Trump at Sharon on Tuesday.

[Taltarzac725]

This is probably going to be an area to avoid on that day.

[billlaur]

a historical event HERE IN THE VILLAGES...IT DOESNT GET ANY BETTER

[Taltarzac725]

It sounds like they vetted the people invited to this already so it looks like a done deal as far as who is going. Just going by what is on Facebook for the Sharon and The Villages Daily Sun.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

CIA, Secret Service, FBI, aides, assistants, advisors, local, county, state police, all taking up the parking spaces, and blocking off access to and from the building for security reasons.

In most locations, there's plenty of real estate available to barricade off, so the locals can still come and go without too much inconvenience. This location though - it's gonna be a nightmare. Especially with golf courses closed due to excessive rain, Morse under construction in some spots and Buena Vista in other spots - be interesting to see how this goes just from a logistics point of view. Will they be able to keep Spanish Springs town square open the two hours before, during, and after the event, or will they have to clear the whole thing out? Will the golf cart bridge be open, or will they require it to be blocked off for security reasons?

No one knows now, and I won't be down there this week but I expect that if there was the insanity of traffic/backup/frustration that I'm thinking there might be, it'll be posted. Maybe on some other forum but it'll definitely be posted somewhere.

[BobnBev]

It'll be the tightest security that The Villages has ever seen. I'm predicting a total lockdown of the whole area.

[CWGUY]

:shocked: And It's vendor night! :ho:

[Rango]

:shocked: And It's vendor night! :ho:

Nothing can pre-empt vendor night. :a20:

[CWGUY]

Nothing can pre-empt vendor night. :a20:

He heard Bob Martin makes great lawn light signs and is picking one up for the White House. :coolsmiley:

[graciegirl]

Many of us will welcome him. Just as many would respect and be proud to have any president here.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Hmmmm, I am not worrying. Many of us will welcome him. Just as many would respect and be proud to have any president here.

What does that have to do with the concern I brought up? Which is - logistics, parking, access by Villager residents, visitors, and pass-through traffic in an already-congested area which - as someone pointed out - is happening on vendor night.

Whether I respect the president or not is 100% absolutely positively irrelevant.

The spray-tan thing was adding a touch of humor to what was a serious question.

[manaboutown]

Welcome to The Villages, President Trump!

[Aces4]

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[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It's pretty much a given that it's going to be a significant event. If the only kinds of posts allowed in this thread were people saying how excited they are that the president is coming to town, it would be a really really boring thread.

Thankfully, this is a discussion forum, where people are allowed to discuss things. The topic is the location of the event, which will be significant.

One aspect of this event is going to be logistics.

Do you have something to add to the topic?

[DeanFL]

It's pretty much a given that it's going to be a significant event. If the only kinds of posts allowed in this thread were people saying how excited they are that the president is coming to town, it would be a really really boring thread.

Do you have something to add to the topic?

This IS historic. Personally I would LOVE to go see ANY President (in or out of Office). I'm Independent and it would be an honor to personally view the Pres. Shame that it appears to be a fund-raising matter and not a rally or speech. How wonderful it would have been to have it in the Polo Field with thousands. I would have gone to see Pres Obama, Trump, or whoever is next in line... Too bad - coming all they way to TV, and the general "public" is shut out.

[Aces4]

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[Aces4]

This IS historic. Personally I would LOVE to go see ANY President (in or out of Office). I'm Independent and it would be an honor to personally view the Pres. Shame that it appears to be a fund-raising matter and not a rally or speech. How wonderful it would have been to have it in the Polo Field with thousands. I would have gone to see Pres Obama, Trump, or whoever is next in line... Too bad - coming all they way to TV, and the general "public" is shut out.

I agree and would enjoy being in any one of those audiences.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Okay. I edited out the offending 2 words to my previous post. The intention of the post, the actual question, the actual concern, stands. Perhaps we can return to civil discourse instead of taking what was a humorous two words of my usual long-winded posts, and turning them into another opportunity to take potshots at me, personally?

[Aces4]

Okay. I edited out the offending 2 words to my previous post. The intention of the post, the actual question, the actual concern, stands. Perhaps we can return to civil discourse instead of taking what was a humorous two words of my usual long-winded posts, and turning them into another opportunity to take potshots at me, personally?

I really appreciate that and respect your decision.

[alemorkam]

We were there when President Bush was on Sumter Landing Market Square. Was a great time, and a memory to stand next to a President, whichever party.

