Children - all ages

[mgkw1]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

[vintageogauge]

I think you might have moved to the wrong community. We have several owners whose adult children and grandchildren live with them near our home and have not had any bad experiences with them. You can't ban children or grandchildren 19 or over from living here, you should have known that when your purchased, if not you didn't do your homework. As far as how long visitors can stay or rentals beyond 6 months, once again you didn't do your homework. You made your bed now you have to sleep in it or go find a new one and good luck with that.

[John_W]

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[CFrance]

In many cases those adult children become care givers.
Or already are.


OP, Quit reading the online newspaper. They only point out the bad ones. You probably had the same ratio of troublemakers in your prior neighborhood.


I don't see that TV is overrun with young, noisy hooligans.


Geeze.:ohdear:

[stanley]

Or already are.

I don't see that TV is overrun with young, noisy hooligans.


Yeah...they don't play at the squares that often :1rotfl:

[VApeople]

I think you might have moved to the wrong community. We have several owners whose adult children and grandchildren live with them near our home and have not had any bad experiences with them. You can't ban children or grandchildren 19 or over from living here, you should have known that when your purchased, if not you didn't do your homework. As far as how long visitors can stay or rentals beyond 6 months, once again you didn't do your homework. You made your bed now you have to sleep in it or go find a new one and good luck with that.

That is a great response!

[Gpsma]

One of our neighbors has a special needs child....not a child, he is 31. They have him a community that is womderful....beautiful place that looks like a condo community in Florida.

When Covid hit...they basically closed the place except for those that had no where to go.
So my neighbors son has lives here for a year....he is wonderful...everyone so likes him.

But I agree...just because you can bring your druggie son or daughter here...its your issue..but Im not tolerating that crap for long.

But maybe the OP should have realized....this isnt a restricted community.

I love to see young visitors enjoying themselves here

Think OP is a grump

[Stu from NYC]

Very rare that young people get into trouble and for some reason the local paper thinks it should be a headline.

All of young people we have seen around here are well behaved.

[John41]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

The developer advertises The Villages as a gated and adult community. It isn’t. Lots of crime and drugs by adult children living here. We have good neighbors, no barking dogs or kids but know of bad situations elsewhere especially in the new section near Wildwood, one of the most dangerous cities in Florida.

[mixsonci]

I noticed that a lot of the people who get into trouble and still live with their parents are in their 40s and even 50s, it's not always the younger ones who live with parents

[njbchbum]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

Perhaps you should have done your due diligence on 55+ Communities before moving to the Villages - but - it is never too late to learn. Housing-55 & Older Communities — Florida Commission on Human Relations (https://fchr.myflorida.com/fchr55andolderhousing/?rq=55%2B%20community)

[vintageogauge]

The developer advertises The Villages as a gated and adult community. It isn’t. Lots of crime and drugs by adult children living here. We have good neighbors, no barking dogs or kids but know of bad situations elsewhere especially in the new section near Wildwood, one of the most dangerous cities in Florida.

First of all TV meets the requirements of a 55 and over community, gated or not gated has nothing to do with the OP. There are more crimes by those 55 and over than by the children of residents as well as drug use. I have no idea where you get your facts regarding bad situations especially in the new sections near Wildwood. I have lived in Fenney for nearly 4 years, we have very minimal criminal activity here, rarely is anything reported in that on-line news outlet in our area most of the reported crimes are in areas north of 44. The areas of Wildwood that occasionally have crimes reported are all north of 44 also, not down here in the "new section" as you call it. By the way, Wildwood is not one of the most dangerous cities in Florida, it is not even in the top 20.

[kathyspear]

I expect there are more children here right now because so many public schools around the country are closed. Good time to come down and visit the grandparents, get out of the cold up north. Remote schooling can be done from grandma's guest room as easily as back home.

If the teachers ever agree to go back to work the kids will go home. This too shall pass.

kathy

[retiredguy123]

I don't have a problem with rules. But, I do have a problem with rules that are not enforced. If The Villages is going to establish age related rules, they should also establish a system to enforce the rules when they are notified of a violation. Unfortunately, in many cases, they don't.

