State bill to limit impact fees introduced

[Toymeister]

Villages employee/lawmaker wants to help his employer - Orlando Sentinel (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-the-villages-taxes-impact-fees-conflict-20210316-32srqsxypzep3kn554babisukm-story.html)

Apparently there are no ethical standards in the Florida State government.

[dewilson58]

Old News.
Other threads.
Article not accurate.

Bill has been amended.

[Toymeister]

Clearer title which will serve better to get the news out. If you have a link to the amendment post it.

Edit:. Here is the link: CS/HB 337 (2021) - Impact Fees | Florida House of Representatives (https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=70442&)

Contained within the amendment are details which continue the actions of the Morse empire to limit impact fees.

Spirit of the article is accurate as it relates to the limiting the ability of local Governments to increase impact fees.

[njbchbum]

Villages employee/lawmaker wants to help his employer - Orlando Sentinel (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-the-villages-taxes-impact-fees-conflict-20210316-32srqsxypzep3kn554babisukm-story.html)

Apparently there are no ethical standards in the Florida State government.

Does the bill sponsor still work for that employer"
Do the sponsor's assets still remain in the the trust?
Are there yearly disclosure filings available for review subsequent to the article's 2019 statement discussed there?
Does the bill zero in on the developer of the Villages or all developers?

[tophcfa]

As someone who has volunteered on various boards and committees up north, I was required to take a course every three years on conflict of interests. This screams out as a classic example.

[Stu from NYC]

As someone who has volunteered on various boards and committees up north, I was required to take a course every three years on conflict of interests. This screams out as a classic example.

Agreed and he should be subject to a recall if allowed in Florida

[New Englander]

I sent him an Email but to my big surprise I didn't get a reply.

[gweisheipl]

Villages employee/lawmaker wants to help his employer - Orlando Sentinel (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-the-villages-taxes-impact-fees-conflict-20210316-32srqsxypzep3kn554babisukm-story.html)

Apparently there are no ethical standards in the Florida State government.
No discussion on how impact fees negatively effect growth - Not one single word! Not one word about the cost of commercial impact fees. Not one word about how much UF Health would pay to build a new hospital. Focus: California; Can Impact Fees Stunt a Town'''s Growth? - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/04/realestate/focus-california-can-impact-fees-stunt-a-town-s-growth.html)

[Linnberg]

No discussion on how impact fees negatively effect growth - Not one single word! Not one word about the cost of commercial impact fees. Not one word about how much UF Health would pay to build a new hospital. Focus: California; Can Impact Fees Stunt a Town'''s Growth? - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/04/realestate/focus-california-can-impact-fees-stunt-a-town-s-growth.html)

It turns out the new UF Hospital will be in Lake
County not Sumter and
The President of UF Shands did not know which county
It was. He stayed away from impact politics but did say they will need money to build so it sure does not look like it’s anywhere close to definite.

[LoisR]

Welcome to Florida politics where residents pay for roads and improvements to land, poor schools, homeless families abound, former governor bilked the govt out of $300+ million in Medicare payments. Oh well, at least the sun shine is free, so far.

[Marykschulz]

Hmmmmm, wonder why the local Villages newspaper hasn’t mentioned anything about this conflict of interest? 😂

[Stu from NYC]

It turns out the new UF Hospital will be in Lake
County not Sumter and
The President of UF Shands did not know which county
It was. He stayed away from impact politics but did say they will need money to build so it sure does not look like it’s anywhere close to definite.

Very interesting.

The developers paper has an interesting slant on things, if it helps the developer it must be true.

[DIver0258]

We are let the legislators do what they do. Apparently everyone feels the situation is only in Sumter county. Keep your eye on the ball. This has been business as usual all over our nation, from the local level to Washington.

[jjombrello]

Be wary of the bias, seeing as this came from The Orlando Sentine.

[Advogado]

No discussion on how impact fees negatively effect growth - Not one single word! Not one word about the cost of commercial impact fees. Not one word about how much UF Health would pay to build a new hospital. Focus: California; Can Impact Fees Stunt a Town'''s Growth? - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/04/realestate/focus-california-can-impact-fees-stunt-a-town-s-growth.html)

It is important to note that there would be no increase in taxes. The increase in impact fees would be offset by a reduction in property taxes-- a break for existing businesses. Future commercial construction would depreciate the higher impact fees over the life of the building, and as noted, they would be offset by lower property taxes. Future business will not be deterred.

The Daily Sun articles are propaganda, written by the Developer's Minister of Propaganda, David R. Corder.

[Advogado]

Be wary of the bias, seeing as this came from The Orlando Sentine.

Be ware of criticism of the article that do not cite any factual misstatements.

[Advogado]

Old News.
Other threads.
Article not accurate.

Bill has been amended.

New news.

Ethical issue not thoroughly explored in other threads.

Article accurate.

Yeah, the Bill has been amended, but the Developer is still getting the protection he asked Hage to get him.

Ask your self what the situation would be had the Developer handed Hage $140,000 in a brown enveloper instead of putting him on the payroll. Is this really different? That is what the original poster is asking.

[Advogado]

Does the bill sponsor still work for that employer"
Do the sponsor's assets still remain in the the trust?
Are there yearly disclosure filings available for review subsequent to the article's 2019 statement discussed there?
Does the bill zero in on the developer of the Villages or all developers?

Perhaps Mr. Hage will come forward with the answers to your questions. He clearly still works for T&D, a major supplier of the Developer. That, alone, is reason enough why he should have recused himself from any involvement in the proposed legislation

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Villages employee/lawmaker wants to help his employer - Orlando Sentinel (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-the-villages-taxes-impact-fees-conflict-20210316-32srqsxypzep3kn554babisukm-story.html)

Apparently there are no ethical standards in the Florida State government.

Yes, laws in Florida have repeatedly made living here horrible. AND we aren't etical.🙄

[Stu from NYC]

Perhaps Mr. Hage will come forward with the answers to your questions. He clearly still works for T&D, a major supplier of the Developer. That, alone, is reason enough why he should have recused himself from any involvement in the proposed legislation

If he did recluse himself he developer would probably have decided what am I paying this guy for and shown him the exit.

[EviesGP]

I have lost count on how many articles have been written in The Daily Propaganda paper, on this issue, ALL ONE SIDED. Of course, this 'issue' is supposedly about 'tax increases'?! Obviously, it is not, but wait? I arrived in TV right about the time that the TWENTY FIVE PERCENT tax increase was introduced. It was sold(and laughed off) by the Commissioners, and I did NOT see one article on what a 25% tax increase would have on development(economy), etc? Hmmmmm?

[Stu from NYC]

I have lost count on how many articles have been written in The Daily Propaganda paper, on this issue, ALL ONE SIDED. Of course, this 'issue' is supposedly about 'tax increases'?! Obviously, it is not, but wait? I arrived in TV right about the time that the TWENTY FIVE PERCENT tax increase was introduced. It was sold(and laughed off) by the Commissioners, and I did NOT see one article on what a 25% tax increase would have on development(economy), etc? Hmmmmm?

The Sun seems to have a motto they work under.

If good for the developer it is published if not we are not aware of the info.

Perhaps if they had a living breathing editor who was allowed to publish the news without the slant we would all have a bit of respect for the content.

[Advogado]

Villages employee/lawmaker wants to help his employer - Orlando Sentinel (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-the-villages-taxes-impact-fees-conflict-20210316-32srqsxypzep3kn554babisukm-story.html)

Apparently there are no ethical standards in the Florida State government.

http://www.ethics.state.fl.us/Documents/Forms/Complaint%20Form.PDF?cp=2020913