Tri-County Tea Party Meeting

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Meeting is Wednesday, October 14th at 7:30 p.m. at the Lady Lake Community Building at 237 W. Guava St., Lady Lake FL 32159-3735 (352) 750-2064. This is behind the Lady Lake Library.

There will be a movie on The U.S. Constitution.

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When is the next Tri-County Tea Party meeting? We did not arrive in The Villages until Oct. 19, 2009, so we missed the Oct. meeting.
Mrs. tghoul

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The next meeting is Wed. Dec. 2nd at 7:30pm at Lady Lake Community Building 237 W. Guava St, Lady Lake. For further information go to: www.tri-countyteaparty.org Listen and order the song written by member, Bonnie W. Daniels, for the Tea Party - Sounds of Freedom at www.teapartysoundsoffreedom.com there is a link to it also on our website. We are also on Facebook and Twitter.

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There is going to be a special speaker: Joe Angoine, columnist for The Villages Daily Sun paper. Don't miss it. Go on the website: www.tri-countyteaparty.org to get all the information on Upcoming Events, Meetings, etc.:a040:

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I'm not saying a word.
Thought you might want to see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP2p91dvm6M

Congressional candidate Lieutenant Colonel West speaking at the American Freedom tour in Fort Lauderdale Florida at the Revolution Nightclub.
For more information about the West for Congress campaign or to become involved please follow this link http://allenwestforcongress.com/.

Copyright 2009 Channel1Images.

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I'm not saying a word.
Thought you might want to see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP2p91dvm6M

Congressional candidate Lieutenant Colonel West speaking at the American Freedom tour in Fort Lauderdale Florida at the Revolution Nightclub.
For more information about the West for Congress campaign or to become involved please follow this link http://allenwestforcongress.com/.

Copyright 2009 Channel1Images.

Very impressive guy ! Favorite quotes...

"The constitution says promote the general welfare...NOT provide welfare"

AND

"We cannot live in a country where the government sits around and tries to engineer and design the outcome.....'everyone has a right to own a home' how did that end up"

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The constitution says promote the general welfare...NOT provide welfare


HEY! That's MY line!!!

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Meetings won't began again until Jan. 6, 2010 due to the holiday season. Please go on our website: http://www.tri-countyteaparty.org for information about the group, committees, upcoming events, etc. You can also Blog on: http://tricountyteapartyfl.weebly.com

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We were fortunate enough to have Joe Angione, Columnist from The Villages Daily Sun newspaper speak to our group (Tri-County Tea Party -FL). He explained why to us why nothing is ever written about our group or for our group (they have a Liberal basis). The because he is Conservative, he can only have a column in it once every 3 weeks.



Because of his Conservative belief, and others like him - they are starting a new group: Central Florida Conservative Alliance. Joe hopes that it will be up and running by March 1, 2010. Right now, they're looking for comments from people such as Tea Party members about the need for such an organization, and expressions of interest in being part of CFCA's board of governors.



Joe's email address is: JoeAngione@aol.com



Central Florida Conservative Alliance

Mission Statement:

The overall mission of the Alliance is to clearly define political conservatism and explain its virtues as they apply to a grassroots audience. In doing so it will recruit members with varied backgrounds and experience necessary to research and develop conservative-oriented position papers on issues of vital importance to Floridians and Americans everywhere. These issues will include government, politics, the economy, health care, immigration, foreign policy and national security.

The Alliance will be organized and function along the lines of a “think-tank” similar to the Hoover Institution and the Heritage Foundation. However, it will not be an organization controlled and managed by the intellectual elite. PhDs and other advanced degrees are not essential for membership. The Alliance believes that elitist intellectuals have done little to improve the nation, and so CFCA will build its membership around intelligent, everyday Americans who have the ability to conceptualize and clearly express themselves on a variety of issues.

Membership will be by invitation only to ensure that the Alliance is a well focused organization fully committed to the hard work of developing new ideas and fresh viewpoints on America and its future.



