does not AS THEY DO, believe in SOCIALISM either a NAZI OR A RACIST. This reminds me of a THREE YEAR OLD who learns a dirty word and has no idea what it means except that it gets a reaction.

I VOTED FOR TRUMP and yet, I AM PRO CHOICE and unlike many of his supporters I DO NOT SUPPORT TRUMP'S apparent support of a national religion-OUTLAWED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. The first ten amendments to the constitution is called the bill of rights and they are in order of importance. Too many of TRUMP supporters, we have heard about the second amendment, which I do support, over and over again. THEY HAVE NOT DARED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT PREVENTS A NATIONAL RELIGION.

To my point-TRUMP IS NOT A NATZI-like him or not TRUMP is a CAPITALIST. Under Nazism the duty of a citizen is to the state. Under capitalism the duty of a citizen is to yourself and your family. Evil as that might seem to thoughtlessly lost liberals, by taking care of yourself, YOU BRING UP THE LIVING STANDARD OF AN ENTIRE NATION.
Most recent example EAST (communist/socialist) AND WEST GERMANY (capitalistic/democratic)
MR. MS. LIBERAL TEAR DOWN THIS CRAP.

RE: your other DIRTY WORD RACIST
Were you to READ, you will find that TRUMP opened a golf course where members did not want BLACKS OR JEWS, Trump accepted the FINANCIAL RISK and insisted that he would not allow it to open unless the members allowed both blacks and jews. HOPE IT IS NOT TOO CLOSE TO HOME FOR YA-Hillary chose to speak to the TREVON MARTIN FOUNDATION-looking for votes. Trevon Martin
IN HIS MOTHER'S OWN WORDS WAS A NO GOOD PUNK.
She was later SHUT UP by people like SHARPTON and now
TRAVON THE PUNK is the uniting name on the door of some organization.
SEE THE CRAP FOR WHAT IT IS.

By wishing TRUMP well-YOU WISH YOURSELF WELL.
SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP-TRUMP IS THE. IS OUR, ELECTED PRESIDENT.

OH-TO BE CLEAR-I AM NOT DR JR AND IN FACT I DO NOT EVEN KNOW HIM

[janmcn]

His tax returns would not show any specific dealings. He did release a business statement that shows all of that.



His tax returns would show the amount of interest he paid and to whom, as in Russia or China. It is a well known fact that no US bank will lend Trump money or give him a line of credit because of his six bankruptcies (who can blame them).

Trump's son Eric intimated recently that Trump Inc is getting money from Russia. They have to be getting it from somewhere.

[dillywho]

You mean like how republicans treated our first black president?

At least they were WILLING to give him a chance....which he has blown, twice! There is no problem with a black president. It is just that the least capable was selected and elected. There would be no problem with a woman as president; just not one who cares only about herself instead of her country. She only cared about making history for women. Not a qualifier in my book.

No President has been or ever will be perfect. Quit expecting it. My hope is that we can be the best country ever, moving forward. Humans seem to like change, any change, the least of all creatures. How about giving the guy a chance? If he screws up, it can't be any worse than where we've been headed since ISIS has grown and infiltrated every country (probably ours, too). I cannot see offering them an open invitation to come in an do their evil. That seems to be what Clinton and Obama want.

This country is more divided than it has ever been. All the progress blacks have made since MLK, has been erased. Race relations have been set back some 100 years. The all-out war on law enforcement is disgraceful. Respect for anyone and everything is now considered obsolete. This is all totally unacceptable and why people are so fed up with the current administration. Obama encouraging more of the same by voting for Clinton is probably a huge factor in why she lost, not because of any other country's interference.

No way could I ever vote for a woman that would lie to my face about how my child died and then lie about lying about it. She cannot tell the same story twice about anything. Anyone who cannot deal with rejection cannot deal with the big issues facing this country. Sorry, no safe spaces with goodies and crying towels, especially for a president who does not get his/her way.
Amazing that she thinks her illegal private server was not breached but that the election was. She KNOWS better, but still chooses to deny anything that might cast her in an ever worsening light.

