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Bog99
10-14-2017, 05:26 AM
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Mainstream Media Publicly Shamed by 20,000 Americans - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsuekNDK_FI&list=PL6JjafE5gsb-2O9eOmHZbKAd5Nql5dtRw&index=57)
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ColdNoMore
10-14-2017, 07:46 AM
Exactly what is so amazing, that hardcore Trump cultists would boo those who actually write/speak the truth...that exposes their demi-God for the scumbag that he is? :ohdear:
mellincf
10-14-2017, 08:18 AM
YouTube versus CNN...yep, that's compelling. It's sad that so many Americans are brainwashed by Fox, the registered entertainment only channel, and that obese drug addicted sex offender, Rush Limbaugh.
Paper1
10-14-2017, 12:29 PM
I voted for Mitch Daniels in November and have very little use for Trump but I do understand why he was elected. CNN and MSNBC are simply following the model Fox News used during Obama years. CNN and MSNBC both, almost 24/7, interview guests that criticize everything Trump says or does. My routine in morning is listen to local news around 6 and then channel surf the “news” shows and almost surely CNN and MSNBC is bashing Trump and Fox is singing his praises. Market share drives what is reported. If anyone believes this is for anything but advertising dollars they need to stand back a couple steps and see what our once vital “watchdog media” has become. Bring back AlJazeera.
rubicon
10-14-2017, 01:21 PM
It is very disturbing that the Fourth Estate charged with the responsibility to speak the truth for the benefit of our society (voice of the people) has deteriorated to being nothing more than a "dog whistle"to left's agenda of informational cascades that distort the complexities of reality.
The Fourth Estate manifestly neglects its duties in favor of a blood libel against the man who beat their chosen one. The manner in which they report may be fanciful but it is not factual. The manner in which they address the moral questions is proven to predict their inability to answer the empirical ones. This is so because they are so preoccupied with the jittery pokery of "Trumpisms " that they neglect to inform citizens of the real threats both foreign and domestic.
Such irresponsibility to duty is now having "unintended consequences".
Personal Best Regards:
mellincf
10-14-2017, 01:50 PM
It is very disturbing that the Fourth Estate charged with the responsibility to speak the truth for the benefit of our society (voice of the people) has deteriorated to being nothing more than a "dog whistle"to left's agenda of informational cascades that distort the complexities of reality.
The Fourth Estate manifestly neglects its duties in favor of a blood libel against the man who beat their chosen one. The manner in which they report may be fanciful but it is not factual. The manner in which they address the moral questions is proven to predict their inability to answer the empirical ones. This is so because they are so preoccupied with the jittery pokery of "Trumpisms " that they neglect to inform citizens of the real threats both foreign and domestic.
Such irresponsibility to duty is now having "unintended consequences".
Personal Best Regards: If you were honest with yourself you would admit this country has never been in so much chaos, both foreign and domestic, in many years. What event has caused such significant international threats? The election of Trump. Globally, governments do not trust Trump and many openly scorn him. North Korea feels empowered to issue more and more threats, Iran laughs in our face, England, France, and Germany refuse to be coupled with our foreign policy. Outrage and pushback from Trump's war with the First Amendment, as well as acknowledgement of his constant lying, undermine this country. That's to say nothing about his personal moral behavior (Trump University, stealing from a kid's cancer charity, shutdown of his foundation due to fraud, and many other shady business practices).
Reporter Got Pentagon Emails Depicting Plans To Spin Puerto Rico As Positive Despite The Truth (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/13/1706670/-Reporter-Got-Pentagon-Emails-Depicting-Plans-To-Spin-Puerto-Rico-As-Positive-Despite-The-Truth?detail=emaildkre)
Trump Unpopular Worldwide, American Image Suffers | Pew Research Center (http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/)
Rockyrd
10-14-2017, 01:51 PM
It is very disturbing that the Fourth Estate charged with the responsibility to speak the truth for the benefit of our society (voice of the people) has deteriorated to being nothing more than a "dog whistle"to left's agenda of informational cascades that distort the complexities of reality.
The Fourth Estate manifestly neglects its duties in favor of a blood libel against the man who beat their chosen one. The manner in which they report may be fanciful but it is not factual. The manner in which they address the moral questions is proven to predict their inability to answer the empirical ones. This is so because they are so preoccupied with the jittery pokery of "Trumpisms " that they neglect to inform citizens of the real threats both foreign and domestic.
Such irresponsibility to duty is now having "unintended consequences".
Personal Best Regards:
You seem to always ignore this oft asked question.
PLEASE supply ONE instance of any mainstream media lying when reporting news. Not commentary.
PLEASE, as you accuse, NEVER providing any facts an instance of lying in reporting news.
What you do is the same as me calling Trump a liar, but not providing any substance, which I Always supply backup for.
So please stop accusing people of lying when you cannot supply any susbstantiatiin.
I also challenge you to refute charges of your hero President lying.
You continually harp, call names and then run away. I read your links on feminism, which seems to preoccupy you, but be a man and practice what you preach.
You constantly accuse me, personally, if running from issues.
THIS is an issue. Stand up and be counted. Give us an instance of mainstream lying in reporting news, and stand up and defend the presidential lying.
Why do you, a man opposed to feminism shy away, and simply yell and accuse. The men I know would never call someone, yet alone a generalized entire industry, liars and then run away. Not manly at all.
Then we can discuss your other baseless accusations about warning our country of threats, both foreign and domestic.
Who acts like you ?In the last months, you have accused almost every faction of society of so many things.. you make baseless charges with never one iota of any substantiation.
mellincf
10-14-2017, 01:58 PM
It is very disturbing that the Fourth Estate charged with the responsibility to speak the truth for the benefit of our society (voice of the people) has deteriorated to being nothing more than a "dog whistle"to left's agenda of informational cascades that distort the complexities of reality.
The Fourth Estate manifestly neglects its duties in favor of a blood libel against the man who beat their chosen one. The manner in which they report may be fanciful but it is not factual. The manner in which they address the moral questions is proven to predict their inability to answer the empirical ones. This is so because they are so preoccupied with the jittery pokery of "Trumpisms " that they neglect to inform citizens of the real threats both foreign and domestic.
Such irresponsibility to duty is now having "unintended consequences".
Personal Best Regards: The entire international press is worse toward Trump than our domestic press. So how do you explain that as a "libel against (the left's) chosen one"? This is direct from Der Spiegel: Donald Trump is not fit to be president of the United States. He does not possess the requisite intellect and does not understand the significance of the office he holds nor the tasks associated with it. He doesn't read. He doesn't bother to peruse important files and intelligence reports and knows little about the issues that he has identified as his priorities. His decisions are capricious and they are delivered in the form of tyrannical decrees.
He is a man free of morals. As has been demonstrated hundreds of times, he is a liar, a racist and a cheat. I feel ashamed to use these words, as sharp and loud as they are. But if they apply to anyone, they apply to Trump. And one of the media's tasks is to continue telling things as they are: Trump has to be removed from the White House. Quickly. He is a danger to the world.
Donald Trump Is a Menace to the World: Opinion - SPIEGEL ONLINE (http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/donald-trump-is-a-menace-to-the-world-opinion-a-1148471.html)
Rockyrd
10-14-2017, 02:07 PM
The entire international press is worse toward Trump than our domestic press. So how do you explain that as a "libel against (the left's) chosen one"? This is direct from Der Spiegel: Donald Trump is not fit to be president of the United States. He does not possess the requisite intellect and does not understand the significance of the office he holds nor the tasks associated with it. He doesn't read. He doesn't bother to peruse important files and intelligence reports and knows little about the issues that he has identified as his priorities. His decisions are capricious and they are delivered in the form of tyrannical decrees.
He is a man free of morals. As has been demonstrated hundreds of times, he is a liar, a racist and a cheat. I feel ashamed to use these words, as sharp and loud as they are. But if they apply to anyone, they apply to Trump. And one of the media's tasks is to continue telling things as they are: Trump has to be removed from the White House. Quickly. He is a danger to the world.
Donald Trump Is a Menace to the World: Opinion - SPIEGEL ONLINE (http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/donald-trump-is-a-menace-to-the-world-opinion-a-1148471.html)
RUBICON does not care. He makes baseless and incredible accusations against anyone who questions Trump.
He continually accuses me and others of avoiding issues, when I, and others present facts he ignores, ask questions he refuses to address.
Not sure what word to use for a person so self involved, so pompous that he feels above the world, and can simply stand in judgement of millions.
You are correct. The international press is even harder and mor critical if Trump, and now our country is looked at as having a dysfunctional President who is making a mockery of what used to be respected institutions.
Yet, we have Rubicon who I call again to stand up and stop attacking your fellow Americans and back up your nasty accusations.
Rockyrd
10-14-2017, 02:14 PM
For over 40 years I have managed television newsrooms and consulted the networks. For President Trump to write, "Network news has become so partisan, distorted and fake that licenses must be challenged and, if appropriate, revoked. Not fair to public!" is insulting.
The rigorous way each story is checked and rechecked for accuracy before being broadcast is part of the way the networks are critical of what they air each day. Everything that goes out to the public is sourced or attributed.
Instead of trying to silence anyone who becomes critical of the administration why not get down to business in dealing with nuclear threats, millions without power, a budget train wreck, taxes, education, healthcare and our infrastructure.
