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dbussone
05-12-2017, 03:51 PM
At approx. 4PM today I witnessed a woman get ejected from a golf cart. The cart was traveling east on Pinellas Place and turned left into Asher Path. The woman passenger was ejected onto the roadway of the westbound lane of Pinellas Place.
I stopped to call 911 and assist. Since she was in a traffic lane I pulled my car into the lane to protect her from oncoming traffic.
She was bleeding profusely, including from her ear. This is an assumption on my part, but I doubt she was wearing a seatbelt given the speed at which she was ejected.
TVPSD responded promptly.
Please say a prayer for her, and the driver of the cart.
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golfing eagles
05-12-2017, 04:16 PM
At approx. 4PM today I witnessed a woman get ejected from a golf cart. The cart was traveling east on Pinellas Place and turned left into Asher Path. The woman passenger was ejected onto the roadway of the westbound lane of Pinellas Place.
I stopped to call 911 and assist. Since she was in a traffic lane I pulled my car into the lane to protect her from oncoming traffic.
She was bleeding profusely, including from her ear. This is an assumption on my part, but I doubt she was wearing a seatbelt given the speed at which she was ejected.
TVPSD responded promptly.
Please say a prayer for her, and the driver of the cart.
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That sucks. Hopes she is alright and the bleeding from the ear was just a superficial abrasion. The driver must feel terrible, since it is possible he/she took the turn too quickly. Quick thinking on your part to block traffic--a lot of people will render assistance, then a daydreaming driver comes along and creates a real tragedy
dbussone
05-12-2017, 04:21 PM
That sucks. Hopes she is alright and the bleeding from the ear was just a superficial abrasion. The driver must feel terrible, since it is possible he/she took the turn too quickly. Quick thinking on your part to block traffic--a lot of people will render assistance, then a daydreaming driver comes along and creates a real tragedy
I wish it was just an abrasion. The external portion of the ear looked fine, but a river of blood coming from the canal.
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Happinow
05-12-2017, 05:10 PM
We were headed out at about this time. Police directing traffic coming out of Asher Path. Why can't people slow down and get/wear seat belts? Would probably have saved her from falling out of the cart.I hope she recovers quickly.
billethkid
05-12-2017, 06:07 PM
Without knowing anymore details.....driving to fast.....daily problem with golf cart and automobile drivers in TV.
golfing eagles
05-12-2017, 06:10 PM
I wish it was just an abrasion. The external portion of the ear looked fine, but a river of blood coming from the canal.
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Went to Colony for Mexican food---passed the site of the accident and I agree, the blood stain was far too big for an abrasion. Just hope she didn't fracture her skull.
Taltarzac725
05-12-2017, 06:55 PM
Went to Colony for Mexican food---passed the site of the accident and I agree, the blood stain was far too big for an abrasion. Just hope she didn't fracture her skull.
Some people do seem to take the turns way too fast in a golf cart. I went to a movie with one of these way too quick carters and have always found some kind of excuse not to go out with him again. His wife does not like the Harry Potter, Marvel comics, James Bond type movies we both share an affection for. And he does not have seat belts in his cart. I did have to hang on with some of these turns.
graciegirl
05-12-2017, 07:24 PM
I will pray for her DBussone and for you as well.
What a terrible thing.
Nucky
05-12-2017, 08:07 PM
Bad that the person was injured but her lucky day that you were the one to help her. Divine intervention. Bravo dbussone. Prayers for all involved.
I am the cart that everyone passes. I am going to drive at the speed I feel safe no matter what anxiety fit someone behind me may have. Also whoever is driving with me in the cart has to agree to stay off the cell phone and pay attention as we navigate around TV. A quick evasive action to avoid someone in our lane or just driver error and the passenger is sent flying. I wear a seatbelt in the cart and offer it to a passenger at their option. The paying attention thing is not optional...it's a long walk home if they don't comply.
ColdNoMore
05-12-2017, 09:22 PM
At approx. 4PM today I witnessed a woman get ejected from a golf cart. The cart was traveling east on Pinellas Place and turned left into Asher Path. The woman passenger was ejected onto the roadway of the westbound lane of Pinellas Place.
I stopped to call 911 and assist. Since she was in a traffic lane I pulled my car into the lane to protect her from oncoming traffic.
She was bleeding profusely, including from her ear. This is an assumption on my part, but I doubt she was wearing a seatbelt given the speed at which she was ejected.
TVPSD responded promptly.
Please say a prayer for her, and the driver of the cart.
It sounds like she was very lucky someone like you was the first on the scene. :thumbup:
Here's hoping she will be OK.