[Marathon Man]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

Not really. Maybe the only one upset is the poster.

[Velvet]

I expect there are more children here right now because so many public schools around the country are closed. Good time to come down and visit the grandparents, get out of the cold up north. Remote schooling can be done from grandma's guest room as easily as back home.

If the teachers ever agree to go back to work the kids will go home. This too shall pass.

kathy

Yes, as long as they stay no more than the 30 days in total per year if they are under 19 ... all is good. Nice time to visit.

[njbchbum]

I noticed that a lot of the people who get into trouble and still live with their parents are in their 40s and even 50s, it's not always the younger ones who live with parents

And don't forget their parents who seem to have their own share of issues!

[Eg_cruz]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement
You speak as if no one over the age of 55 here in The Villages gets DUI, because they do all the time, as if 55 and over don’t do drugs...because they do a lot here in The Villages. The spousal abuse in The Villages is high here. And FYI 20% of Villages are under 55 they had to do this because The Villages is NOT and PRIVATE 55 and over....maybe you should go look for a private community if you don’t want to be around people under the age of 55 because The Villages is not a private community.

[PPLEPEU]

...but know of bad situations elsewhere especially in the new section near Wildwood, one of the most dangerous cities in Florida.

I’m not sure where you heard Wildwood is so dangerous, but that’s not correct at all. It barely made the top 100.

Most Dangerous Cities In Florida For 2021 (https://www.roadsnacks.net/most-dangerous-cities-in-florida/)

[mlmarr1]

Rules... gee our nation has rules that are not enforced.. 55 plus community not able too either..just relax

[MandoMan]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

I hear you, and I’m sympathetic. However. There are people living here who are a lot older than we are and who may not be in good health or may have mobility issues. My dad is a widower of 92 and lives far away, but I’d love it if my little sister would move in with him and make him a meal or two and give him company and conversation and all that. That’s often the case here. I’ll bet there are thousands of people here who don’t say a word to anyone most days. I’m very active here, and I talk with lots of people, but I used to live that way, in silence. Grown children sometimes move in to care for their aging parents. It’s much cheaper than putting them in a nursing home, and for many, it’s a better situation. It’s also sometimes self-sacrificing.

Some grown children have never left home for various reasons. Often they wish they could have, but they didn’t. There are even many famous people around the country who lived with their parents until their parents died. Some of these children have Down Syndrome or some other physical or mental condition that requires parental care. Imagine elderly parents who have cared for this sort of child for many decades reading your post. How do they feel? Was this how they had planned to spend their lives?

Then there are the grown children who just don’t fit in our society, who have criminal problems, or were poor students, or who can’t hold down a job. That’s not what we want for our kids, and kids like this may be an embarrassment or a disgrace, but what are we going to do? Do we tell them to go live on the streets somewhere? Do we tell them to go off and die? Our children? It’s heartbreaking.

Then there are the grown kids living here who are drug addicts. Again, people don’t want their kids to do drugs, but are parents to kick them out if they come home for help, or sell their homes in The Villages so they can provide for their children somewhere where they won’t offend you?

I’ve seen a number of young kids here in the past few weeks, but generally I see hardly any. I don’t have grandchildren, and I have no urge to have any, but I know I was crazy about my grandparents, and one of the happiest times of my life was getting to live with them for a couple months one summer. I also know that for my own family, vacations meant flying five of us from Pennsylvania to Colorado or California for a week in the summer and a week at Christmas, if we could swing it. It could be exhausting for everyone, and we had to save all year to manage it, but we all loved it anyway. Would you deny the tens of thousands of grandparents here the right to have their kids and grandkids visit on vacations? This isn’t a nursing home.

As for the pools, I haven’t yet been in any, except my own, but I haven’t seen any with more than a handful of people—more often, none. Maybe I see them at the wrong time. A handful of happy children at a pool doesn’t seem like much of a problem, and I dare say they bring smiles and good memories to many of us.