In Trump's war against the media, he's the only loser | TheHill (http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/355431-in-trumps-war-against-the-media-hes-the-only-loser)
Don Baldwin
10-14-2017, 02:56 PM
For over 40 years I have managed television newsrooms and consulted the networks. For President Trump to write, "Network news has become so partisan, distorted and fake that licenses must be challenged and, if appropriate, revoked. Not fair to public!" is insulting.
The rigorous way each story is checked and rechecked for accuracy before being broadcast is part of the way the networks are critical of what they air each day. Everything that goes out to the public is sourced or attributed.
Instead of trying to silence anyone who becomes critical of the administration why not get down to business in dealing with nuclear threats, millions without power, a budget train wreck, taxes, education, healthcare and our infrastructure.
In Trump's war against the media, he's the only loser | TheHill (http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/355431-in-trumps-war-against-the-media-hes-the-only-loser)
THIS is why women are too emotional to be rational...
Ha...really? EVERYTHING broadcast is COMPLETELY factual? Come on Rocky...be real.
You admit there's a "a budget train wreck"...and yet you want ALL THIS:
"education, healthcare and our infrastructure"
Do you think those things are FREE? Just because the ATM always spits out money when you put your card in...doesn't mean that money is free. A MAN put that money there for you...a father, husband, or the government.
We already borrow over $1 trillion a year...to get everything YOU want...we'd have to borrow $3 trillion...maybe more.
Things need to balance...government isn't a "daddy" with unlimited funds. Lets talk about reducing the population by half and making ALL minorities go away. THAT would make America great again. A white 90% majority and white men running things again. America...western civilization...peaked under those conditions.
Rockyrd
10-14-2017, 03:00 PM
THIS is why women are too emotional to be rational...
Ha...really? EVERYTHING broadcast is COMPLETELY factual? Come on Rocky...be real.
You admit there's a "a budget train wreck"...and yet you want ALL THIS:
"education, healthcare and our infrastructure"
Do you think those things are FREE? Just because the ATM always spits out money when you put your card in...doesn't mean that money is free. A MAN put that money there for you...a father, husband, or the government.
We already borrow over $1 trillion a year...to get everything YOU want...we'd have to borrow $3 trillion...maybe more.
Things need to balance...government isn't a "daddy" with unlimited funds. Lets talk about reducing the population by half and making them ALL minorities going away. THAT would make America great again. A white 90% majority and white men running things again. America...western civilization...peaked under those conditions.
Do not misrepresent.
I want to know why people attack the media for lying when they don't, and do it without ever supplying any evidnce. Mainstream, not the whacky sites.
I want to know why people accept Trumps lies and never ever defend his lying ?
Bog99
10-14-2017, 03:02 PM
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Don Baldwin
10-14-2017, 03:23 PM
Do not misrepresent.
I want to know why people attack the media for lying when they don't, and do it without ever supplying any evidnce. Mainstream, not the whacky sites.
I want to know why people accept Trumps lies and never ever defend his lying ?
Because the MAINSTREAM places are lying to you and SOMETIMES the "wacky sites" are telling the truth.
EVERYTHING...I'll write that again...EVERYTHING the media says about the military IS suspect...propaganda is part of military operations.
I'm tiring of you Rocky...you're like a 7 y/o little boy who keeps asking...why daddy...why daddy. I'm not in the mood to teach you tonight.
Notice I didn't say little girl asking why? Little girls are too busy talking...about the other kids. Women...always worried about what OTHERS are doing.
Bog99
10-14-2017, 03:31 PM
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/why-femo-fascists-such-floozies-247753/
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Rockyrd
10-14-2017, 03:47 PM
Because the MAINSTREAM places are lying to you and SOMETIMES the "wacky sites" are telling the truth.
EVERYTHING...I'll write that again...EVERYTHING the media says about the military IS suspect...propaganda is part of military operations.
I'm tiring of you Rocky...you're like a 7 y/o little boy who keeps asking...why daddy...why daddy. I'm not in the mood to teach you tonight.
Notice I didn't say little girl asking why? Little girls are too busy talking...about the other kids. Women...always worried about what OTHERS are doing.
Not why....
Just asking you to back up your stupid words.
I will take one example of the MSM lying about the news. Or shut up
rubicon
10-15-2017, 05:37 AM
To all those who countered to my post let me say that my post was generic and politically neutral. never once did I even speak about Trump let alone defend him
My comments criticized the Fourth Estate's of absolving their responsibility to report news event factually, objectively and without bias. In that again I did not exclude any such organization.
The fundamental issue is of great importance because none of us are getting the truth. the advent of technology ( ie google, face book i phone internet) makes it possible to report fake news and to suppress one's point of view.
Yet here we are with posters missing the big picture. this thread is not about Trump or Rubicon. it is about the deterioration of our news media which we all rely on to know truly what is happening in our nation. Instead they have become propaganda mills of self interest and tabloid nonsense.
Personal Best Regards:
Bog99
10-15-2017, 06:14 AM
To all those who countered to my post let me say that my post was generic and politically neutral. never once did I even speak about Trump let alone defend him
My comments criticized the Fourth Estate's of absolving their responsibility to report news event factually, objectively and without bias. In that again I did not exclude any such organization.
The fundamental issue is of great importance because none of us are getting the truth. the advent of technology ( ie google, face book i phone internet) makes it possible to report fake news and to suppress one's point of view.
Yet here we are with posters missing the big picture. this thread is not about Trump or Rubicon. it is about the deterioration of our news media which we all rely on to know truly what is happening in our nation. Instead they have become propaganda mills of self interest and tabloid nonsense.
Personal Best Regards:
What do you expect in a Femo-Fascist regime?
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/does-anyone-here-understand-type-2-legislation-247854/
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/femo-fascism-cancer-western-civilization-247815/
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/how-rid-senate-femo-fascist-idiots-247586/
Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 06:19 AM
To all those who countered to my post let me say that my post was generic and politically neutral. never once did I even speak about Trump let alone defend him
My comments criticized the Fourth Estate's of absolving their responsibility to report news event factually, objectively and without bias. In that again I did not exclude any such organization.
The fundamental issue is of great importance because none of us are getting the truth. the advent of technology ( ie google, face book i phone internet) makes it possible to report fake news and to suppress one's point of view.
Yet here we are with posters missing the big picture. this thread is not about Trump or Rubicon. it is about the deterioration of our news media which we all rely on to know truly what is happening in our nation. Instead they have become propaganda mills of self interest and tabloid nonsense.
Personal Best Regards:
AGAIN....you make accusations and I asked you to provide an instance of the MSM lying in reporting about Trump, and once again, you dodge the question.
NO, the thread is about RUBICON and Trump....you and Trump make accusations toward a group of people BUT NEVER EVER SUPPLY ANY BACK UP........NEVER EVER
As we see with Trump, it is so easy just to accuse people but never be able to back it up.
You are like two peas in a pod.......both lie....both condemn others with labels.....and both never are able to back up what they say
YOu are correct with your hints at how fake news is spread and maybe if you read anything but your whacko websites, you will see that everybody knows that and the vast amount of fake news spread on those sites was from those who support Trump
dirtbanker
10-15-2017, 06:46 AM
AGAIN....you make accusations and I asked you to provide an instance of the MSM lying in reporting about Trump, and once again, you dodge the question.
NO, the thread is about RUBICON and Trump....you and Trump make accusations toward a group of people BUT NEVER EVER SUPPLY ANY BACK UP........NEVER EVER
As we see with Trump, it is so easy just to accuse people but never be able to back it up.
You are like two peas in a pod.......both lie....both condemn others with labels.....and both never are able to back up what they say
YOu are correct with your hints at how fake news is spread and maybe if you read anything but your whacko websites, you will see that everybody knows that and the vast amount of fake news spread on those sites was from those who support Trump
Here you go "drama fag":
Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Was Caught Telling FORTY Lies | Daily Wire (http://www.dailywire.com/news/13294/fake-news-rap-sheet-last-week-msm-was-caught-john-nolte)
By the way; you lie too...
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Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 07:33 AM
Here you go "drama fag":
Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Was Caught Telling FORTY Lies | Daily Wire (http://www.dailywire.com/news/13294/fake-news-rap-sheet-last-week-msm-was-caught-john-nolte)
By the way; you lie too...
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First, I suggest you read about the fellow who IS The Daily Wire.
Mr Shapiro is a known white supremicist. He has also authored many satire stories.
But even with that, I gave it a look. Read it....it makes no sense. He simply doesn't like what people say, but offers no lies at all.
Plus, you folks say the media lies in the news,....that you cannot ever prove...they do not. Commentary is not news.
Your source..one conspiracy after another
Ben Shapiro - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro)
Don Baldwin
10-15-2017, 08:00 AM
First, I suggest you read about the fellow who IS The Daily Wire.
Mr Shapiro is a known white supremicist. He has also authored many satire stories.
But even with that, I gave it a look. Read it....it makes no sense. He simply doesn't like what people say, but offers no lies at all.
Plus, you folks say the media lies in the news,....that you cannot ever prove...they do not. Commentary is not news.
Your source..one conspiracy after another
Ben Shapiro - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro)
OK...he's smart...he "knows the score"...he knows white people ARE superior to negros. WHY do you make that a crime?
Are you superior to a 3 y/o? Meaning can you do more than a 3 y/o? Do you know more than a 3 y/o? Should a 3 y/o get preference because you are superior?
Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 08:53 AM
There is a thread on the forum concerning Nietzsche, and it calls to mind and has relativity to this thread.
"Nietzsche fancied himself a prophet of things to come – and not long after Donald Trump won the presidency, the Oxford Dictionaries declared the international word of the year 2016 to be “post-truth”.