Seatbelts really are a very cheap and effective way...of helping to avoid this type of incident. :(
dbussone
05-12-2017, 09:56 PM
It sounds like she was very lucky someone like you was the first on the scene. :thumbup:
Here's hoping she will be OK.
Seatbelts really are a very cheap and effective way...of helping to avoid this type of incident. :(
Amen to that.
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rubicon
05-13-2017, 04:10 AM
We don't know why this passenger fell from the golf cart. It could have been speed? It could have been an inappropriate turn? It could have been because of an illness? It could have been the passenger was simply not seated properly? What we do know is a person fell and this person appeared to be injured.
CFrance
05-13-2017, 04:44 AM
We don't know why this passenger fell from the golf cart. It could have been speed? It could have been an inappropriate turn? It could have been because of an illness? It could have been the passenger was simply not seated properly? What we do know is a person fell and this person appeared to be injured.
We may not know why this person fell from the golf cart, but I think it's safe to say she wasn't wearing a seatbelt.
How horrible for everyone involved, including you, DB. She'll be in my thoughts and prayers.
Topspinmo
05-13-2017, 05:55 AM
Some people do seem to take the turns way too fast in a golf cart. I went to a movie with one of these way too quick carters and have always found some kind of excuse not to go out with him again. His wife does not like the Harry Potter, Marvel comics, James Bond type movies we both share an affection for. And he does not have seat belts in his cart. I did have to hang on with some of these turns.
I agree, if you don't have seat belt or don't use them people need to brace themselves by extending they're legs and holding onto the side arm. By pushing your legs no the slant of ththe floor board it wedged you back in the seat. Along with holding on to the side rail this reduces your changes of being thrown out. Even it I got set belts on when riding I do this. Short people may have to put they're feet on th corner of the dashboard or use pillow to reach some support.
Carla B
05-13-2017, 11:49 AM
Declining to wear the seat belt is not optional if they are a passenger in our cart. What is optional is that they can walk.
autumnspring
05-13-2017, 01:16 PM
There are a lot of conflicts re: golf cart speed.
The golf carts are actually designed to do 15 mph which is why they only have brakes on the rear wheels.
Unless the law has been changed any golf cart that does over 20mph must have plates and insurance.
The new 2017 yamaha comes factory set up to do 24 mph.
Last year when we had our 2015 yamaha serviced they insisted we sign a form oking that if our cart was doing over 20 they would turn it back to 20.
I was surprised-this year they asked us if we wanted it set at 22.5 or 24.
ARE WE IN SUCH A SUCH TO RELAX??????
Chatbrat
05-13-2017, 01:58 PM
If you are caught doing more than 19.9--you are guilty of the following:
1)speeding
2) having an unregistered vehicle
3)having an uninsured vehicle
4)operating a vehicle with out proper equipment on the road
5) and you better have a valid driver's license
And you must get the cart certified that its max speed is 19.9
could add up to mucho $$$
Polar Bear
05-13-2017, 02:18 PM
If you are caught doing more than 19.9--you are guilty of the following:
1)speeding
2) having an unregistered vehicle
3)having an uninsured vehicle
4)operating a vehicle with out proper equipment on the road
5) and you better have a valid driver's license
And you must get the cart certified that its max speed is 19.9
could add up to mucho $$$
All absolutely accurate.
And also largely irrelevant to the vast majority of cart drivers in TV, who drive safely, cautiously, and yes, a bit over 19.9 much of the time.
Considering this and the level of enforcement of the 19.9 speed limit, the vast majority of the owners of 20+mph carts...which I would wager is the majority of carts in TV...have little reason for concern.
I'd say you should have about as much concern as if you drive your car a few mph over the speed limit on the interstate. Yeah, you're a law breaker. But few, including law enforcement, consider you criminals.
red tail
05-13-2017, 03:38 PM
Bad that the person was injured but her lucky day that you were the one to help her. Divine intervention. Bravo dbussone. Prayers for all involved.
I am the cart that everyone passes. I am going to drive at the speed I feel safe no matter what anxiety fit someone behind me may have. Also whoever is driving with me in the cart has to agree to stay off the cell phone and pay attention as we navigate around TV. A quick evasive action to avoid someone in our lane or just driver error and the passenger is sent flying. I wear a seatbelt in the cart and offer it to a passenger at their option. The paying attention thing is not optional...it's a long walk home if they don't comply.
Being the cart that everyone passes is what causes a lot of the problems.
patfla06
05-13-2017, 04:15 PM
Being the cart that everyone passes is what causes a lot of the problems.
Not true.
Being in a constant rush and passing people while doing over the speed limit is what causes a lot of the problems.
