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Velvet
06-07-2020, 03:57 PM
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saratogaman
06-07-2020, 03:58 PM
She's assuming he was high because he had the presence of methamphetamines and fentanyl in his bloodstream. Either that or she understands full well that the amount in his bloodstream indicates that he wasn't high, and she's lying on purpose to prove a point that she isn't able to make without lying.

Not surprising for her, she does this often.

So, allegedly being 'high' is a crime and permits a cop to kill him on the spot? Was he charged and tried and sentenced by a court?

Ray Greene
06-07-2020, 04:08 PM
Over 90% of black murders are by other blacks. Less than 4% by police.
When is the black community going to teach their own population that black lives matter.
I believe in it and I’m white
When will the black community get on board.

Antique lady
06-07-2020, 04:25 PM
Just meant that people in Tulsa that know the history of the Black Wall Street Massacre are determined to not see that horrific chapter repeat itself...

Griff3542
06-07-2020, 04:26 PM
A very bright young lady that pretty much sums up the whole situation. I posted it on my page in Facebook.

Antique lady
06-07-2020, 04:36 PM
Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

Byte1
06-07-2020, 04:37 PM
The police DID kill him. It wasn't "the angry mob" or "the protesters" or "the pedestrians" or "the passersby" or "the people crossing the street." And everyone would know, if you had used any of those phrases, that it wasn't ALL angry mobs, and it wouldn't have been ALL protesters, or ALL pedestrians, or ALL passersby, or ALL the people crossing the street. In any other situation, you would know that she was referring to the specific police who were there at the time. It wasn't just one police officer. It was four police officers. So the use of the plural form of "police" was accurate and appropriate.

The police DID kill him. Four police officers, to be specific. "THE" (meaning - something other than ALL) police did kill George Floyd.

Are you not using the word "police" as a plural? If I said "THE" crowd broke into the store, would I be referring to one or many? Nice Michael Jackson moon walk though.

Swoop
06-07-2020, 04:51 PM
He still did not deserve to be snuffed out like an insect under that officer's knee. How can you be so cruel? How can you keep doing that when the person is telling you he can't breathe and that you are killing him? He is heartless. Plus, his wife filed for divorce right away. Could he have been abusive towards her also?

Would you be less outraged if the officer was black or if Floyd was white?

tedquick
06-07-2020, 05:00 PM
She's assuming he was high because he had the presence of methamphetamines and fentanyl in his bloodstream. Either that or she understands full well that the amount in his bloodstream indicates that he wasn't high, and she's lying on purpose to prove a point that she isn't able to make without lying.

Not surprising for her, she does this often.

I have never know her to lie, or for that matter, stretch the truth. Please site examples. If you have solid evidence then I'll reconsider my position regarding her. I think she is one extremely bright young lady and a lady she is.

Antique lady
06-07-2020, 05:01 PM
Mr. Floyd's criminal background does not absolve the officer who murdered him. Let's stop looking for reasons to say he derserved to be murdered. He did not....He may have been high, he may have been a large person but he was murdered while restrained. No way to say that's OK...

Youtube is an amazing platform. Many successful people, in popular culture, were discovered via youtube. I think several people on this thread are simply pointing out that in this tribal environment deciding what sells can boost ones prominence... This young woman is clearly aware of the impact her words will have on the group she is appealing to.

All done for me. I hope some of you will watch Netflix documentary 13, and the History Channel's documentary, Black Wall Street Massacre. No one can undo our past. No one can justify the murder of a person because they have a rap sheet. We can not absolve those few bad apples in uniform who kill unarmed people on the streets of this country.

It has been interesting to read the thoughts posted here...

Byte1
06-07-2020, 05:01 PM
Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

The FBI also says that through out the past years that there is reporting on it, there were more whites EVERY year killed by blacks than blacks killed by whites. Not that this matters on this subject. It also says that more whites are killed every year than blacks by law enforcement. It is interesting how some folks WISH to make everything about "color." If Floyd was white, it would not have been made a big deal and there would have been NO protests or rioting. If the reporting was colorless, and there was no video then this whole thing would not be even discussed.