This is still a FREE country and I, for one, want to keep it that way. Because it is, and I voted, I have EARNED the right to say what I think about who won and who lost. If YOU didn't bother to cast your vote, then you forfeit the right to complain about loss OR revel about winning. Think about THAT next election.

[dillywho]

You can speak all you want...what you can't/shouldn't do is make LAWS that "help" them...with quotas...that discriminates against EVERYONE who actually earned a place.

50 years we've been propping them up, giving them EVERY advantage...it's gotten them and us, nowhere. Actually, it got a few of them in over their head and it's caused the national rankings to fall from #1 to #25.

They're NOT us...they'll never be us...they can't do what we do. Just like you can't do what your husband does/did. If he's ANY kind of a man, he did/could have kicked your butt in EVERYTHING you did. Am I right? Sports, strength, coordination, driving...he is probably smarter too. It's the way nature MADE US...stop fighting it...the longer you do, the more we lose. Same with race...they're NOT us and they won't be for 50,000 years IF they're lucky. I think they're a separate genetic branch and IF "whites" had found them when we found the Neanderthals, they'd be gone today too. Nobody knew the blacks were there until less than about 2,000 years ago. They've been enslaved ever since. WHY? Why is this ONE race ALWAYS at the bottom if they're really "equal"?



Typical woman comment...it proves what I've been saying all along...women was SAFETY. They want safe and secure. They'll do anything to get it.

I don't want to hear about your friends, sisters, daughter who is "fearless" and can do anything a boy can do. First off...NO woman has EVER been at the very top of ANY physical endeavor. They've NEVER been "smarter" than the smartest man. She's either living at home or with a boyfriend/husband who supports her while she "plays".

Women are masters of denial and delusion...your job is to have kids and teach them. That's it. Men give you the sperm and take care of you...that's OUR job. Stop trying to twist nature to suit you.

You want absolute safety? Live in a bunker and never come out. Otherwise, let US have some FREEDOM and don't try to control EVERYTHING. If I don't like or want black/hispanics around me...I should have that right. WE should have that right is we decide as a community...a business, a school. It's called freedom of association...and if you want to hang around us...you have to EARN it...by showing us you really ARE and equal and not just on a piece of paper. That's ALL I see of this supposed equality...words on paper...NOTHING i real life, the real world shows me we're equal.

Knock yourself out... https://www.google.com/search?q=black+people+monkey+like+features&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

The good stuff is all censored and can ONLY be found on "fake" news sites. You're SO played...SO manipulated...it makes me laugh.


A bit chauvinistic, are we?:bigbow:

[janmcn]

Thank you for bringing up Benghazi. Just last week Rep Trey Gowdy (R-SC) folded up his tent after two years of investigations. He bounded on the scene with much aplomb citing new information and new sources and calling Hillary Clinton to testify for 11 straight hours.

What were his parting words 'nothing new to report here'. What's that Trey, we couldn't hear you. 'NOTHING NEW TO REPORT HERE', as he drove off at a high rate of speed to SC to figure out how he will reimburse the treasury the nine million dollars he just wasted.

[MDLNB]

First of all I do not think anyone is 100% left or right wing.

I feel, I HOPE, this lack of unity was created by the election of OBAMA who to gain or to keep power hitched his wagon to the worst that is in our population.

The left accuses everyone that does not AS THEY DO, believe in SOCIALISM either a NAZI OR A RACIST. This reminds me of a THREE YEAR OLD who learns a dirty word and has no idea what it means except that it gets a reaction.

I VOTED FOR TRUMP and yet, I AM PRO CHOICE and unlike many of his supporters I DO NOT SUPPORT TRUMP'S apparent support of a national religion-OUTLAWED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. The first ten amendments to the constitution is called the bill of rights and they are in order of importance. Too many of TRUMP supporters, we have heard about the second amendment, which I do support, over and over again. THEY HAVE NOT DARED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT PREVENTS A NATIONAL RELIGION.

