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wjboyer1
06-06-2017, 10:37 AM
A degree by degree explanation of what will happen when the earth warms (http://globalwarming.berrens.nl/globalwarming.htm)

https://climate.nasa.gov

Quantifying the effects of climate change (https://phys.org/news/2017-06-quantifying-effects-climate.html)

Despite Trump, many cities and states are fighting climate change. Including Pittsburgh. - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/06/despite-trump-pittsburghs-working-on-slowing-climate-change-so-are-many-other-cities-and-states/?utm_term=.c299b24f3102)

Kentucky State Climatologist Says Extensive Data is Available for Decision Makers on Climate Change | WKU Public Radio (http://wkyufm.org/post/kentucky-state-climatologist-says-extensive-data-available-decision-makers-climate-change#stream/0)

graciegirl
06-06-2017, 11:15 AM
A degree by degree explanation of what will happen when the earth warms (http://globalwarming.berrens.nl/globalwarming.htm)

https://climate.nasa.gov

Quantifying the effects of climate change (https://phys.org/news/2017-06-quantifying-effects-climate.html)

Despite Trump, many cities and states are fighting climate change. Including Pittsburgh. - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/06/despite-trump-pittsburghs-working-on-slowing-climate-change-so-are-many-other-cities-and-states/?utm_term=.c299b24f3102)

Kentucky State Climatologist Says Extensive Data is Available for Decision Makers on Climate Change | WKU Public Radio (http://wkyufm.org/post/kentucky-state-climatologist-says-extensive-data-available-decision-makers-climate-change#stream/0)

Most intelligent people, even those who think it wise to pull out of the Paris agreement BELIEVE that climate change is happening.

It is what to do about it that is the problem. Standing stalwart together and singing songs and changing out your grass isn't getting anything done.

I say. Let's us Americans build turbines and figure out a way that solar energy is truly cost effective and try not to fart as much.

Don Baldwin
06-06-2017, 10:17 PM
Most intelligent people, even those who think it wise to pull out of the Paris agreement BELIEVE that climate change is happening.

It is what to do about it that is the problem. Standing stalwart together and singing songs and changing out your grass isn't getting anything done.

I say. Let's us Americans build turbines and figure out a way that solar energy is truly cost effective and try not to fart as much.

What intelligent people don't believe is that CO2 is responsible and must be severely limited. CO2 is nothing compared to the biggest greenhouse gas...water vapor...which is responsible for 90+% of heat retention.

The earth is warming naturally...it has been off an on since the last ice age ended. Are we helping? No. But we're not causing it either.

Besides...we have bigger problems here in America...the minority majority that is beginning to have an effect on our country. The country is 50:50 now...50% white...50% them.

wjboyer1
06-06-2017, 11:17 PM
What intelligent people don't believe is that CO2 is responsible and must be severely limited. CO2 is nothing compared to the biggest greenhouse gas...water vapor...which is responsible for 90+% of heat retention.

The earth is warming naturally...it has been off an on since the last ice age ended. Are we helping? No. But we're not causing it either.

Besides...we have bigger problems here in America...the minority majority that is beginning to have an effect on our country. The country is 50:50 now...50% white...50% them.

Sorry, but your conclusions are misinformed....water vapor IS a greenhouse element, but the WARMING of the Earth, that increases the water vapor in the atmosphere is caused by the increase of CO2, methane, and other gases, so that the warmth increases the evaporation of water and warm air will hold more water vapor than cold air......result is more violent storms in some areas, draught in other areas, the melting of glaciers and ice sheets in the Arctic, and Antarctica, and the acidification of the oceans causing coral death and ultimately fish populations to decrease to levels that are unsustainable for fishing, and eating.......to lower the level of this discussion to race is not only absurd, but shows the deep ignorance of the poster to the reality of the Earth's dilemma and the total racism of his/her intelligence. A certain person in the mid-thirties in Germany would probably be happy with your diatribe

rubicon
06-07-2017, 04:11 AM
The discussion about climate change is going to carry people to the same conclusion as gun control. Its a dichotomy you are either believe it or you do not believe it

Guns kill people so let have gun control..yet knives, vehicles seem to be the preferred choice of weapon these days

The planet was 1 degree warmer 6,000 years ago and it was reached without cars, buses, burning of coal...back then the religious cult would have blamed it on too many bison.

