Masks

[patfla06]

I went to get my mail today and NO ONE was wearing a mask.

NOTHING has changed!!!!

The virus is still with us it didn’t disappear. :ohdear:

[Marvic 1]

I went to get my mail today and NO ONE was wearing a mask.

NOTHING has changed!!!!

The virus is still with us it didn’t disappear. :ohdear:

No mask but I'm sure they had their dogs with them.....

[golfing eagles]

I went to get my mail today and NO ONE was wearing a mask.

NOTHING has changed!!!!

The virus is still with us it didn’t disappear. :ohdear:

That's right---nothing has changed

The CDC guidance that states you should wear a mask IF unable to socially distance yourself 6 feet has not changed

[kansasr]

I have no trouble maintaining a social distance of 6 feet when getting my mail....if you do, then you should wear a mask.

[coffeebean]

I went to get my mail today and NO ONE was wearing a mask.

NOTHING has changed!!!!

The virus is still with us it didn’t disappear. :ohdear:

Are we supposed to be wearing a mask when outside? I didn't think so. Let me rephrase that.....I don't plan to wear a mask when outside and can easily social distance properly. Getting our mail is a quick interaction with our mail box. It is very easy to keep the proper social distancing if and when we happen to run into someone we know.

[thelegges]

Ya know if don’t go during the OMG the mail is here time slot, then it’s pretty much empty. If ours is picked up once a week we are doing good. Mask doesn’t protect you.

[CFrance]

Ya know if don’t go during the OMG the mail is here time slot, then it’s pretty much empty. If ours is picked up once a week we are doing good. Mask doesn’t protect you.
Exactly. And less chance of getting sideswiped, backed into, or run over as well.

[Leadbone1]

I went to get my mail today and NO ONE was wearing a mask.

NOTHING has changed!!!!

The virus is still with us it didn’t disappear. :ohdear:

A lot has changed. People now know that this virus is not as deadly as once thought based on the growing numbers of people that had it and had none, or very few symptoms. Also, you can’t stay locked up forever or wear a mask forever. Have recently heard doctors say that these masks are mostly psychological and do very little to stop any virus.
Most of us want to get back to living and we’ll take our chances just like we have done with any other virus. That 5% that have severe underlying conditions obviously may choose to continue avoiding people?

[Rwirish]

The mask police.

Mask are recommended not required.

[ficoguy]

The death rate in Lake, Marion and Sumter counties from the virus is 32 out of a population of 854.944. This is a death rate of 3.74 out of 100,000. That's TO DATE....the daily rate of deaths for the same 3 counties is 12 per 100,000 with 8.2 per 100,000 coming from accidents - auto, falling off your rocker, etc. And I think people are starting to think the government has overplayed its hand a bit - especially when you see the guv of NY sending back the Navy ship Comfort that sat there with 1,000 beds and only used 20....or the field hospital in the Javits center that was outfitted for 1,000 beds and only used 90...and the taxpayers of the nation are taking in that spending load, because NY is soooooooo important

[Catgirl]

People don't realize masks protect other people. They don't really care if you die.

[davem4616]

"teacher, teacher...Johnny's not wearing his mask!" Stop with this childish nonsense already We shouldn't be expected to wear masks 24x7

as someone else has already added to this post, if you avoid picking up your mail between 2:30 and 5pm you pretty much have the place all to yourself....and (huge plus) you aren't putting yourself in danger of being run over or backed into

it's really pretty easy to 'dodge' 2 or 3 people and respect the 6' social distancing objective at the mail boxes

[fredandtrish1]

I wear my old Lone Ranger mask. Had it for 68 years in my drawer. People move 10', 15' or sometimes 20' away from me when they see me coming.

[ismatta]

Are we supposed to be wearing a mask when outside? I didn't think so. Let me rephrase that.....I don't plan to wear a mask when outside and can easily social distance properly. Getting our mail is a quick interaction with our mail box. It is very easy to keep the proper social distancing if and when we happen to run into someone we know.
A quick interaction? Is that like the 5 second rule. You should be wearing a mask.

[TimeForChange]

Six feet is easy to maintain especially with my dog. The leash is six feet and that is the rule in TV.

[rlcooper70]

The mask is primarily to remind you not to touch your face and to protect others from you sneezing. If you are outside getting the mail the likelihood of someone sneezing on you is quite minimal.

Are you aware that we have a population of about 130,000 and very few cases? Are you aware of how well we are doing here in TV?

[Bay Kid]

Glad you feel safe wearing your mask. If you are so worried about what everyone else is doing it might be better to stay away from people.

[rhand48]

I approve these stolen thoughts:

1. I don't wear a facemask because...It's the perfect breeding ground for bacteria that can end up in your mouth and down into your lungs (hello upper respiratory infection anyone!?)

2. I don't wear gloves because... I have enough brains to realize I'd have to change gloves everytime I touched something else, otherwise it's just cross contamination with the same gloves...

3. I do social distancing because...I respect others personal space, but not because I'm afraid of my fellow Americans or neighbors. In fact, I'll happily hug someone right now in public if it was a mutual feeling. Hugging also releases endorphins which uplifts mood and relieves stress...there's a bunch of stress going on right now.

4. I don't get the flu vaccine because...(in regards to coronavirus) I don't want to increase my chances of getting an upper respiratory illness including 4 strains of coronavirus by 36%.

5. I won't get tested even if I show symptoms because...I already know they will label it Covid19 without an actual test and I'll be added to the jaded numbers increasing panic over something I may or may not truly have...plus they'll just tell me to go home and walk it off...but rest assured I have brains enough to stay home and away from people when sick or have symptoms of being sick.