To my point-TRUMP IS NOT A NATZI-like him or not TRUMP is a CAPITALIST. Under Nazism the duty of a citizen is to the state. Under capitalism the duty of a citizen is to yourself and your family. Evil as that might seem to thoughtlessly lost liberals, by taking care of yourself, YOU BRING UP THE LIVING STANDARD OF AN ENTIRE NATION.
Most recent example EAST (communist/socialist) AND WEST GERMANY (capitalistic/democratic)
MR. MS. LIBERAL TEAR DOWN THIS CRAP.

RE: your other DIRTY WORD RACIST
Were you to READ, you will find that TRUMP opened a golf course where members did not want BLACKS OR JEWS, Trump accepted the FINANCIAL RISK and insisted that he would not allow it to open unless the members allowed both blacks and jews. HOPE IT IS NOT TOO CLOSE TO HOME FOR YA-Hillary chose to speak to the TREVON MARTIN FOUNDATION-looking for votes. Trevon Martin
IN HIS MOTHER'S OWN WORDS WAS A NO GOOD PUNK.
She was later SHUT UP by people like SHARPTON and now
TRAVON THE PUNK is the uniting name on the door of some organization.
SEE THE CRAP FOR WHAT IT IS.

By wishing TRUMP well-YOU WISH YOURSELF WELL.
SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP-TRUMP IS THE. IS OUR, ELECTED PRESIDENT.

OH-TO BE CLEAR-I AM NOT DR JR AND IN FACT I DO NOT EVEN KNOW HIM

:thumbup:

[MDLNB]

His tax returns would show the amount of interest he paid and to whom, as in Russia or China. It is a well known fact that no US bank will lend Trump money or give him a line of credit because of his six bankruptcies (who can blame them).

Trump's son Eric intimated recently that Trump Inc is getting money from Russia. They have to be getting it from somewhere.

Who cares?

He submitted a financial disclosure form when he submitted his name to run for president. Just because nosy busybodies want to SEE his junk, does not mean that it is required. I am glad that he had the guts to refuse and now maybe the refusal will become the norm.

Try to get it through your head that Trump won and Hillary lost. Hillary is history now. A criminal that probably should be happy that she has probably gotten away with committing many felonies. She should slink away like the snake she is before someone takes a shovel to her.

[jimbo2012]

His tax returns would show the amount of interest he paid and to whom, as in Russia or China. It is a well known fact that no US bank will lend Trump money or give him a line of credit because of his six bankruptcies (who can blame them).

Trump's son Eric intimated recently that Trump Inc is getting money from Russia. They have to be getting it from somewhere.

you can support all that correct? :police:

[rustyp]

1) Will it bother you if Trump does not show his tax returns and does not divest himself from his business interest to protect himself of any appearance of a conflict of interest?

2) Would you feel the same if Clinton had been elected and she didn't show her tax returns or divest herself from her business interests?

I'm just curious of your thought process. Thanks in advance for your response. If possible please keep your response civil. I am not attacking you or Trump.

Perhaps the title of this thread is not as forthright as written

[MDLNB]

Thank you for bringing up Benghazi. Just last week Rep Trey Gowdy (R-SC) folded up his tent after two years of investigations. He bounded on the scene with much aplomb citing new information and new sources and calling Hillary Clinton to testify for 11 straight hours.

What were his parting words 'nothing new to report here'. What's that Trey, we couldn't hear you. 'NOTHING NEW TO REPORT HERE', as he drove off at a high rate of speed to SC to figure out how he will reimburse the treasury the nine million dollars he just wasted.