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin
06-07-2017, 06:02 AM
Sorry, but your conclusions are misinformed....water vapor IS a greenhouse element, but the WARMING of the Earth, that increases the water vapor in the atmosphere is caused by the increase of CO2, methane, and other gases, so that the warmth increases the evaporation of water and warm air will hold more water vapor than cold air......result is more violent storms in some areas, draught in other areas, the melting of glaciers and ice sheets in the Arctic, and Antarctica, and the acidification of the oceans causing coral death and ultimately fish populations to decrease to levels that are unsustainable for fishing, and eating.......to lower the level of this discussion to race is not only absurd, but shows the deep ignorance of the poster to the reality of the Earth's dilemma and the total racism of his/her intelligence. A certain person in the mid-thirties in Germany would probably be happy with your diatribe

No boyer...it is YOU who are misinformed...minorities are at the 50% point right now. Within 30 years America IS lost. Choose your crusade wisely.

Taltarzac725
06-07-2017, 07:28 AM
A degree by degree explanation of what will happen when the earth warms (http://globalwarming.berrens.nl/globalwarming.htm)

https://climate.nasa.gov

Quantifying the effects of climate change (https://phys.org/news/2017-06-quantifying-effects-climate.html)

Despite Trump, many cities and states are fighting climate change. Including Pittsburgh. - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/06/despite-trump-pittsburghs-working-on-slowing-climate-change-so-are-many-other-cities-and-states/?utm_term=.c299b24f3102)

Kentucky State Climatologist Says Extensive Data is Available for Decision Makers on Climate Change | WKU Public Radio (http://wkyufm.org/post/kentucky-state-climatologist-says-extensive-data-available-decision-makers-climate-change#stream/0)

Like these links. Keep trying to get the unreasonable to see reason.

Don Baldwin
06-07-2017, 07:42 AM
Like these links. Keep trying to get the unreasonable to see reason.

Climate IS changing it IS warming...but cutting CO2 emissions isn't going to stop it. CO2 is 0.04% of the atmosphere...CO2 is responsible for 3-4% of the greenhouse gas effects.

"In February 2016, the average global atmospheric CO2 level stood at 402.59 ppm. Prior to 1800, atmospheric CO2 averaged about 280 ppm."

"The big jump in CO2 is partially due to the current El Niño weather pattern, as forests, plantlife and other terrestrial systems responded to changes in weather, precipitation and drought. The largest previous increase occurred in 1998, also a strong El Niño year."

CO2 has gone up from 0.03 to 0.04% of the entire atmosphere. It's like adding one penny 10,000 pennies. It's insignificant. The whole CO2 meme is a money stealing scheme...pushed by Gore...who is NOW worth about $300 million.

net worth of al gore - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=net+worth+of+al+gore&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

Taltarzac725
06-07-2017, 07:49 AM
Inside the Quest to Monitor Countries' CO2 Emissions - Scientific American (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inside-the-quest-to-monitor-countries-co2-emissions/)

The EPA's page on Global Warming under Trump is interesting as you cannot get at it except via a screen safe. They are trying to control the remote for what we can see and cannot see.

EPA website removes climate science site from public view after two decades - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/04/28/epa-website-removes-climate-science-site-from-public-view-after-two-decades/?utm_term=.561765ebe68a)

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
06-07-2017, 09:06 AM
Most intelligent people, even those who think it wise to pull out of the Paris agreement BELIEVE that climate change is happening.

It is what to do about it that is the problem. Standing stalwart together and singing songs and changing out your grass isn't getting anything done.

I say. Let's us Americans build turbines and figure out a way that solar energy is truly cost effective and try not to fart as much.

That may be true, but there is not enough specific information here to make an informed judgment on what, if anything, should be or can be done about it.

Is this going to be a mild, temporary warming or is it going to be catastrophic? Is it something that we can actually do something about? I've read some things that say even if we follow the Paris agreement to the letter, it will do very little to change the future.

If we can delay or stop the warming, what will it cost? What would we be willing to give up?