6. I wash my hands with soap and water because...well, that's just common sense.

7. I WILL NOT GET THE COVID19 VACCINE! The gov has never mandated a vaccine and I'll be damned if they make me put something in my body, that was created in less than 2 weeks of this "outbreak". I'm not a sheep and will not be manipulated by the gov into thinking they have our best interest.

8. I will not live in fear. If you want to stay in your house and never go out because you are "doing the right thing" that's fine, that's you. But I'm not going to let the media scare me into mass panic. That's what they want, to shut this country down and they’re doing it right in front of your face. I will continue to go out and support locals as much as possible. I will not live in fear!
Start researching...you have all the time in the world. Turn off the news and start researching from sources that have NO financial gain or conflict of interest...you will learn quite a bit, and you will realize you've been lied to and manipulated.

*copied and pasted, feel free to do the same!*

[CarolSells]

I approve these stolen thoughts:

1. I don't wear a facemask because...It's the perfect breeding ground for bacteria that can end up in your mouth and down into your lungs (hello upper respiratory infection anyone!?)

2. I don't wear gloves because... I have enough brains to realize I'd have to change gloves everytime I touched something else, otherwise it's just cross contamination with the same gloves...

3. I do social distancing because...I respect others personal space, but not because I'm afraid of my fellow Americans or neighbors. In fact, I'll happily hug someone right now in public if it was a mutual feeling. Hugging also releases endorphins which uplifts mood and relieves stress...there's a bunch of stress going on right now.

4. I don't get the flu vaccine because...(in regards to coronavirus) I don't want to increase my chances of getting an upper respiratory illness including 4 strains of coronavirus by 36%.

5. I won't get tested even if I show symptoms because...I already know they will label it Covid19 without an actual test and I'll be added to the jaded numbers increasing panic over something I may or may not truly have...plus they'll just tell me to go home and walk it off...but rest assured I have brains enough to stay home and away from people when sick or have symptoms of being sick.

6. I wash my hands with soap and water because...well, that's just common sense.

7. I WILL NOT GET THE COVID19 VACCINE! The gov has never mandated a vaccine and I'll be damned if they make me put something in my body, that was created in less than 2 weeks of this "outbreak". I'm not a sheep and will not be manipulated by the gov into thinking they have our best interest.

8. I will not live in fear. If you want to stay in your house and never go out because you are "doing the right thing" that's fine, that's you. But I'm not going to let the media scare me into mass panic. That's what they want, to shut this country down and they’re doing it right in front of your face. I will continue to go out and support locals as much as possible. I will not live in fear!
Start researching...you have all the time in the world. Turn off the news and start researching from sources that have NO financial gain or conflict of interest...you will learn quite a bit, and you will realize you've been lied to and manipulated.

*copied and pasted, feel free to do the same!*

Thank you! The best post; I agree with all of these.

[Edcarney]

I went to Aldi’s yesterday and not one person in there was wearing a N95 mask including the employees. Unless you are wearing a properly fitted N95 mask or better you are doing yourself and others little good if any. It’s time to get back to living our lives.

[Daxdog]

Quick, call the cops, someone just walked by my mailbox not wearing a mask. Get a life people!

[speedo8357]

I approve these stolen thoughts:

1. I don't wear a facemask because...It's the perfect breeding ground for bacteria that can end up in your mouth and down into your lungs (hello upper respiratory infection anyone!?)

2. I don't wear gloves because... I have enough brains to realize I'd have to change gloves everytime I touched something else, otherwise it's just cross contamination with the same gloves...

3. I do social distancing because...I respect others personal space, but not because I'm afraid of my fellow Americans or neighbors. In fact, I'll happily hug someone right now in public if it was a mutual feeling. Hugging also releases endorphins which uplifts mood and relieves stress...there's a bunch of stress going on right now.

4. I don't get the flu vaccine because...(in regards to coronavirus) I don't want to increase my chances of getting an upper respiratory illness including 4 strains of coronavirus by 36%.

5. I won't get tested even if I show symptoms because...I already know they will label it Covid19 without an actual test and I'll be added to the jaded numbers increasing panic over something I may or may not truly have...plus they'll just tell me to go home and walk it off...but rest assured I have brains enough to stay home and away from people when sick or have symptoms of being sick.

6. I wash my hands with soap and water because...well, that's just common sense.

7. I WILL NOT GET THE COVID19 VACCINE! The gov has never mandated a vaccine and I'll be damned if they make me put something in my body, that was created in less than 2 weeks of this "outbreak". I'm not a sheep and will not be manipulated by the gov into thinking they have our best interest.

8. I will not live in fear. If you want to stay in your house and never go out because you are "doing the right thing" that's fine, that's you. But I'm not going to let the media scare me into mass panic. That's what they want, to shut this country down and they’re doing it right in front of your face. I will continue to go out and support locals as much as possible. I will not live in fear!
Start researching...you have all the time in the world. Turn off the news and start researching from sources that have NO financial gain or conflict of interest...you will learn quite a bit, and you will realize you've been lied to and manipulated.

*copied and pasted, feel free to do the same!*

DITTO! Well said. Why would anyone believe “the news” anymore. We’ve been lied to for years. I don’t think they are telling us the truth now. When the dust finally settles on this virus, it will prove to be much less deadly than many other outbreaks. And we will wonder why we shut our economy down.

[Love2Swim]

I approve these stolen thoughts:

1. I don't wear a facemask because...It's the perfect breeding ground for bacteria that can end up in your mouth and down into your lungs (hello upper respiratory infection anyone!?)

2. I don't wear gloves because... I have enough brains to realize I'd have to change gloves everytime I touched something else, otherwise it's just cross contamination with the same gloves...