Indeed, one of the characteristics of Trump’s campaign was its scorn for facts and the truth. Trump himself unabashedly made any claim that seemed fit for his purpose of being elected: that crime levels are sky-high, that climate change is a Chinese hoax, that he’d never called it a Chinese hoax, and so on. But the exposure of his constant contradictions and untruths didn’t stop him. He won.
Nietzsche offers us a way of understanding how this happened. As he saw it, once we realise that the idea of an absolute, objective truth is a philosophical hoax, the only alternative is a position called “perspectivism” – the idea there is no one objective way the world is, only perspectives on what the world is like.
This might seem outlandish. After all, surely we all agree certain things are objectively true: Trump’s predecessor as president is Barack Obama, the capital of France is Paris, and so on. But according to perspectivism, we agree on those things not because these propositions are “objectively true”, but by virtue of sharing the same perspective."
This is from the link supplied in that thread....
The post-truth era of Trump is just what Nietzsche predicted (https://theconversation.com/the-post-truth-era-of-trump-is-just-what-nietzsche-predicted-69093)
Interesting it speaks to perspectives.
Also this morning a poster used a link to a known white supremicist and extreme right wing blogger.
When we read ONLY that kind of tripe, and it is tripe, our perspectives become so mixed up and confused, we lose touch with reality.
If you read only PRO Trump or hard right extreme websites, you WILL lose all touch with reality. Same thing applies to those on the left who only will listen to the extreme.
Trump is setting up new reality NOT based on truth. Part of that is to condemn the MSM because they report facts in news, and are not trying to change your perspective but to inform.
If you lose the need to get informed, and only want to feed the perspective you want, this is what you get.
The media does not lie..they present facts in the news, and if you find it not acceptable, then react to the facts, not some jerk off making money by selling extreme ideas on a website.
Read the news and see how that was used AGAINST US during the election in what was NOT a hoax, but an invasion by a foreign country.
dirtbanker
10-15-2017, 09:15 AM
First, I suggest you read about the fellow who IS The Daily Wire.
Mr Shapiro is a known white supremicist. He has also authored many satire stories.
But even with that, I gave it a look. Read it....it makes no sense. He simply doesn't like what people say, but offers no lies at all.
Plus, you folks say the media lies in the news,....that you cannot ever prove...they do not. Commentary is not news.
Your source..one conspiracy after another
Ben Shapiro - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro)
You don't like daily wire because no white supremacist can tell the truth... you don't like Breitbart because they don't say what you like to hear... You don't like Fox News because they don't say what you like to hear...
I guess it's just MSM and NBC News for you, they are the only ones that say it the way you want to hear it... and that makes it the truth.
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Don Baldwin
10-15-2017, 09:28 AM
There is a thread on the forum concerning Nietzsche, and it calls to mind and has relativity to this thread.
"Nietzsche fancied himself a prophet of things to come – and not long after Donald Trump won the presidency, the Oxford Dictionaries declared the international word of the year 2016 to be “post-truth”.
Indeed, one of the characteristics of Trump’s campaign was its scorn for facts and the truth. Trump himself unabashedly made any claim that seemed fit for his purpose of being elected: that crime levels are sky-high, that climate change is a Chinese hoax, that he’d never called it a Chinese hoax, and so on. But the exposure of his constant contradictions and untruths didn’t stop him. He won.
Nietzsche offers us a way of understanding how this happened. As he saw it, once we realise that the idea of an absolute, objective truth is a philosophical hoax, the only alternative is a position called “perspectivism” – the idea there is no one objective way the world is, only perspectives on what the world is like.
This might seem outlandish. After all, surely we all agree certain things are objectively true: Trump’s predecessor as president is Barack Obama, the capital of France is Paris, and so on. But according to perspectivism, we agree on those things not because these propositions are “objectively true”, but by virtue of sharing the same perspective."
This is from the link supplied in that thread....
The post-truth era of Trump is just what Nietzsche predicted (https://theconversation.com/the-post-truth-era-of-trump-is-just-what-nietzsche-predicted-69093)
Interesting it speaks to perspectives.
Also this morning a poster used a link to a known white supremicist and extreme right wing blogger.
When we read ONLY that kind of tripe, and it is tripe, our perspectives become so mixed up and confused, we lose touch with reality.
If you read only PRO Trump or hard right extreme websites, you WILL lose all touch with reality. Same thing applies to those on the left who only will listen to the extreme.
Trump is setting up new reality NOT based on truth. Part of that is to condemn the MSM because they report facts in news, and are not trying to change your perspective but to inform.
If you lose the need to get informed, and only want to feed the perspective you want, this is what you get.
The media does not lie..they present facts in the news, and if you find it not acceptable, then react to the facts, not some jerk off making money by selling extreme ideas on a website.
Read the news and see how that was used AGAINST US during the election in what was NOT a hoax, but an invasion by a foreign country.
The 1960s began the era of "post-truth". Equality is ALL lies.
Crime levels ARE sky high...in "diverse" places...places that have high percentages of minorities. Places like S and W Chicago, Baltimore, E St Louis.
Well duh...WE each see the world through our own eyes. And we perceive based on our past experiences. EVERYTHING is relative. But there ARE "truths". Blacks DO destroy everything they touch.
There you go...being all biased. Maybe it's NOT tripe...maybe it IS the truth. Mainstream media is a propaganda machine...just like in Germany in the 1930s.
The media DOES lie...often.
You don't like daily wire because no white supremacist can tell the truth... you don't like Breitbart because they don't say what you like to hear... You don't like Fox News because they don't say what you like to hear...
I guess it's just MSM and NBC News for you, they are the only ones that say it the way you want to hear it... and that makes it the truth.
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ALL part of divide and conquer.
Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 09:31 AM
The 1960s began the era of "post-truth". Equality is ALL lies.
Crime levels ARE sky high...in "diverse" places...places that have high percentages of minorities. Places like S and W Chicago, Baltimore, E St Louis.
Well duh...WE each see the world through our own eyes. And we perceive based on our past experiences. EVERYTHING is relative. But there ARE "truths". Blacks DO destroy everything they touch.
There you go...being all biased. Maybe it's NOT tripe...maybe it IS the truth. Mainstream media is a propaganda machine...just like in Germany in the 1930s.
The media DOES lie...often.
ALL part of divide and conquer.
You have completely lost touch with reality.
Take a time out....for a long long time.
Why would I read a website or source that lies and tells mistruths or half truths ?
Does that not defy any reason ?
I am not a white supremicist or hate monger so why would I listen or read some sickos sharing who they hate.
This country needs to stop with the hate, accusations, etc and start to listen and talk.
I realize that is outside your reality
Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 09:36 AM
You don't like daily wire because no white supremacist can tell the truth... you don't like Breitbart because they don't say what you like to hear... You don't like Fox News because they don't say what you like to hear...
I guess it's just MSM and NBC News for you, they are the only ones that say it the way you want to hear it... and that makes it the truth.
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Your assumption about my reading or watching is coming from your false sense of reality.
I watch Fox....I watch all the network and cable news as well. I also read and I insure I read BOTH sides if there are two sides.
Fox simply OMITS things that are part of the story or as in the last week, headline the Hollywood crap. I prefer not to hear all of that stuff.
I make sure I read both sides of the political spectrum. I find that the FACTS on MSM are the same, even thought people on here are screaming about lying...the only lies are those on video or direct quotes from our President.
My objection to Fox is they simply do not report anything everything, and do not even do much NEWS. Fox has become a lot of commentary with a lot of gals with short skirts talking as if they know something.
i think Shep Smith does a good job, but you folks call him a fag, etc because he DOES report the news
Don Baldwin
10-15-2017, 09:51 AM
You have completely lost touch with reality.
Take a time out....for a long long time.
Why would I read a website or source that lies and tells mistruths or half truths ?
Does that not defy any reason ?
I am not a white supremicist or hate monger so why would I listen or read some sickos sharing who they hate.
This country needs to stop with the hate, accusations, etc and start to listen and talk.
I realize that is outside your reality
Actually...I'm quite grounded.
Because you don't KNOW what IS true and what isn't. Do you believe the races are equal? Then you DON'T know the truth. You won't find that on the mainstream propaganda outlets.
It's quite reasonable to want to know EVERY side of a situation.
Because maybe you SHOULD hate too? We're being overrun...bred out...it's time WE stand up for OUR rights and OUR race.
Sure...lets talk...but we MUST speak the truth. NAME one thing besides the NBA and NFL where blacks are actually equal.
Your assumption about my reading or watching is coming from your false sense of reality.
I watch Fox....I watch all the network and cable news as well. I also read and I insure I read BOTH sides if there are two sides.
Fox simply OMITS things that are part of the story or as in the last week, headline the Hollywood crap. I prefer not to hear all of that stuff.
I make sure I read both sides of the political spectrum. I find that the FACTS on MSM are the same, even thought people on here are screaming about lying...the only lies are those on video or direct quotes from our President.
My objection to Fox is they simply do not report anything everything, and do not even do much NEWS. Fox has become a lot of commentary with a lot of gals with short skirts talking as if they know something.
i think Shep Smith does a good job, but you folks call him a fag, etc because he DOES report the news
There are MORE than 2 sides...2 sides is what the propaganda machine WANTS you to believe. Divide and conquer.
Again...2 sides, 2 parties...divide and conquer.