I am more concerned about the retired police Capt that was shot and killed by looters. And I think that Ms. Owens probably feels the same way. I have heard Owens speak on many occasions, either on TV or on the Internet and I find her very refreshing. She speaks with common sense and I have NEVER heard her speak in any manner that would indicate "hate."

manaboutown
06-07-2020, 05:30 PM
Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

‪Interracial Violent Victimizations (Excluding Homicide) Between Blacks And Whites (2018)‬
‪Total: 593,598‬
‪Committed By Blacks Against Whites: 537,204 (approx. 90%)‬
‪Committed By Whites Against Blacks: 56,394 (less than 10%)‬
‪--Bureau of Justice Statistics‬
From Larry Elder on FB

And remember blacks are only 13% of the population; whites 60%.

eyc234
06-07-2020, 06:07 PM
Well stated!

The sad fact is that she, like so many others, have no clue as to what her ancestors had to suffer and go through, just so she can even just publicly express her views...regardless of how wrong-headed they are. :ohdear:

Just as so many have never stopped to even comprehend, that at the beginning of this nation, African-Americans were the ONLY immigrants...brought here in ropes and chains. :mad:




Why don't you address the subject of the thread, by using generic responses, instead of throwing out specific personal attacks...at those you don't like? :oops:

If you took personal umbrage at one of my generic statements, because you thought it applied to you...that's not my problem. :rolleyes:

Thank you. :ho:


Okay, here are the quotes that I read. Thought I quoted your statements that are in the thread. I do not even know you, how could you think I have a feeling either way about you? I did not take that you were talking about me, just that there is a lot of assumptions and accusations on both sides being said about Ms Owens, whom no one on this forum know personally ( I would venture), that do nothing to help any situation.

Bethwill
06-07-2020, 06:09 PM
His rap sheet is for real no matter the drug level in his body. Look it up.

OrangeBlossomBaby
06-07-2020, 06:34 PM
Are you not using the word "police" as a plural? If I said "THE" crowd broke into the store, would I be referring to one or many? Nice Michael Jackson moon walk though.

Yes of course I'm using it as plural. That's the point. It wasn't just one police officer there. There were four of them, three of whom were actively restraining Floyd while he died. One of them had a knee on his neck. His spine and his legs were also being knelt on by the other two officers. Only one of the four officers was not physically restraining George Floyd. That was the Tao guy, who turned to watch the other three doing it, and made sure to prevent the people on the sidewalk from getting around the side to get a better video of what was going on.

John_W
06-07-2020, 06:36 PM
Just meant that people in Tulsa that know the history of the Black Wall Street Massacre are determined to not see that horrific chapter repeat itself...

History Channel's documentary, Black Wall Street Massacre. No one can undo our past. No one can justify the murder of a person because they have a rap sheet. We can not absolve those few bad apples in uniform who kill unarmed people on the streets of this country.


I'm glad you're getting your money's worth for the History Channel. Because something happened in Tulsa 100 years ago, every white person in Tulsa walks around everyday thinking to themselves, I'm got to do better toward black folk because of the Tulsa Massacre of 1921!!!!

Does that also happen to white people in Richmond? Vicksburg?? How about black people, do they go around everyday thinking, I've got to do better toward white people because of a black man raped and killed a white woman!!!

Love2Swim
06-07-2020, 06:43 PM
Mr. Floyd's criminal background does not absolve the officer who murdered him. Let's stop looking for reasons to say he derserved to be murdered. He did not....He may have been high, he may have been a large person but he was murdered while restrained. No way to say that's OK...

Youtube is an amazing platform. Many successful people, in popular culture, were discovered via youtube. I think several people on this thread are simply pointing out that in this tribal environment deciding what sells can boost ones prominence... This young woman is clearly aware of the impact her words will have on the group she is appealing to.

All done for me. I hope some of you will watch Netflix documentary 13, and the History Channel's documentary, Black Wall Street Massacre. No one can undo our past. No one can justify the murder of a person because they have a rap sheet. We can not absolve those few bad apples in uniform who kill unarmed people on the streets of this country.

It has been interesting to read the thoughts posted here...

I found some of the thoughts rather sickening, that people can be so ignorant. I'd be willing to bet most won't watch any of the documentaries because they will hear facts that do not coincide with their way of thinking and do not jive with the drivel they hear on Fox news.

OrangeBlossomBaby
06-07-2020, 06:53 PM
I have never know her to lie, or for that matter, stretch the truth. Please site examples. If you have solid evidence then I'll reconsider my position regarding her. I think she is one extremely bright young lady and a lady she is.

