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birdiebill
04-30-2020, 08:17 AM
Most people have wondered what will be open beginning Monday, May 4 in the Villages. Todays Rec News insert in the Daily Sun lists what will be open in the recreation and parks amenities beginning May 4. It also lists the restrictions and recommendations for the use of those amenities. Too extensive for me to list here.

ficoguy
04-30-2020, 08:21 AM
Its all too complicated. People will be confused and not follow.
Snowbirds can go home now - thats good - I can get a tee time at a reasonable hour

LiverpoolWalrus
04-30-2020, 08:24 AM
Can someone post a link to that Rec News issue? Or at least tell me if the Enrichment Academy and any club activities will resume in the clubhouses during the first phase? Thanks

JSR22
04-30-2020, 08:32 AM
Specifically states no club activities. I did not see any mention of the Enrichment Academy.

skip0358
04-30-2020, 08:37 AM
Not much of a change. There are those who will follow the guidelines and those who haven't been doing what they should have been will still do as they damn well please.

2newyorkers
04-30-2020, 08:43 AM
I find the info in the Recreation News very vague. I am not a rule breaker so I have questions such as are we allowed to meet with others in public places while keeping social distancing? If so does that start tomorrow or Monday?

Doro22
04-30-2020, 09:19 AM
I find the info in the Recreation News very vague. I am not a rule breaker so I have questions such as are we allowed to meet with others in public places while keeping social distancing? If so does that start tomorrow or Monday?

I too found the wording of what will be opening at the Rec centers very vague. Does the article mean that clay & glass clubs can meet? Or not meet?

birdiebill
04-30-2020, 09:49 AM
Organized clubs and academy classes are not going to open in phase 1.

cmj1210
04-30-2020, 09:52 AM
Rec centers will be opened but no activities. Pools are the only thing opened in Phase I. Masks must be worn when not in pool. The rec center and pools will be closely monitored.

I too found the wording of what will be opening at the Rec centers very vague. Does the article mean that clay & glass clubs can meet? Or not meet?

thelegges
04-30-2020, 09:54 AM
So everyone wanted to keep visitors away, yet only opened family pools. How are you going to keep kids at a distance

Altavia
04-30-2020, 12:10 PM
Rec centers will be opened but no activities. Pools are the only thing opened in Phase I. Masks must be worn when not in pool. The rec center and pools will be closely monitored.


So someone takes off the mask, placing it on a surface, now contaminating that surface, or picking up contamination from that surface. Comes back and puts it back on for direct surface to face contact.

Wearing masks outside with social distancing is at best an overabundance of caution. Possibly worse worse than nothing at all since most people don't know how to use them correctly in any event.

linedancingdottie
04-30-2020, 09:24 PM
I had registered for a class that was to be held in March but rescheduled for May 19 so I guess that opening is part of Phase II , which begins on May 4.

runkcrun
05-01-2020, 06:31 AM
Below is a link to The District Weekly Bulletin from April 29. This has very definitive information on what will be open and what rules are for use. Don't see anything about requiring wearing face masks. The District.gov site has this information also. I would think that would be the best place for information.
Note: not all pools will be open. Only a select few neighborhood pools will be open. My take is that is because of size of pool area.

https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/PDFMeeting.aspx?id=20200429001301

nancymiller217@yahoo.com
05-01-2020, 06:53 AM
Rec centers will be opened but no activities.

Is there anyone else that finds that as Stupid as I do? From what I’ve read, about the only additional activities are swim or walk laps in a pool-with a mask. And fish-with a mask, or walk on a park with a mask.

Danz654
05-01-2020, 09:36 AM
Don’t count on it. What do they have to go home too. Better off here , and they know it. Can’t blame them. Golf courses are closed where they come from. More than likely

RosemarySoso
05-01-2020, 09:43 AM
Its all too complicated. People will be confused and not follow.
Snowbirds can go home now - thats good - I can get a tee time at a reasonable hour
I will ignore your rudeness. We are snowbirds who pay taxes and support businesses here in the Villages. If you weren’t so dense, you would realize that a third of the courses are closed thereby making tee times a bit more difficult for everyone including those darn snowbirds. It’s people like you who give year-rounders the snooty reputation.

coffeebean
05-01-2020, 09:52 AM
I too found the wording of what will be opening at the Rec centers very vague. Does the article mean that clay & glass clubs can meet? Or not meet?