Again, I understand you, as I’m quite a curmudgeon, but situations can be difficult, and it is also a blessing to have kids who want to visit. We have to make allowances for both the suffering and the pleasure of others.

[Tmarkwald]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

OK, so you've raised your family and want to enjoy your retirement. I get it. You don't want visitors.

[Tmarkwald]

My twin sons will be graduate students next year at UCF. They will be busy with their film careers. They will be here this summer. You won't see them and they won't see you. Live with it.

[lydia321]

Perhaps you haven’t noticed how many people over 55 get arrested for bad behavior. Spouse abuse. Drinking and driving. Hitting people on bicycles and leaving them for dead.

[FredJacobs]

I think you might have moved to the wrong community. We have several owners whose adult children and grandchildren live with them near our home and have not had any bad experiences with them. You can't ban children or grandchildren 19 or over from living here, you should have known that when your purchased, if not you didn't do your homework. As far as how long visitors can stay or rentals beyond 6 months, once again you didn't do your homework. You made your bed now you have to sleep in it or go find a new one and good luck with that.

Unless they changed the rules, when I moved in 10 years ago, there were rules regarding "children" under age 30. They had to use designated "Family Pools", could not stay in the community for more than 30 days, etc. The rules were rarely enforced unless someone complained.

[scottiesrgreat@gmail.com]

I moved here - not retired yet - still working from home. I thought I would be one of the ‘young ones’ :-) :-) but come to find out - we have several home owners (husband and wife) in their 40s. So instead of being a ‘young’ one - I am one of the older folks in the neighborhood. Also, I know of some older folks - really not that old maybe late 60s or early 70s - who live next door or very close to their children (maybe the parent bought the the home for their kids .... could be). I wish I knew there were ways to get around the “55+ rule” - back before I turned 55+. All I can say is - there must be a million ways to get around the 55+ *”rule”*. I know nothing is perfect - but golly, some may think I am weird - but, I would love to live in a 100% 55+ community (of course - I am all for those occasional, well behaved :-) younger visitors). :-)

[Ele201]

Yes, as long as they stay no more than the 30 days in total per year if they are under 19 ... all is good. Nice time to visit. I’m just wondering, what can be done if that rule is broken? What recourse is available if there are children staying beyond 30 days?

[bowlingal]

MGKW1 I agree with you 100%

[jbrown132]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

I’ll bet you at 9:00 PM there are a lot more 65+ year olds driving home hammered than there are younger people on the roads. I’ll also beat you that older people leaving Cane Garden, Palmer CC, or any of the other happy hours in TV could never pass a breathalyzer test. Remember “The Villages is a drinking place that has a golf problem”

[richs631]

we moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. Dui. Assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but i am at the age that i don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

stop reading that online rag. Its all negative villages.

[richs631]

The developer advertises The Villages as a gated and adult community. It isn’t. Lots of crime and drugs by adult children living here. We have good neighbors, no barking dogs or kids but know of bad situations elsewhere especially in the new section near Wildwood, one of the most dangerous cities in Florida.

You must not live in the villages. You sound like a jealous outsider spewing lies about the villages. And if you do live in the villages you JUST MOVE if it’s so bad

[G.R.I.T.S.]

I noticed that a lot of the people who get into trouble and still live with their parents are in their 40s and even 50s, it's not always the younger ones who live with parents

We refer to those as "loser kids."

[JanetMM]

Yeah...they don't play at the squares that often :1rotfl:

Haha. I see what you did there! I get it! The HOOLIGANS playing in the square. LOL
I do like the Hooligans though so they can play any time in the square

[Pdesensi]

Me too!