This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

manaboutown
06-07-2020, 07:23 PM
This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

Candace Owens is a brave and beautiful critically thinking young lady who tells it like it is. She does not buy into all the urban myth, PC lock step brainwashing drivel that comes from the so called mainstream media. Kudos to her!

anothersteve
06-07-2020, 07:31 PM
This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

Being an "Uncle Tom" then and now are two completely different beasts.
She calls out the black Liberals....NOW.........that's what she means, that's what they hate. That's why she calls herself an "Uncle Tom". I commend her for that, especially during these times.
As for the "Blexit" thing KW isn't so clean himself.

Steve

anothersteve
06-07-2020, 07:48 PM
Mr. Floyd's criminal background does not absolve the officer who murdered him. Let's stop looking for reasons to say he derserved to be murdered. He did not....

It has been interesting to read the thoughts posted here...

You will not find one post here where anyone said "he deserved to be "murdered"" There wasn't even a post "absolving" anyone for what happened. Please look back from the very beginning of this thread.. let us know what you find.
Steve

ColdNoMore
06-07-2020, 08:45 PM
Doesn't matter if you are black or white, left is left

NewsOne - Media Bias/Fact Check (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/newsone/)
Steve

Per your own link.

We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting due to a lack of transparency, despite proper sourcing of information and a clean fact check record.


Thank you. :ho:

anothersteve
06-07-2020, 09:03 PM
Per your own link.




Thank you. :ho:

Pick and choose.
Steve

B767drvr
06-07-2020, 09:05 PM
Candace Owens - Con Artist (click here) (http://newsone.com/3848636/candace-owens-receipts-con-artist/)





Click on the link, for other examples of how she's simply cashing in on...what she thinks will make her money.

A lot of you folks are being played...like a fiddle. :D

Then again, being a con person doesn't carry nearly the negative connotations that it did...not so very long ago. :ohdear:

Whatever happened to attacking the MESSAGE, versus attacking the MESSENGER?

A sure sign someone is losing an argument when they resort to ad hominem attack. :ohdear:

I have no idea what part of Ms. Owens' message, if any, you disagree with. It appears you agree with her message, but don't "like" her as a person. Have I got that right?

B767drvr
06-07-2020, 09:24 PM
This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

Same thing... you're attacking the MESSENGER, not the MESSAGE.

What part of her message, besides the fentanyl intoxication, do you disagree with? It was an 18-minute video and she asserted many points, yet I haven't heard anything you disagree with.

mtdjed
06-07-2020, 10:02 PM
You will not find one post here where anyone said "he deserved to be "murdered"" There wasn't even a post "absolving" anyone for what happened. Please look back from the very beginning of this thread.. let us know what you find.
Steve

Why argue with these folks? They don't accept reason. Your reminder above has been stated many times. They ask for proof and it is given and they don't accept. They feel free to malign persons with a different position. Not willing to admit that other persons are entitled to their opinions.

I am starting to agree with Vatican's Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò. Oh wait, now they will say he has no credibility.

Hayek1957
06-08-2020, 05:05 AM
As soon as I saw she was basing her opinion on something that wasn't true, I stopped the video. There's no need to continue watching it at that point.

When any individual refuses to listen to another’s opinion, that individual is practicing willful ignorance.

dewilson58
06-08-2020, 05:15 AM
I don't remember the current reaction to:


'''You'''re gonna kill me!''': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa'''s life (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/31/you-re-gonna-kill-me-dallas-police-body-cam-footage-reveals-the-final-minutes-of-tony-timpa-s-life/)

Swoop
06-08-2020, 07:43 AM
I don't remember the current reaction to:


'''You'''re gonna kill me!''': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa'''s life (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/31/you-re-gonna-kill-me-dallas-police-body-cam-footage-reveals-the-final-minutes-of-tony-timpa-s-life/)

That’s because the national news networks never even picked up the story. It didn’t fit their narrative of police brutality against blacks. It’s not what they want us to be outraged about. Statistics don’t support the media’s drivel, but they will continue to push their agenda.

OhioBuckeye
06-08-2020, 08:33 AM
How did you come to that conclusion?? What part didn't you understand??

Here's a lesson in Comprehension 101!!!!