Just what we seniors need.......instructions and direction clear as mud.😩

Bogie Shooter
05-01-2020, 10:38 AM
Its all too complicated. People will be confused and not follow.
Snowbirds can go home now - thats good - I can get a tee time at a reasonable hour

Bashing snowbirds is so intelligent...………………………...

Bogie Shooter
05-01-2020, 10:41 AM
Can someone post a link to that Rec News issue? Or at least tell me if the Enrichment Academy and any club activities will resume in the clubhouses during the first phase? Thanks

http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/app/recnews/

Chi-Town
05-01-2020, 11:00 AM
I am looking forward to the Cinco de Mayo event at Spanish Springs Tuesday.

Indydealmaker
05-01-2020, 12:10 PM
Is there anyone else that finds that as Stupid as I do? From what I’ve read, about the only additional activities are swim or walk laps in a pool-with a mask. And fish-with a mask, or walk on a park with a mask.

Many people use the rec centers just to relax and/or use the free wifi.

Bogie Shooter
05-01-2020, 02:32 PM
Is there anyone else that finds that as Stupid as I do? From what I’ve read, about the only additional activities are swim or walk laps in a pool-with a mask. And fish-with a mask, or walk on a park with a mask.

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photo1902
05-01-2020, 02:37 PM
Bashing snowbirds is so intelligent...………………………...

And so overdone.

Lovely Louella
05-01-2020, 03:17 PM
Really??? They buy homes and pay the same amount of taxes that year-round people pay. If you don’t like living there because TV has grown so much, my suggestion to you is move. These same people support all the area restaurants, grocery stores, etc. They keep people in the area heavily employed during the times they are able to be there. I can’t believe the arrogance of your comment. Your not entitled to anything more or less than the snowbirds are. A lot of the snowbirds choose to head North during the summertime where the temperature is more bearable for them and to be around and enjoy their families. SMDH!

Marvic 1
05-01-2020, 05:59 PM
Really??? They buy homes and pay the same amount of taxes that year-round people pay. If you don’t like living there because TV has grown so much, my suggestion to you is move. These same people support all the area restaurants, grocery stores, etc. They keep people in the area heavily employed during the times they are able to be there. I can’t believe the arrogance of your comment. Your not entitled to anything more or less than the snowbirds are. A lot of the snowbirds choose to head North during the summertime where the temperature is more bearable for them and to be around and enjoy their families. SMDH!

The reason they say that is because when "Snowbirds" are not here their is less traffic, golf when you please, prices go down, walk into a restaurants and sit at a table, etc., etc., etc....

Vacationers
05-01-2020, 06:06 PM
Pools are open for Residents not children and grandchildren who should be in their own homes and therefore not here!

tophcfa
05-01-2020, 06:27 PM
The reason they say that is because when "Snowbirds" are not here their is less traffic, golf when you please, prices go down, walk into a restaurants and sit at a table, etc., etc., etc....

Sounds to me like they should be thankful for and love snowbirds. If there were no snowbirds, and everyone was full time, It would always be crowded.

thelegges
05-01-2020, 06:31 PM
Its all too complicated. People will be confused and not follow.
Snowbirds can go home now - thats good - I can get a tee time at a reasonable hour

How about SnowBirds stay year round, and then see what how that effects your life. Wouldn’t that be perfect for those ugly comments on those who stay for a few months, pay the same taxes as you, and then give you 9 months of bliss of less people.

joseppe
05-01-2020, 10:50 PM
Most people have wondered what will be open beginning Monday, May 4 in the Villages. Todays Rec News insert in the Daily Sun lists what will be open in the recreation and parks amenities beginning May 4. It also lists the restrictions and recommendations for the use of those amenities. Too extensive for me to list here.
I'm wondering who's going to do all the 'Enforcing' of the rules/restrictions and what the punishments might be. Is someone going to continually be checking on each of the pools to be sure no one is moving their chairs closer than 6 feet?