Nucky
05-13-2017, 04:40 PM
Being the cart that everyone passes is what causes a lot of the problems.
Yes, I'm guilty of proceeding cautiously and not reacting to pressure from those behind me. :ohdear: I feel like such a trendsetter by following the rules.
Bosoxfan
05-13-2017, 07:18 PM
Someone needs to explain to me what the problem is .Why can't people pass others without getting cursed at? Why is it that the person blocking the faster traffic from flowing not the problem? Driving fast is a choice one makes . No one except the police should be the ones telling them they're wrong. The other day I was passing someone on Pinellas pl in the village of Pinellas and some guy was cussing me out . I wasn't affecting anything he was doing as he was in the diamond lane and I was in the middle of the road passing him . Am I supposed to stay behind him even if he's going slower then I'm capable of going? Folks if I choose to drive fast and if I get caught that's my problem. Before anyone says I'm going to cause an accident I want you to know I would never pass anyone without the proper distance needed to do so.
Bosoxfan
05-13-2017, 07:20 PM
All absolutely accurate.
And also largely irrelevant to the vast majority of cart drivers in TV, who drive safely, cautiously, and yes, a bit over 19.9 much of the time.
Considering this and the level of enforcement of the 19.9 speed limit, the vast majority of the owners of 20+mph carts...which I would wager is the majority of carts in TV...have little reason for concern.
I'd say you should have about as much concern as if you drive your car a few mph over the speed limit on the interstate. Yeah, you're a law breaker. But few, including law enforcement, consider you criminals.
We'll said :bigbow:
TheDude
05-14-2017, 12:59 AM
Always slow down at a turn, and accelerate on the end of a curve. And right turns, always slow to safe ratio based on your skill (slower the better and have turn signal on) and turn. Turning Left, always watch on coming and remember you do not have to wait until the line ends to merge as you can get in left lane at any time you feel there is a hazard.
Seat belts are not needed. Those with older carts have the molded plastic sides (that is dangerous). Upgrade your seats to have a fold down arm rest.
And I to hope she is okay.
DonH57
05-14-2017, 05:42 AM
Someone needs to explain to me what the problem is .Why can't people pass others without getting cursed at? Why is it that the person blocking the faster traffic from flowing not the problem? Driving fast is a choice one makes . No one except the police should be the ones telling them they're wrong. The other day I was passing someone on Pinellas pl in the village of Pinellas and some guy was cussing me out . I wasn't affecting anything he was doing as he was in the diamond lane and I was in the middle of the road passing him . Am I supposed to stay behind him even if he's going slower then I'm capable of going? Folks if I choose to drive fast and if I get caught that's my problem. Before anyone says I'm going to cause an accident I want you to know I would never pass anyone without the proper distance needed to do so.
I pass them if they are going slower than 18 and I do it safely with assured clearance. I'm not following someone 4 or 5 miles because they want to inspect everyone's grass.:laugh:
ColdNoMore
05-14-2017, 06:10 AM
Someone needs to explain to me what the problem is .Why can't people pass others without getting cursed at? Why is it that the person blocking the faster traffic from flowing not the problem? Driving fast is a choice one makes . No one except the police should be the ones telling them they're wrong. The other day I was passing someone on Pinellas pl in the village of Pinellas and some guy was cussing me out . I wasn't affecting anything he was doing as he was in the diamond lane and I was in the middle of the road passing him . Am I supposed to stay behind him even if he's going slower then I'm capable of going? Folks if I choose to drive fast and if I get caught that's my problem. Before anyone says I'm going to cause an accident I want you to know I would never pass anyone without the proper distance needed to do so.
:BigApplause:
Often, the same people who become irate that they are being passed by golf carts are the same jerks driving right at the speed limit with cars stacked up behind them...in the left lane on Interstates and Turnpikes. :mad:
graciegirl
05-14-2017, 06:31 AM
This thread began with the reporting of a serious accident. I have had this woman on my mind since I read the post. A LOT of blood coming from her ear means she is fighting hard to live or to be the same person she was before the accident.
I also know DBussone enough to know that he hasn't put this down and it is causing him worry and sadness.
An accident means that something occurred that wasn't expected or planned and because of no sides on all vehicles that are golf carts may be something that could occur to all people who drive them. Even if you are not ejected, your body held in place inside could be hit or swerve into something immobile.
This is about a human just like all of us due to no fault of her own is in a dire situation.
I am saddened and angered that this discussion has changed into someone calling someone else a jerk for driving the speed limit.
We all are who we are. Patience IS still a virtue. Regional attitudes on passing are obvious. Just as attitudes about stopping at stop signs.
I feel very sad for the woman injured and grateful and sad for the people who stopped and continue to care about her.