That guy is just like the people who get up everyday and try and think of ways to sue Walmart. What am I going to do today to agitate the police and get myself on television. Even the black mayor of Buffalo called out the guy!!!!!! Kind of makes you look silly now to bring this up!!! A person who only looks at the surface of matter and doesn't do any research will jump at conclusions. The Mayor of Buffalo, a African American Democrat can even see this person is nothing more than an agitator!! He has comprehension about the situation. Buffalo is a blue collar town, this Mayor has a head on his shoulders!!!


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/06/05/29283782-8394057-Buffalo_Mayor_Byron_Brown_on_Friday_said_he_would_ not_call_for_t-a-86_1591416000513.jpg

Buffalo, N.Y., Mayor Byron Brown (D) on Friday said he was told that the 75-year-old man who was pushed down by police in a viral video was a “major instigator” and an “agitator.”

“According to what was reported to me, that individual was a key and major instigator,” Brown told WBEN in a radio interview.

In a graphic video shot by a WBFO journalist earlier in the week, Martin Gugino is seen slowly approaching the police until one officer tells him to move and pushes him.

A person can be heard yelling, “He’s bleeding out of his ear!” and calling out for medics. Gugino is then seen lying on his back with blood spilling from his ear.

Brown claimed that the police asked Gugino to leave the premises several times as law enforcement tried to disperse protesters after an 8 p.m. curfew.

"He was trying to spark up the crowd of people,” Brown said. “Those people were there into the darkness. Our concern is when it gets dark, there is a potential for violence. There has been vandalism. There have been fires set. There have been stores broken into and looted. According to what was reported to me, that individual was a key and major instigator of people engaging in those activities."
I agree, but what does starting fires & looting have to do with protesting. I thought protesting was about not agreeing with something that’s going on or something said or done, not breaking into stores & stealing or burning someone’s livelihood. Now they want to defund our peace makers so these people can do this without resistant! Who’s stupid idea was this?

Byte1
06-08-2020, 08:44 AM
I think the headline "I do not support George Floyd" is unfortunate - and headlines are not generally written by the speaker/writer, if I understand correctly. Candace Owens sayd "I do not support George Floyd as a martyr". She also says she wants justice for George and the officer who murdered him. She does not want to see him as a martyr because he died while committing a crime. (Not sure if he was seen passing the 20 dollar bill, or if it had happened earlier, but I see what she is getting at.) I don't have an opinion here - I think it is mostly up to the African American community to decide who should be a martyr from that community and who should not. I think the point that in general, criminals should not be made heroes is well taken, and I will pass no judgment on whether this case is an exception.

I think it is indisputable that good will come out of the increased dialogue after this terrible murder. Its also indisputable that very bad things were done by criminals in the name of George Floyd but I believe the peaceful protests helped.

Do you REALLY think that anyone has been convinced by the demonstrations? I can see a heck of a lot of people that have been hurt by it. Has anyone really changed their mind? Doubtful is the correct answer.

Byte1
06-08-2020, 11:00 AM
If serious well-educated people are telling you one thing over-and-over again with hundreds of thousands of people also protesting against criminal actions taken then you should believe there is a problem.

The criminal in this situation was the Minneapolis cop and his accomplices who did not try hard enough to stop him.

I researched what this woman is spewing and find it very offensive.

Main street media is usually right.

Owens is also a well educated person. So, just because she is black that she is not educated? Or, is it ALL conservatives are labeled as uneducated?

Having a lot of people protest only means that THEY have a problem with something, not that they are necessarily right or wrong for that matter. I am sure you would agree with that premise?

The COP may or may not be a criminal. That is for the courts to decide. Just as some wished that Floyd would have had a day in court (to add to the infinite amount he already has under his belt). Floyd was a criminal also, in case you forgot. And that seems to be the case with many that jumped on the band wagon to martyr him.

The point of Owens spouting stuff that is "offensive" is an opinion. And like something else a person has.....the saying goes "everyone has one." I find her to be intelligent and refreshing. I find there to be hope for America as long as folks of color are willing to be open minded about the REAL problem with race relations in America. As revealed by this incident, non-blacks are willing to be open minded or empathize, at least. Believe it or not, it is not totally the "white man's" fault.

She made a statement of fact and those that do not like the facts, deny them. Not agreeing with an opinion is normal, but to deny facts is ignorance.