3. I do social distancing because...I respect others personal space, but not because I'm afraid of my fellow Americans or neighbors. In fact, I'll happily hug someone right now in public if it was a mutual feeling. Hugging also releases endorphins which uplifts mood and relieves stress...there's a bunch of stress going on right now.

4. I don't get the flu vaccine because...(in regards to coronavirus) I don't want to increase my chances of getting an upper respiratory illness including 4 strains of coronavirus by 36%.

5. I won't get tested even if I show symptoms because...I already know they will label it Covid19 without an actual test and I'll be added to the jaded numbers increasing panic over something I may or may not truly have...plus they'll just tell me to go home and walk it off...but rest assured I have brains enough to stay home and away from people when sick or have symptoms of being sick.

6. I wash my hands with soap and water because...well, that's just common sense.

7. I WILL NOT GET THE COVID19 VACCINE! The gov has never mandated a vaccine and I'll be damned if they make me put something in my body, that was created in less than 2 weeks of this "outbreak". I'm not a sheep and will not be manipulated by the gov into thinking they have our best interest.

8. I will not live in fear. If you want to stay in your house and never go out because you are "doing the right thing" that's fine, that's you. But I'm not going to let the media scare me into mass panic. That's what they want, to shut this country down and they’re doing it right in front of your face. I will continue to go out and support locals as much as possible. I will not live in fear!
Start researching...you have all the time in the world. Turn off the news and start researching from sources that have NO financial gain or conflict of interest...you will learn quite a bit, and you will realize you've been lied to and manipulated.

*copied and pasted, feel free to do the same!*

... :ohdear:

[WendyS]

I went to get my mail today and NO ONE was wearing a mask.

NOTHING has changed!!!!

The virus is still with us it didn’t disappear. :ohdear:
Cases are still rising

[Singerlady]

A lot has changed. People now know that this virus is not as deadly as once thought based on the growing numbers of people that had it and had none, or very few symptoms. Also, you can’t stay locked up forever or wear a mask forever. Have recently heard doctors say that these masks are mostly psychological and do very little to stop any virus.
Most of us want to get back to living and we’ll take our chances just like we have done with any other virus. That 5% that have severe underlying conditions obviously may choose to continue avoiding people?

What? It is deadly! And if all would wear masks outside...no matter where...we’d be a lot better off and safer until we can get the vaccine. Why not be extra cautious and care about others?

[Astron]

I went to get my mail today and NO ONE was wearing a mask.

NOTHING has changed!!!!

The virus is still with us it didn’t disappear. :ohdear:

Mask wearing is not about you. It is to protect others. Healthline.com explained it well. “As confirmed cases of COVID-19 continue to rise, the CDC is recommending that everyone wear a cloth mask when they go out in public.
Experts say the homemade masks won’t protect someone from getting sick, but they can help prevent the spread of the disease by those with the virus.“
The mask is to reduce the spread of the virus from you, even if you have it but have no symptoms. You wear a mask in consideration of others. It shows that you care about the safety of others.

[coffeebean]

A quick interaction? Is that like the 5 second rule. You should be wearing a mask.
Are you saying people should be wearing masks OUTSIDE when social distancing is easy to maintain? I have not heard that at all. I will NEVER wear a mask outside when I can easily social distance. I do, however, always wear a mask while indoors in a public space.

Regarding the "quick interaction"....The experts have said you need to have sustained close interaction to contract the virus or have someone cough or sneeze directly in your face. If you want to think of my "close interaction" statement as a "5 second rule", you are correct.

[Jacob85]

I agree it’s still with us but as long as you try to stay 6 feet away from someone I heard you don’t have to wear a mask outside.

[coffeebean]

The mask is primarily to remind you not to touch your face and to protect others from you sneezing. If you are outside getting the mail the likelihood of someone sneezing on you is quite minimal.

Are you aware that we have a population of about 130,000 and very few cases? Are you aware of how well we are doing here in TV?

Unless you remove your mask so you can sneeze into your hand. On this forum, I read about a woman who did just that recently in a local Publix. YIKES! How clueless was that woman? Where was her common sense?

[ts12755]

Only wear masks if you want to live in fear. The Spanish Flu died off in just over a year because the entire country was exposed to it and you either died or developed immunity. We need to do that here we can't drag this out for years and years living in fear. Yes 2.3 million will die but that's only .00655 of our population. And one good thing about the Chinese coronavirus it mainly kills the sick and the old where the Spanish flu killed people of all ages.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Somewhere between hugs with strangers and hazmat suits is where you'll find me

[Leadbone1]

What? It is deadly! And if all would wear masks outside...no matter where...we’d be a lot better off and safer until we can get the vaccine. Why not be extra cautious and care about others?

Nope...

[ts12755]

I saw a group of five standing about 2 feet from each other talkin and talkin all wearing masks if you can't maintain six feet at the post office then wear your mask. You shouldn't even be standing less than 6 feet away when you are wearing a mask.

[merrymini]

I do not see why you would have to wear a mask outdoors where you are usually pretty far away from others. I have seen people wearing masks under their chin, under their nose, totally ineffective and the cloth masks are pretty much useless since viruses are so small they can enter through the holes of a cotton mask easily. So, if you believe that you can eliminate 100 per cent of the risk, you are fooling yourself.

[Leadbone1]

Cases are still rising

They absolutely are not. What the heck are you watching?

[Janet silverston]

I wonder if people simply dont know where to get them. Please contact me at janet1769@gmail.com if you need them. I have made hundreds for very happy customers. Mine are comfortable, colorful and machine washable. They are a nominal cost of $3.00 each.
STAY WEL!

[SacDQ]

We should be working a plan to collect all the unused mask and making a memorial sculpture to honor all the medical personnel who put their life’s on the line for us.