[Rzepecki]

First of all TV meets the requirements of a 55 and over community, gated or not gated has nothing to do with the OP. There are more crimes by those 55 and over than by the children of residents as well as drug use. I have no idea where you get your facts regarding bad situations especially in the new sections near Wildwood. I have lived in Fenney for nearly 4 years, we have very minimal criminal activity here, rarely is anything reported in that on-line news outlet in our area most of the reported crimes are in areas north of 44. The areas of Wildwood that occasionally have crimes reported are all north of 44 also, not down here in the "new section" as you call it. By the way, Wildwood is not one of the most dangerous cities in Florida, it is not even in the top 20.

Thank you for your response. I think Wildwood is a great little city, with much to offer and an interesting history - for those who are interested in learning about where they live.

[Joe C.]

You need to read both the Sun and the "online rag" in order to get some balanced news. One newspaper is the "Oh, look how good we are, aren't we just wonderful?" propaganda spreader, and the other one just mentions the losers who live in the Villages and surrounding area.
That said, those who abuse the Villages rules should be "put on notice".

[Girlcopper]

Or already are.


OP, Quit reading the online newspaper. They only point out the bad ones. You probably had the same ratio of troublemakers in your prior neighborhood.


I don't see that TV is overrun with young, noisy hooligans.


Geeze.:ohdear:
Correct. If anyone wants to live just with elderly theres plenty of nursing and assisted living facilities

[DAVES]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

Huh? Random police stops? Can you prove you are at least 55? If, not no trial. Line them up and shoot em. We could have some in cages at every village entrance.

[DAVES]

You must not live in the villages. You sound like a jealous outsider spewing lies about the villages. And if you do live in the villages you JUST MOVE if it’s so bad

A friend said they do not get better as they get older, they get worse. I'm far from a cockeyed optimist but some people look at a lawn and see only green. Others look at the same lawn and see only weeds.

[Topspinmo]

I think you might have moved to the wrong community. We have several owners whose adult children and grandchildren live with them near our home and have not had any bad experiences with them. You can't ban children or grandchildren 19 or over from living here, you should have known that when your purchased, if not you didn't do your homework. As far as how long visitors can stay or rentals beyond 6 months, once again you didn't do your homework. You made your bed now you have to sleep in it or go find a new one and good luck with that.

They can’t or won’t ban any children, even babies. They should stop the sales pitch it’s over 55 retirement community. Which is lie.

[rmd2]

I think you might have moved to the wrong community. We have several owners whose adult children and grandchildren live with them near our home and have not had any bad experiences with them. You can't ban children or grandchildren 19 or over from living here, you should have known that when your purchased, if not you didn't do your homework. As far as how long visitors can stay or rentals beyond 6 months, once again you didn't do your homework. You made your bed now you have to sleep in it or go find a new one and good luck with that.

You are wrong. The law does not state that we must allow 20% under age to live here. The law states that we cannot have over 20% under age and still be considered a retirement community. We could have NO one under 55 here. Many retirement communities right around us do not allow anyone under 55 to live there.
The developer has decided to allow the under age and felons to live here. I have never seen The Villages disclose the number or the ratio of under age 55 persons living here.

[doodles]

You should have checked out the rules before you bought a house here, over 19 can live with their parents. Only one person has to be over 50 to buy a house.
You never have to interact with children in a pool. There are family pools, over 30 pools and the sports pools are only for residents.
Restaurants and the squares are open to residents and nonresidents
It’s a beautiful place and offers so much, relax and enjoy

[PhyllisC]

Based on what you just posted, I think you would be miserable wherever you lived.

[tophcfa]

The Villages does indeed have children of all ages. I am in my early 60’s and am still trying to figure out what to do if I ever grow up! Hopefully that will never happen: )

[stanley]

So where is the OP? Another thread started just to stir up crap.

[graciegirl]

Many people like us have their retired children living with them. Our Helene retired from a long career at McDonalds, doesn't drink or smoke and doesn't use drugs of any kind. She has never been arrested and most of our friends like her better than us. She is 56 and her father and I are 39.