Regarding "mainstream media" I beg to differ. They are OFTEN wrong. Being "usually right" does not say much for media that is supposed to report facts.

Byte1
06-08-2020, 11:08 AM
I agree, but what does starting fires & looting have to do with protesting. I thought protesting was about not agreeing with something that’s going on or something said or done, not breaking into stores & stealing or burning someone’s livelihood. Now they want to defund our peace makers so these people can do this without resistant! Who’s stupid idea was this?

Liberals idea to defund the law enforcement. And the rest of us have to share the rotten fruits of their stupidity. It is the story of America. Pretty soon, America is going to be all out of resources with the ability to ward off STUPID and then it will just become a failed banana republic, or should I say elitist run socialist dictatorship. Sorry for the rant. My only excuse is that I have limited patience with Stupid ideas about reducing the effectiveness of law enforcement.

Byte1
06-08-2020, 11:15 AM
Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

So why folks out demonstrating about white on white murder? Why don't they start a White Lives Matter protest? I think the point they were trying to make is that there is way more black on black killings than white on black killings. Correct me if I am wrong, but that really isn't that difficult to understand. I went to the FBI website to fact check and it really is true.

Byte1
06-08-2020, 11:33 AM
Yes of course I'm using it as plural. That's the point. It wasn't just one police officer there. There were four of them, three of whom were actively restraining Floyd while he died. One of them had a knee on his neck. His spine and his legs were also being knelt on by the other two officers. Only one of the four officers was not physically restraining George Floyd. That was the Tao guy, who turned to watch the other three doing it, and made sure to prevent the people on the sidewalk from getting around the side to get a better video of what was going on.

Having dealt with individuals that were under the influence of strong drugs such as PCP, I know that it takes more than one to subdue the person being arrested. They are dangerous and those emergency responders are taught to put him on the ground first in order to get control of him. I am not excusing improper handling of the suspect, but I can see how on rare occasions someone can be injured or even killed. Improper handling is NOT murder unless done purposely. I believe that a court of law is the one to judge those men, not the media and definitely not us, based on limited information. Everyone says that Floyd deserved to have yet another trial before judged and I agree. I also feel that we should wait for a court judgement before we armchair convict four police officers. I would definitely like to see the perp that shot and killed Capt Dorn, arrested and court judges. Society will miss Capt Dorn, I am sure. Not so much, Floyd.

Aloha1
06-08-2020, 03:56 PM
Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

Of which there were 9 in the last statistical year data was posted. Oh, and 19 people of pink color.

manaboutown
06-08-2020, 04:44 PM
Larry Elder is another person that is worth listening to.

I get his posts on FB. He is incredible!

Bogie Shooter
06-08-2020, 04:49 PM
Incredible........

karostay
06-08-2020, 04:50 PM
Candace Owens Rocks! go girl go

Steve9930
06-08-2020, 09:04 PM
Candice Owen pretty much knocked it out of the park!

twinklesweep
06-08-2020, 10:45 PM
George Floyd doesn’t need Candace Owen’s support—or anyone else’s, for that matter. He’s dead, having been videoed in the street being murdered by a police officer whose murder appears to be supported by three fellow police officers in that they did nothing to stop him. A bizarre thought: As this murder was not instantaneous, if only a group of bystanders rushed the police and forced the murderer off Mr Floyd. Not such a good idea; they might have been able to save Mr Floyd)s life, but imagine what could have happened to them....

Anyone who finds justification in agreeing with Ms Owen’s focus on character description of Mr Floyd (accurate as it may have been; I have no certain way of knowing) rather than cringing and being horrified by yet another murder of an unarmed civilian by a police officer by essentially choking him to death is the reason why my parents are spinning in their graves about what has become of the Republican Party of their day.

Mr Floyd could well have had a poor character. I’m not saying any of this is true; I’m just supposing. Maybe he didn’t pay his child support. Maybe he abused women. Maybe he belittled the disabled. Maybe he insulted or even caused harm to those who disagreed with him. During the 911 call, it was said he appeared drunk, an autopsy confirming he was using drugs. The effects of both appear the same, something I would see here in TV virtually daily before. Covid-19. But at that moment—theday of his murder—his only possible crime affecting anyone was trying to shop with a counterfeit $20 bill—possible because it could not be said that he knew it was counterfeit. RIP, Mr Floyd, and condolences to his loved ones.