Bogie Shooter
05-02-2020, 10:27 AM
The reason they say that is because when "Snowbirds" are not here their is less traffic, golf when you please, prices go down, walk into a restaurants and sit at a table, etc., etc., etc....

That does not make it right!

Bogie Shooter
05-02-2020, 10:28 AM
I'm wondering who's going to do all the 'Enforcing' of the rules/restrictions and what the punishments might be. Is someone going to continually be checking on each of the pools to be sure no one is moving their chairs closer than 6 feet?

Yep.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-02-2020, 10:37 AM
How about SnowBirds stay year round, and then see what how that effects your life. Wouldn’t that be perfect for those ugly comments on those who stay for a few months, pay the same taxes as you, and then give you 9 months of bliss of less people.

Actually many of those snowbirds pay more than we do - because they don't get the homestead exemption.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-02-2020, 10:43 AM
Is there anyone else that finds that as Stupid as I do? From what I’ve read, about the only additional activities are swim or walk laps in a pool-with a mask. And fish-with a mask, or walk on a park with a mask.

There's nothing requiring people to wear a mask in anything opening during phase II. The only mention of masks is that you have to bring your own. So if you CHOOSE to wear a mask - that's great, but the rec centers and pools will not provide you with them.

birdiebill
05-02-2020, 11:07 AM
According to page 7 of the Rec News from this week, rightly or wrongly, masks are required in The Villages phase 2 for all indoor and outdoor activities (of the rec department)*. The Villages phase 2 begins Monday, May 4.

*Of the rec department added by me.

It remains to be seen how that is defined.

Altavia
05-02-2020, 12:55 PM
From one of the gates at a family pool.

Marathon Man
05-02-2020, 02:36 PM
There's nothing requiring people to wear a mask in anything opening during phase II. The only mention of masks is that you have to bring your own. So if you CHOOSE to wear a mask - that's great, but the rec centers and pools will not provide you with them.

Are you sure about that?

thelegges
05-02-2020, 07:07 PM
Actually many of those snowbirds pay more than we do - because they don't get the homestead exemption.

It depends on where they live. TV taxes for us is less than our property’s up north. So homestead here makes no sense.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-02-2020, 07:25 PM
It depends on where they live. TV taxes for us is less than our property’s up north. So homestead here makes no sense.

I'm sure it makes no sense for you, because your tax down here is less than the tax up north. But your tax bill down here, without qualifying for homesteading, will STILL be higher than someone who DOES qualify for homesteading for the same property.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-02-2020, 07:31 PM
Are you sure about that?

According to the PDF provided directly by the Community District Governments as of April 29, 2020, there is no (as in, zero, none, zilch, nada) reference to any requirement of wearing masks, whether in or out of buildings, effective May 4, 2020.

Here's the PDF from the CDD: https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/PDFMeeting.aspx?id=20200429001301

There are lots of guidelines and rules about what you can and can't do, on that PDF. Wearing masks is not among them EXCEPT for the notice that masks, gloves, water, hand sanitizer, and equipment will -not- be provided.

I don't get the rec news, I don't get the Daily Sun, and whenever I try to follow a link to the Rec News section of the Daily Sun online I get a black PDF with no text.

Altavia
05-02-2020, 08:41 PM
According to the PDF provided directly by the Community District Governments as of April 29, 2020, there is no (as in, zero, none, zilch, nada) reference to any requirement of wearing masks, whether in or out of buildings, effective May 4, 2020.

Here's the PDF from the CDD: https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/PDFMeeting.aspx?id=20200429001301

There are lots of guidelines and rules about what you can and can't do, on that PDF. Wearing masks is not among them EXCEPT for the notice that masks, gloves, water, hand sanitizer, and equipment will -not- be provided.

I don't get the rec news, I don't get the Daily Sun, and whenever I try to follow a link to the Rec News section of the Daily Sun online I get a black PDF with no text.

This is on the gates of the pools.

mulligan
05-03-2020, 08:35 AM
According to the PDF provided directly by the Community District Governments as of April 29, 2020, there is no (as in, zero, none, zilch, nada) reference to any requirement of wearing masks, whether in or out of buildings, effective May 4, 2020.

