Digital Passports

[rhood]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?

[Bjeanj]

I don’t know. Can you ask them and let us know?

[retiredguy123]

I like it the way it is. But, I don't like anything the airlines do.

[tophcfa]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?

I am OK if they make digital an option, but please don't make it mandatory and replace being able to show an ID. I for one do not like being forced to use my phone for everything, and have it full of Apps that track everything I do. I would much rather just show my ID, the good old fashion way. Besides, its much easier to carry my ID in my money clip, which is always with me, then to always have to bring my phone wherever I go.

[Vikingjunior]

Take a picture of your Resident ID with your phone.

[retiredguy123]

Take a picture of your Resident ID with your phone.
The Villages does not accept a photocopy of your ID.

[Verchachi]

As soon as they get rid of the gate cards and auto open the gates when you approach then they intend on studying digital technology for a few years.

[Alaska Butch]

As more folks move here that have used the tech in their everyday life, we will see more advocating for it.

[joseppe]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?

Much of the Villages (or maybe Villagers) seem to shun technology. Paper and Pencil seem to be the norm.

[DrBrutyle109]

Thank you. Agree 1,000 %. It’s becoming a very lazy society

[noslices1]

I am OK if they make digital an option, but please don't make it mandatory and replace being able to show an ID. I for one do not like being forced to use my phone for everything, and have it full of Apps that track everything I do. I would much rather just show my ID, the good old fashion way. Besides, its much easier to carry my ID in my money clip, which is always with me, then to always have to bring my phone wherever I go.

I love showing my ID when I go to VOTE!

[mrichardwebb]

We need to move to 21st century. Technology is efficiency. Ok with old ways as optional but don’t force me to be ancient and archaich in everyday life.

[epratt]

You need to be present when you check in for golf to certify that you and your ID are the person who has that tee time. If they allow you to digitally check in, then what stops people from not showing up and therefore a slot might be taken when someone else can use that slot? Also there would be no cancellation points for people just not showing up.

[Two Bills]

I can do digital if required, but when travelling, I like paper, pasports and ID.
Batteries can run down, cells can malfunction, but good old paper never lets you down!

[Girlcopper]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?
Because the ones still living in the 1900s dont know updated technology and someone would still have to be there to do it for them

[Dilligas]

You need to be present when you check in for golf to certify that you and your ID are the person who has that tee time. If they allow you to digitally check in, then what stops people from not showing up and therefore a slot might be taken when someone else can use that slot? Also there would be no cancellation points for people just not showing up.
??? Try that statement again please....it doesn’t make sense. Digital check in is not “remote check in”. You’d still have to be present to check in. Cancellation points get assigned to those who don’t show up.

[StateRobinbird]

Take a picture of your Resident ID with your phone.

I tried using the “Wallet” app which stores your card & barcode so it can be scanned. The rec center employee told me they weren’t allowed to use it.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

I like the fact that I have to show my ID. As stated before....Batteries run down, etc.
Paper and pencil will be around forever. Remember when we were going to be a paperless society? Yeah that did not work. Why because computers crash. Etc. I don't even like getting my bills paperless. Call me behind the times and I am fine with that. Don't get me wrong I like having a cell phone. Great when I need direction. Or calling for help when my car breaks down. Lots of good reason to have one but then I draw the line. I don't want to rely on my phone.

[Kgcetm]

Why do people move here and want to make it the way it is there? Something's not right. Maybe genetics?

[mydavid]

I have a Tracfone, no contract, cost about $10 a month and only on when I want to use it. I'm freed form one device, now if I could just get rid of the TV.

[Girlcopper]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?
Becasue not everyone in TV is adept at using apps

[thelegges]

As more folks move here that have used the tech in their everyday life, we will see more advocating for it.

Much of the Villages (or maybe Villagers) seem to shun technology. Paper and Pencil seem to be the norm.

We have been coming to TV since 07, I never thought people were in the dark ages as you are posting. According to posts you must really be surprised that residents can function at all, being they don’t have any tech savvy. Some choose to be off the grid after many years of work, but still have that knowledge

What an insult to this community

We have the most diverse community that I know of. Retired Military, Physician’s, NASA, Educator’s, Engineer’s, Medical Staff, and the list goes on.