Because that's the party line...what they WANT you to "know"...which is many times a lie. Take race...you'll NEVER get the truth on MSM.
How about here? Fat ladies in mumu's talking as if they know something. How many..show of hands...have been to MLK Blvd yet as I've asked so you can see for yourself that I'm being truthful...they are NOT like us...how many?
Because he IS gay.
Abby10
10-15-2017, 10:02 AM
First, I suggest you read about the fellow who IS The Daily Wire.
Mr Shapiro is a known white supremicist. He has also authored many satire stories.
But even with that, I gave it a look. Read it....it makes no sense. He simply doesn't like what people say, but offers no lies at all.
Plus, you folks say the media lies in the news,....that you cannot ever prove...they do not. Commentary is not news.
Your source..one conspiracy after another
Ben Shapiro - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro)
Still trying to digest all the info in this thread, but this stands out to me. Could you provide proof of this statement? I have seen where he was accused of being a white supremacist, but never saw any evidence of that.
Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 10:13 AM
Still trying to digest all the info in this thread, but this stands out to me. Could you provide proof of this statement? I have seen where he was accused of being a white supremacist, but never saw any evidence of that.
Actually leaving right now but will address this when I return.
I do know that he does not like your hero, Trump for many of the same reasons I do not....."But his overriding focus this campaign season has been on Trump, whom he views as not only a fake Republican, but a legitimately dangerous figure."
Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/ben-shapiros-messy-breakup-with-breitbart.html)
He spends too much time discussing race, ethnicity, etc for me. He and others from Briebart make this a career, discussing others religions and color
Bog99
10-15-2017, 10:18 AM
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https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/cant-you-stupid-femo-fascists-do-anything-besides-hen-party-247956/
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Abby10
10-15-2017, 11:02 AM
Actually leaving right now but will address this when I return.
I do know that he does not like your hero, Trump for many of the same reasons I do not....."But his overriding focus this campaign season has been on Trump, whom he views as not only a fake Republican, but a legitimately dangerous figure."
Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/ben-shapiros-messy-breakup-with-breitbart.html)
He spends too much time discussing race, ethnicity, etc for me. He and others from Briebart make this a career, discussing others religions and color
Will be interested in hearing more as this piece does not seem to back your statement. It seems HE is the one who is being attacked. Anyway, I've listened to him in the past and have not gotten the same feel as you have. I don't remember him focusing on race, etc, in his lectures.
I know he did not like Trump. Believe it or not, one does not have to be a Trump supporter for me to think they are worthy of an ear. In fact, it looks as if he and I may have voted for the same candidate in the primaries. Unlike you, and probably him, I couldn't vote for a candidate in the general election who had no chance of winning and thereby possibly throw the election to Hillary. I'm not saying that in judgment, just that personally I couldn't have done it.
graciegirl
10-15-2017, 11:07 AM
Will be interested in hearing more as this piece does not seem to back your statement. It seems HE is the one who is being attacked. Anyway, I've listened to him in the past and have not gotten the same feel as you have. I don't remember him focusing on race, etc, in his lectures.
I know he did not like Trump. Believe it or not, one does not have to be a Trump supporter for me to think they are worthy of an ear. In fact, it looks as if he and I may have voted for the same candidate in the primaries. Unlike you, and probably him, I couldn't vote for a candidate in the general election who had no chance of winning and thereby possibly throw the election to Hillary. I'm not saying that in judgment, just that personally I couldn't have done it.
I think this is a good post.
What a lot of people don't understand is that a lot of Trump voters were voting against both the Democrat and Republican parties. The continued bunch of extremism from both sides. The forced politically correct things we were expected to say. We got a lot of unexpected stuff, but none of it is as bad as Hillary would have been, in my opinion.
Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 12:27 PM
I think this is a good post.
What a lot of people don't understand is that a lot of Trump voters were voting against both the Democrat and Republican parties. The continued bunch of extremism from both sides. The forced politically correct things we were expected to say. We got a lot of unexpected stuff, but none of it is as bad as Hillary would have been, in my opinion.
Well you know how I feel about Hillary Clinton Gracie...and for those of you who called me various names, just search the user name BUCCO and you will find my feelings.
I do understand much of the voting and why...that is easy.
What I do not understand is the allowance given to the White House to destroy the institution of the Presdency and to destroy our reputation in foreign lands. By reputation, many feel that is a macho thing.....gee....we are so strong, etc, but I am speaking of honesty and integrity. NOBODY in the world trusts us any more because of what exudes from the Presidency.
I do understand the vote, but supporting this total and complete denigration of america is well beyond me. To actually support the condemnation of our first ammendment....to actually support the false accusations...to actually support the hate that comes from our White House is just not acceptable, but you still support it.
It cant be because he is accomplishing anything....not one piece of legislation...he certainly does not stand for anything at all. He is more of a liberal than a Republican in all ways.
Yet, he has your support and all of this support seems to be predicated on his hate of certain groups, all social.
You can say what you want, and I will support on the election but your are responsible for your support from here. To hear him parade young boys in hate chants or love chants on him....to hear him totally destroy war hero's with his words.....to hear what he says about anyone who might disagree with him....to hear you support his lack of even a small amount of respect for what made this country great is simply demoralizing.
You may think it is great and macho what he says....I think it is disgraceful and mean spirited, and violates all that great men have fought for and died for over the years. His brand of false and phony patriotism does nothing for me.......he is about himself and his family.
There is so much evidence, factual despite his personal attacks on reporters or the media, YET you still support him...are silent in his terrible performance as a leader.
Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 12:46 PM
Will be interested in hearing more as this piece does not seem to back your statement. It seems HE is the one who is being attacked. Anyway, I've listened to him in the past and have not gotten the same feel as you have. I don't remember him focusing on race, etc, in his lectures.
I know he did not like Trump. Believe it or not, one does not have to be a Trump supporter for me to think they are worthy of an ear. In fact, it looks as if he and I may have voted for the same candidate in the primaries. Unlike you, and probably him, I couldn't vote for a candidate in the general election who had no chance of winning and thereby possibly throw the election to Hillary. I'm not saying that in judgment, just that personally I couldn't have done it.
While watching the NFL today, I will do some reading on my iPad.
Perhaps all I ever saw was remarks on race, religion, etc. I am interested in our nation..ALL OF US, and thus have a tendency to ignore comments that are aimed at slotting Americans into cage with a label.
Plus, I do not ever visit any of the sites he is associated with, but promise to do some reading.
I responded to Gracie right away because I hate to be talked down to. When you start out by saying...what a lot of people don't understand, flags go up. If you don't understand, why would you even be on a political forum ?
I get it...I undersatand and to try and insure your superiority of knowledge when I know more than the person putting me in my place...it is offensive to me.
Glad you are not judging my vote...most on here seem to just mock it.
Neither candidate in my opinion deserved even consideration, and shame on the parties and the primary system. BUT, as I said to Gracie....the reason does not allow any American to support a person who is doing to our country what he is doing.
To hope a 70 year old man who has lived a disgraceful, immoral, racially motivated, egoititical life to change is just not a Bit reasonable to me. It just defies logic, and one year in, almost, he makes my point. Monetary success does not make a man. Weinstein was successful, just like Trump, and they both behaved like pigs in their personal life. Would you vote for Weinstein ?
Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 01:28 PM
Will be interested in hearing more as this piece does not seem to back your statement. It seems HE is the one who is being attacked. Anyway, I've listened to him in the past and have not gotten the same feel as you have. I don't remember him focusing on race, etc, in his lectures.
I know he did not like Trump. Believe it or not, one does not have to be a Trump supporter for me to think they are worthy of an ear. In fact, it looks as if he and I may have voted for the same candidate in the primaries. Unlike you, and probably him, I couldn't vote for a candidate in the general election who had no chance of winning and thereby possibly throw the election to Hillary. I'm not saying that in judgment, just that personally I couldn't have done it.
First, that did not take long.
I actually agree with this man on most. Perhaps all the quotes I have read, and from my small taste, might be correct, had to do with religion, or race.
I read a number of articles on him, both pro and con.
Let me give you his statement, that on the surface I agree with totally.....
"I will never vote for Donald Trump because I stand with certain principles. I stand with small government and free markets and religious freedom and personal responsibility. Donald Trump stands against all of these things. He stands for Planned Parenthood and trade restrictions and targeting of political enemies and an anti-morality foreign policy and government domination of religion and nastiness toward women and tacit appeals to racism and unbounded personal power. I stand with the Constitution of theUnited States, and its embedded protection of my God-given rights through governmental checks and balances. Donald Trump does not. I stand with conservatism. Donald Trump stands against it.
I stand with #NeverTrump."
Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/ben-shapiros-messy-breakup-with-breitbart.html)
This I agree with. Those who think they furthered conservatism or morals by supporting this person are so very very wrong.
This following comment was just a note in anothr article, but so very correct. It is also something I have tried to say many times, but on here the Trump folks look at everything as you are either with or against....they believe they are supporting conservatism, but that is bunk. They are supporting the extreme..very extreme alt right...
"Constitutional conservatives can’t stand the alt-right. Conservatives — real conservatives — believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passé; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It’s a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism."
The Breitbart alt-right just took over the GOP - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/18/the-breitbart-alt-right-just-took-over-the-gop/?utm_term=.b7bf5f0b3428)
And lastly, a link to a piece criticizing him which you may want to read.
The Hollow Bravery of Ben Shapiro - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/opinion/ben-shapiro.html)
Thanks for being stubborn because I will pay more attention to him, although because of my reading, I re read the initial link on the media and thought it was contrived, not a realistic depiction of NEWS inaccuracy, and in some cases, in my opinion a false result was shown.