Nine million? WOW! Hmmm, wonder how Obie will justify wasting over a half billion on Solyndra. Spending money on justice is only wasted when the red tape camouflaged as law hinders the investigation. If not for the investigation, we probably would not know about Hillary's felony law breaking when she used a personal server to transmit classified and then illegally destroyed the classified information and business related emails. In a way, he saved us from Hillary becoming the second worst president in our history, behind Obama. :BigApplause:

[jimbo2012]

Thank you for bringing up Benghazi. Just last week Rep Trey Gowdy (R-SC) folded up his tent after two years of investigations. He bounded on the scene with much aplomb citing new information and new sources and calling Hillary Clinton to testify for 11 straight hours.

What were his parting words 'nothing new to report here'. What's that Trey, we couldn't hear you. 'NOTHING NEW TO REPORT HERE', as he drove off at a high rate of speed to SC to figure out how he will reimburse the treasury the nine million dollars he just wasted.

well considering we know you only go by CNN and just posted their bias BS.

here's the other side

BREAKING: Trey Gowdy Releases Untold Truths In Final Benghazi Report - Conservative Daily Post (https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-trey-gowdy-releases-untold-truths-final-benghazi-report/)

"They were so uncooperative that it led committee member Representative Mike Pompeo, who is President-elect Donald trump’s choice to be the next director of the CIA, to say that the group answered many questions, but couldn’t do so “completely.” In other words, they were leaving out information that was critical to understanding what happened.

Trey Gowdy, a Republican Representative of South Carolina as well as the chairman of the panel, has said that the report is the “final, definitive accounting” of what happened in Benghazi. Finally, the American people can get answers about what happened on that fateful day, considering that Hillary wasn’t going to answer it honestly."

[MDLNB]

well considering we know you only go by CNN and just posted their bias BS.

here's the other side

BREAKING: Trey Gowdy Releases Untold Truths In Final Benghazi Report - Conservative Daily Post (https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-trey-gowdy-releases-untold-truths-final-benghazi-report/)

"They were so uncooperative that it led committee member Representative Mike Pompeo, who is President-elect Donald trump’s choice to be the next director of the CIA, to say that the group answered many questions, but couldn’t do so “completely.” In other words, they were leaving out information that was critical to understanding what happened.

Trey Gowdy, a Republican Representative of South Carolina as well as the chairman of the panel, has said that the report is the “final, definitive accounting” of what happened in Benghazi. Finally, the American people can get answers about what happened on that fateful day, considering that Hillary wasn’t going to answer it honestly."

The left is very adept at perverting fact.

Kind of like the FBI saying that they did not recommend Hillary be indicted at this time and Hillary coming back and telling everyone that the FBI said she was innocent and that she did no wrong.

And when the left insists that Trump asked the Russians to hack Hillary, when all he said was "I hope the Russians can find Hillary's missing emails and if so I hope they will turn them over to the FBI."

[Don Baldwin]

well considering we know you only go by CNN and just posted their bias BS.

here's the other side

BREAKING: Trey Gowdy Releases Untold Truths In Final Benghazi Report - Conservative Daily Post (https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-trey-gowdy-releases-untold-truths-final-benghazi-report/)

"They were so uncooperative that it led committee member Representative Mike Pompeo, who is President-elect Donald trump’s choice to be the next director of the CIA, to say that the group answered many questions, but couldn’t do so “completely.” In other words, they were leaving out information that was critical to understanding what happened.

Trey Gowdy, a Republican Representative of South Carolina as well as the chairman of the panel, has said that the report is the “final, definitive accounting” of what happened in Benghazi. Finally, the American people can get answers about what happened on that fateful day, considering that Hillary wasn’t going to answer it honestly."

There is SO MUCH MORE than just this...both parties are complete corruption...this is a drop in the barrel.

[Warren Kiefer]

Who cares?

He submitted a financial disclosure form when he submitted his name to run for president. Just because nosy busybodies want to SEE his junk, does not mean that it is required. I am glad that he had the guts to refuse and now maybe the refusal will become the norm.