[cafw1]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement
I totally agree with you. Kids under age 19 are limited to how long they can stay in The Villages---report the offenders ---it's not a massive day care center here where kids can run around and illegally drive the grandparents golf carts. Who will be blamed and sued when there's an accident? There are lots of rules in The Villages---read Deed Restrictions! Report violations---it's not trolls who are reporting people ---it's your neighbors who are law abiders.

[Garywt]

I think everything has been said but to qualify for the 55+ community 80% of the homes need to have at least 1 person 55 or over. That means 20% of the homes can have young or younger owners, they just can’t have children under 19. People have been told to sell if they get guardianship of a younger grandchild. Of course like anything else hear, if a neighbor does not turn them in they might get away with it.

[MKDiva]

I expect there are more children here right now because so many public schools around the country are closed. Good time to come down and visit the grandparents, get out of the cold up north. Remote schooling can be done from grandma's guest room as easily as back home.

If the teachers ever agree to go back to work the kids will go home. This too shall pass.

kathy
I don’t appreciate your message about “if the teachers ever agree to go back to work.” Shame on YOU!! You obviously have NO idea what you’re talking about. Teachers are working harder than ever before!!!!
My sister is 58, has NOT been able to be vaccinated and is being forced to teach TWO classes per day!! One in person and one remote with different lesson plans for EACH class and more students NOW than EVER before for second grade with no social distancing in order to keep her job which she has worked for 30 years. So watch you say about teachers!!!

[retiredguy123]

I don’t appreciate your message about “if the teachers ever agree to go back to work.” Shame on YOU!! You obviously have NO idea what you’re talking about. Teachers are working harder than ever before!!!!
My sister is 58, has NOT been able to be vaccinated and is being forced to teach TWO classes per day!! One in person and one remote with different lesson plans for EACH class and more students NOW than EVER before for second grade with no social distancing in order to keep her job which she has worked for 30 years. So watch you say about teachers!!!
I disagree. I think the comment was entirely appropriate.

[Mhollowaygleasom]

Are you really that negative and intolerant? Glad you aren’t my neighbor!

[Villages Kahuna]

Too few people take the time to read this important document... much to their dismay!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Too few people take the time to read this important document... much to their dismay!

and too few officials take the time to enforce the rules their association created. Much to the dismay of everyone else.

[Velvet]

I’m just wondering, what can be done if that rule is broken? What recourse is available if there are children staying beyond 30 days?

Neighbors notice and they can take photos on their phones. The kids will be reported and rules are enforced. How do I know? I had my young daughters visit my parents here for years.

[Velvet]

and too few officials take the time to enforce the rules their association created. Much to the dismay of everyone else.

Don’t count on non-enforcement. Not in my experience. My parents lived in the historic area. We had to sell the house when my parents passed away because we could not bring the children for any significant time - 30 days a year did not work for us.

[njbchbum]

You are wrong. The law does not state that we must allow 20% under age to live here. The law states that we cannot have over 20% under age and still be considered a retirement community. We could have NO one under 55 here. Many retirement communities right around us do not allow anyone under 55 to live there.
The developer has decided to allow the under age and felons to live here. I have never seen The Villages disclose the number or the ratio of under age 55 persons living here.

You are not exactly correct on your %ages either. In brief - "At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person 55 years of age or older." Leading to the point that up to 20% of the occupied units may be occupied by persons under age 55. %ages are based on occupied units not on residents. You can find the law for 55+ Communities here Housing-55 & Older Communities — Florida Commission on Human Relations (https://fchr.myflorida.com/fchr55andolderhousing/?rq=55%2B%20community) It is a Villages reg that no one under the age of 19 may be a resident of the Villages.

And it is my guess that the office that administers Villages IDs knows the %ages since residents ages are part of that application. You would likely have to read legal notices in order to find the published requirements.

[njbchbum]

They can’t or won’t ban any children, even babies. They should stop the sales pitch it’s over 55 retirement community. Which is lie.

