View Full Version : Goulash or Chop Suey
rjn5656
12-11-2019, 03:49 AM
What do you call it? Where are you from?
Kerry Azz
12-11-2019, 07:45 AM
What do you call it? Where are your from?
No idea what’s the dish made from?
rjn5656
12-11-2019, 08:12 AM
We are from Upstate Ny and called it goulash. Our neighbors from Maine called it chop suey. Just curious what other parts of the country called it.
JSR22
12-11-2019, 08:28 AM
In NJ they are 2 entirely different items. Chop Suey comes from a Chinese restaurant and ghoulash is a stew made with meat and vegetables and seasoned with paprika.
retiredguy123
12-11-2019, 08:44 AM
One is a Chinese meal and the other is a shoe.
oldtimes
12-11-2019, 01:15 PM
In NJ they are 2 entirely different items. Chop Suey comes from a Chinese restaurant and ghoulash is a stew made with meat and vegetables and seasoned with paprika.
I believe the OP is referring to American Chop Suey which is still not the same as Goulash
American Chop Suey Recipe - Food.com (https://www.food.com/recipe/american-chop-suey-416373)
laryb
12-11-2019, 05:09 PM
My mother and father made American Chop Suey for us, and they also called it both American Chop Suey and goulash. It's hamburg, tomato sauce and elbow macaroni. They would also put diced breakfast sausage in it, though that's not traditional. Other variations included diced green pepper and/or onions. In southeastern Ma., it was served almost weekly in school cafeteria's. I still make it to this day and love it. It's a special treat as I'm trying to cut back on pasta
JSR22
12-11-2019, 05:28 PM
My mother and father made American Chop Suey for us, and they also called it both American Chop Suey and goulash. It's hamburg, tomato sauce and elbow macaroni. They would also put diced breakfast sausage in it, though that's not traditional. Other variations included diced green pepper and/or onions. In southeastern Ma., it was served almost weekly in school cafeteria's. I still make it to this day and love it. It's a special treat as I'm trying to cut back on pasta
I learned something new today. I had never heard of American Chop Suey. We never had that in our school's cafeterias.
graciegirl
12-11-2019, 07:42 PM
I thought Chop Suey came in a can and had bean sprouts in it. I have heard Goulash is similar to Ohio's Johnny Marzetti without the brown sugar.
Here is Johnny Marzetti recipe from Ohio that used to be taken to every wake, pot luck and party and picnic.
A pound of hamburger.
One onion minced. Brown together.
Add...One can of tomato sauce and one can of tomatoes
One tablespoon of yellow mustard and one tablespoon of Worcestershire sauce and a a little bit of vinegar and about 3/4 of a cup of brown sugar. Add either cooked macaroni or noodles and about a half cup of grated parmesan and 3/4 cup of American or Cheddar cheese.
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Rosebud2020
12-11-2019, 11:13 PM
Some of these comments could make one gag, but the real scoop is that goulash is a Hungarian stew type dish and chop suey is Chinese.
CFrance
12-12-2019, 03:43 PM
Some of these comments could make one gag, but the real scoop is that goulash is a Hungarian stew type dish and chop suey is Chinese.
From the posts, and none of them made me gag--it appears to depend on where you are from as to what it is called. Just like the sauce/gravy issue.
Western PA has a lot of Eastern European families going back to when coal mining and steel fabrication were big. Definitely we called it goulash. But there are different ways to make goulash as well.
bilcon
12-12-2019, 03:57 PM
Rosebud is right on. Don't go to Hungry and ask for Chop Suey. Their Goulash is great and their paprika is great. Last time we were there, we even went to the Paprika Museum. Seriously! I never knew there were so many types of paprika. Never saw that in Chop Suey. In my opinion there is definitely a difference in the two dishes. I used to compare Goulash with Beef stew in NY , but never with Chop Suey. Sorry I was so long winded.
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Velvet
12-12-2019, 04:35 PM
The wording reminds me of when I was at Cocoa Beach and I asked for crème brûlée which was on their menu, and they brought me chocolate pudding with berry sauce on top. When I protested they said it is their version of crème brûlée.
NotGolfer
12-12-2019, 05:15 PM
We're from the Upper Midwest...goulash was/is browned hamburger, tomato sauce and elbow macaroni. Chop Suey came in a can, don't think it was ever warmed in the house I grew up in.
Fredster
12-12-2019, 07:58 PM
Some of these comments could make one gag, but the real scoop is that goulash is a Hungarian stew type dish and chop suey is Chinese.
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DescriptionGoulash is a stew or soup of meat and vegetables usually seasoned with paprika and other spices. Originating in medieval Hungary, goulash is a common meal predominantly eaten in Central Europe but also in other parts of Europe. It is one of the national dishes of Hungary and a symbol of the country.
Wikipedia
Velvet
12-12-2019, 08:31 PM
Yes, Gulyás (in English Goulash) it was what the shepherds made while in the field tending sheep along with their puli dogs. Using a cauldron over open fire, meat (usually pork) and whatever root vegetables they had on hand spiced with (lots of) red paprika and salt. Stirred till the stew was thick and well done.
No bean sprouts, water chestnuts, bamboo shoots (the Hungarian shepherds never heard of them) or noodles went into the gulyás.
l2ridehd
12-13-2019, 08:35 AM
We called it American Chop Suey in NH and was served at school and home.
A pound of hamburger.
One onion minced. Brown together.
One green or red pepper browned with above
Add...One can of tomato sauce and one can of tomatoes
Elbow macaroni
Also the mustard and Worcestershire sauce
Some added brown sugar and some didn't. Depends on how acidic the tomatoes were. But with only a tablespoon
Top with grated Parmesan cheese and cheddar cheese.
So very close to Gracie's
carolfry44
12-13-2019, 09:52 PM
I am also from upstate NY. It is goulash.
graciegirl
12-14-2019, 06:38 AM
I am also from upstate NY. It is goulash.
I am from Ohio and we call ours Johnny Marzetti and we drink pop with it and sometimes beer, but never citrus flavored beer. YUCK-O!!
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