"Exhausted defending the President"

[Guest]

Has anyone seen this Town Hall meeting where this woman tells the President she is tired of defending the President in light of deteriorating economic reality? I think it's hilarious!!
You can also click on the President's response at this link and see if it comforts you.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/09/20/cnbc_town_hall_questioner_to_obama_im_exhausted_of _defending_you.html

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Here's what scares, makes me mad, frustrates me...I don't know the correct words. Maybe dumbfounds me is what I'm looking for. When Obama said, "The life you described; one of responsibility, looking after your family, contributing back to your community that is one we want to reward."

That is what he wants to reward? Excuse me.

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Here's what scares, makes me mad, frustrates me...I don't know the correct words. Maybe dumbfounds me is what I'm looking for. When Obama said, "The life you described; one of responsibility, looking after your family, contributing back to your community that is one we want to reward."

That is what he wants to reward? Excuse me.

Unless I completely miss your point, this comment is more cynical than any of yours I've ever read. Instead of all the suspicion and trying to find some awful hidden meaning, why not just read the words for what they say?

The comment was in the context of the recession being declared 'over', and the woman still being frustrated by slow employment recovery. The President simply said that the kind of personal qualities this person exhibits are the stuff America is made of (my words) and the kind of attitude and effort the government considers most valuable and wishes to nurture and support. Support comes from things like extended unemployment benefits, tax incentives to businesses to hire and expand, access to health care, etc.
(Sorry it took me so many words to express what seems a simple thought.)

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Unless I completely miss your point, this comment is more cynical than any of yours I've ever read. Instead of all the suspicion and trying to find some awful hidden meaning, why not just read the words for what they say?

The comment was in the context of the recession being declared 'over', and the woman still being frustrated by slow employment recovery. The President simply said that the kind of personal qualities this person exhibits are the stuff America is made of (my words) and the kind of attitude and effort the government considers most valuable and wishes to nurture and support. Support comes from things like extended unemployment benefits, tax incentives to businesses to hire and expand, access to health care, etc.
(Sorry it took me so many words to express what seems a simple thought.)

I didn't think he'd come back with anything.

[Guest]

Vice president joe biden just said he is second in line to the presidency, who is first?

[Guest]

Vice president joe biden just said he is second in line to the presidency, who is first?

ever been married?

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In my eyes and to my ears this woman expressed her frustration with waiting for promises unfullfilled and unrealized, and wondering how much more her family had to endure in waiting for this utopia unrealized. The Presidents response was smoke and mirrors and had nothing to actually ease this woman's real concerns. It was a classic Obama farce. To get anything else out of the exchange, to me, rather naive.

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In my eyes and to my ears this woman expressed her frustration with waiting for promises unfullfilled and unrealized, and wondering how much more her family had to endure in waiting for this utopia unrealized.


I thought you were talking about me there for a minute.

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In my eyes and to my ears this woman expressed her frustration with waiting for promises unfullfilled and unrealized, and wondering how much more her family had to endure in waiting for this utopia unrealized. The Presidents response was smoke and mirrors and had nothing to actually ease this woman's real concerns. It was a classic Obama farce. To get anything else out of the exchange, to me, rather naive.

OK. Drop your totally biased, completely negative attitude toward the President for a moment.
Make believe you are in his shoes. Tell me what you would say to this woman. Go ahead. Make it genuine, meaningful and even consoling if you can. You've even got the advantage of time to reflect......

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OK. Drop your totally biased, completely negative attitude toward the President for a moment.
Make believe you are in his shoes. Tell me what you would say to this woman. Go ahead. Make it genuine, meaningful and even consoling if you can. You've even got the advantage of time to reflect......

If I were a speech writer, then I would craft a speech that met your challenge. I am not. Since that is true, I would make the following points in the answer to her:

1. This recovery is still fragile and we do not want to go into a double dip. Therefore I will support extending the Bush tax cuts for another five years.

2. I would say that we are going to cut government expenditures in every agency and start to reign in entitlement programs and eliminate every program that places an unfunded mandate upon the states.

3. I would say, correctly, that we have put in needed financial reforms - but recognize that some have gone too far including the 1099 reporting regulations.

4. I would be honest with the American people and say that taxes on companies that are supposed to save money for employees and consumers not only do not work but discourage research, development and manufacturing within the United States- and that I would introduce legislation to eliminate them.