Not exactly. The Villages is legally a 55+ Community. Housing-55 & Older Communities — Florida Commission on Human Relations (https://fchr.myflorida.com/fchr55andolderhousing/?rq=55%2B%20community)

[Vikingjunior]

Some of you act like there is thousands of little kids running around TV terrorizing old folks. There may be a isolated incident here and there but don't act like there is some epidemic of kids in TV.

This issue or non issue is totally blown out of proportion. I swear people make up things to be outraged about.

[Topspinmo]

I don’t appreciate your message about “if the teachers ever agree to go back to work.” Shame on YOU!! You obviously have NO idea what you’re talking about. Teachers are working harder than ever before!!!!
My sister is 58, has NOT been able to be vaccinated and is being forced to teach TWO classes per day!! One in person and one remote with different lesson plans for EACH class and more students NOW than EVER before for second grade with no social distancing in order to keep her job which she has worked for 30 years. So watch you say about teachers!!!

Two classes? that about 45 minutes times two. What day.

[Topspinmo]

Some of you act like there is thousands of little kids running around TV terrorizing old folks. There may be a isolated incident here and there but don't act like there is some epidemic of kids in TV.

This issue or non issue is totally blown out of proportion. I swear people make up things to be outraged about.


Kids can be as old as 54, try online news to get the real picture and not daily fun.

[vintageogauge]

The Villages does indeed have children of all ages. I am in my early 60’s and am still trying to figure out what to do if I ever grow up! Hopefully that will never happen: )

It hits pretty hard right after 70.

[Velvet]

Some of you act like there is thousands of little kids running around TV terrorizing old folks. There may be a isolated incident here and there but don't act like there is some epidemic of kids in TV.

This issue or non issue is totally blown out of proportion. I swear people make up things to be outraged about.

Children are fine for a maximum of 30 days a year. People should not complain for less time than that. It’s nice to see grand kids play.

[New Adventures]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

Wow! I can't believe that these children are so terrible! Do you have a dog? Do you let him/her pee all over someone else's lawn? Now that's horrible! Gosh! get a life before it's too late! It's what you do with your life and how you treat others will be how you are judged.
Move on or move out! Leave the kids alone!

[kathyspear]

I don’t appreciate your message about “if the teachers ever agree to go back to work.” Shame on YOU!! You obviously have NO idea what you’re talking about. Teachers are working harder than ever before!!!!
My sister is 58, has NOT been able to be vaccinated and is being forced to teach TWO classes per day!! One in person and one remote with different lesson plans for EACH class and more students NOW than EVER before for second grade with no social distancing in order to keep her job which she has worked for 30 years. So watch you say about teachers!!!

I couldn't care less whether or not you appreciate my message. WATCH WHAT I SAY ??? Seriously?? Who died and made you God? I have several teachers in my own family and that doesn't change the fact that half the teachers in this country should be fired, just like the air traffic controllers who refused to do their job.

k.

[Garywt]

Two classes? that about 45 minutes times two. What day.

People pick on teachers but for my grandson, his first class is 4 hours so that means the teachers morning is about 5.5 hours. He comes home for lunch and his online afternoon class is shorter but that is more time. Now add in the class prep and correcting papers etc and it is a full day COVID or not. To take it a step further, check there paycheck out and dealing with some kids these days and it is a thankless job for many.

[Garywt]

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

Just wanted to talk about pools. If you go to neighborhood pools the rules are no one under 30 ever. Under 30 need to go to the family pools. As for guests I never know who they are. The come in with residents and need to carry a guest pass that the residents need to get for them. With all this the pools should not be an issue and if it is when they come around to check for passes it should be handles.

[PugMom]

Very rare that young people get into trouble and for some reason the local paper thinks it should be a headline.