[HelenLCSW]

A lot has changed. People now know that this virus is not as deadly as once thought based on the growing numbers of people that had it and had none, or very few symptoms. Also, you can’t stay locked up forever or wear a mask forever. Have recently heard doctors say that these masks are mostly psychological and do very little to stop any virus.
Most of us want to get back to living and we’ll take our chances just like we have done with any other virus. That 5% that have severe underlying conditions obviously may choose to continue avoiding people?

I don’t know where you get your information—but every infectious disease doctor on every TV channel, including FOX has said that this virus is deadly, confusing and dangerous. They have said that it is nothing like any virus we have seen before.

[Leadbone1]

I saw a group of five standing about 2 feet from each other talkin and talkin all wearing masks if you can't maintain six feet at the post office then wear your mask. You shouldn't even be standing less than 6 feet away when you are wearing a mask.

Wow, you should’ve called the mask police ! Stop trying to control other people

[Leadbone1]

I don’t know where you get your information—but every infectious disease doctor on every TV channel, including FOX has said that this virus is deadly, confusing and dangerous. They have said that it is nothing like any virus we have seen before.

It’s deadly primarily to a subset of adults 70 and over that have underlying conditions. To 95% of us it may be less deadly than the flu. If you choose to remain paranoid then understand that it is your choice? But you don’t get to control other people!

[Singerlady]

Nope...

I hope I never meet you. Let me know how this whole thing works out for you down the line.

[Singerlady]

It’s deadly primarily to a subset of adults 70 and over that have underlying conditions. To 95% of us it may be less deadly than the flu. If you choose to remain paranoid then understand that it is your choice? But you don’t get to control other people!

...oh and paranoid is not equivalent to cautious and SMART!

[Stu from NYC]

I go for a walk before 8 am to get my mail and area is pretty empty. Why in the world do I need a mask if I always stay 6 ft away from anyone walking by?

I am amazed to see people driving by in cars or golf carts wearing masks.

[donassaid]

Maybe we should give them 40 lashes? Or maybe a medal for not being a sheeple that believes everything our government says. A number of scientists and doctors say that wearing a mask inhibits your immune system as well as diminishes "herd immunity". This has been a "manufactured crisis" and is nothing more than a trial run to see how much opposition there would be for total government control. Apparently not much.

[gatorbill1]

A lot has changed. People now know that this virus is not as deadly as once thought based on the growing numbers of people that had it and had none, or very few symptoms. Also, you can’t stay locked up forever or wear a mask forever. Have recently heard doctors say that these masks are mostly psychological and do very little to stop any virus.
Most of us want to get back to living and we’ll take our chances just like we have done with any other virus. That 5% that have severe underlying conditions obviously may choose to continue avoiding people?

5% ?? where do you live. The Villages has more like 80-90%. Stay away from me please.

[Biggles]

Thank you! The best post; I agree with all of these.

AGREE!: bigbow:

[Manhoopty]

Maybe they should call the Lone Ranger and have Him deliver their mail....

[Aloha1]

5% ?? where do you live. The Villages has more like 80-90%. Stay away from me please.

80-90% of Villagers DO NOT have underlying conditions. Where did you get that from? CNN?

[Manhoopty]

And STILL we can’t get this damn virus up to a one percent death rate,,,! Dammit, That’s gotta Really make people mad.....

[Squid48]

Unbelievable! Sounds like Nazis during WWII. Just kill the weak.” You must be so proud.

[Golfer in Sanibel]

Please explain to me why I need a mask to pick up my mail when I am never within 15' of another.

[Marylynn]

I think wearing a mask makes others feel comfortable whether you’re six feet away or twenty feet away. Comfortable that others are being considerate.

[Pleegasser]

Thank you for some common sense, very uncommon these days with all the fear-mongering media coverage. For a little perspective, there have been 1200-1300 deaths in Florida with Sars Cov2 in a population of roughly 22 million souls

[rhand48]

The image of a lemming... just sayin

[BamaBoy451]

Please explain to me why I need a mask to pick up my mail when I am never within 15' of another.

The ones that wear a mask in their car or cart are the same ones that wear a condom to bed, alone. :1rotfl:

[bilcon]

You have been unmasked!

[cdecco]

I heard that they get $17,000 for each Covid-19 patient and only $6,000 for a flu patient. Now let's do the math from New York. No one is dying from much of anything, except Covid-19. The regular flu deaths are practically non-existent. Do you think the numbers are true for the Covid-19 death rate?

[Joe C.]

If I'm doing some fiberglass insulation, I wear a mask. If I'm in a dusty environment, I wear a mask. I do it to PROTECT MYSELF from inhaling unwanted particles. I don't wear it to protect you.

During this "pandemic" the reasoning is the same. And I don't go crazy if someone isn't wearing one. If I want protection, I'll go get one. Until then, I won't wear one.

90% of the people are over-reacting.
I used to think that the older we got, the wiser we got.
Reading TOTV, dispels this fantasy.

[CarolSells]

I heard that they get $17,000 for each Covid-19 patient and only $6,000 for a flu patient. Now let's do the math from New York. No one is dying from much of anything, except Covid-19. The regular flu deaths are practically non-existent. Do you think the numbers are true for the Covid-19 death rate?

Yesterday the CDC adjusted down the number of Covid-19 deaths from 64,283 to 37,308. In the US. They took out all of the deaths from other causes.
I’ve been saying for weeks that the numbers were cooked.

[coffeebean]

Wearing home made masks are recommended because they do provide a degree of protection from droplets which are spewed into the air when someone speaks, sneezes or coughs.

My mask protects you and your mask protects me. Here is a quick video which demonstrates why wearing home made masks are protective.