[Polar Bear]

A presidential visit means lots of logistical issues...and related headaches for many who see it that way. It’s no different for The Villages than it is for any other location.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

A presidential visit means lots of logistical issues...and related headaches for many who see it that way. It’s no different for The Villages than it is for any other location.

I think it would be more complicated because presidents don't typically show up in what amounts to little more than a single one-way traffic circle with a concrete slab in the middle, a strip mall on each of the four blocks facing it, and 6 narrow side-roads that feed in and out of the middle - three of which are against the sides and front of the Morse Performing Arts Center.

It's very concentrated traffic. When the president goes to New York City, the traffic is also a nightmare for hours before and after the visit.

Any time ANY president goes to a traffic-centric place, the risk to the president's life and health is through the roof. So they tend to close stuff off to the public and divert traffic around the venue.

In the case of Spanish Springs, there's not a lot of diverting you can do. The building faces the busiest section of that entire part of the Villages, with regards to traffic. The only way I can think of to minimize security risks would be to close it down completely for the standard 2 hours prior to his expected arrival and until he is well on his way out of the community.

That's why I was asking about it.

[tophcfa]

I guess I won't be swimming laps at the La Hacienda sports pool on Tuesday. Wish I could get a seat at the Sharon. Oh well, will read about it in Wednesdays paper.

[pauld315]

A little disappointing that he would not opt for a more rally like setting like Bush did a few years back.....allowing for more of those who support him to participate.

I wonder if that was his preference or TV powers that be!?!

If GWB packed somewhere around 16K into Lake Sumter to see him back then, you would need the polo grounds to accommodate a Trump rally. There would be over 50K people there ! V.ery difficult logistics for a security etc

[graciegirl]

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[anothersteve]

I'm guessing they will bring Trump in through the rear of the Sharon, via Morse and Paige. I wonder if they will keep the square open. That would be a real kick for Trump to come out and Blue Stone Circle announces while playing Hail to the Chief....."ladies and gentlemen..the President of the United States".

One can dream.
Steve

[Velvet]

Maybe the visit will disrupt traffic... but we’ll have something to talk about for a long time to come. “When the President was in TV.....”

[Dond1959]

When I worked in London out of the US Embassy Bush II was coming over for a visit. The British media really blasted him and were complaining on and on before the visit about traffic, costs, and other issues. Bush and Colin Powell came to visit the embassy staff and the First comment from the President was “everybody was worried about the traffic, I haven’t had a problem”. Classic Bush and the place erupted with laughter.

Bottom line is wherever a President goes there will be traffic and other headaches, you just have to deal with it the best that you can and try to stay out of the impacted area if possible.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Yes, I'm sure there will be a lot of traffic. But that wasn't the question, or the concern. It was whether or not they'd need to CLOSE roads and divert traffic, maybe close the Spanish Springs town square completely, or possibly even the golf cart bridge. and I also said that no one will know this information yet, and I said that I'm sure as someone does, it'll be posted on a forum, either here or elsewhere.

[Midnight Cowgirl]

Do ya think he'll stay overnight in one of the Lifestyle Visit houses?
There'd be enough bedrooms for the Secret Service to stay in the same house with him!!?!

[Fredster]

Having President Trump coming to The Villages is a very special occasion,
and dealing with a bit of extra traffic for awhile near
the Sharon will gladly be accepted by most folks in TV.
Welcome, President Trump!

[Kahuna32162]

I can't tell you how happy we are that we are in Michigan.right now. On another note, did you know that The Villages Parrotheads are the largest Parrotheads group in the world? So how come Jimmy Buffett hasn't come here yet?

[Bay Kid]

Great to have our President in our town.

[TimeForChange]

If there was any possible way to attend I would immediately write a check for $2000. My wife included. I don't understand why they would not sell some seats for donations to campaign.

[collie1228]

It'll be the tightest security that The Villages has ever seen. I'm predicting a total lockdown of the whole area.

I'm sure you are correct. I had the misfortune to be in Manhattan when Bill Clinton blew through town for a political event, and the entire midtown section was shut down. No cars, taxis, buses, etc. for about ten square blocks, and cops on every street corner. Simply ridiculous.

[Nucky]

The Leader Of The Free World is Coming To Our Community. Act Accordingly!