But, he and I share many viewpoints and those on here who think Trump is a conservative hero might oay attention.
He is a alt right extremist. I believe that can be fatal to this country. You, in my opinion, have false hopes for this President, and become part of the problem by supporting him. The bigotry, and apparent need to further our divides, along with what can only be called a total lack of morals and character is beyond troubling. He lied his way in, and is lying still.
Bog99
10-15-2017, 01:39 PM
First, that did not take long.
I actually agree with this man on most. Perhaps all the quotes I have read, and from my small taste, might be correct, had to do with religion, or race.
I read a number of articles on him, both pro and con.
Let me give you his statement, that on the surface I agree with totally.....
"I will never vote for Donald Trump because I stand with certain principles. I stand with small government and free markets and religious freedom and personal responsibility. Donald Trump stands against all of these things. He stands for Planned Parenthood and trade restrictions and targeting of political enemies and an anti-morality foreign policy and government domination of religion and nastiness toward women and tacit appeals to racism and unbounded personal power. I stand with the Constitution of theUnited States, and its embedded protection of my God-given rights through governmental checks and balances. Donald Trump does not. I stand with conservatism. Donald Trump stands against it.
I stand with #NeverTrump."
Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/ben-shapiros-messy-breakup-with-breitbart.html)
This I agree with. Those who think they furthered conservatism or morals by supporting this person are so very very wrong.
This following comment was just a note in anothr article, but so very correct. It is also something I have tried to say many times, but on here the Trump folks look at everything as you are either with or against....they believe they are supporting conservatism, but that is bunk. They are supporting the extreme..very extreme alt right...
"Constitutional conservatives can’t stand the alt-right. Conservatives — real conservatives — believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passé; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It’s a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism."
The Breitbart alt-right just took over the GOP - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/18/the-breitbart-alt-right-just-took-over-the-gop/?utm_term=.b7bf5f0b3428)
And lastly, a link to a piece criticizing him which you may want to read.
The Hollow Bravery of Ben Shapiro - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/opinion/ben-shapiro.html)
Thanks for being stubborn because I will pay more attention to him, although because of my reading, I re read the initial link on the media and thought it was contrived, not a realistic depiction of NEWS inaccuracy, and in some cases, in my opinion a false result was shown.
But, he and I share many viewpoints and those on here who think Trump is a conservative hero might oay attention.
He is a alt right extremist. I believe that can be fatal to this country. You, in my opinion, have false hopes for this President, and become part of the problem by supporting him. The bigotry, and apparent need to further our divides, along with what can only be called a total lack of morals and character is beyond troubling. He lied his way in, and is lying still.
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https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/cant-you-stupid-femo-fascists-do-anything-besides-hen-party-247956/
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Abby10
10-15-2017, 02:25 PM
First, that did not take long.
I actually agree with this man on most. Perhaps all the quotes I have read, and from my small taste, might be correct, had to do with religion, or race.
I read a number of articles on him, both pro and con.
Let me give you his statement, that on the surface I agree with totally.....
"I will never vote for Donald Trump because I stand with certain principles. I stand with small government and free markets and religious freedom and personal responsibility. Donald Trump stands against all of these things. He stands for Planned Parenthood and trade restrictions and targeting of political enemies and an anti-morality foreign policy and government domination of religion and nastiness toward women and tacit appeals to racism and unbounded personal power. I stand with the Constitution of theUnited States, and its embedded protection of my God-given rights through governmental checks and balances. Donald Trump does not. I stand with conservatism. Donald Trump stands against it.
I stand with #NeverTrump."
Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/ben-shapiros-messy-breakup-with-breitbart.html)
This I agree with. Those who think they furthered conservatism or morals by supporting this person are so very very wrong.
This following comment was just a note in anothr article, but so very correct. It is also something I have tried to say many times, but on here the Trump folks look at everything as you are either with or against....they believe they are supporting conservatism, but that is bunk. They are supporting the extreme..very extreme alt right...
"Constitutional conservatives can’t stand the alt-right. Conservatives — real conservatives — believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passé; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It’s a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism."
The Breitbart alt-right just took over the GOP - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/18/the-breitbart-alt-right-just-took-over-the-gop/?utm_term=.b7bf5f0b3428)
And lastly, a link to a piece criticizing him which you may want to read.
The Hollow Bravery of Ben Shapiro - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/opinion/ben-shapiro.html)
Thanks for being stubborn because I will pay more attention to him, although because of my reading, I re read the initial link on the media and thought it was contrived, not a realistic depiction of NEWS inaccuracy, and in some cases, in my opinion a false result was shown.
But, he and I share many viewpoints and those on here who think Trump is a conservative hero might oay attention.
He is a alt right extremist. I believe that can be fatal to this country. You, in my opinion, have false hopes for this President, and become part of the problem by supporting him. The bigotry, and apparent need to further our divides, along with what can only be called a total lack of morals and character is beyond troubling. He lied his way in, and is lying still.
You make some good points and I will take a look at those links when I get a chance......getting ready to go out here shortly myself. Just one quick question I have for you in the meantime. What is it you think that those of us who appear to continue to support Trump, should do at this point? I ask this, not facetiously or sarcastically, but honestly. My viewpoint is that he is our President, and like him or not, I would want this country to succeed not fail. Let me further explain that since my background comes from one that is more faith based than some, I always believe that God is in the details and I know He can use people for good whether they are His people or not. In saying that, maybe you will understand why my viewpoint is one of more optimism than another person's. I can't control whether he is the President or not at this point and I don't think spending my time tearing him down is going to help or change anything, nor is it good for my well-being. Your thoughts?
Hey, it's Sunday.......I had to throw my "sermon" in there.
Rockyrd
10-15-2017, 02:48 PM
You make some good points and I will take a look at those links when I get a chance......getting ready to go out here shortly myself. Just one quick question I have for you in the meantime. What is it you think that those of us who appear to continue to support Trump, should do at this point? I ask this, not facetiously or sarcastically, but honestly. My viewpoint is that he is our President, and like him or not, I would want this country to succeed not fail. Let me further explain that since my background comes from one that is more faith based than some, I always believe that God is in the details and I know He can use people for good whether they are His people or not. In saying that, maybe you will understand why my viewpoint is one of more optimism than another person's. I can't control whether he is the President or not at this point and I don't think spending my time tearing him down is going to help or change anything, nor is it good for my well-being. Your thoughts?
Hey, it's Sunday.......I had to throw my "sermon" in there.
Great question.
I do not know. I DO know that the acceptance of all his incredible misbehavior and the dismissal of the media as liars and the fact that people who are now becoming accustomed to such terrible, gross behavior by our President should GREATLY concern all Americans.
We have a poster, Rubicon who has diagnosed me and others with a syndrome. I am attacked as some sort of closet Clinton supporter. And wish that was the only attack, but the acceptance that comes so easy to you and others will just stay with you, and I think it is called gradualism.
I simply want people to make decisions based on truth, not lies. I want to disagree with our President, no matter his policies, on substance if policies. I want to stop attacking our hard working government folks because they do not like him, or more importantly do not trust him.
We are allowing by submitting a very new low standard be set.
No, nobody on here will change the world, but this "sickness" is spreading, helped of course by our President who actually thinks investigating a factual intrusion is a hoax. Read the reactions Trump supporters have, or the racial component visible always with him. If nobody cares..if nobody objects it simply gets worse.
Abby, I am not preaching. ThevTrump supporters on this forum fit the general rule, and don't attack..there are real exceptions but for the most part treat this like a Jim Jones type thing. Even though he lies to them, they find it acceptable. So many voted for him out of hate (for Clinton or Obama) but continue support. He thrives on that "love" hence all his rallies.
I can only express my valid and real fear of where this is heading...we do not shout out when he is racist. We don't shout out when he lies to us.
I am just scared. I believe in my heart that our institutions are under attack by the extremes. We, on this forum, will attack the NFL because he said to do it. He never mention the NFL charities, nor his long battle against the NFL because of his personal feud dating back to their burying him when he tried to move in their market.
I am saddened how he is twisting the very definition of patriotism and how he is giving life to the hate groups.
I suppose it is just difficult for me not to react to such a terrible threat to our country.
By the way, it is not good for your well being. To be subjected to actual sermons based on NOTHING is tough. So many posters represent all his bad traits as well. I have seen so much open racism, but more scary is the hidden, subtle racism by posters I "know" from years back. Such hypocrites they are.
I do know since you asked personally, that continually supporting him on here or anywhere will simply "lock you in". When you tell me the media is lying about him, you are simply diluting yourself, and you will continue to accept more lies
Bog99
10-15-2017, 02:52 PM
First, that did not take long.
I actually agree with this man on most. Perhaps all the quotes I have read, and from my small taste, might be correct, had to do with religion, or race.
I read a number of articles on him, both pro and con.
Let me give you his statement, that on the surface I agree with totally.....
"I will never vote for Donald Trump because I stand with certain principles. I stand with small government and free markets and religious freedom and personal responsibility. Donald Trump stands against all of these things. He stands for Planned Parenthood and trade restrictions and targeting of political enemies and an anti-morality foreign policy and government domination of religion and nastiness toward women and tacit appeals to racism and unbounded personal power. I stand with the Constitution of theUnited States, and its embedded protection of my God-given rights through governmental checks and balances. Donald Trump does not. I stand with conservatism. Donald Trump stands against it.