[Ldogg21]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?

I’d rather carry a small card with me to the rec center than lug my phone around and have to find a safe place to store it

[oneclickplus]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?

"Allow this technology"? It's probably more along the lines of ... a programmer would need to build it, test it, maintain it. Perhaps you could do that and offer them the technology.

[Laidlaw193]

Not allowed.....

[PugMom]

Much of the Villages (or maybe Villagers) seem to shun technology. Paper and Pencil seem to be the norm.

i like the idea of not being controlled by technology. half the population are staring into phone's all day. if there's a need to go online, i use my pc.

[UseYourBrain]

I love showing my ID when I go to VOTE!
Thinking the same thing. And we can have vaccine IDs but no voter IDs. Just think about it

[Bill1701]

Not all of us carry our phones everywhere we go. It is much easier to put my ID in my pocket or golf cart.

[NY2TV]

I attached a sleeve to the back of my phone (sticks and is very thin) and I keep my ID in there. So if I have y phone, I have my ID with me. And I don't have to worry about battery.

[Astron]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?
Are you willing to pay extra for this; because there is no tech fairy going to provide this. There are going to be serious equipment and software costs that will be required up front and training costs for staff and residents. All to replace a simple system that works well. Who would be paying for all this? All of us. No thank you. Keep it simple and cheap.

[rlcooper70]

A number of people seem to embrace the concept that we are living in the past ... technology is an anathema and they want to keep it that way. Fear? I have no idea.

[Bc5010]

I’m ok with a implant chip — no phone, pencil etc.

[notme6w]

Just a matter of time before they start using that chip in your arm that will be mandatory like your pet

[Dlbonivich]

I love showing my ID when I go to VOTE!

Seriously, have you seen their website? It makes TV look like a place to come when your 90. They need to get on the ball. All the DelWeb communities have older active looking people. It really does not represent TV well.

[retiredguy123]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?
You can check in for a flight online, but you still need to go through security and show an ID.

[Waltdisney4life]

IDs and guest passes on phones can be duplicated so I guess you’re OK with non-Village people and non Village guest coming in using our facilities whatever they want even when they don’t pay for it. Would you then complain about overcrowding and where did all these people come from.

[Big D]

They do not accept a picture of your ID on your phone as being valid. I’ve tried this on the pickle ball courts and have been
Told by the rec center employees that I have to present the actual ID card.

[Larchap49]

Because the ones still living in the 1900s dont know updated technology and someone would still have to be there to do it for them

One thing the Villages has an abundance of and will never run out of is sarcastic people. Why are so many of retired and wealthy residents so grumpy?

[Beyond The Wall]

It took the airlines years to get their apps to be useable....still not totally there. To support that , how much more are you willing to pay in fees? The $8 per month Villages-net charges is reasonable . Expert about the same if they go app route. As more tech savvy population moves in I expect it will happen.

[eschiavo]

Why not a windshield scanner to open gates like we use on turnpike.

[Daddymac]

Much of the Villages (or maybe Villagers) seem to shun technology. Paper and Pencil seem to be the norm.

Paper and pencils Hmmmm
Shredder and eraser !!!
:boom::bigbow::boom:

[rmd2]

Thank you. Agree 1,000 %. It’s becoming a very lazy society

Gee, maybe that's why we came here - to retire.

[rmd2]

I like the fact that I have to show my ID. As stated before....Batteries run down, etc.
Paper and pencil will be around forever. Remember when we were going to be a paperless society? Yeah that did not work. Why because computers crash. Etc. I don't even like getting my bills paperless. Call me behind the times and I am fine with that. Don't get me wrong I like having a cell phone. Great when I need direction. Or calling for help when my car breaks down. Lots of good reason to have one but then I draw the line. I don't want to rely on my phone.

ditto.
and don't even get me started on lunch with cell phone users :(

[Joe C.]

TECHNOLOGY ????
It's only good for certain applications. For something as simple as an ID, I would prefer an ID card.
Suppose there is a glitch in the system, and you are trying to enter the rec center for your championship game, or even your club dinner, and the system doesn't recognize your App. "Whutcha gonna do"?
Technology is good only when it works.
A physical ID card works all the time.

