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Chatbrat
10-27-2017, 05:33 AM
A woman was almost carjacked on LaGrande near Spanish Springs-- a car bumped her car in the rear-when she stopped to look at the damage person jumped in her car and tried to drive away-good thing the crook didn't know how to operate a Mercedes shifter

If this happens do the following:

1) lock your car and take your keys with you after turning off the engine

2) better yet stay in your and call 911

3) if you have a firearm keep it at hands reach

I believe this is a trial run

Sandtrap328
10-27-2017, 07:19 AM
Definitely not saying his did not happen, but have not seen any reports of the incident.

When did it happen?


My error! I did not read The Daily Sun one day and I miss out! Thanks for the link.

nyclicker
10-27-2017, 07:24 AM
Posted: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:36 pm
Lady Lake Police are advising motorists to be a little cautious after they handled an attempted carjacking incident earlier today. It happened around 10:20 a.m. at La Grande Blvd. and La Plaza Parkway. Police say a red Cadillac bumped into the rear of blue Mercedes driven by a senior woman. When the woman got out to check for damage, one of three male suspects got into her vehicle, but was unsuccessful in getting the car in gear to drive off. The three male suspects fled the scene in their vehicle after bystanders called 911. Police were unable to provide detailed suspect descriptions at this time. Police Chief Chris McKinstry reminds motorists if they suspect something unusual or don't believe car collision was accidental, they should wait for others or call 911.

Taltarzac725
10-27-2017, 07:24 AM
We need to be careful out there. Police issue safety alert after attempted carjacking - The Villages Daily Sun: Breaking News (http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/news/breaking_news/article_c6088c16-ba95-11e7-bfc4-53d5a59ad4ba.html)

justjim
10-27-2017, 07:28 AM
The report is in today’s Daily Sun. It was broad daylight according to the report.

Chellybean
10-27-2017, 07:51 AM
Just wondering if you can defend yourself if you are being carjacked and no bodily harm is happening and they just jump in your car and try to take off.
Be careful folks you don't get yourself in a position of defending whether or not they where trying to car jack your car.
little FYI to think about.
Call the police and get a phone pic if you can!

Taltarzac725
10-27-2017, 08:00 AM
Just wondering if you can defend yourself if you are being carjacked and no bodily harm is happening and they just jump in your car and try to take off.
Be careful folks you don't get yourself in a position of defending whether or not they where trying to car jack your car.
little FYI to think about.
Call the police and get a phone pic if you can!

Here's a link--

Florida Law on Self-Defense | Use of Deadly and Non Deadly Force (http://www.husseinandwebber.com/case-work/criminal-defense-articles/self-defense-florida/)

Chellybean
10-27-2017, 08:17 AM
Thank You for the Link but i am aware of the castle doctrine.
You better hope the perp has a record or you have good witnesses and the perk is DOA.
If not there could be a lot of doubt accused against you my friend and a very expensive lawsuit to defend your action even if your in the right.
You may sincerely feel your life is threaten but pulling the trigger for a car jack with no physical harm would put yourself in a bad position if you get my point.
I am very pro NRA and get your point but just be Careful or you will be spending a million dollars to stay out of jail for some scum bag trying to steal your car.
just my opinion.

vintageogauge
10-27-2017, 08:25 AM
If you're not driving a luxury car I wouldn't be too concerned about it. There are a few cheaper models that are used for parts and are sold to chop shops but exporting stolen luxury cars is pretty big now and being near to the port may make TV new hunting grounds for the pigs that do this sort of thing.

graciegirl
10-27-2017, 08:27 AM
perp

Taltarzac725
10-27-2017, 08:34 AM
Thank You for the Link but i am aware of the castle doctrine.
You better hope the perk has a record or you have good witnesses and the perk is DOA.
If not there could be a lot of doubt accused against you my friend and a very expensive lawsuit to defend your action even if your in the right.
You may sincerely feel your life is threaten but pulling the trigger for a car jack with no physical harm would put yourself in a bad position if you get my point.
I am very pro NRA and get your point but just be Careful or you will be spending a million dollars to stay out of jail for some scum bag trying to steal your car.
just my opinion.

The circumstances are still very important when you decide to defend yourself with force. I was in an attempted car jacking in Nevada in the Spring of 1984. Had been driving from Denver into a very barren area of Nevada near the Utah border on US 50. Pulled into a rest stop and a man came up and demanded I get out of the car. I was so tired I just moved my legs fast from where he was threatening to slam the door on them, started the car, aimed it at him in front of me, and then backed up as quickly as I could. Still had to stop to rest as soon as possible though. I had thought of running this attempted carjacker over but the circumstances I believe would not have been in my favor.

Chellybean
10-27-2017, 08:35 AM
perp

lol thanks Gracie, just poor typing skills. l.o.l.

graciegirl
10-27-2017, 08:45 AM
lol thanks Gracie, just poor typing skills. l.o.l.

We all do it.

I still don't know how to type forebearance. It is coming up spelled incorrectly on another post.

I shouldn't have said it. Carry on Chelly.

dewilson58
10-27-2017, 08:49 AM
A good reminder for all.