I stand with #NeverTrump."
Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/ben-shapiros-messy-breakup-with-breitbart.html)
This I agree with. Those who think they furthered conservatism or morals by supporting this person are so very very wrong.
This following comment was just a note in anothr article, but so very correct. It is also something I have tried to say many times, but on here the Trump folks look at everything as you are either with or against....they believe they are supporting conservatism, but that is bunk. They are supporting the extreme..very extreme alt right...
"Constitutional conservatives can’t stand the alt-right. Conservatives — real conservatives — believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passé; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It’s a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism."
The Breitbart alt-right just took over the GOP - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/18/the-breitbart-alt-right-just-took-over-the-gop/?utm_term=.b7bf5f0b3428)
And lastly, a link to a piece criticizing him which you may want to read.
The Hollow Bravery of Ben Shapiro - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/opinion/ben-shapiro.html)
Thanks for being stubborn because I will pay more attention to him, although because of my reading, I re read the initial link on the media and thought it was contrived, not a realistic depiction of NEWS inaccuracy, and in some cases, in my opinion a false result was shown.
But, he and I share many viewpoints and those on here who think Trump is a conservative hero might oay attention.
He is a alt right extremist. I believe that can be fatal to this country. You, in my opinion, have false hopes for this President, and become part of the problem by supporting him. The bigotry, and apparent need to further our divides, along with what can only be called a total lack of morals and character is beyond troubling. He lied his way in, and is lying still.
You make some good points and I will take a look at those links when I get a chance......getting ready to go out here shortly myself. Just one quick question I have for you in the meantime. What is it you think that those of us who appear to continue to support Trump, should do at this point? I ask this, not facetiously or sarcastically, but honestly. My viewpoint is that he is our President, and like him or not, I would want this country to succeed not fail. Let me further explain that since my background comes from one that is more faith based than some, I always believe that God is in the details and I know He can use people for good whether they are His people or not. In saying that, maybe you will understand why my viewpoint is one of more optimism than another person's. I can't control whether he is the President or not at this point and I don't think spending my time tearing him down is going to help or change anything, nor is it good for my well-being. Your thoughts?
Hey, it's Sunday.......I had to throw my "sermon" in there.
Aren't these rather trivial details compared to the elephant-in-the-room big-picture issues, like:
The Magic Sentences of Liberty
Liberty is a poetic term for property rights.
Therefore there are only two kind of laws:
Type 1) those that protect property rights
Type 2) and those that attack property rights <--- where Femo-Fascism lives
"Have the government do unto others and their property as you'd have the government do unto you, and your property."
We can eliminate 90% of the crap we call politics with first principles of liberty.
dirtbanker
10-15-2017, 07:48 PM
Plus, you folks say the media lies in the news,....that you cannot ever prove...they do not.
Read the news and see how that was used AGAINST US during the election in what was NOT a hoax, but an invasion by a foreign country.
So the news during the election was a lie but the news today is not a lie??
dirtbanker
10-15-2017, 07:55 PM
Mr Shapiro is a known white supremicist. He has also authored many satire stories.
Also this morning a poster used a link to a known white supremicist and extreme right wing blogger.
I actually agree with this man on most. Perhaps all the quotes I have read, and from my small taste, might be correct, had to do with religion, or race.
Well that is conviction...
dirtbanker
10-15-2017, 08:04 PM
He spends too much time discussing race, ethnicity, etc for me. He and others from Briebart make this a career, discussing others religions and color
Fox has become a lot of commentary with a lot of gals with short skirts talking as if they know something.
Race, ethnicity, etc...I guess if they made sexist comments, that would be Ok with you.
dirtbanker
10-15-2017, 08:18 PM
I couldn't vote for a candidate in the general election who had no chance of winning and thereby possibly throw the election to Hillary. I'm not saying that in judgment, just that personally I couldn't have done it.
Could you vote for someone that was not even a candidate? If not, why?
dirtbanker
10-15-2017, 08:22 PM
While watching the NFL today, I will do some reading on my iPad.
Maybe while you are kneeling during the National Anthem...
I responded to Gracie right away because I hate to be talked down to. When you start out by saying...what a lot of people don't understand, flags go up. If you don't understand, why would you even be on a political forum ?
Go see a shrink; The reason you responded to Grace is you have a hard on for her, just like you have one for Rubi...If you don't understand yourself, you are going to struggle understanding others.
Bog99
10-15-2017, 08:30 PM
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https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/hey-mirror-gazing-cult-conceit-femo-fascists-i-have-news-you-247977/
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mellincf
10-15-2017, 08:59 PM
Fox Watch - A long list of examples of Fox News lying, misleading, or generally making the world a worse place (http://officeofstrategicinfluence.com/issues.php?issue=fox)
Bog99
10-16-2017, 01:18 AM
Fox Watch - A long list of examples of Fox News lying, misleading, or generally making the world a worse place (http://officeofstrategicinfluence.com/issues.php?issue=fox)
What a stupidly Femo-Fascist statement...
"... generally making the world a worse place..." ----> "The World" is None Of Your G--D--- business!
You mind YOUR OWN business -- you and your obnoxious coffee-clotch busy-body Femo-Fascists.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/does-anyone-here-understand-type-2-legislation-247854/
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/femo-fascism-cancer-western-civilization-247815/
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/how-rid-senate-femo-fascist-idiots-247586/
banjobob
10-16-2017, 04:57 AM
The phoney stories made up or imagined are reported in the news regularily , when confromted or exposed the retractions are hard to find . These phoney stories are like accusing n innocent a man of inappropiate behavior , once out there that is the truth , the same is true for all the biased news.OAN is the only news to watch and is totally unbiased. I get so damn tired of these F"ing socialist liberals trashing Trump while for 8 years we watched "O" and his lies and corruption destroy an divide this country if you don't like Trump fine I get so sick of your dumbass immature comments just vote for the next crook the Dems put up.
Susan Schonfeld
10-16-2017, 05:24 AM
It is not fake news and you people who still support the lying, sick Trump you don’t care if you lose our democracy and for sure don’t care about your grandchildren’s future with clean air and water. Just keep watching the real fake news propaganda station Fox. Just like Hitler did is what Trump wants. A father that was a white supremist and a person who is proud of his German heritage and wouldn’t think twice about getting rid of anyone not white and Christian. Shame on all of you supporting a person who hates anyone else. =
Topspinmo
10-16-2017, 05:53 AM
CNN (IMO Comedy News Network). Keep it up, it didn't help Hillary and it won't the next Demogod.
Rockyrd
10-16-2017, 06:09 AM
The phoney stories made up or imagined are reported in the news regularily , when confromted or exposed the retractions are hard to find . These phoney stories are like accusing n innocent a man of inappropiate behavior , once out there that is the truth , the same is true for all the biased news.OAN is the only news to watch and is totally unbiased. I get so damn tired of these F"ing socialist liberals trashing Trump while for 8 years we watched "O" and his lies and corruption destroy an divide this country if you don't like Trump fine I get so sick of your dumbass immature comments just vote for the next crook the Dems put up.
Please supply a link to ONE fake news item from the MSM
PLEASE
graciegirl
10-16-2017, 06:12 AM
Mellincf
Your source; FoxWatch is not credible. That is one of the most important rules in journalism. Check your sources.
My challenge for you is to watch Fox News for ten minutes three different times today.
Grace Gantner
Most of our news is delivered now, through the internet and that is the rub. AP wire, and other major sources often give opinion. That is new in this day and age. I don't like it and don't often agree with these young, fresh out of school liberal kids.
Rockyrd
10-16-2017, 06:27 AM
Mellincf
Your source; FoxWatch is not credible. That is one of the most important rules in journalism. Check your sources.
My challenge for you is to watch Fox News for ten minutes three different times today.
Grace Gantner
Most of our news is delivered now, through the internet and that is the rub. AP wire, and other major sources often give opinion. That is new in this day and age. I don't like it and don't often agree with these young, fresh out of school liberal kids.
Wow...but you love those pretty girls in short skirts giving opinions.
It is quite easy to tell the difference between opinion and news items.
I seldom read opinion pieces until after insuring I understand what the news item is all about.
Fox is infamous...Fox and Friends has made headlines because Trump has quoted them, and was wrong.
Bog99
10-16-2017, 06:33 AM
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The truth of this video was 20,000 infuriated Americans screaming "CNN Sucks" -- because CNN is a propaganda organ of Type-2-Legislating Femo-Fascism, which is rightly resented by Real Americans.
Mainstream Media Publicly Shamed by 20,000 Americans - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsuekNDK_FI&list=PL6JjafE5gsb-2O9eOmHZbKAd5Nql5dtRw&index=57)
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They should call it the (unt News Network.
dirtbanker
10-16-2017, 06:38 AM
Please supply a link to ONE fake news item from the MSM
PLEASE
Already showed you 40 lies...You did not like the source, claimed it was a white supremacist ...and then you flip flopped and said you agreed with everything he said, except his "false result" toward NEWS inaccuracy...
Try this one:
Mainstream Media Lies - Bing video (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Mainstream+Media+Lies&&view=detail&mid=9A1395EDFCE55B96D05B9A1395EDFCE55B96D05B&FORM=VRDGAR)
graciegirl
10-16-2017, 06:43 AM
Wow...but you love those pretty girls in short skirts giving opinions.
It is quite easy to tell the difference between opinion and news items.
I seldom read opinion pieces until after insuring I understand what the news item is all about.