Here's the PDF from the CDD: https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/PDFMeeting.aspx?id=20200429001301

There are lots of guidelines and rules about what you can and can't do, on that PDF. Wearing masks is not among them EXCEPT for the notice that masks, gloves, water, hand sanitizer, and equipment will -not- be provided.

I don't get the rec news, I don't get the Daily Sun, and whenever I try to follow a link to the Rec News section of the Daily Sun online I get a black PDF with no text.

That's because they are in the business of selling subscriptions !!

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-03-2020, 08:48 AM
This is on the gates of the pools.

It's not May 4 yet is it? Perhaps on May 4 those signs will be taken down.

And as far as I know, no one is being instructed to wear masks while they're walking at the parks (which are run by the rec centers), or on the executive courses.

Regarding mulligan's post about buying subscriptions: If there is something important that the rec centers need residents to know, it needs to be made accessible to ALL residents. Not just the ones who pay extra for a subscription to the local newspaper. If they need for me to see the Rec News, then they should have a website dedicated to the Rec News. Not a subdirectory of a paid subscription site.

Or they can accept that some people just won't have access to this information - which implies that they didn't think it was all THAT important afterall.

champion6
05-03-2020, 08:57 AM
It's not May 4 yet is it? Perhaps on May 4 those signs will be taken down.

And as far as I know, no one is being instructed to wear masks while they're walking at the parks (which are run by the rec centers), or on the executive courses.

Regarding mulligan's post about buying subscriptions: If there is something important that the rec centers need residents to know, it needs to be made accessible to ALL residents. Not just the ones who pay extra for a subscription to the local newspaper. If they need for me to see the Rec News, then they should have a website dedicated to the Rec News. Not a subdirectory of a paid subscription site.

Or they can accept that some people just won't have access to this information - which implies that they didn't think it was all THAT important afterall.The Recreation News IS available online at the Daily Sun's website. EVERYONE can look at it.
The Villages Recreation & Parks News (http://thevillagesdailysun.com/app/recnews/index.html)

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-03-2020, 08:59 AM
The Recreation News IS available online at the Daily Sun's website. EVERYONE can look at it.
The Villages Recreation & Parks News (http://thevillagesdailysun.com/app/recnews/index.html)

As I said twice already: when I click on that link, I get a black PDF file with nothing on it.

champion6
05-03-2020, 09:02 AM
As I said twice already: when I click on that link, I get a black PDF file with nothing on it.Turn off your ad blocker and it will work. I had to do this to see it.

NoMoSno
05-03-2020, 09:11 AM
...and I have my adblocker on, and can see it just fine.

Marathon Man
05-03-2020, 10:18 AM
According to the PDF provided directly by the Community District Governments as of April 29, 2020, there is no (as in, zero, none, zilch, nada) reference to any requirement of wearing masks, whether in or out of buildings, effective May 4, 2020.

Here's the PDF from the CDD: https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/PDFMeeting.aspx?id=20200429001301

There are lots of guidelines and rules about what you can and can't do, on that PDF. Wearing masks is not among them EXCEPT for the notice that masks, gloves, water, hand sanitizer, and equipment will -not- be provided.

I don't get the rec news, I don't get the Daily Sun, and whenever I try to follow a link to the Rec News section of the Daily Sun online I get a black PDF with no text.

Clothing is also required. And I'm pretty sure they mean that you can't just carry it.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-03-2020, 02:55 PM
Turn off your ad blocker and it will work. I had to do this to see it.

Thanks. It worked. No one else has suggested that, and I hadn't even considered it since I can see the Daily Sun online just fine - and other website PDF files - just not that PDF file.

So now I see that page claiming that masks are required for indoor and outdoor activities. It is still a present-tense thing, I don't know that they're going to require swimmers to wear masks covering their noses and mouths while swimming.

It ALSO says on the page before that, that people need to wash their hands every 20 minutes, and wear masks, AND cover their mouth with a tissue when they sneeze or cough.