CFCA Objectives

Objectives:

1. Clearly define conservatism for a grassroots audience.

2. Show that CFCA is an organization to educate a grassroots audience about the virtues of conservatism.

3. Convince members, the media and the general public that a grassroots organization of ordinary, intelligent Americans with broad experience in all the important aspects of life can be just as effective as any “think tank” in investigating modern day trends, events, problems and opportunities and offering viable suggestions and solutions. (A statement of legitimacy.)

4. Explain that The Villages—as a unique microcosm of the best in American life—is an ideal birthplace for a conservative educational organization.

5. Promote conservative values and principles.

6. Explain why conservatism is a better approach to government than liberalism or socialism.

7. Present conservative positions on major issues such as government, politics, society, health care, the environment, the economy and international relations. Select six major topics each year for analysis and development of formal position papers.

8. Promote these position papers to the media.

9. Urge members to contact their legislators regarding conservative points of view.

10. Show members how to get involved politically to ensure that office holders know and do the will of their constituents.

11. Invite experts in various fields as well as local office holders and

political candidates to speak at CFCA meetings.

12. From time to time endorse conservative-minded candidates for political office.

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From the Leader of the Tri-County Tea Party-FL about what was revealed on Glenn Beck 12/16/09.

Obama threatens Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson. The Threat is to Close Offutt Air Force Base, Senate aide reports, December 15, 2009, Senate Health Care vote, Rahm Emanuel and White House extort Nelson’s vote. Treason is not acceptable, and we will not stand for it. At present, things are being worked on for a major retaliation to these threats from Obama by the American People. Not having them in place quite yet. However, I do strongly suggest you all mail, phone, e-mail or fax Senator Ben Nelson to NOT fall for this tactic ASAP. Now is the time to put pressure on Ben Nelson.
I also urge you all to write letters to the editor regarding this ASAP. Even though we have no meetings, we still must continue to push. They think that because it's the Christmas Season, we're lying low. However, we must still be vigilant and aware what Congress is doing or trying to do. If you know of any retired military person,I suggest you forward this on to them.
Thank you,
Pam

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I mean no insult by this so please take this in the spirit in which it's intended.

BJ, your message, as posted, is why "Tea Party" members get derided as "**********" and not taken seriously.

For you, or whomever was the source of the words "Treason is not acceptable", to use that phrase instantly discredits you.

To equate the typical policitcal horse-trading that has gone on since the invention of politics with the one crime actually mentioned in the Constitution and still (to my knowledge) punishable by death shows a lack of perspective.

Being inflammatory but still correct in calling it "extortion" (as in 'you vote my way and I won't close the base in your district') still gets your point. But "treason"?

You do yourself no favors and, in the end, the result is to harm the message you're evidently trying to get out.

And "a major retaliation to these threats from Obama by the American People" almost sound like a colonel in Kandahar dealing with the Taliban.

If you treat "the opponent" (assuming it's Obama and the 'health care reform' legislation oozing it's way through Congress) like someone who won a clear majority of the vote of The American People, you might get taken more seriously.

Just as Republicans said to those who backed Kerry or Gore - the election is over so deal with it. If you sound like a fringe group you're going to get treated as one - even by those who (like me) are pre-disposed to be sympathetic to the overall message.

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From the Leader of the Tri-County Tea Party-FL about what was revealed on Glenn Beck 12/16/09.

Obama threatens Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson. The Threat is to Close Offutt Air Force Base, Senate aide reports, December 15, 2009, Senate Health Care vote, Rahm Emanuel and White House extort Nelson’s vote. Treason is not acceptable, and we will not stand for it. At present, things are being worked on for a major retaliation to these threats from Obama by the American People. Not having them in place quite yet. However, I do strongly suggest you all mail, phone, e-mail or fax Senator Ben Nelson to NOT fall for this tactic ASAP. Now is the time to put pressure on Ben Nelson.
I also urge you all to write letters to the editor regarding this ASAP. Even though we have no meetings, we still must continue to push. They think that because it's the Christmas Season, we're lying low. However, we must still be vigilant and aware what Congress is doing or trying to do. If you know of any retired military person,I suggest you forward this on to them.
Thank you,
Pam