Fox is infamous...Fox and Friends has made headlines because Trump has quoted them, and was wrong.
I am not attracted to women, but apparently they caught your eye. I think they could tone that down a bit. But Rachel Maddow makes me want to bite. All networks have their good points and bad points. I don't like some anchors on Fox either.
Bucco. You are always angry about something. You are so fragile, that no one can debate you and you come slinging trash a lot yourself. Enough. Stick to the issue. Quit being so sensitive.
dirtbanker
10-16-2017, 06:44 AM
Wow...but you love those pretty girls in short skirts giving opinions.
It is quite easy to tell the difference between opinion and news items.
I seldom read opinion pieces until after insuring I understand what the news item is all about.
Fox is infamous...Fox and Friends has made headlines because Trump has quoted them, and was wrong.
Are you suggesting Fox News would be more creditable if it had ugly girls in long skirts??
Maybe they need to be fat girls that wear outfits that the end result resembles oatmeal in a balloon??
dirtbanker
10-16-2017, 06:47 AM
Wow...but you love those pretty girls in short skirts giving opinions.
It is quite easy to tell the difference between opinion and news items.
I seldom read opinion pieces until after insuring I understand what the news item is all about.
Fox is infamous...Fox and Friends has made headlines because Trump has quoted them, and was wrong.
Oh, Please give us an example of how easy it is for you to tell news items verses opinion.
Maybe you could use Trump is a racist as the subject?
dirtbanker
10-16-2017, 06:51 AM
Are you suggesting Fox News would be more creditable if it had ugly girls in long skirts??
Maybe they need to be fat girls that wear outfits that the end result resembles oatmeal in a balloon??
Who doesn't adore a big chick in leggings these days!
Rockyrd
10-16-2017, 06:57 AM
Already showed you 40 lies...You did not like the source, claimed it was a white supremacist ...and then you flip flopped and said you agreed with everything he said, except his "false result" toward NEWS inaccuracy...
Try this one:
Mainstream Media Lies - Bing video (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Mainstream+Media+Lies&&view=detail&mid=9A1395EDFCE55B96D05B9A1395EDFCE55B96D05B&FORM=VRDGAR)
You have crossed the line. Misquoting me...read what I said along with the negative Times article. Read what I said about his "critique" of the media.
I am sorry I was so honest and up front with you. I did further looking at your suggestion. I admitted my judgement of HIM was hasty, but not the writings on the media.
You surely now have warning lights now, as you mix and match what flits your story. I am a bit surprised actually.
I didn't mention in my other post, but what the hell now...your link is 8 months old
Next I suggest YOU read his piece. An example of a media "lie" he gives. After Kellyanne Conway lied about the Bowling Green Massacre, which never happened, he counts as a lie the media did not spend enough time talking about Bowling Green , in his words...."The media has been mocking Conway for her remark about a Bowling Green “massacre.” They are right that there was no massacre. But there could have been, if not for the FBI investigation, due to a flawed refugee vetting process."
That he considers a media lie.
If you read my comments you will find my criticism of this piece, but you are no different than Rubicon, Baldwin, DIRTBANKER, etc. you look to manipulate to give cover to a man you cannot defend.
ABBY I APOLOGIZE. A TROLL POSTED THE THREAD I DISPUTE AND NOT YOU. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU WERE THE SOURCE OF THAT AND THE SOURCE OF THIS POST TO WHICH I REPLIED.
MY DISAPPONTMENT WAS BASED IN THINKING YOU WROTE THIS NOTE
I APOLOGIZE...MY RESPONSES, STILL STANDS BUT I OWE YOU AN APOLOGY.
Rockyrd
10-16-2017, 07:25 AM
I am not attracted to women, but apparently they caught your eye. I think they could tone that down a bit. But Rachel Maddow makes me want to bite. All networks have their good points and bad points. I don't like some anchors on Fox either.
Bucco. You are always angry about something. You are so fragile, that no one can debate you and you come slinging trash a lot yourself. Enough. Stick to the issue. Quit being so sensitive.
Fragile I am not Gracie.
Angry..yes.
You cannot debate without facts. You cannot debate based on false premises and lies. I stick to the issue, but get angry with accusations made against anyone with no basis. Tha is and always has been total crap.
Telling me to stick to the issue does anger me forbsure.
Don Baldwin
10-16-2017, 07:25 AM
The phoney stories made up or imagined are reported in the news regularily , when confromted or exposed the retractions are hard to find . These phoney stories are like accusing n innocent a man of inappropiate behavior , once out there that is the truth , the same is true for all the biased news.OAN is the only news to watch and is totally unbiased. I get so damn tired of these F"ing socialist liberals trashing Trump while for 8 years we watched "O" and his lies and corruption destroy an divide this country if you don't like Trump fine I get so sick of your dumbass immature comments just vote for the next crook the Dems put up.
He made America a minority majority...and the ratio is getting worse each day...whites are falling in numbers.
It is not fake news and you people who still support the lying, sick Trump you don’t care if you lose our democracy and for sure don’t care about your grandchildren’s future with clean air and water. Just keep watching the real fake news propaganda station Fox. Just like Hitler did is what Trump wants. A father that was a white supremist and a person who is proud of his German heritage and wouldn’t think twice about getting rid of anyone not white and Christian. Shame on all of you supporting a person who hates anyone else. =
Even worse...they'll be living in a minority infested Mexico II. MINORITIES will destroy this country...like they destroy everything else.
It's ALL "fake news" and propaganda.
Wow...but you love those pretty girls in short skirts giving opinions.
It is quite easy to tell the difference between opinion and news items.
I seldom read opinion pieces until after insuring I understand what the news item is all about.
Fox is infamous...Fox and Friends has made headlines because Trump has quoted them, and was wrong.
How do you ensure you know what the news item is all about when you NEVER get the real information?
Are you suggesting Fox News would be more creditable if it had ugly girls in long skirts??
Maybe they need to be fat girls that wear outfits that the end result resembles oatmeal in a balloon??
It'll never be credible...it's a propaganda arm...just pushing the OTHER side...to keep us divided.
You have crossed the line. Misquoting me...read what I said along with the negative Times article. Read what I said about his "critique" of the media.
I am sorry I was so honest and up front with you. I did further looking at your suggestion. I admitted my judgement of HIM was hasty, but not the writings on the media.
You surely now have warning lights now, as you mix and match what flits your story. I am a bit surprised actually.
I didn't mention in my other post, but what the hell now...your link is 8 months old
Next I suggest YOU read his piece. An example of a media "lie" he gives. After Kellyanne Conway lied about the Bowling Green Massacre, which never happened, he counts as a lie the media did not spend enough time talking about Bowling Green , in his words...."The media has been mocking Conway for her remark about a Bowling Green “massacre.” They are right that there was no massacre. But there could have been, if not for the FBI investigation, due to a flawed refugee vetting process."
That he considers a media lie.
If you read my comments you will find my criticism of this piece, but you are no different than Rubicon, Baldwin, DIRTBANKER, etc. you look to manipulate to give cover to a man you cannot defend.
Whoa...I'm showing you the TRUTH...I'm not manipulating anyone. I BEG you to go see for yourself. To go to MLK Blvd and SEE what they are like. To go to a minority majority school and see what they are like. This IS America's future! A 3rd world "Mexico II". THEY are REPLACING us.
I'm not defending Trump unless it's some wild ass accusation by an idiot.
You liberals worry about crap that'll NEVER pass...that'll NEVER happen...because there won't BE the America we have now when whites are reduced to 20% of the population.
sparky4840
10-16-2017, 07:27 AM
Fake news? Fake president.
dirtbanker
10-16-2017, 07:29 AM
You have crossed the line. Misquoting me...read what I said along with the negative Times article. Read what I said about his "critique" of the media.
I am sorry I was so honest and up front with you. I did further looking at your suggestion. I admitted my judgement of HIM was hasty, but not the writings on the media.
You surely now have warning lights now, as you mix and match what flits your story. I am a bit surprised actually.
I didn't mention in my other post, but what the hell now...your link is 8 months old
Next I suggest YOU read his piece. An example of a media "lie" he gives. After Kellyanne Conway lied about the Bowling Green Massacre, which never happened, he counts as a lie the media did not spend enough time talking about Bowling Green , in his words...."The media has been mocking Conway for her remark about a Bowling Green “massacre.” They are right that there was no massacre. But there could have been, if not for the FBI investigation, due to a flawed refugee vetting process."
That he considers a media lie.
If you read my comments you will find my criticism of this piece, but you are no different than Rubicon, Baldwin, DIRTBANKER, etc. you look to manipulate to give cover to a man you cannot defend.
ABBY I APOLOGIZE. A TROLL POSTED THE THREAD I DISPUTE AND NOT YOU. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU WERE THE SOURCE OF THAT AND THE SOURCE OF THIS POST TO WHICH I REPLIED.
MY DISAPPONTMENT WAS BASED IN THINKING YOU WROTE THIS NOTE
I APOLOGIZE...MY RESPONSES, STILL STANDS BUT I OWE YOU AN APOLOGY.
In case anyone is interested in what Rockface is whining about:
Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Was Caught Telling FORTY Lies | Daily Wire (http://www.dailywire.com/news/13294/fake-news-rap-sheet-last-week-msm-was-caught-john-nolte)
Lies of omission are still lies, and this is a biggie…
Over the weekend, KellyAnne Conway, a top Trump advisor, falsely claimed that there had been what she called a "Bowling Green massacre," or a jihadist terror attack in the state of Kentucky. She also claimed that the media did not cover the massacre-that-never-happened.