How a mask blocks droplets - YouTube (https://youtu.be/F0RcH9DfuyE)

[coffeebean]

Somewhere between hugs with strangers and hazmat suits is where you'll find me

Thank you for the chuckle.:)

[coffeebean]

Nope...

Agree. I will not be wearing a mask outside. Sorry folks. That is over kill and not necessary when maintaining social distancing.

I will continue to wear a mask indoors in public spaces and will do my best to maintain proper social distancing.

[Astron]

That's right---nothing has changed

The CDC guidance that states you should wear a mask IF unable to socially distance yourself 6 feet has not changed
The CDC guidelines “recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies), especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.”
You left out the second part: “CDC also advises the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others.”

[coffeebean]

I do not see why you would have to wear a mask outdoors where you are usually pretty far away from others. I have seen people wearing masks under their chin, under their nose, totally ineffective and the cloth masks are pretty much useless since viruses are so small they can enter through the holes of a cotton mask easily. So, if you believe that you can eliminate 100 per cent of the risk, you are fooling yourself.

Keep in mind, and this has been said many many times; the mask is not to protect the wearer. The mask is to protect others around the wearer of the mask. Now that I've reminded everyone of this fact, keep this in mind..........

Yes, the virus is small enough to penetrate the holes of a cotton fabric or any fabric mask for that matter. Having said that, the virus does not travel by itself. The virus needs a mode of transmission when traveling through the air. That mode of transmission is droplets which come out as a fine mist when a person speaks. The droplets also are spewed with more propulsion into the air when a person coughs or sneezes. Home made face masks have been proven to block the spray of droplets. Think about this.....why do we sneeze into a tissue? Because the tissue blocks the spray of droplets that come out of the sneezers mouth and nose.

Masks made out of fabric and filters such as paper towels and coffee filters, for example, stop those droplets from spraying onto the air and into someone's mouth and nose. Unfortunately, eyes are still vulnerable because the general public does not wear face shields. Eye glasses help with the droplet spray to the eyes with some degree but are not as effective as a face shield.

Bottom line is......your mask protects me and my mask protects you. My mask does not protect me but I surely hope you are wearing a mask so I'm protected too. You can be an asymptomatic carrier of this virus and not even know you are infecting others if you do not wear a mask.

[coffeebean]

I hope I never meet you. Let me know how this whole thing works out for you down the line.

The person you responded to with this response said he/she would not wear a mask OUTSIDE. How many people have you seen wearing masks OUTSIDE? I have seen as many as I can count on two fingers. I don't get it.

Now.....wearing a mask indoors in public spaces is a whole other ballgame.

[coffeebean]

I think wearing a mask makes others feel comfortable whether you’re six feet away or twenty feet away. Comfortable that others are being considerate.

Bull honkey. I'm still not ever going to wear a mask OUTDOORS when I can easily social distance safely.

[coffeebean]

If I'm doing some fiberglass insulation, I wear a mask. If I'm in a dusty environment, I wear a mask. I do it to PROTECT MYSELF from inhaling unwanted particles. I don't wear it to protect you.

During this "pandemic" the reasoning is the same. And I don't go crazy if someone isn't wearing one. If I want protection, I'll go get one. Until then, I won't wear one.

90% of the people are over-reacting.
I used to think that the older we got, the wiser we got.
Reading TOTV, dispels this fantasy.
Tell that to our health care workers who are on the front lines battling this enemy while we sit safely at home banging away on our computers. Health care workers are dying for us. Where have you been?

[Grumpyoldvillager]

I hold my breath when I go for the mail.

[Marathon Man]

Agree. I will not be wearing a mask outside. Sorry folks. That is over kill and not necessary when maintaining social distancing.

I will continue to wear a mask indoors in public spaces and will do my best to maintain proper social distancing.

I agree completely with this.

I also where gloves in a store. I understand that this does nothing to protect me, and it can just as easily transport virus as a bare hand. However, if I take them off before getting in the car, my steering wheel stays clean. Not much, but it makes me feel better.

[coffeebean]

Yesterday the CDC adjusted down the number of Covid-19 deaths from 64,283 to 37,308. In the US. They took out all of the deaths from other causes.
I’ve been saying for weeks that the numbers were cooked.

Are the deaths the CDC took out of the numbers patients who died of their underlying conditions but also had Covid?

For example.....the person who died from a heart attack with a history of CAD but was also positive for Covid. Is that correct?

[Baywayric]

:agree::BigApplause:I approve these stolen thoughts:

1. I don't wear a facemask because...It's the perfect breeding ground for bacteria that can end up in your mouth and down into your lungs (hello upper respiratory infection anyone!?)

2. I don't wear gloves because... I have enough brains to realize I'd have to change gloves everytime I touched something else, otherwise it's just cross contamination with the same gloves...

3. I do social distancing because...I respect others personal space, but not because I'm afraid of my fellow Americans or neighbors. In fact, I'll happily hug someone right now in public if it was a mutual feeling. Hugging also releases endorphins which uplifts mood and relieves stress...there's a bunch of stress going on right now.

4. I don't get the flu vaccine because...(in regards to coronavirus) I don't want to increase my chances of getting an upper respiratory illness including 4 strains of coronavirus by 36%.

5. I won't get tested even if I show symptoms because...I already know they will label it Covid19 without an actual test and I'll be added to the jaded numbers increasing panic over something I may or may not truly have...plus they'll just tell me to go home and walk it off...but rest assured I have brains enough to stay home and away from people when sick or have symptoms of being sick.

6. I wash my hands with soap and water because...well, that's just common sense.

7. I WILL NOT GET THE COVID19 VACCINE! The gov has never mandated a vaccine and I'll be damned if they make me put something in my body, that was created in less than 2 weeks of this "outbreak". I'm not a sheep and will not be manipulated by the gov into thinking they have our best interest.