As with a lot of Glenn Beck's unresearched stories, the base closing was an untrue rumor that both Nelson's office and the White House have denied.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200912170008

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/17/nelson-goldfarb-yellow-journalism/

http://www.omaha.com/article/20091217/AP09/912169975

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One of the main reasons there is a Tea Party movement is to get people to start talking about the government/politics - not hide their head in the sand any longer. Since they are Non-partisan based, they are cautious about all elected officials, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, the new (which we do not support) Tea Party. We know there are lies, cover-ups, etc. on both sides of the aisle - we just want to get to the truth. As was talked about earlier in a blog there are stories that tell of another story, even those stories you need to take with a grain of salt, like everything else. What motives/party/kick-backs do they have/get by running that story. The general public will never know. To get to the bottom, as much as you can, read-listen-watch as much as you can on a subject/party/person. Don't accept one version of it as truth. I know of one woman in Ocala's Tea Party that has 2 computers and numerous TV's going at all time trying to get to the truth.
If you disagree with my posting then that means you are reading it, and involving your mind to think about it. That is the whole purpose of the Tea Party Movement - to educate, and make people aware.
Call me a Tea-******, whatever you want, it's still not going to change my thoughts. Only REAL FACTS will do that.

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The Tea Party may someday be the first third party to succeed in the USA.

The reason for that is the Tea Party is made up of ordinary Americans who are thinkers not coolade drinkers.

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They'll have to have more than the Libertarians. The last 'new' 3rd party that had a chance was Perot's Reform Party and that fizzled after Pat Buchannan took over.

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they'll have to have more than the libertarians. The last 'new' 3rd party that had a chance was perot's reform party and that fizzled after pat buchannan took over.

obama and socialism>

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Not to be rude, just realistic - the Libertarians already have the structure in place. It takes a LONG time to build that and the Tea Party is just getting started.

The only reason the Reform Party got started so fast was because of Perot's money and his fame got him on the news.

The Tea Party, for the most part, is really grass roots - and not all the publicity has been good. This is going to have to be a *sustained* effort with the 'local cells' coming together and agreeing on a set of principals that can become a platform.

Personally, I think this is why the GOP came back in 1994 - the Contract With America was 10 easy-to-understand principles that most Americans could get behind. If you, as a candidate, "signed the contract", you gave the electorate a promise that made it easy to hold your feet to the fire (and let's face it, that's what we want).

If the Tea Party had a "Contract for a New America", I think that would go a long way. In addition, the process of formulating that contract would allow for some good debate. I think having a party debate within itself MIGHT be divisive, but it's got to have a better shot at producing compromise and unity than the current Democrat/Republican "they're for it therefore we're against it" mentality.

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Not to be rude, just realistic - the Libertarians already have the structure in place. It takes a LONG time to build that and the Tea Party is just getting started.

The only reason the Reform Party got started so fast was because of Perot's money and his fame got him on the news.

The Tea Party, for the most part, is really grass roots - and not all the publicity has been good. This is going to have to be a *sustained* effort with the 'local cells' coming together and agreeing on a set of principals that can become a platform.

Personally, I think this is why the GOP came back in 1994 - the Contract With America was 10 easy-to-understand principles that most Americans could get behind. If you, as a candidate, "signed the contract", you gave the electorate a promise that made it easy to hold your feet to the fire (and let's face it, that's what we want).

If the Tea Party had a "Contract for a New America", I think that would go a long way. In addition, the process of formulating that contract would allow for some good debate. I think having a party debate within itself MIGHT be divisive, but it's got to have a better shot at producing compromise and unity than the current Democrat/Republican "they're for it therefore we're against it" mentality.


For pointing out that the TEA PARTY is made up of Grass Roots Americans.
Let us pray that they are allowed to make the right decision next November.