Apply some logic and ask the logical question here: how can I cover my mouth with a tissue in order to sneeze or cough, while I have a mask covering my face? And how can I wash my hands every 20 minutes while I'm playing golf, and the water coolers are closed down? Answer: I can't. Therefore - these "rules" are flawed, and poorly thought out. Does that mean I shouldn't wear a mask? No. It means someone screwed up when they came up with the rules, and they need to revisit with a more logical approach.

My take on it: if I'm involved in outdoor activities that make it difficult to social distance, then I should wear a mask while engaging in that outdoor activity.

AND

I should carry tissues with me so that if I feel the need to sneeze or cough, I can cover my mouth, without having to wear a mask the entire time, in a situation when I'm not having any trouble social distancing.

AND

if I'm engaged in an activity that has a rest room nearby (such as the horseshoe court next to the Paradise postal station), I should expect to wash my hands every few turns. If I'm not in close proximity to a bathroom, I should bring hand sanitizer and use that instead.

Golfers shouldn't have to wear masks as long as they are maintaining a respectful distance from each other. Swimmers shouldn't be wearing masks, unless they're snorkel masks (which do cover their eyes, nose, and mouth).

pjwjpb
05-03-2020, 03:20 PM
Good luck with that! LOL

fishon
05-03-2020, 05:32 PM
Please be very careful.
Corona virus is sneaky.
It knows the difference between a grocery store with 200 patrons and a hair salon with 10.

Spike380
05-03-2020, 06:12 PM
No clubs before June 1st.

Spike380
05-03-2020, 06:13 PM
Just what we seniors need.......instructions and direction clear as mud.😩
I have 2 classes and we were told nothing before June 1st for my card class and art class.

coffeebean
05-04-2020, 06:14 AM
As I said twice already: when I click on that link, I get a black PDF file with nothing on it.

The link works for me.

coffeebean
05-04-2020, 06:15 AM
Turn off your ad blocker and it will work. I had to do this to see it.

I have an ad blocker and I still can open the link.

coffeebean
05-04-2020, 06:22 AM
................ Swimmers shouldn't be wearing masks, unless they're snorkel masks (which do cover their eyes, nose, and mouth).

Snorkels have the swimmer inhaling and exhaling through a "tube" into the air above the water so there is no difference between wearing a snorkel and not wearing a snorkel. I honestly don't think TPTB think of a snorkel as a mask that they refer to in their social distancing guide lines.

biker1
05-04-2020, 06:32 AM
I am not sure what you are reading but the Rec guide from April 30th (that outlines the reopening of the amenities) says to wash your hands frequently, for 20 seconds. I have not seen anything that suggests you wash your hands every 20 minutes.

Thanks. It worked. No one else has suggested that, and I hadn't even considered it since I can see the Daily Sun online just fine - and other website PDF files - just not that PDF file.

So now I see that page claiming that masks are required for indoor and outdoor activities. It is still a present-tense thing, I don't know that they're going to require swimmers to wear masks covering their noses and mouths while swimming.

It ALSO says on the page before that, that people need to wash their hands every 20 minutes, and wear masks, AND cover their mouth with a tissue when they sneeze or cough.

Apply some logic and ask the logical question here: how can I cover my mouth with a tissue in order to sneeze or cough, while I have a mask covering my face? And how can I wash my hands every 20 minutes while I'm playing golf, and the water coolers are closed down? Answer: I can't. Therefore - these "rules" are flawed, and poorly thought out. Does that mean I shouldn't wear a mask? No. It means someone screwed up when they came up with the rules, and they need to revisit with a more logical approach.

My take on it: if I'm involved in outdoor activities that make it difficult to social distance, then I should wear a mask while engaging in that outdoor activity.

AND

I should carry tissues with me so that if I feel the need to sneeze or cough, I can cover my mouth, without having to wear a mask the entire time, in a situation when I'm not having any trouble social distancing.

AND

if I'm engaged in an activity that has a rest room nearby (such as the horseshoe court next to the Paradise postal station), I should expect to wash my hands every few turns. If I'm not in close proximity to a bathroom, I should bring hand sanitizer and use that instead.