Can't you just imagine it sometime down the road? Why did the President go to OTOTW instead of The Villages? How do you act when you have company?

[Taltarzac725]

I can't tell you how happy we are that we are in Michigan.right now. On another note, did you know that The Villages Parrotheads are the largest Parrotheads group in the world? So how come Jimmy Buffett hasn't come here yet?

About Us (https://villagesparrotheads.com/about.htm)

He might have come here without fanfare.

[graciegirl]

I am pretty sure he has been here.

Not officially in the time we have been here which is fourteen years.

[billethkid]

It is great that Trump is coming to TV.
As I said before, it is unfortunate the visit will not allow more residents to participate.
The decision was probably driven by opting to avoid the daily downpours and thunderstorms.

[Taltarzac725]

It is great that Trump is coming to TV.
As I said before, it is unfortunate the visit will not allow more residents to participate.
The decision was probably driven by opting to avoid the daily downpours and thunderstorms.

And the Sharon is a relatively safe location if they do A LOT of checking around the location before, during and after.

I kind of think they are here already looking around. I mean the Secret Service and other alphabet agencies.

[Iowagirl2]

Does any one know what time he will be in the area? I am moving to the villages from Georgia that day.

[Taltarzac725]

Does any one know what time he will be in the area? I am moving to the villages from Georgia that day.

I doubt if they will give any of that information. Maybe approximate and the like.

I would just avoid Spanish Springs for much of Tuesday until it clears out.

You could use side streets to get to homes in that area. Just make sure you have a map of the Villages. Some of the streets do not really go anywhere just loop around. Easy to get lost in the Villages when new or in unfamiliar territory like a new Village. AAA has maps of the Villages.

[Aces4]

I think it would be more complicated because presidents don't typically show up in what amounts to little more than a single one-way traffic circle with a concrete slab in the middle, a strip mall on each of the four blocks facing it, and 6 narrow side-roads that feed in and out of the middle - three of which are against the sides and front of the Morse Performing Arts Center.

It's very concentrated traffic. When the president goes to New York City, the traffic is also a nightmare for hours before and after the visit.

Any time ANY president goes to a traffic-centric place, the risk to the president's life and health is through the roof. So they tend to close stuff off to the public and divert traffic around the venue.

In the case of Spanish Springs, there's not a lot of diverting you can do. The building faces the busiest section of that entire part of the Villages, with regards to traffic. The only way I can think of to minimize security risks would be to close it down completely for the standard 2 hours prior to his expected arrival and until he is well on his way out of the community.

That's why I was asking about it.

I know you haven’t lived in The Villages very long so i’d like to reassure you that this event will be well managed and probably not anymore difficult than closing the Squares down for art shows, barbecues, chili cookoffs, etc.

The Sharon has hosted some very large venues and it’s just not that big of an issue for most people to deal with a temporary inconvenience that may be necessary for the short visit of President Trump. These special events are welcome after the routine sameness day in and day out here, enjoy!

[fw102807]

Please don't start. 'Nuff said
Steve

I agree, 42 posts and still civil. That is remarkable.

[Velvet]

Yep! Just look at the GDP rankings for example. US is number one.

[New Englander]

It's pretty much a given that it's going to be a significant event. If the only kinds of posts allowed in this thread were people saying how excited they are that the president is coming to town, it would be a really really boring thread.

Thankfully, this is a discussion forum, where people are allowed to discuss things. The topic is the location of the event, which will be significant.

One aspect of this event is going to be logistics.

Do you have something to add to the topic?


I believe that the Secret Service will figure out the logistics. That's part of their job.

[Chi-Town]

Yep! Just look at the GDP rankings for example. US is number one.Number one for as long as I can remember. Number two was the Soviet union, then Japan, and now China. China's growth is scary.







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[Midnight Cowgirl]

I agree, 42 posts and still civil. That is remarkable.


That's probably because some have been deleted!
:a040:

[Velvet]

Yes, there is potential for emotional divisions. Personally, I think it is possible to separate the office of the President from the actual person holding it.

[Two Bills]

I can't tell you how happy we are that we are in Michigan.right now. On another note, did you know that The Villages Parrotheads are the largest Parrotheads group in the world? So how come Jimmy Buffett hasn't come here yet?

Just have to make do with Shanghai Buffet!