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I don't think looking at next November is realistic. There just aren't enough candidates with a 'different message'. Those that *do* have a different message are all over the map. Let's face it, many get re-elected on the platform of "I can't stop all the pork in D.C. so I'll make sure we at least get our cut".

A 3rd party has *no* clout right now when it comes to where the sausages, er, laws are made - in the committees. At best you have a couple of independents who are mostly aligning themselves "for caucus purposes" with the Democrats.

The Tea Party, and this is STRICTLY my opinion, needs a haymaker punch in order to do anything real anytime soon. Power doesn't exactly give itself up willingly. You need a set of priciples that a LOT of people can get behind - and capitalizing on the disenchantments of party members might be a good place to start. You also need a charismatic leader who will be taken seriously. Colin Powell comes to mind - someone like that.

I've long advocated that a *real* and *viable* 3rd party has to exist in order for the United States to progress. Unfortunately, the Libertarians are too radical for American tastes. To pick an easy example, Americans was an FDA that protects our food supply but is not beholden to drug companies. They do not, as far as I can tell, want to abolish the FDA the way the Libertarian Party does.

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I don't think looking at next November is realistic. There just aren't enough candidates with a 'different message'. Those that *do* have a different message are all over the map. Let's face it, many get re-elected on the platform of "I can't stop all the pork in D.C. so I'll make sure we at least get our cut".

A 3rd party has *no* clout right now when it comes to where the sausages, er, laws are made - in the committees. At best you have a couple of independents who are mostly aligning themselves "for caucus purposes" with the Democrats.

The Tea Party, and this is STRICTLY my opinion, needs a haymaker punch in order to do anything real anytime soon. Power doesn't exactly give itself up willingly. You need a set of priciples that a LOT of people can get behind - and capitalizing on the disenchantments of party members might be a good place to start. You also need a charismatic leader who will be taken seriously. Colin Powell comes to mind - someone like that.

I've long advocated that a *real* and *viable* 3rd party has to exist in order for the United States to progress. Unfortunately, the Libertarians are too radical for American tastes. To pick an easy example, Americans was an FDA that protects our food supply but is not beholden to drug companies. They do not, as far as I can tell, want to abolish the FDA the way the Libertarian Party does.

The Libertarians will never make it in my opinion.

A new party would fail if Colin Powell were the leader. He may have been a fair General but he is no politician. He cannot remember what he says from one speech to the next. Or he does not really care.

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Colin Powell is a RINO. I can't imagine that teapartiers would go for him. I lost all respect for him many years ago.

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Being a RINO might be a good thing. For example, if one could show that they were blackballed or shunned from the Rupublican Party because of their beliefs in smaller and more responsible government along with protecting individual liberties, that could be a HUGE selling point on a 3rd part ticket.

On the flip side, imagine the profile of a Democrat who can't stand the vote-buying, promise-everything-to-everyone, reckless growth of government when combined with the staples of Political Correctness.

How would THAT be for a ticket? A disaffected Republican coming together with a disaffected Democrat for the good of the nation...

Hey, I can dream, can't I?

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Being a RINO might be a good thing. For example, if one could show that they were blackballed or shunned from the Rupublican Party because of their beliefs in smaller and more responsible government along with protecting individual liberties, that could be a HUGE selling point on a 3rd part ticket.

On the flip side, imagine the profile of a Democrat who can't stand the vote-buying, promise-everything-to-everyone, reckless growth of government when combined with the staples of Political Correctness.

How would THAT be for a ticket? A disaffected Republican coming together with a disaffected Democrat for the good of the nation...

Hey, I can dream, can't I?


Powell is no republican that I would vote for. He is a Liberal.

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MEETINGS: Held at the Lady Lake Community Building at 237 W. Guava St., Lady Lake FL 32159-3735 (352) 750-2064 Starting at 7:30pm. Starting January 2010 meetings will be held every Wednesday. Bring a chair in case needed, and your own water. Please have your cell phones, pagers, etc. turned off or on vibrate during the meeting as a courtesy to the speakers and the others at the meeting. Thank you.