Golfers shouldn't have to wear masks as long as they are maintaining a respectful distance from each other. Swimmers shouldn't be wearing masks, unless they're snorkel masks (which do cover their eyes, nose, and mouth).

graciegirl
05-04-2020, 06:38 AM
Please be very careful.
Corona virus is sneaky.
It knows the difference between a grocery store with 200 patrons and a hair salon with 10.

Stop. Think.

In the grocery we aren't up close and personal, not even at check out as we are when someone is cutting our hair. OR as close as a waitress who is handling the plate with our food on it. Did she wash her hands after removing the plates from the table that is six feet from us?

Friends went to Orange Blossom on March 17th, ten of them. The waitress was sniffing. Six in the group became sick. My friends, one was in intensive care for ten days and the other was so sick at home that a friend moved in with her. She became so dehydrated at one point she had to be taken by ambulance to emergency for six hours to be rehydrated. They are younger than us. They are very active.

I wish we knew more about the cases of people who have contracted it here in The Villages. This is the only instance of anyone I know who has contracted the virus.

Does anyone else know anyone personally? Obviously I can't vouch it was Covid-19. I certainly do not fault the waitress or the restaurant. I do believe that it very well have been Covid-19, but I am just grateful our friends are slowly recovering.

We all have been told that it spreads very easily from one human to another. We all know that the older we are the more deadly it is. These two are at least ten years younger than us.

I just heard this from them yesterday. I got a call from them. This is someone we know well and have known for several years. They are friends who have visited our home many times and we have dined with them and we have visited their home. I trust that what they told me is truthful. They live in the older section of The Villages.

golfing eagles
05-04-2020, 06:42 AM
Stop. Think.

In the grocery we aren't up close and personal, not even at check out as we are when someone is cutting our hair. OR as close as a waitress who is handling the plate with our food on it. Did she wash her hands after removing the plates from the table that is six feet from us?

Friends went to Orange Blossom on March 17th, ten of them. The waitress was sniffing. Six in the group became sick. My friends, one was in intensive care for ten days and the other was so sick at home that a friend moved in with her. She became so dehydrated at one point she had to be taken by ambulance to emergency for six hours to be rehydrated. They are younger than us. They are very active.

I wish we knew more about the cases of people who have contracted it here in The Villages. This is the only instance of anyone I know who has contracted the virus.

Does anyone else know anyone personally? Obviously I can't vouch it was Covid-19. I certainly do not fault the waitress or the restaurant. I do believe that it very well have been Covid-19, but I am just grateful our friends are slowly recovering.

We all have been told that it spreads very easily from one human to another. We all know that the older we are the more deadly it is. These two are at least ten years younger than us.

I do. The waitress should have called in sick if she had the "sniffles", and the management should have sent her home when they noticed her.

graciegirl
05-04-2020, 06:45 AM
I do. The waitress should have called in sick if she had the "sniffles", and the management should have sent her home when they noticed her.

This was March 17th. I can't remember at what phase of warnings we were at locally or nationally. I know our daughter and granddaughter were visiting us a few days before, and that very shortly after their visit is when the whole thing became evident to be a real crisis. My daughter and granddaughter who are usually very wise indeed, sort of dismissed my concern. I was very nervous when they flew back to New York City and to London early in March.

It took awhile before the warnings and the airline shut downs and the confusion about what to do. I remember that our granddaughter was going to fly to the Keys with a friend about a week after she visited here and decided to cancel it. Does anyone remember exactly when the quarantine began here?

golfing eagles
05-04-2020, 06:47 AM
This was March 17th. I can't remember at what phase of warnings we were at locally or nationally.

I think that was just about the time that various restrictions were coming out. However, the virus was a known entity and common sense should have applied

MichiganKid
05-04-2020, 10:01 PM
Please be very careful.
Corona virus is sneaky.
It knows the difference between a grocery store with 200 patrons and a hair salon with 10.

Sad, that our society is this ignorant. Your right, we can go into a store or retail business with sixty or more people but dont be outdoors on a pickleball court with four people occupying a 20x44 foot area, or playing golf.. look at the stats folks, more people are dying from COPD, influenza/pneumonia. The numbers there showing you are very false. You will see how political this virus was in the future news...