[bonrich]

Beyond that discussed, I am hoping that Citizens First Bank would get the program to be able to transfer bank to bank. I have a bank account up North and I can transfer funds to Citizens First, but cannot do the same transfer to bank in NYS from Citizens. That would be the main reason why I have to consider who to bank with as a primary.

[bevlaur]

I feel that putting every form of ID, payments, account numbers, family information, etc. etc. on your cell phone is really not a good idea. With all the hackers and IT individuals who try to take advantage of us all, not just old people but the public in general it is so dangerous to have it all on your phone. Just per chance, can you imagine if you happen to lose your phone and one of those nasty, very technically intelligent hacker persons gets ALL your info?
I find that there are lots of times rather than carry all the cards, especially simple things like grocery store discounts, pharmacies, etc. just use your cell/home phone number.

[Jokomo]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?

What will it cost The Villages and what is the benefit to The Villages? It won’t ever happen until the benefit matches or outweighs the cost. And their math skills are excellent.

[rwfisher1969]

As more folks move here that have used the tech in their everyday life, we will see more advocating for it.

Don't worry, we're moving in more and more by the day. To us, having a phone with us at all times is common place. It is an everyday appendage! lol

[rwfisher1969]

Much of the Villages (or maybe Villagers) seem to shun technology. Paper and Pencil seem to be the norm.

As more and more of the next generation moves in, that will have to change. Its just the way it is. Technology is not a bad thing.

[jcreason5616]

Just had this conversation last night. We surmise it will take 10 to 15 years until this catches on but when it happens I will jump for joy!!

[rwfisher1969]

Thank you. Agree 1,000 %. It’s becoming a very lazy society

Its not being lazy. It is a more productive way of doing everyday tasks.

[tophcfa]

Because the ones still living in the 1900s dont know updated technology and someone would still have to be there to do it for them

Or they simply don’t like being surgically connected to a cell phone full of apps that track everything they do.

[rwfisher1969]

We need to move to 21st century. Technology is efficiency. Ok with old ways as optional but don’t force me to be ancient and archaich in everyday life.

:bigbow::a040::a040: Microphone drop!

[rwfisher1969]

Why do people move here and want to make it the way it is there? Something's not right. Maybe genetics?

Against current popular beliefs in TV, CHANGE is good!

[rwfisher1969]

We have been coming to TV since 07, I never thought people were in the dark ages as you are posting. According to posts you must really be surprised that residents can function at all, being they don’t have any tech savvy. Some choose to be off the grid after many years of work, but still have that knowledge

What an insult to this community

We have the most diverse community that I know of. Retired Military, Physician’s, NASA, Educator’s, Engineer’s, Medical Staff, and the list goes on.

That is not diversity.

[dlspiess]

When you vote Back home they don’t even have to show their ID and you can’t force them to. Not good in my opinion

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I am OK if they make digital an option, but please don't make it mandatory and replace being able to show an ID. I for one do not like being forced to use my phone for everything, and have it full of Apps that track everything I do. I would much rather just show my ID, the good old fashion way. Besides, its much easier to carry my ID in my money clip, which is always with me, then to always have to bring my phone wherever I go.

It would have to be an option. Believe it or not, I've met villagers that don't have a smart phone or a computer.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

We have been coming to TV since 07, I never thought people were in the dark ages as you are posting. According to posts you must really be surprised that residents can function at all, being they don’t have any tech savvy. Some choose to be off the grid after many years of work, but still have that knowledge

What an insult to this community

We have the most diverse community that I know of. Retired Military, Physician’s, NASA, Educator’s, Engineer’s, Medical Staff, and the list goes on.

You don't mention that there are plenty of retired school teachers, postal workers, factory workers, police officers, firefighters and plenty people who retired from blue collar jobs.

[DAVES]

Much of the Villages (or maybe Villagers) seem to shun technology. Paper and Pencil seem to be the norm.