This is what I would say in order to be honest with the American people.I leave it up to you for the consoling words. If it were me, I would say something similar to what Sir Winston Churchill said upon assuming the duties of Prime Minister ..."I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat." Climbing out of the hole we have dug ourselves into - energy dependence, balance of trade, budget deficits, etc will require sacrifice by all Americans. It is better to start today than after the ..... election. I hope that the American people do not need to be consoled but rather rise to the challenge of securing the future for posterity.

[Guest]

Has anyone seen this Town Hall meeting where this woman tells the President she is tired of defending the President in light of deteriorating economic reality? I think it's hilarious!!
You can also click on the President's response at this link and see if it comforts you.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/09/20/cnbc_town_hall_questioner_to_obama_im_exhausted_of _defending_you.html

Obama made a grammatical boo boo when saying Even if I was purple"
Should have been Even if I were purple. Guess no teleprompter available....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJF9Gb3dGbc&feature=related
islandgal (English major)

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or start something....and does not know the impact of what he is doing or not doing he of course is not leading and is relying on trial and error. And since he has surrounded himself with like or lessor in capacity than he is....no added value there either.
The answer is he is not a leader.
His words and his actions every single day do no more than confirm he does nothing unless it is for political gain. He will continue to play safe and flail back and forth with opinions and popularity to suit the moment or the audience. He maintains the blame the other guy for lack of progress....because he does not know enough about anything to take on the responsibility.
He is very consistent in his lack of leadership ability.
As an executive he would not have made it one year in corporate America with this kind of non-performance.

btk

[Guest]

OK. Drop your totally biased, completely negative attitude toward the President for a moment.
Make believe you are in his shoes. Tell me what you would say to this woman. Go ahead. Make it genuine, meaningful and even consoling if you can. You've even got the advantage of time to reflect......

Besides all the good points that BBQ made, he could say to this woman "Yes, you're concerns are good ones and I indeed have blown it with all this ill-advised out of control spending and corporate micro management. So, in the short term I'll be extending the Bush tax cuts, and not one to overlook a good thing, will be expanding them. I also will be eliminating capital gains taxes for 2 years and then re-evaluate them at that time in order to stimulate rapid growth in the private sector"

How's that for a start?

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Besides all the good points that BBQ made, he could say to this woman "Yes, you're concerns are good ones and I indeed have blown it with all this ill-advised out of control spending and corporate micro management. So, in the short term I'll be extending the Bush tax cuts, and not one to overlook a good thing, will be expanding them. I also will be eliminating capital gains taxes for 2 years and then re-evaluate them at that time in order to stimulate rapid growth in the private sector"

How's that for a start?

ok, let's adopt the Republican program, even though that program led us to the worst financial calamity since the 30's. That's a good one.

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Besides all the good points that BBQ made, he could say to this woman "Yes, you're concerns are good ones and I indeed have blown it with all this ill-advised out of control spending and corporate micro management. So, in the short term I'll be extending the Bush tax cuts, and not one to overlook a good thing, will be expanding them. I also will be eliminating capital gains taxes for 2 years and then re-evaluate them at that time in order to stimulate rapid growth in the private sector"

How's that for a start?

It would have been a terrible scene. The woman breaking down and hysterically crying out,

"No!!!! I'm a little frustrated, but I know it's going to take longer for employment to catch up with the the other improvements in the economy. Pleeeease don't give up on the path which has worked thus far, just because there are some loud people out there, (who have also benefitted from, and will continue to benefit from those actions in the future), who just like to complain and criticize. Their formulas are not magic, and you are already taking the best elements and incorporating them in your programs. NOBODY would even be remotely suggesting that the recession was over were it not for the legislation and other steps pushed by the administration in eighteen short months. I realize you could have been wishy-washy and tried to please everyone, but you've had the courage to say and do the things that have to be said and done to get us out of this mess. Instead of hearing nothing but 'no', I say 'yes', stay the course, and thank you Mr. President"

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administration record breaking whopping extrapolation:

"that program led us to the worst financial calamity since the 30's"

It is the single solitary culprit that "LED" the way.

With such an assessment now we know all we have to do is cancel or not renew those programs and that will most certainly LEAD back to prosperity.

And as the saying goes if you buy that I got two more for ya!!!!!!:a040:

btk

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ok, let's adopt the Republican program, even though that program led us to the worst financial calamity since the 30's. That's a good one.


Why is it that liberals tend to forget that the last two years Bush was president the dems controlled the house and senate but only point fingers one way?

One of the best analysis of this economic situation I have read said it started with changes incorporated under Bill Clinton and was furthered by subsequent failures by BOTH sides of the aisle in DC.

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Why is it that liberals tend to forget that the last two years Bush was president the dems controlled the house and senate but only point fingers one way?