[perrjojo]

Years ago I was in Berlin when President Clinton was visiting. He was not my choice and that time he was in the middle of the Lewinsky scandal. My feelings for him at that time were not particularly benevolent. I was interviewed on television asking me, as an American how did I feel about my seeing my President there. My answer was, it’s alway an honor to see the President of my country. Please act respectful of the office even if you do not respect the man.

[karostay]

So who has a golden ticket to attend ?

[Taltarzac725]

So who has a golden ticket to attend ?

It looks like Sumter County Republican party officials and various Sumter County Commissioners. That is what was in The Villages Daily Sun article today on their front page. My guess is that various FL Republicans will also be coming like the Attorney General, Governor, Senator, Members of Congress, etc.

Then a sampling of registered Sumter County Republicans.

[Aloha1]

Never say never about the President coming back to TV. There's still over a year before the 2020 election. I was 12 when Jack Kennedy made a campaign stop in my hometown, Roseville, MI. Shook his hand, so there Bill Clinton:icon_wink: It remains a highlight of my life experience. Would love to shake President Trump's hand also or any other elected President of this country.

[Taltarzac725]

Never say never about the President coming back to TV. There's still over a year before the 2020 election. I was 12 when Jack Kennedy made a campaign stop in my hometown, Roseville, MI. Shook his hand, so there Bill Clinton:icon_wink: It remains a highlight of my life experience. Would love to shake President Trump's hand also or any other elected President of this country.

I did see Ronald Reagan at the University of Nevada, Reno around 1982. Not sure of the date. He was out on the Quad which is a large area surrounded by campus buildings. Quite a different time in 2019 when any celebrity has to be on the lookout for deranged fans of all types.

[anothersteve]

"President Trump
The White House has released new details about President Trump’s planned visit to The Villages on Tuesday.

The invitation-only event will be held at 2:15 p.m. at The Sharon L. Morse Performing Arts Center. The president is scheduled to speak about Medicare at the popular 1,000-seat Spanish Springs venue, though it’s unclear how long he will talk or exactly how many people will be attending the event.

The White House also revealed late Friday afternoon that Trump will be arriving at Ocala International Airport aboard Air Force One on Tuesday at about 1 p.m. It’s unclear if he will travel to The Villages by motorcade or whether he’ll fly to the mega-retirement community via helicopter."

Steve

[Steve-Ryzel]

Oh you better not pout
you better not shout
you better not cry
I’m telling you why
Donald Trump is coming to town

Second verse...?

[Northwoods]

My guess is the entire square will be blocked off. I can't image they would let traffic drive past The Sharon.
One example - Some Prime Minister was visiting my home town and I was just trying to get home from the airport. A sheriff wouldn't even let me drive on the overpass (the Prime Minister was going to be in a car that went under that overpass). The sheriff wouldn't even let me get out of my car. A lot of security... and not even the president.

[Northwoods]

No matter how you feel about this president... the fact that the president of the United States is coming to The Villages to deliver a speech is great PR for where we live. They believe The Villages is a strategic place to make a point or advance a program. I think that's a very good thing.

[EdFNJ]

No matter how you feel about this president... the fact that the president of the United States is coming to The Villages to deliver a speech is great PR for where we live. They believe The Villages is a strategic place to make a point or advance a program. I think that's a very good thing. Maybe so but this will definitely make the national news and I can't wait to hear all of the "The Villages" jokes and silly videos generated from the press reporters hanging out around town waiting for the Man to show up. Should be interesting. :)

[anothersteve]

Business's will stay open. Square entertainment is a go. Market Night cancelled. Obviously roads will be closed, traffic rerouted.
Steve

[Taltarzac725]

Business's will stay open. Square entertainment is a go. Market Night cancelled. Obviously roads will be closed, traffic rerouted.
Steve

There goes my $5 movie date at the Rialto this Tuesday. Too hard to get in there and too many people. I do not like crowds all that much.

That does leave Barnstorm and Old Mill Playhouse though.

I could always go to a later $5 movie at the Rialto after all the hoopla has died down.

[Taltarzac725]

Welcome to the Villages President Donald John Trump.

I will admit I am in no way a fan of him and his policies but he is the President of the United States.

[coconutmama]

a historical event HERE IN THE VILLAGES...IT DOESNT GET ANY BETTER

I would rather go to the movies but they are not sure they will be open & I probably will not be able to get a parking spot. Bummer.

[Lottoguy]

Historic? Not even close. Presidents visits towns all the time. Historic is landing on the moon, storming the beaches at Normandy, etc.