8. I will not live in fear. If you want to stay in your house and never go out because you are "doing the right thing" that's fine, that's you. But I'm not going to let the media scare me into mass panic. That's what they want, to shut this country down and they’re doing it right in front of your face. I will continue to go out and support locals as much as possible. I will not live in fear!
Start researching...you have all the time in the world. Turn off the news and start researching from sources that have NO financial gain or conflict of interest...you will learn quite a bit, and you will realize you've been lied to and manipulated.

*copied and pasted, feel free to do the same!*

[Jazzman]

And STILL we can’t get this damn virus up to a one percent death rate,,,! Dammit, That’s gotta Really make people mad.....
Only the members of the media who ignore the economic side where there are now over 27 million unemployed.

[Jazzman]

Are the deaths the CDC took out of the numbers patients who died of their underlying conditions but also had Covid?

For example.....the person who died from a heart attack with a history of CAD but was also positive for Covid. Is that correct?

There have been reports for a few weeks by physicians who were being directed to list all deaths in the hospital environment as covid deaths regardless of other existing conditions and regardless of the degree of intensity of the virus upon admisssion.

[NoMoSno]

Yesterday the CDC adjusted down the number of Covid-19 deaths from 64,283 to 37,308. In the US. They took out all of the deaths from other causes.
I’ve been saying for weeks that the numbers were cooked.
I agree.
I have a SIL who is a head nurse at a Detroit hospital.
Had a patient that came in with no C-19 symptoms, tested negative for C-19 but died from heart failure.
It was falsely listed as a C-19 death.

[msilagy]

Question - if a good mask - one that you cannot shine a light thru - doesn't protect people than why do healthcare workers wear them when treating Covid patients? to protect the Covid patients from getting Covid - or to protect the healthcare worker from getting Covid? C'mon people - common sense!!!!!

[Astoeckle]

It’s the great Florida outdoors. This virus survives for barely a minute in the UV of the bright Florida sun. No need for masks that offer little more protection than merely psychological.

[worahm]

Who is that mask man? Hi O Silver Away!!!!!!

[PugMom]

They absolutely are not. What the heck are you watching?

agreed. desantis went over the numbers in reality as opposed to what the WHO predicted. off by over 200,000

[cathy p]

I will think you are an idiot.

[Katieburr]

Oh my gosh. Are you one of those people who would rather be dead than have your “rights” violated? Or are you in the group who thinks it’s all a hoax? And what are you so angry about? Everyone here is capable of making their own decisions. Me? I just prefer to stay alive.

[graciegirl]

Oh my gosh. Are you one of those people who would rather be dead than have your “rights” violated? Or are you in the group who thinks it’s all a hoax? And what are you so angry about? Everyone here is capable of making their own decisions. Me? I just prefer to stay alive.

That's how it looks to me too, Katieburr. I used to sit on the right side of the aisle, but now I am standing in the middle.

[vermonster]

No mask but I'm sure they had their dogs with them.....

What's your point? I have seen many people walking with children, grandchildren, family not practicing social distancing among themselves nor respecting the space of other walkers. Dogs are not the problem; people are.

[coffeebean]

i agree.
I have a sil who is a head nurse at a detroit hospital.
Had a patient that came in with no c-19 symptoms, tested negative for c-19 but died from heart failure.
It was falsely listed as a c-19 death.

wow! I had no idea.

[Joyce952]

I agree, the virus is still with us and we need to take precautions against it and if wearing a mask will help we are all for it, but if no one is around when getting our mail I don't wear mine.

[Spike380]

Taking your chances IS your choice. But think about this-you are taking your chances; unknowingly you have the virus, but are non-symptomic; say you infect a neighbor and they get very sick; and then the spouse does; and the grandkids stopped by before the symptoms were prevelent and someone dies. You took YOUR chances. If you feel all the pain and suffering it COULD cause (ie taking a chance) are worth it, so be it. But wear a sign so we know you don't care

[fdpaq0580]

Question - if a good mask - one that you cannot shine a light thru - doesn't protect people than why do healthcare workers wear them when treating Covid patients? to protect the Covid patients from getting Covid - or to protect the healthcare worker from getting Covid? C'mon people - common sense!!!!!

I agree with you. Unfortunately, I have believed for quite a long time, and now I'm sure, "common sense" is a myth.

[Roto2004]

I see you’re a fellow Long Islander. We tend to be more cautious, but a mask isn’t required if you are 6 feet apart. I wear mine most times except when out for a walk

[WinnieHa]

I hope most people will continue to wear masks in confined spaces at the very least. It’s a very small price to pay to continue to implement all things we know might help slow the spread. If it can potentially protect people and help our economy rebound from this, I am all for it. I am not for “mask-shaming, but I might tend to give the “side-eye” to anyone not wearing a mask in the near-term. This is not a good time for arrogance because the full nature of the virus is still evolving.

[Barborv]

Some people just don't get it! It takes 1 to turn to 10 and so on. There have been so many deaths here in NY . It's real folks. Friends have lost loved ones. I don't leave my house . My husband only goes to the supermarket with a mask and gloves. And that's it. I can't understand why it is so difficult to wear a freakin mask. I'm sure when I come down , you will certainly want me wearing a mask! The sooner everyone does the right thing the sooner we will be rid of this virus! BE SMART

[WhiteToast]

... that so many TV neighbors are too selfish and self-absorbed to be bothered to wear a mask temporarily until this situation passes. Mask saves lives. I wear one to save you [bunch of old people with comorbidities ie: hypertension, heart disease, diabetes and so on]. Masks are not to protect you, they are to protect your neighbor. Not to wear one is rude and publicly espousing that you are either (mistakenly) vain or ignorant of the situation.
<shaking my head>.