All of young people we have seen around here are well behaved.

thank you, Stu, my daughter is here only because her grad school was closed a year ago, & life was put on hold. she's a Rush-baby, works hard, never got in trouble & is very well liked by our neighborhood due to the fact she is always helping out if they need it, doing chores, pet-sitting & involved in community events. when the lockdown is over, she will be on her way back to her 'normal' life & will be greatly missed, most of all by me

[Tmarkwald]

I don’t appreciate your message about “if the teachers ever agree to go back to work.” Shame on YOU!! You obviously have NO idea what you’re talking about. Teachers are working harder than ever before!!!!
My sister is 58, has NOT been able to be vaccinated and is being forced to teach TWO classes per day!! One in person and one remote with different lesson plans for EACH class and more students NOW than EVER before for second grade with no social distancing in order to keep her job which she has worked for 30 years. So watch you say about teachers!!!

Well, when I see teachers complaining about going back to work because of the health aspect, yet they are posting pictures from the Bahamas, I think we all have issues.

There are a significant number of teachers who are refusing to go back to school simply because they can get away with doing nothing. Parents have become the teachers, but the teachers get the paycheck for it.

Every situation is different, I know....

[njbchbum]

Well, when I see teachers complaining about going back to work because of the health aspect, yet they are posting pictures from the Bahamas, I think we all have issues.

There are a significant number of teachers who are refusing to go back to school simply because they can get away with doing nothing. Parents have become the teachers, but the teachers get the paycheck for it.

Every situation is different, I know....

Now that teachers are being prioritized for the vaccine shot[s], I hope the media reports on the number of them who are refusing to be vaccinated!

[macawlaw]

I'm glad that we are not neighbors! Do you know how I know? My neighbors like my children. My husband and I are not yet retired, so we are only in TV periodically. My daughter is a college student and her dad is a college professor. When Covid hit, they went to TV to finish the academic year and quarantine. We bought in February and lockdown started in March. DD was 19. My son and I remained in Ohio. I'm considered an essential worker and he was 16 and cannot stay in TV for more that 30 days a year, and we follow the rules.

Thank heavens my DD didn't live near you. Everyone she met was lovely. In fact, they ask about her when we come down without her. Our son has been there less because of the age restrictions. However, as a pickleball player, he is well-accepted on the courts and players will ask DH where his son is.

The rudest people I have met in TV have been older adults. Were you the ones who demanded that I show my pass to you at the pool? Went inside to find the attendant when I politely declined your request? Looked over her shoulder and said that it didn't look like me because my hair was different (surprise-it was wet at the pool!)? Moved down to the end of the row and glared at me after the attendant let me stay? I'm wondering. That seems to be your attitude.

If I'm ever out with my two and you're nearby, please just give a signal. We will be happy to cross to the other side of the street so as not to bother you now that you are retired and want to enjoy life. However, you have no right to keep us from enjoying ours.

[Stu from NYC]

thank you, Stu, my daughter is here only because her grad school was closed a year ago, & life was put on hold. she's a Rush-baby, works hard, never got in trouble & is very well liked by our neighborhood due to the fact she is always helping out if they need it, doing chores, pet-sitting & involved in community events. when the lockdown is over, she will be on her way back to her 'normal' life & will be greatly missed, most of all by me

Our kids and grandkids (7 and 9) came in December for two weeks. We all had a ball together and will admit they made some noise early evening riding their scooters.

Happily for us we live in a very friendly block and so many neighbors said so nice to see young kids here.

[Tmarkwald]

i'm glad that we are not neighbors! Do you know how i know? My neighbors like my children. My husband and i are not yet retired, so we are only in tv periodically. My daughter is a college student and her dad is a college professor. When covid hit, they went to tv to finish the academic year and quarantine. We bought in february and lockdown started in march. Dd was 19. My son and i remained in ohio. I'm considered an essential worker and he was 16 and cannot stay in tv for more that 30 days a year, and we follow the rules.

Thank heavens my dd didn't live near you. Everyone she met was lovely. In fact, they ask about her when we come down without her. Our son has been there less because of the age restrictions. However, as a pickleball player, he is well-accepted on the courts and players will ask dh where his son is.