Nothing is or ever will be perfect. We still use checks-Imagine.
We moved to the villages about eight years ago. I have no idea how they got our address.
I was turned over for collection for a claimed unpaid water bill. Typical of many companies, rather than investigate they turn you in for collection and you get stuck doing their job. The water company was sold. Due to their error or previous error
they had my bill as un-paid. Perhaps, used to dealing with dead beats. I gave them my check number date etc. They went away for a year or two and then started the same thing again. They were shocked when I demanded a letter stating what the issue was and that if I was KIND ENOUGH to send them a copy of the cancelled check they would resolve the matter. I did that. As expected a year latter they started again. I told them to research their letter dated, signed by.........
Paper pencil, pen still is useful. Imagine doing this as they expect-on line banking.
My credit is excellent. We all have disputes. I always insist on a signed letter of apology
and I have a pile of them. Computers do not solve all problems. For many things they change things, invent new problems and or make old problems more difficult to resolve.

Mark Twain said something like-We don't make any progress because we lose what was.

[Pairadocs]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?

Just one opinion, but don't think I'd like the idea of having to take my cell phone every time I went to a pool or played golf, but would be fine with me as long as you didn't HAVE to have a cell phone with you, would continue to be an ID card. My other concern is that most of these are associated with large populations (air travelers, Starbucks customers) so the investment in the technology would pay off. But for Villagers ? WHO would pay the huge initial and on going costs since that would require substantial PROFITS the are sustainable; surely not the owner/developers ? Perhaps the $50 cost of a card could be pushed up to cover the app and associated technology ? For me it works just fine for me but would not fight it if this is what our community wants ! I would hate the idea that if I lost a phone (?) and cards were no longer accepted, that I would have no access to amenities until I waited the period to find or recover the phone... that's why it would not make much sense to discontinue the ID cards completely IMO. BTW, I've had very spotty success with my digital passport ! I for one will no longer rely on it !

[Pairadocs]

Nothing is or ever will be perfect. We still use checks-Imagine.
We moved to the villages about eight years ago. I have no idea how they got our address.
I was turned over for collection for a claimed unpaid water bill. Typical of many companies, rather than investigate they turn you in for collection and you get stuck doing their job. The water company was sold. Due to their error or previous error
they had my bill as un-paid. Perhaps, used to dealing with dead beats. I gave them my check number date etc. They went away for a year or two and then started the same thing again. They were shocked when I demanded a letter stating what the issue was and that if I was KIND ENOUGH to send them a copy of the cancelled check they would resolve the matter. I did that. As expected a year latter they started again. I told them to research their letter dated, signed by.........
Paper pencil, pen still is useful. Imagine doing this as they expect-on line banking.
My credit is excellent. We all have disputes. I always insist on a signed letter of apology
and I have a pile of them. Computers do not solve all problems. For many things they change things, invent new problems and or make old problems more difficult to resolve.

Mark Twain said something like-We don't make any progress because we lose what was.

So TRUE TRUE TRUE.... just look at the multitude of problems "social media" has fueled; from depression, to divorce, to suicide. We "invent" new medicines, see them in ads on TV all the time, then they invent new "diseases" and conditions FOR the medicines, GO ask you doctor, call them TODAY and ask about _______ ! I for one came from a family that did NOT call our doctor and tell them what medicine to order for our family. Now it's the same with auto deposit by snapping a picture of a check, all so safe, never any problems, everything virtual.... humm, I guess I am turning into my grandmother ! Always thinking the newest is not necessarily the best ! :ohdear::ohdear:

[Pairadocs]

What will it cost The Villages and what is the benefit to The Villages? It won’t ever happen until the benefit matches or outweighs the cost. And their math skills are excellent.

Having been a resident for some time now, I kind of think it would NOT be "The Villages" (the entity/development business) that would be paying for this "advancement".... hummm, let's see, who else could/would be paying ?

[Pairadocs]

A number of people seem to embrace the concept that we are living in the past ... technology is an anathema and they want to keep it that way. Fear? I have no idea.

Maybe fear, maybe they've just been through the never ending hassle of not having proof other than "virtual proof", or maybe just the never ending news of the newest government, medical records, financial, hacking. In this case, "fear" could be a good "friend".... :icon_wink:

[LianneMigiano]

How about the gate cards, too????

[zuidemab]

Hilarious !!!

[BogeyBoy]

I think the most recent "update" from the Villages mentions that they are working on an ID for cell phones and also tee times on your cell phone.