Clean up your act!

[Katieburr]

Can anyone in The Villages tell me where I can get some face masks or know anyone who makes them? We ordered some almost 2 months ago and still haven’t gotten them. We are desperate. Every web site I have seen says they’re back ordered. We will pay for the masks and all mailing costs. We will be most grateful if you can help us and many thanks.

[kathyspear]

Can anyone in The Villages tell me where I can get some face masks or know anyone who makes them? We ordered some almost 2 months ago and still haven’t gotten them. We are desperate. Every web site I have seen says they’re back ordered. We will pay for the masks and all mailing costs. We will be most grateful if you can help us and many thanks.

From earlier in this thread:

Janet silverston
Junior Member

Join Date: Oct 2015

I wonder if people simply dont know where to get them. Please contact me at janet1769@gmail.com if you need them. I have made hundreds for very happy customers. Mine are comfortable, colorful and machine washable. They are a nominal cost of $3.00 each.
STAY WELL!


kathy

[tfa4755]

Agree

[ignatsue]

why does one need to "wear a mask" to check their mail boxes? It is not like there are hundreds of people there. It is in the open and not an enclosed room.

[golfing eagles]

why does one need to "wear a mask" to check their mail boxes? It is not like there are hundreds of people there. It is in the open and not an enclosed room.

answers: (you may pick more than one)

a) fear
b) paranoia
c) ignorance of the CDC guidelines
d) Look at me! I'm "protecting" everyone else
e) If you don't behave exactly as I do, you're selfish, entitled and an idiot

[17362]

Yes and I do the same to protect you- the person I don’t know.

My husband and I are immune compromised- so we have always been careful and wear masks now. But when we ride together I. Golf cart never being near anyone else - no we don’t wear masks. Same in car. It’s just us always.

When we go outside we stay a MINIMUM of 6ft from others.
We wash our hands and use sanitizer often. Including the bottles.
We still sterilize all things coming into our house. Including mail.
We have UV units inside our house for things that can’t be washed.
BTW. Your phones need it too.
And don’t forget the dryer for material things to sterilize.

Everything has a purpose and nothing is 100%. But everything is an aide so why not do the best you can!?! ... Including social distancing.


Agree. I will not be wearing a mask outside. Sorry folks. That is over kill and not necessary when maintaining social distancing.

I will continue to wear a mask indoors in public spaces and will do my best to maintain proper social distancing.

[carenrn1]

See many masks and disposable gloves plastic bottles, cig buttslittered in our streets and yards. Littering is a man made problem that we can control !
Stop littering people!

[EdFNJ]

why does one need to "wear a mask" to check their mail boxes? It is not like there are hundreds of people there. It is in the open and not an enclosed room.

answers: (you may pick more than one)

a) fear
b) paranoia
c) ignorance of the CDC guidelines
d) Look at me! I'm "protecting" everyone else
e) If you don't behave exactly as I do, you're selfish, entitled and an idiot

Or maybe because it just makes them feel better that they think rightly or wrongly they are doing something good? Maybe you should give those same choices to the families of 125000 who have died. Why does everything have to be turned around into a negative?

[billethkid]

Do the people who choose to not wear masks sorta think....screw y'all!!

[retiredguy123]

Can anyone in The Villages tell me where I can get some face masks or know anyone who makes them? We ordered some almost 2 months ago and still haven’t gotten them. We are desperate. Every web site I have seen says they’re back ordered. We will pay for the masks and all mailing costs. We will be most grateful if you can help us and many thanks.
They had plenty for sale at Sam's Club on Thursday. I also bought some at Walgreens last week. They are also available on Amazon for one or two day delivery. A box of 50 masks costs about 20 dollars.

[Madelaine Amee]

answers: (you may pick more than one)

a) fear
b) paranoia
c) ignorance of the CDC guidelines
d) Look at me! I'm "protecting" everyone else
e) If you don't behave exactly as I do, you're selfish, entitled and an idiot


Are you sure you are a retired Doctor and not the man who stayed at a Holiday Inn last night?

[ctmurray]

You are mistaken. "New York did use both facilities to treat COVID-19 patients — the Comfort treated around 182 patients, and the Javits Center treated around 1,100 patients" (NY Post). Turns out, due to the shut down, a mask order, and a requirement that every hospital increase bed capacity by 50% - they were not completely overwhelmed at their local hospitals.

[NoMoSno]

You are mistaken. "New York did use both facilities to treat COVID-19 patients — the Comfort treated around 182 patients, and the Javits Center treated around 1,100 patients" (NY Post). Turns out, due to the shut down, a mask order, and a requirement that every hospital increase bed capacity by 50% - they were not completely overwhelmed at their local hospitals.
It makes you wonder why thousands had to die because of an order to send nursing home patients back into infected nursing homes.

[billethkid]

It makes you wonder why thousands had to die because of an order to send nursing home patients back into infected nursing homes.

Nursing home patients were viewed differently......maybe they need to hold up a sign or start a movement....
"nursing home lives matter"!

[SonnyIV]

Followers of one source of information are doomed to repeat it over and over. Most who listen want only to see what is right for them. The ones who have died didn't make that choice either doing the Spanish Flu or now with COVID.

[SonnyIV]

Yeah and the entire world is in on this???

[VApeople]

Can anyone in The Villages tell me where I can get some face masks or know anyone who makes them?

We saw them for sale in Walgreens at Lake Deaton Plaza.

[coffeebean]

why does one need to "wear a mask" to check their mail boxes? It is not like there are hundreds of people there. It is in the open and not an enclosed room.

I'm a huge proponent of mask wearing INDOORS when social distancing is not guaranteed. I do NOT wear a mask outdoors when social distancing is very easily maintained.