It was a stupid mistake but Conway has since cleared the air and apologized more than once.
In their zeal to destroy Conway, what the media is really doing is covering up their own cover-up.
What happened in Bowling Green in 2011 is and was a legitimate story, a story the MSM doesn't want the public to know about because it is an inconvenient one about Al-Qaeda terrorists successfully posing as refugees:
IJR:
Senior government officials in the Obama administration were paying attention to the case and, shocked by the severe lapse in security, temporarily shut down the Iraqi refugee program for six months while they investigated the vetting process. (Sound familiar?)
The media has been mocking Conway for her remark about a Bowling Green “massacre.” They are right that there was no massacre. But there could have been, if not for the FBI investigation, due to a flawed refugee vetting process.
ColdNoMore
10-16-2017, 07:29 AM
Fragile I am not Gracie.
Angry..yes.
You cannot debate without facts. You cannot debate based on false premises and lies. I stick to the issue, but get angry with accusations made against anyone with no basis. Tha is and always has been total crap.
Telling me to stick to the issue does anger me for sure.
Don't let her emotional, nasty, passive-aggressive personality get to you too much...she just can't help herself. :shrug:
Taltarzac725
10-16-2017, 07:31 AM
Exactly what is so amazing, that hardcore Trump cultists would boo those who actually write/speak the truth...that exposes their demi-God for the scumbag that he is? :ohdear:
Right on target!!! Of interest-- Trump's NFL Fight Dates Back to His Failed USFL Experiment in the '80s (http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-nfl-fight-dates-back-failed-usfl-experiment-80s-jeff-pearlman-670843)
Don Baldwin
10-16-2017, 07:31 AM
Fragile I am not Gracie.
Angry..yes.
You cannot debate without facts. You cannot debate based on false premises and lies. I stick to the issue, but get angry with accusations made against anyone with no basis. Tha is and always has been total crap.
Telling me to stick to the issue does anger me forbsure.
And THAT is precisely WHY I'm ALWAYS...in EVERY post I make...BEGGING you to see the TRUTH. Until you know the truth...what the 99% are really like...you CAN'T debate what we need to do with them. We CAN'T let it keep going as it is...they would eventually become 100% of the population. Minorities...POOR minorities...are now 51% of the population...they WILL BE 80% in 30 years as whites die faster than we reproduce. UNTIL you GO DOWN to MLK Blvd and SEE what the 99% are REALLY LIKE...you can't debate the problem we face. We ARE being bred out by 3rd worlders who ARE dragging the country down.
Taltarzac725
10-16-2017, 07:59 AM
And THAT is precisely WHY I'm ALWAYS...in EVERY post I make...BEGGING you to see the TRUTH. Until you know the truth...what the 99% are really like...you CAN'T debate what we need to do with them. We CAN'T let it keep going as it is...they would eventually become 100% of the population. Minorities...POOR minorities...are now 51% of the population...they WILL BE 80% in 30 years as whites die faster than we reproduce. UNTIL you GO DOWN to MLK Blvd and SEE what the 99% are REALLY LIKE...you can't debate the problem we face. We ARE being bred out by 3rd worlders who ARE dragging the country down.
How many times have you been to MLK Blvd? Makes me wonder. Driver License & Motor Vehicle Office of Tampa, Florida | DMV.org (https://local.dmv.org/florida/branch/driver-license-office-tampa)
nututv
10-16-2017, 08:15 AM
Seriously folks. Is this all the more you have to to?
You sound like a bunch of damn kids. And bad ones at that.
Ask yourself before you type. Would I have this conversation in public in front of strangers?
Don Baldwin
10-16-2017, 08:23 AM
How many times have you been to MLK Blvd? Makes me wonder. Driver License & Motor Vehicle Office of Tampa, Florida | DMV.org (https://local.dmv.org/florida/branch/driver-license-office-tampa)
WHY is it there? So the welfare receiving blacks can get their ID cards so they don't riot about voting rights.
Look at the safest neighborhoods in Tampa:
Tampa Crime Rates and Statistics - NeighborhoodScout (https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/tampa/crime)
"College Hill is located in the innermost part of Tampa, between Martin Luther King and East Lake, Nebraska Boulevard and 26th Street. It is definitely one of the areas to avoid in Tampa since crime rates here are twice as high as the national average. The neighborhood is well-known for gang activity, drive-by shootings, car-jacking, burglary, muggings and assault with deadly weapons according to the Tampa Police Department crime stats. For those who do not live in this area or minister to the people living there, it is advisable to simply avoid it."
Safe and Dangerous Places in Tampa - AOL News (https://www.aol.com/2010/09/14/safe-and-dangerous-places-in-tampa/)
Taltarzac725
10-16-2017, 08:25 AM
Seriously folks. Is this all the more you have to to?
You sound like a bunch of damn kids. And bad ones at that.
Ask yourself before you type. Would I have this conversation in public in front of strangers?
Most of them are anonymous for the most part and unaccountable for anything they write so it has became something of a men and women's toilet stall wall.
Trolls abound on this Political Forum. And some put CRIMINALLY HARASSING posts quite often.
And you are quite right that much of it looks like the writings of juvenile delinquents of about 13 year old maturity.
You can see who posts what though for the past 10 posts of a thread by pressing "Quote Post" and scrolling down.
Rockyrd
10-16-2017, 09:03 AM
In case anyone is interested in what Rockface is whining about:
Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Was Caught Telling FORTY Lies | Daily Wire (http://www.dailywire.com/news/13294/fake-news-rap-sheet-last-week-msm-was-caught-john-nolte)
Lies of omission are still lies, and this is a biggie…
Over the weekend, KellyAnne Conway, a top Trump advisor, falsely claimed that there had been what she called a "Bowling Green massacre," or a jihadist terror attack in the state of Kentucky. She also claimed that the media did not cover the massacre-that-never-happened.
It was a stupid mistake but Conway has since cleared the air and apologized more than once.
In their zeal to destroy Conway, what the media is really doing is covering up their own cover-up.
What happened in Bowling Green in 2011 is and was a legitimate story, a story the MSM doesn't want the public to know about because it is an inconvenient one about Al-Qaeda terrorists successfully posing as refugees:
IJR:
Senior government officials in the Obama administration were paying attention to the case and, shocked by the severe lapse in security, temporarily shut down the Iraqi refugee program for six months while they investigated the vetting process. (Sound familiar?)
The media has been mocking Conway for her remark about a Bowling Green “massacre.” They are right that there was no massacre. But there could have been, if not for the FBI investigation, due to a flawed refugee vetting process.
Thank you....this not even close to the media falsifying the news. All his examples are similar.
Please supply ant MSM and a lie told in the news.
You just do not understand the difference between commentary and news.
If you are reading commentary for news, that explains your stupid posts because that commentary is mostly the view of a website.
The media does not lie in supplying the news and playing to this false narrative is just plain stupid and scary.
Rockyrd
10-16-2017, 09:22 AM
Don't let her emotional, nasty, passive-aggressive personality get to you too much...she just can't help herself. :shrug:
What does get. me angry is her judgements of people. Do you know, way back, she actually praised me for being honest and demanding truth ?
Now, she will take every opportunity to defend plagarism, lying and deceit. She lectures in morals, but ignores the deceit, trolling, lying I can only suppose because they support Trump.
She will call you or me on anything, but will never ever criticize her supposed friends, bound it appears by hate.
She supports the racist terribly obscene comments on here. HOW does she support it ? She will come right at you if you criticize Trump, but will ignore, or even praise the progression of lies.
It is tiresome to watch her juspdgements made on me, you and others. My judgements, and yep I make then
M are reserved for Trump, and trolls. Both easily identified.
I ask her good buddy, and probably her to engage in discussion of substance. And instead of engaging, they ignore it..then accuse others.
It IS maddening. For sure.
I would love to hear her take to task lying, but she will not.
It appears that obscene language, threats, misquoting and altering posts and usernames, plagerize to, using Russian websites to accredit, making general blanket accusations on millions of Americans, etc. is just fine. Me being angry about lying, not so much
gogond
10-16-2017, 11:01 AM
And I met with the president of the Virgin Islands! What a Moron!
MDLNB
10-17-2017, 04:48 AM
And I met with the president of the Virgin Islands! What a Moron!
Don't be so harsh on yourself.............:a20:
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Topspinmo
01-02-2018, 10:56 PM
Didn't CNN get caught giving debate questions to the queen of lair's? Didn't they're political analysts which was the head of the DNC amit too the cheating and lying. So does tha NOT bring they're integrity for bing fair and balanced new network? CNN comedy news network, which are politician neptunium hacks all related to democrats, liberals, and agenda's. New network NOT hardly. Trusted, proven Lair's and cheaters. Can't believe damn report they do cause the put they're political hack agenda on it. There FCC license should be pulled, but the FCC in on th agenda.
Bog99
01-02-2018, 11:00 PM
Didn't CNN get caught giving debate questions to the queen of lair's? Didn't they're political analysts which was the head of the DNC amit too the cheating and lying. So does tha NOT bring they're integrity for bing fair and balanced new network? CNN comedy news network, which are politician neptunium hacks all related to democrats, liberals, and agenda's. New network NOT hardly. Trusted, proven Lair's and cheaters. Can't believe damn report they do cause the put they're political hack agenda on it. There FCC license should be pulled, but the FCC in on th agenda.
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