The rudest people i have met in tv have been older adults. Were you the ones who demanded that i show my pass to you at the pool? Went inside to find the attendant when i politely declined your request? Looked over her shoulder and said that it didn't look like me because my hair was different (surprise-it was wet at the pool!)? Moved down to the end of the row and glared at me after the attendant let me stay? I'm wondering. That seems to be your attitude.

If i'm ever out with my two and you're nearby, please just give a signal. We will be happy to cross to the other side of the street so as not to bother you now that you are retired and want to enjoy life. However, you have no right to keep us from enjoying ours.

bravo!!

[Stu from NYC]

The rudest people I have met in TV have been older adults. Were you the ones who demanded that I show my pass to you at the pool? Went inside to find the attendant when I politely declined your request? Looked over her shoulder and said that it didn't look like me because my hair was different (surprise-it was wet at the pool!)? Moved down to the end of the row and glared at me after the attendant let me stay? I'm wondering. That seems to be your attitude.

If I'm ever out with my two and you're nearby, please just give a signal. We will be happy to cross to the other side of the street so as not to bother you now that you are retired and want to enjoy life. However, you have no right to keep us from enjoying ours.

Wow could have had a lot of fun with her starting with asking for her pass and saying she looks much older than the picture.

[manaboutown]

The rudest people I have met in TV have been older adults. Were you the ones who demanded that I show my pass to you at the pool? Went inside to find the attendant when I politely declined your request? Looked over her shoulder and said that it didn't look like me because my hair was different (surprise-it was wet at the pool!)? Moved down to the end of the row and glared at me after the attendant let me stay? I'm wondering. That seems to be your attitude.

Several years ago friends of mine moved into a 55 and over community where one spouse had to be 55 or more. He had just turned 55; she is a year or two younger than him. They were very physically active (she had done triathlons in her mid 40s) and so swam hard. Grouchy older women would ask to see her ID and complained about their splashing, even though lap swimming was allowed and the pool was set up for it.

Way back when I was in college I learned when confronted by some "civilian" who had no authority to just ask them "Who are you?''' That has usually stopped them in their tracks with a blank look on their face.

[macawlaw]

Way back when I was in college I learned when confronted by some "civilian" who had no authority to just ask them "Who are you?''' That has usually stopped them in their tracks with a blank look on their face.

I'll have to remember that one. I did not show the grumps my pass. I introduced myself and tried to start a conversation. They didn't respond and went to look for the employee to check my pass. As she had a right to ask to see it, I showed it to her.

Overall, people have been warm and welcoming. We are looking forward to the time when we can spend more time at TV and get to know more people.

[BaileyMom]

If you want to retire in a community where it truly is for 55 and older and not open to residents’ younger family members, you should consider Dell Webb. They restrict pool hours and other activities for non residents to about an hour and a half daily. We love that The Villages welcomes family members and guests of all ages. It helps keep us young at heart!

We moved here to be in a 55+ community. I realize children in college or even just out of school need a place to live. My issue is with the children of all ages that abuse the generosity of their parents. How many time do we hear of these children of villagers being arrested for abuse. dui. assault. I say ban them from living in the villages. And as for the kindhearted grandparents that are raising their grandchildren. Please move to a family community. I know this is going to upset people but I am at the age that I don't care anymore. Most age restricted places limit the amount of time you can have visitors. Some do not allow rentals past 6 months. They limit non resident pool time to 10 am to noon. I have raised my family and want to enjoy my retirement

[mgkw1]

Your daughter sounds like a responsible adult and is NOT one of the children I was thinking about. I am talking about the ones that dont want to work, live of parents social security and cause trouble and bring trouble. If you have a handicapped child They are also welcome. My complaint is with the percent of "children" that should have been kicked out of the nest years ago.

[Stu from NYC]

Your daughter sounds like a responsible adult and is NOT one of the children I was thinking about. I am talking about the ones that dont want to work, live of parents social security and cause trouble and bring trouble. If you have a handicapped child They are also welcome. My complaint is with the percent of "children" that should have been kicked out of the nest years ago.

You might want to quote the person you are answering so we know which post you are referring to.