Picking up mail at the mail center is one of those places I never wear a mask. If someone comes up behind in close proximity to me, I still don't worry because it is outdoors and the "interaction" lasts less than 15 seconds. That is hardly enough time to be worried about virus being transmitted to me or vice versa.

[coffeebean]

Yes and I do the same to protect you- the person I don’t know.

My husband and I are immune compromised- so we have always been careful and wear masks now. But when we ride together I. Golf cart never being near anyone else - no we don’t wear masks. Same in car. It’s just us always.

When we go outside we stay a MINIMUM of 6ft from others.
We wash our hands and use sanitizer often. Including the bottles.
We still sterilize all things coming into our house. Including mail.
We have UV units inside our house for things that can’t be washed.
BTW. Your phones need it too.
And don’t forget the dryer for material things to sterilize.

Everything has a purpose and nothing is 100%. But everything is an aide so why not do the best you can!?! ... Including social distancing.
Just to let you know..........There is a difference between sterilization and sanitizing.

[coffeebean]

Do the people who choose to not wear masks sorta think....screw y'all!!

This is what I think they think.........

I'm not going to be told what to do by anyone.

Our president does not endorse wearing a mask so I won't.

I'm healthy. I won't get sick.

Look at those silly people with masks on. I'm not going to look silly like that.

I wasn't put on this earth to save your ass.

[coffeebean]

They had plenty for sale at Sam's Club on Thursday. I also bought some at Walgreens last week. They are also available on Amazon for one or two day delivery. A box of 50 masks costs about 20 dollars.

Amazon has LOTS of different masks to choose from.

Just to let everyone know.......masks that have valves in them do nothing to prevent virus laden droplets from getting into the air. When you exhale into a mask with a valve, your droplets go right out the valve into your surroundings where other people might be.

Hubby had a doctor's visit a couple of weeks ago. One requirement was for all their patients to wear masks. NO MASKS WITH VALVES are allowed in that office. They are smart!

[coffeebean]

Nursing home patients were viewed differently......maybe they need to hold up a sign or start a movement....
"nursing home lives matter"!

Really? How were nursing home patients viewed?

[coffeebean]

We saw them for sale in Walgreens at Lake Deaton Plaza.

Masks are for sale in Staples. They are for sale in many stores now.

[John41]

why does one need to "wear a mask" to check their mail boxes? It is not like there are hundreds of people there. It is in the open and not an enclosed room.

because someone in a nearby mailbox less than 6 feet away could sneeze. unless no one is around me i will wear a mask getting mail.

[EdFNJ]

We had to drive to NJ for an event this weekend against my better judgement but since it was for our granddaughter my wife insisted we be there. 4 days driving for 1 day there. Hated it. Was supposed to fly but cancelled that. In any case, 100% of the the people in every store we were in fromStarbucks to wawa to Wendy’s to supermarkets and party stores 100% were wearing masks and no one was b1tching or fighting or yelling tyranny over it. That’s one of the main reasons they are keeping their infection rates so low. Sure, it’s the law there but those in charge weren’t worrying about whose feelings they were going to hurt. Our luck we’ll pick it up in “free” SC or NC or Georgia or back home where those in charge need to grow a pair of big ones and do what’s right.

Edit. Not word one anywhere in NJ about the quarantine rule for those from FL. Not a single electronic highway sign mentioned it. We’re only here less than 36 hrs so it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. Maybe it will be posted on the way back.

[billethkid]

Really? How were nursing home patients viewed?

Not a major voting block. I believe every politician weighs everything they say or do based solely on impact on their re-election.....

(my opinion).

[eyc234]

Only wear masks if you want to live in fear. The Spanish Flu died off in just over a year because the entire country was exposed to it and you either died or developed immunity. We need to do that here we can't drag this out for years and years living in fear. Yes 2.3 million will die but that's only .00655 of our population. And one good thing about the Chinese coronavirus it mainly kills the sick and the old where the Spanish flu killed people of all ages.

So you are volunteering to go into the hospital ICU with the infected and be infected? :coolsmiley: It is always great when people will put themselves out there for humanity. Please let us know if you survive and about the experience.:clap2:

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The Spanish Flu killed 500 million people world wide it didn’t stop till summer of 1919 , but even back then there were instances of some cities shutting bars and restaurants don’t and having much less cases then other cities of same size . It’s beyond comprehension to say that we should just all open ourself to infection when instead we just take some precautions now and let modern science solve this plague

[Topspinmo]

Ya know if don’t go during the OMG the mail is here time slot, then it’s pretty much empty. If ours is picked up once a week we are doing good. Mask doesn’t protect you.

Most dangerous area in villages? Postal stations between hours of 3PM and 6:30PM.

[Two Bills]

The Spanish Flu killed 500 million people world wide it didn’t stop till summer of 1919 , but even back then there were instances of some cities shutting bars and restaurants don’t and having much less cases then other cities of same size . It’s beyond comprehension to say that we should just all open ourself to infection when instead we just take some precautions now and let modern science solve this plague

That number needs dividing by 10.

[Aloha1]

This is what I think they think.........

I'm not going to be told what to do by anyone.

Our president does not endorse wearing a mask so I won't.

I'm healthy. I won't get sick.

Look at those silly people with masks on. I'm not going to look silly like that.

I wasn't put on this earth to save your ass.

OR:
If you don't do what I think you should, you are an idiot.

What the President does is not my concern. He gets tested constantly, I don't. Therefore I will protect myself.

I'm healthy and I intend to stay that way, so you'd better wear a mask around me.

Look at those who are so fearful that they wear masks when inside their sealed cars.

I wasn't put on this Earth to save your butt but I will make sure I save mine.