[graciegirl]

Historic? Not even close. Presidents visits towns all the time. Historic is landing on the moon, storming the beaches at Normandy, etc.

It is special HERE. It hasn't happened HERE before. Many people HERE will enjoy seeing and remembering it. I am one of them.

[anothersteve]

Historic? Not even close. Presidents visits towns all the time. Historic is landing on the moon, storming the beaches at Normandy, etc.

OK...........How about

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Steve

[CWGUY]

It is special HERE. It hasn't happened HERE before. Many people HERE will enjoy seeing and remembering it. I am one of them.

:icon_wink: Doesn't 43 count?

[kilowatt]

Would hope everything goes well Tuesday and that President would consider doing a rally in the near future.

[jebartle]

I'm trying soooo hard to behave myself, hope moderator is proud of me!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

My guess is the entire square will be blocked off. I can't image they would let traffic drive past The Sharon.
One example - Some Prime Minister was visiting my home town and I was just trying to get home from the airport. A sheriff wouldn't even let me drive on the overpass (the Prime Minister was going to be in a car that went under that overpass). The sheriff wouldn't even let me get out of my car. A lot of security... and not even the president.

It'll be a lot more than the square. I would guess that most of the main streets north of 466 will be blocked off for a while. If you live on on of the streets off of one of the main roads, you may have to show ID in order to get to get home.

This is pretty typical of presidential visits. After Kennedy, Ford and Reagan, the secret service goes well overboard and who could blame them.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I would rather go to the movies but they are not sure they will be open & I probably will not be able to get a parking spot. Bummer.

I'm sure that the theaters at LSL and Brownwood will be open. You could even go to Leesburg or Bellevue if you want to go to the movies. This wouldn't be any different if President Obama or President Clinton was in town.

[anothersteve]

It'll be a lot more than the square. I would guess that most of the main streets north of 466 will be blocked off for a while. If you live on on of the streets off of one of the main roads, you may have to show ID in order to get to get home.

This is pretty typical of presidential visits. After Kennedy, Ford and Reagan, the secret service goes well overboard and who could blame them.
From today's Daily Sun
If someone would be so kind as to flip the image, it would be appreciated
Steve

[CWGUY]

There goes my $5 movie date at the Rialto this Tuesday. Too hard to get in there and too many people. I do not like crowds all that much.

That does leave Barnstorm and Old Mill Playhouse though.

I could always go to a later $5 movie at the Rialto after all the hoopla has died down.

I would rather go to the movies but they are not sure they will be open & I probably will not be able to get a parking spot. Bummer.

:icon_wink: Did you 2 have plans for Tuesday??? :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[manaboutown]

Wish I could be there to see President Trump and hear him speak!

[graciegirl]

:icon_wink: Doesn't 43 count?

Mr. Trump has been here 43 times?????

I didn't know that.

[graciegirl]

I'm trying soooo hard to behave myself, hope moderator is proud of me!

I am proud of you. I know your views and we sometimes do not look at things the same, but you are one of the nicest and smartest people I have met in The Villages or anywhere. It is a privilege to know you and I very much admire your self restraint in this area today just as I have admired so many other wonderful things about you.

Please come by and see me soon.

[jebartle]

I am proud of you. I know your views and we sometimes do not look at things the same, but you are one of the nicest and smartest people I have met in The Villages or anywhere. It is a privilege to know you and I very much admire your self restraint in this area today just as I have admired so many other wonderful things about you.

Please come by and see me soon.

Ahhh, graciegirl, your just saying that 'cause its true, I'm kidding you know, and you my dear, are the one we all admire.

Signed, self-appointed Gracie fan club president

[superbat1]

mr. Trump has been here 43 times?????

I didn't know that.

#43gwb

[Velvet]

Curiouser and curiouser....

[CWGUY]

#43gwb

:ho:Thank you

[iaudit]

Treat people the way you want to be treated. Talk to people the way you want to be talked to. Respect is earned, not given.

[Aces4]

Treat people the way you want to be treated. Talk to people the way you want to be talked to. Respect is earned, not given.

Good advice for the Villagers with a President coming to visit. I did not vote for the last president but I would support the office of the US president elected by the people if he had visited.

[Bucco]

Treat people the way you want to be treated. Talk to people the way you want to be talked to. Respect is earned, not given.

Wouldn't that be a wonderful breath of fresh air