Just to say that most intelligent people agree on something or that 97% of all scientist agree isn't saying very much.

On the other hand, there are 31,000 scientists that say that it's not happening.

31,000 scientists say "no convincing evidence". — OSS Foundation (http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/myths/31000-scientists-say-no-convincing-evidence)

On top of this is the fact that some of the people that have been pushing this global warming idea for the past couple of decades have become very wealthy doing it. Also, many of the things that were predicted to have happened by now have not happened.

How are we, as lay people, supposed to know what to believe?

Don Baldwin
06-07-2017, 09:16 AM
That may be true, but there is not enough specific information here to make an informed judgment on what, if anything, should be or can be done about it.

Is this going to be a mild, temporary warming or is it going to be catastrophic? Is it something that we can actually do something about? I've read some things that say even if we follow the Paris agreement to the letter, it will do very little to change the future.

If we can delay or stop the warming, what will it cost? What would we be willing to give up?

Just to say that most intelligent people agree on something or that 97% of all scientist agree isn't saying very much.

On the other hand, there are 31,000 scientists that say that it's not happening.

31,000 scientists say "no convincing evidence". — OSS Foundation (http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/myths/31000-scientists-say-no-convincing-evidence)

On top of this is the fact that some of the people that have been pushing this global warming idea for the past couple of decades have become very wealthy doing it. Also, many of the things that were predicted to have happened by now have not happened.

How are we, as lay people, supposed to know what to believe?

Follow the money...Gore is worth $300 million now...after trumpeting for global warming...need you know more?

Believe nothing...for the world is full of lies.

ColdNoMore
06-07-2017, 10:46 AM
That may be true, but there is not enough specific information here to make an informed judgment on what, if anything, should be or can be done about it.

Is this going to be a mild, temporary warming or is it going to be catastrophic? Is it something that we can actually do something about? I've read some things that say even if we follow the Paris agreement to the letter, it will do very little to change the future.

If we can delay or stop the warming, what will it cost? What would we be willing to give up?

On the other hand, there are 31,000 scientists that say that it's not happening.

31,000 scientists say "no convincing evidence". — OSS Foundation (http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/myths/31000-scientists-say-no-convincing-evidence)

On top of this is the fact that some of the people that have been pushing this global warming idea for the past couple of decades have become very wealthy doing it. Also, many of the things that were predicted to have happened by now have not happened.

How are we, as lay people, supposed to know what to believe?


Too funny, you didn't even bother to read your own link...which makes you look like a fool. :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

From your OWN link....
While polls of scientists actively working in the filed of climate science indicate strong general agreement that Earth is warming and human activity is a significant factor, 31,000 scientists say there is "no convincing evidence" that humans can or will cause "catastrophic" heating of the atmosphere.

Do '31,000 scientists say global warming is not real'? Maybe. But more importantly what is the significance of these signatures? The majority of signatures are engineers (10,102). 3,046 are in medicine. 2,965 are in biology, biochemistry and agriculture. 4,822 in chemistry and chemical engineering.

To participate in the petition one only needs to mark a check box to show that one has a Ph.D., M.S., or B.S. degree, and then fill in the fields.

Unfortunately, that means that anyone can sign the petition, whether they have a degree or not.

Only 12% of those who signed...

According to the data on the petition site, only 12% of those who signed the petition are indicated to have affiliation with atmosphere, earth, and environmental science. But there is no indication how many work in the field of climate science?

The next time you rush and Google something to use as a link, you really should read it first...so you won't have to wipe egg off of your face. :ho:


And then you say this? :oops:

Just to say that most intelligent people agree on something or that 97% of all scientist agree isn't saying very much.


But hey...we appreciate the guffaws. :D




Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

MDLNB
06-07-2017, 12:59 PM
First you have to prove that the earth is warming. Then you have to prove that man has anything to do with it. Get back to me when you can explain how you are going to stop the thermal warming.

Don Baldwin
06-07-2017, 01:07 PM
First you have to prove that the earth is warming. Then you have to prove that man has anything to do with it. Get back to me when you can explain how you are going to stop the thermal warming.

Glaciers are receding?

Money. Given to corporations. Who own the government that will give them the money.