Thanks OP

Chatbrat
10-27-2017, 10:15 AM
If you're in your car castle doctrine, will apply-if out of your car proof of self defense gets dicy--example: you see a person exit your home with your belongs--deadly force is not justified unless the "perp" is armed

Most important fact is to remember the following words after a use of deadly force,"officer I will cooperate with authorities once my attorney is besides me" till then get lock jaw

graciegirl
10-27-2017, 10:20 AM
They are going to have to steal my car and take my belongings.

I am pretty sure I can't shoot anybody.

But...............

No one has tried to steal my car or my belongings yet. Ever. Anywhere. In my whole life.

I think a person's past history and happenings around them in their previous areas might color their views on this.

I do support second amendment rights. I just don't feel the need here to own a gun.





yet.

Chellybean
10-27-2017, 10:30 AM
If you're in your car castle doctrine, will apply-if out of your car proof of self defense gets dicy--example: you see a person exit your home with your belongs--deadly force is not justified unless the "perp" is armed

Most important fact is to remember the following words after a use of deadly force,"officer I will cooperate with authorities once my attorney is besides me" till then get lock jaw

well spoken made my point clear

bbbbbb
10-27-2017, 10:37 AM
Here's a link--

Florida Law on Self-Defense | Use of Deadly and Non Deadly Force (http://www.husseinandwebber.com/case-work/criminal-defense-articles/self-defense-florida/)

Comment and suggestion:
There are some excellent Pepper Sprays etc. on the market. They are legal and effective. We took a course with the Police Dept. in another state. We have a certificate. If someone enters your private space, as in a car jacking, then you hold the spray out and say STOP! THAT IS ALL.
Then do the spray, then you can walk closer and do a backup second spray to guarantee your safety.
There are several brands. Kimber makes an excellent spray unit, powerful, two shots, potent. A big dog attacked me on my bike, in Oregon, lots of big dogs on the run. I got him, the owner ran out cussing, I told him to stop and he stopped. Lucky him.
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Chatbrat
10-27-2017, 11:02 AM
You can't read a bad guys mind- in Short Hills NJ @ the Mall which is very very high end, Bloomingdales, Lord & Taylor a young attorney was killed in front of his wife by car jackers who stole his Range Rover--if he had a gun he might be alive

IMHO--if you can, carry--you only get one life no do overs--its not a kids game in the real world--AND you don't take pepper spray to a potential gun fight

Chellybean
10-27-2017, 11:07 AM
You can't read a bad guys mind- in Short Hills NJ @ the Mall which is very very high end, Bloomingdales, Lord & Taylor a young attorney was killed in front of his wife by car jackers who stole his Range Rover--if he had a gun he might be alive

IMHO--if you can, carry--you only get one life no do overs--its not a kids game in the real world--AND you don't take pepper spray to a potential gun fight

That's very sad and your point is well taken, Carried by 6 or judged by 12

bbbbbb
10-27-2017, 11:13 AM
You can't read a bad guys mind- in Short Hills NJ @ the Mall which is very very high end, Bloomingdales, Lord & Taylor a young attorney was killed in front of his wife by car jackers who stole his Range Rover--if he had a gun he might be alive

IMHO--if you can, carry--you only get one life no do overs--its not a kids game in the real world--AND you don't take pepper spray to a potential gun fight

Yes, but there are folks who do not want to carry a gun or use a gun.. So Pepper spray may be the answer.
For the ladies, a lot of them are approached by jerks who think they are an easy prey. It is sad they way we are coddling criminals and bringing them in. Well, I did not say take pepper spray to a potential gun fight.
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Chi-Town
10-27-2017, 01:35 PM
The bump and run ruse is as old as I can remember. Same old technique.....a car behind you with more than one occupant hits you from the rear. In certain neighborhoods you just drive away, as it was not worth the risk to get out of your car. Occasionally they would do it again. Then you hightail it out of there to a safer area. One other thing you learned in those neighnorhoods is never pull up close to a car in front if you, so you can't get hemmed in. A sad commentary, isn't it?

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Fredster
10-27-2017, 05:57 PM
The bump and run ruse is as old as I can remember. Same old technique.....a car behind you with more than one occupant hits you from the rear. In certain neighborhoods you just drive away, as it was not worth the risk to get out of your car. Occasionally they would do it again. Then you hightail it out of there to a safer area. One other thing you learned in those neighnorhoods is never pull up close to a car in front if you, so you can't get hemmed in. A sad commentary, isn't it?

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Reminds me of the many years I drove into Chicago from the burbs.
When traveling through sketchy areas, at traffic lights I always left room for an escape route ahead of me,
and was constantly checking the rear view mirrors.
Always made sure the car was in tip top condition.
I felt going through certain areas that it was like flying over a mountain range in a single engine plane,
and you sure hoped that engine didn’t fail!
I think it is wise to be alert even in certain areas of TV,
and the surrounding towns!

kcrazorbackfan
10-27-2017, 07:19 PM
We do not leave the house without being armed (my SW Bodyguard .380 and my wife's Glock 27 .40). Incidents like what happened to that lady will not happen to either one of us.

As I railed on so many times until I got tired of hearing rebuttal from the snowflakes, always keep your head on a swivel and be aware of your surroundings; it just might save your life.