[DAVES]

So TRUE TRUE TRUE.... just look at the multitude of problems "social media" has fueled; from depression, to divorce, to suicide. We "invent" new medicines, see them in ads on TV all the time, then they invent new "diseases" and conditions FOR the medicines, GO ask you doctor, call them TODAY and ask about _______ ! I for one came from a family that did NOT call our doctor and tell them what medicine to order for our family. Now it's the same with auto deposit by snapping a picture of a check, all so safe, never any problems, everything virtual.... humm, I guess I am turning into my grandmother ! Always thinking the newest is not necessarily the best ! :ohdear::ohdear:

A whole other subject. Regular debate things are not as good as they used to be. I had a hobby of reading old books, published pre WWI. Many of the problems we think we have invented they too dealt with. The Wright brothers. First powered flight 1903. In there letters, though they didn't use the term, they complained about fake news. Reporters repeating mistake information from others. People writing about things. Arguing about things who do not know what they are talking about.

As far as your doctor. I remember days of old when the doctor came to your home. He possibly but rarely she had a chance to see how clean the place was, who your parents were etc. Today, a doctor has about 15 minutes to spend with a patient. Does he/she really know you or did they look at your chart? You can actually research when you will die and what will kill you. I do not want to know.

Grandmother? My great grandmother was well over 100 when she passed. There is nothing like being 9-10 and hearing a dirty joke from someone over 100. Change?
She as a kid came to the US on a sailing ship as steerage-the cheap seats. By the time she passed men were walking on the moon. For us. When I started working a computer with about the same power as you cell phone required it's own air conditioned
room.
On the other side of my family my grandmother was a great cook. You can buy books on the Mediterranean diet. Grandma said if it looks good on the plate it is good for you.
Good on the plate? Defined by grandma colorful.

For us. Who knows. Teasing Perhaps, after we pass-no one gets out alive-they will say imagine they thought bacon and salami were bad for you. What really killed them was cell phones and the stress from them.

[stan the man]

As soon as they get rid of the gate cards and auto open the gates when you approach then they intend on studying digital technology for a few years.

:bigbow::bigbow:

[Crazyladycruz]

Sadly, not everyone is tech savvy.... I am thinking that is part of the reason.
That’s why they make jitterbug, flip phones and consumer cellular😞

[Ken D.]

I think the point was we have some very well educated folks here that don’t care/or want the latest technology. They just want to gel in retirement.

[CFrance]

Take a picture of your Resident ID with your phone.
I don't think TV accepts phone pics of your ID.

[NY2TV]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?

A big difference between checking in at the airport and sporting events is their apps don't attach a photo. At airport you still have to show photo ID. If you don't have a photo included in the app and have a TV staff member check the photo on the phone, you will have people sharing apps. That could lead to a myriad of other problems.

[RICH1]

When we pay 600.00 a month for the technology..

[rogerk]

If "they" opt for digital the residents will have to pay. This is responsibly of the District Government not the developer. Do you still want to go digital?.

[Rosebud1949]

Why do we need to become DIGITAL.... Most are over 55 many over 65 and we did not live by digital means. so why now. There are many reasons listed here why we should NOT join the 21st century.. many would say.... Why should I buy a $500+ phone just to sign up for an activity... leave us be. If you want a fast digital world go live somewhere else.


I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?

[champion6]

I can check into the airport for a flight or a sporting event using an app on my my phone. When will The Villages get on the ball and allow this technology to be used for Rec centers and golf?They have been announced. Being discussed in this thread: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/your-villager-id-coming-villages-app-314544/

[Dave@TV]

You need to be present when you check in for golf to certify that you and your ID are the person who has that tee time. If they allow you to digitally check in, then what stops people from not showing up and therefore a slot might be taken when someone else can use that slot? Also there would be no cancellation points for people just not showing up.

I read in TV Newspaper recently that they are working on including a Digital Villages ID as part of The Villages App. You would then be able to use the ID on your phone to check in at golf courses, rec centers, etc., instead of using your card. I don't see where they are considering a digital check-in process, probably for the reasons you give.

[JoMar]

Going to auto open gates would reduce a bunch of the data that both TV and I assume the County and Police use. Until they move to a bar code or other "reader" technology I don't see them moving to a proximity system.