ColdNoMore
05-14-2017, 06:48 AM
As in most threads, the original topic often morphs into tangential observations/comments.
Such as posts 5, 7, 9, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 & 25...in this thread alone.
Regardless, those who become irate because they are being passed by another cart and those who tool along in the left lane (even if at the speed limit) while other vehicles pile up behind them...ARE jerks. :ho:
And as I stated in Post #10...here's hoping that the lady will be OK. :thumbup:
graciegirl
05-14-2017, 07:18 AM
As in most threads, the original topic often morphs into tangential observations/comments.
Such as posts 5, 7, 9, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 & 25...in this thread alone.
Regardless, those who become irate because they are being passed by another cart and those who tool along in the left lane (even if at the speed limit) while other vehicles pile up behind them...ARE jerks. :ho:
And as I stated in Post #10...here's hoping that the lady will be OK. :thumbup:
I think that some people move here with completely different driving rules in their heads from others. Most people who live here are rule oriented, pay off their credit card bills every month, are conservative in their political views and own their homes outright. Most people who live here are patriotic, believe in God, although they may not go to church, are respectful of others and generally happy. Most people who live here started out with a lot less than they have now and take really good care of what they have. Most people are kind and considerate of others.
Most people who live here rarely call other people jerks.
Henryk
05-14-2017, 09:20 AM
I've read many of your posts, Gracie. I think you're a wonderful person. God bless you.
rubicon
05-14-2017, 09:51 AM
Here we go AGAIN The way posters talk you would come to believe that the MMP's are The Villages version of Daytona Speed Way. I'll wager that the average speed on MMP's is less than 16mph given the amount of cart, bike and pedestrian traffic
Here we are discussing one accident and many posters believe it is proof positive that speeding golf carts are a major and serious problem.
The official #1 cause for vehicle accidents is DISTRACTIONS..
One would come to believe listening to some of the comments here that from an actuarial stand point golf cart accidents are greatly surpassing statistics. If I focus on blue cars that is all I will see are blue cars.
Some reference the fact that golf carts are designed to go no more than 15mph.
first, I question that figure but more importantly The Villages lifestyle, and that of other communities greatly altered the use of golf carts. Perhaps a max of 15mph on a golf course is fine but is that speed actually conducive to the villages lifestyle and its continuing and rapid expansion?
Also I have noticed a number of occupants in golf carts who appear rather frail. It is the main reason why I believe seat belts are a good thing that and the fact that occupants sometimes are in an unguarded position....none of which would require speed as the only ingredient to create a person to be ejected.
The Villages is golf cart accessible and requires a whole other set of circumstances when it comes to the operation and needs of golf cart owners
batman911
05-14-2017, 10:27 AM
Being the cart that everyone passes is what causes a lot of the problems.
Now that makes no sense at all. Talk about wrong headed thinking.
ColdNoMore
05-14-2017, 10:29 AM
I think that some people move here with completely different driving rules in their heads from others. Most people who live here are rule oriented, pay off their credit card bills every month, are conservative in their political views and own their homes outright. Most people who live here are patriotic, believe in God, although they may not go to church, are respectful of others and generally happy. Most people who live here started out with a lot less than they have now and take really good care of what they have. Most people are kind and considerate of others.
Most people who live here rarely call other people jerks.
When you see that long line of cars behind you in the left lane...Please move to the right. :ho:
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05-14-2017, 01:01 PM
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jpvillager
05-15-2017, 07:29 AM
I hope she is OK. Seat belts work. All it takes is a quick turn, not so much a fast turn. Have a friend that it happened to them also.
DeanFL
05-15-2017, 10:25 AM
Such little margin for error driving a golf cart. 18" either way can spell deep trouble. Attention / Awareness is key. I have passed (in our car) so many cart drivers on their phone or fiddling around at the wheel. Their carts are swerving and they seen unaware of cars or curbs so near. We are FIRM believers in seat belts - car & cart.
Don't like riding in carts without them, and always seem to be hanging onto handles just in case. And constantly aware of that curbing <18" to the right and what might happen if the wheel hits...
Must say, altho our cart has pretty good suspension (Tomberlin) turning into cart paths from a street is a challenge at times - the slope of the curb jolts the cart easily.
Bottom line - We ALL have responsibility when operating our car and carts. It is so important to take that responsibility seriously at all times. A second or two of lapse, and....
Sure hope the lady that was injured is recovering. Another reminder for us all to be cautious and careful out there. And enjoy our bit of Paradise here as well.
Chatbrat
05-15-2017, 10:28 AM
Most important-she was not holding an infant in her arms--how many of us have witnessed this?
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