Try to get it through your head that Trump won and Hillary lost. Hillary is history now. A criminal that probably should be happy that she has probably gotten away with committing many felonies. She should slink away like the snake she is before someone takes a shovel to her.

No one is this stupid. Trump is hiding his taxes on purpose. We do know he hasn't paid any taxes for eleven years. Nosy, anyone who thinks this is nuts. You call Hillary a criminal, Hillary has never been convicted of any crime, Trump has been in court over 3500 times. He got five military deferments for a bone spur. He could play sports but was too sick to serve his country. The more I write, the more disgusting I realize Trump is !!!!

[Rockyrd]

The left is very adept at perverting fact.

Kind of like the FBI saying that they did not recommend Hillary be indicted at this time and Hillary coming back and telling everyone that the FBI said she was innocent and that she did no wrong.

And when the left insists that Trump asked the Russians to hack Hillary, when all he said was "I hope the Russians can find Hillary's missing emails and if so I hope they will turn them over to the FBI."

Hillary Clinton lost. Trump won.

Get over yourself and forget Hillary Clinton.

Nobody cares much anymore if Trump ever paid taxes, but each day it becomes clearer that he is hiding his involvement in Russia and Turkey for sure....perhaps Iran and others with terrorist ties.

Do you people never tire of discussing verything EXCEPT Trump..has he molded your minds to simply chant and do not watch or listen to me..just lock her up.

Are all of you that simple minded ?

[debbieingigharbor]

The left is very adept at perverting fact.

Kind of like the FBI saying that they did not recommend Hillary be indicted at this time and Hillary coming back and telling everyone that the FBI said she was innocent and that she did no wrong.

And when the left insists that Trump asked the Russians to hack Hillary, when all he said was "I hope the Russians can find Hillary's missing emails and if so I hope they will turn them over to the FBI."

When you say "the left is very adept at perverting fact" are you suggesting the right is not as adept? I keep hearing people say they both are bad but I can't see that at all. It's like someone saying "We're both sick, you have lung cancer and I have a head cold, it's the same." It's not the same. You can't compare Fox News with CNN. CNN is disliked by both the right and left (something that tells me they are doing their job). Fox news has shown statistically to be totally bias with the possible exception of Shepard Smith. MSN being ALMOST as bad as Fox.

[debbieingigharbor]

Hillary Clinton lost. Trump won.

Get over yourself and forget Hillary Clinton.

Nobody cares much anymore if Trump ever paid taxes, but each day it becomes clearer that he is hiding his involvement in Russia and Turkey for sure....perhaps Iran and others with terrorist ties.

Do you people never tire of discussing verything EXCEPT Trump..has he molded your minds to simply chant and do not watch or listen to me..just lock her up.

Are all of you that simple minded ?

Apparently.

[Don Baldwin]

When you say "the left is very adept at perverting fact" are you suggesting the right is not as adept? I keep hearing people say they both are bad but I can't see that at all. It's like someone saying "We're both sick, you have lung cancer and I have a head cold, it's the same." It's not the same. You can't compare Fox News with CNN. CNN is disliked by both the right and left (something that tells me they are doing their job). Fox news has shown statistically to be totally bias with the possible exception of Shepard Smith. MSN being ALMOST as bad as Fox.

Then you're biased...BOTH sides are completely corrupt.

Maybe that's how YOU see it...but looking objectively you both have cancer and it's bad. That "head cold" is actually a nasty tumor.

CNN is NOT "doing its job". The KKK is doing it's job...because the TRUTH is HATED.

At one time, I watched Fox News, I was disheartened by all the lies coming from the major networks. I soon learned/realized that they are just as wrong as the other side. They work for their masters too.

The ONLY one worth watching was Judge Napolitano. They booted him. That's when I stopped watching and realize they ALL have an agenda and the truth is not to be found on MSM.