B767drvr
06-09-2020, 03:24 AM
George Floyd doesn’t need Candace Owen’s support—or anyone else’s, for that matter. He’s dead, having been videoed in the street being murdered by a police officer whose murder appears to be supported by three fellow police officers in that they did nothing to stop him. A bizarre thought: As this murder was not instantaneous, if only a group of bystanders rushed the police and forced the murderer off Mr Floyd. Not such a good idea; they might have been able to save Mr Floyd)s life, but imagine what could have happened to them....

Anyone who finds justification in agreeing with Ms Owen’s focus on character description of Mr Floyd (accurate as it may have been; I have no certain way of knowing) rather than cringing and being horrified by yet another murder of an unarmed civilian by a police officer by essentially choking him to death is the reason why my parents are spinning in their graves about what has become of the Republican Party of their day.

Mr Floyd could well have had a poor character. I’m not saying any of this is true; I’m just supposing. Maybe he didn’t pay his child support. Maybe he abused women. Maybe he belittled the disabled. Maybe he insulted or even caused harm to those who disagreed with him. During the 911 call, it was said he appeared drunk, an autopsy confirming he was using drugs. The effects of both appear the same, something I would see here in TV virtually daily before. Covid-19. But at that moment—theday of his murder—his only possible crime affecting anyone was trying to shop with a counterfeit $20 bill—possible because it could not be said that he knew it was counterfeit. RIP, Mr Floyd, and condolences to his loved ones.

What did you think of Ms. Owens' remarks in the video?

To the best of my recollection, in nearly 300 posts, only a single poster took exception to a single remark (regarding Mr. Floyd's fentanyl intoxication).

That's pretty unheard of to have near unanimous agreement of her points in the video.

Bay Kid
06-09-2020, 07:09 AM
The truth hurts real bad. Some people just don't want to know the real truth.

twinklesweep
06-10-2020, 09:11 AM
In college the course was called Discussion and Debate. One can spend a lifetime hammering out how many angels can dance on the head of a pin--and never get to a conclusion. My own feeling is that when it comes to truth, it's best to keep it simple:

An unarmed--in this case handcuffed--civilian was killed (murdered, according to the legal charges) in the street by a police officer with the support of three other police officers.

Ms Owen's remarks have nothing to do with this. Let it play out in court.

B767drvr
06-10-2020, 09:51 PM
Ms Owen's remarks have nothing to do with this.


Since I'm the OP I believe I can speak to the TOPIC of the thread I started. The TOPIC is specifically about Candace Owens' remarks. If you wish to start a new thread, not about Candace Owens' remarks on George Floyd, you're welcome to. However, aren't you being a bit of a bully to barge in on this thread and redirect what you think the topic of THIS thread should be about?

clwahlstrom
06-11-2020, 06:59 AM
Live Candace... always speaks her mind!

Red Rose
06-14-2020, 06:12 PM
She is brave enough to speak the truth.

ColdNoMore
06-16-2020, 07:55 AM
She's simply cashing in (literally)...on what some people want to hear.

She used to have a different outlook...but it didn't pay as much.

GoodLife
06-16-2020, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by ColdNoMore


Or don't you believe people...are allowed to learn, grow and make themselves better?

If you say no, THAT would really...be a depressing thought.

ColdNoMore
06-16-2020, 08:26 AM
And it's purely a coincidence, that ONLY certain blacks (a minute %) are believed and supported by some white folks...while the vast majority are constantly vilified, denigrated and not believed by those same whites?

Yeah, that coincidence...makes perfect sense. :oops:

anothersteve
06-16-2020, 08:56 AM
She's simply cashing in (literally)...on what some people want to hear.

She used to have a different outlook...but it didn't pay as much.

I'm shocked...a meme?
Can you find where she said those exact words? And in what context?
She was a black girl threatened by whites, I would think you would defend her...Her being black and all.
Anything to turn anything around.

The story;

NAACP escorts alleged hate crime victim to school (http://sip-trunking.tmcnet.com/news/2007/03/26/2443616.htm)

Candace Owens: from Stamford High ‘victim’ to conservative firebrand (https://apnews.com/f894b9561b1444ec8430ffde7851a51b)

Racist threats case filed by Stamford High student settled for $37,500 - NewsTimes (https://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Racist-threats-case-filed-by-Stamford-High-107476.php)

Steve