[Allegiance]

Imagine, several debates scandalized by cnn, yet they refuse to investigate and reveal the truth contained on their own servers.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920AZ using Tapatalk

[mickey100]

well considering we know you only go by CNN and just posted their bias BS.

here's the other side

BREAKING: Trey Gowdy Releases Untold Truths In Final Benghazi Report - Conservative Daily Post (https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-trey-gowdy-releases-untold-truths-final-benghazi-report/)

"They were so uncooperative that it led committee member Representative Mike Pompeo, who is President-elect Donald trump’s choice to be the next director of the CIA, to say that the group answered many questions, but couldn’t do so “completely.” In other words, they were leaving out information that was critical to understanding what happened.

Trey Gowdy, a Republican Representative of South Carolina as well as the chairman of the panel, has said that the report is the “final, definitive accounting” of what happened in Benghazi. Finally, the American people can get answers about what happened on that fateful day, considering that Hillary wasn’t going to answer it honestly."


The Conservative Daily Post??? Ha, ha, pretty funny. That's like citing the National Enquirer as a legitimate news source. You need to come up with a real news source, pal.
The Conservative Daily Post is a website based in Las Vegas whose goal is to "do our part to destroy the 'politically correct' behavior that has inhibited true liberty and democracy in America for so long." Not quite a "non-biased" agenda. Typical of recent headlines: "FBI confirms evidence of huge Clinton underground sex network". Fact checkers gave this statement a "pants on fire" rating.

[Rockyrd]

The Conservative Daily Post??? Ha, ha, pretty funny. That's like citing the National Enquirer as a legitimate news source. You need to come up with a real news source, pal.
The Conservative Daily Post is a website based in Las Vegas whose goal is to "do our part to destroy the 'politically correct' behavior that has inhibited true liberty and democracy in America for so long." Not quite a "non-biased" agenda. Typical of recent headlines: "FBI confirms evidence of huge Clinton underground sex network". Fact checkers gave this statement a "pants on fire" rating.

This rush of fake news, extreme websites and such are really concerning.

I recall when, even on this site, the joke was that you could justify a UFO or alien on the internet because you could find a site that would justify that for you.

NOW.....it is real and sadly people turn to these website for whatever reason, and they just keep going where directed by their party, their whatever until they say....oh, now I see and they are looking at modified, false information. On this site, the references to things are amazing.....actual FACTS simply dismissed by a website that has a motive other than presenting the truth.

It is scary and this particular campaign made it stand out quite a bit.

Not sure the answer...I posted this link and a few sentences from it, but of course was met with the usual sarcasm. I suggest that you can agree or disagree but it is a beginning and understanding this problem is important to this country in my opinion.

Donald Trump and the Rise of Alt-Reality Media - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/donald-trump-conservative-media-charlie-sykes-214483)

And please understand, I am aware that both sides of the aisle manufacture this crap. This particular campaign it was heavy fomr the right, and Trumps long history with the alt right make it easy but I understand both sides have it.

[mickey100]

This rush of fake news, extreme websites and such are really concerning.

I recall when, even on this site, the joke was that you could justify a UFO or alien on the internet because you could find a site that would justify that for you.

NOW.....it is real and sadly people turn to these website for whatever reason, and they just keep going where directed by their party, their whatever until they say....oh, now I see and they are looking at modified, false information. On this site, the references to things are amazing.....actual FACTS simply dismissed by a website that has a motive other than presenting the truth.

It is scary and this particular campaign made it stand out quite a bit.

Not sure the answer...I posted this link and a few sentences from it, but of course was met with the usual sarcasm. I suggest that you can agree or disagree but it is a beginning and understanding this problem is important to this country in my opinion.

Donald Trump and the Rise of Alt-Reality Media - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/donald-trump-conservative-media-charlie-sykes-214483)

And please understand, I am aware that both sides of the aisle manufacture this crap. This particular campaign it was heavy fomr the right, and Trumps long history with the alt right make it easy but I understand both sides have it.

Well said...