One of the best analysis of this economic situation I have read said it started with changes incorporated under Bill Clinton and was furthered by subsequent failures by BOTH sides of the aisle in DC.

Let's not also forget that pesky little matter of 9/11 and the subsequent expenditures for national security that Bush had to absorb during his Presidency.

BTW, when is the Congress going to pass a budget for this year ?

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This very subject portrays the disregard for measuring what they do/don't do. There fore with no measuring stick one just SPENDS. What would happen in American households if today we were advised there was no way of tracking check book balances, but don't worry, just keep spending for what ever you think you need?
Far fetched example? Not one bit.

It was openly announced earlier this year and again later this summer, the subject of budgeting will be delayed as it contains so much embarassment (spending) the Dems did not want to deal with it prior to elections.
Once again, the me first rule takes precedent over doing the elected job.

Throw the bums out. Re-elect no one. (that works for both parties!!!!).

btk

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This very subject portrays the disregard for measuring what they do/don't do. There fore with no measuring stick one just SPENDS. What would happen in American households if today we were advised there was no way of tracking check book balances, but don't worry, just keep spending for what ever you think you need?
Far fetched example? Not one bit.

It was openly announced earlier this year and again later this summer, the subject of budgeting will be delayed as it contains so much embarassment (spending) the Dems did not want to deal with it prior to elections.
Once again, the me first rule takes precedent over doing the elected job.

Throw the bums out. Re-elect no one. (that works for both parties!!!!).

btk

:BigApplause:btk, you hit the nail right on the head!!:BigApplause:

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ok, let's adopt the Republican program, even though that program led us to the worst financial calamity since the 30's. That's a good one.In 2007 the Dems took control of The House and The Senate. Any role they might have contributed???? such as Dodd and Frank? Gotta own that one.

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:BigApplause:btk, you hit the nail right on the head!!:BigApplause:

This very subject portrays the disregard for measuring what they do/don't do. There fore with no measuring stick one just SPENDS. What would happen in American households if today we were advised there was no way of tracking check book balances, but don't worry, just keep spending for what ever you think you need?
Far fetched example? Not one bit.

It was openly announced earlier this year and again later this summer, the subject of budgeting will be delayed as it contains so much embarassment (spending) the Dems did not want to deal with it prior to elections.
Once again, the me first rule takes precedent over doing the elected job.

Throw the bums out. Re-elect no one. (that works for both parties!!!!).

btk

The independent Tea Party Activists and followers are changing the face of the Republican Party, and in November this changing Republican Party will hopefully take America back from the big government socialists who have her in a death grip. The majority will not be silent any longer.

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The independent Tea Party Activists and followers are changing the face of the Republican Party, and in November this changing Republican Party will hopefully take America back from the big government socialists who have her in a death grip. The majority will not be silent any longer.

but the majority are the 70-80% who are too busy working, etc, to go around ranting and raving about the nonsense you read about on internet political forums. These are people who are mainly centrists who want both parties to concentrate on the people's business. They are most assuredly not tea party activists, you know the ones who practiced witchcraft in their earlier lives.

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but the majority are the 70-80% who are too busy working, etc, to go around ranting and raving about the nonsense you read about on internet political forums. These are people who are mainly centrists who want both parties to concentrate on the people's business. They are most assuredly not tea party activists, you know the ones who practiced witchcraft in their earlier lives.

True AND funny!! Just what this thread needs.:wave:

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but the majority are the 70-80% who are too busy working, etc, to go around ranting and raving about the nonsense you read about on internet political forums. These are people who are mainly centrists who want both parties to concentrate on the people's business. They are most assuredly not tea party activists, you know the ones who practiced witchcraft in their earlier lives.


I will not either defend or go after any person as you have obviously set your sights on this young lady in Delaware. HOWEVER, consider that those who may be on the other side are sitting with much information and slander for those on the left that you seem to defend without any thought.

I dont think your party wants to get into that kind of mud slinging, especially on a forum such as this (now the mainstream media is a different story), but if you want to engage in that type of thing, please keep it up..it shows where you are coming from.

Folks on here DO criticize elected officials and their backgrounds (not sure if they go as far back as high school as you favor) but they at least will intertwine it with POLICY and ISSUES. Yours is just plain personal !

I would also caution you about the generalization you use to throw ALL "tea party" folks into witch craft advocates. You said "They are most assuredly not tea party activists, you know the ones who practiced witchcraft in their earlier lives.[/quote] That same generalization you use could throw all Democrats into a Charlie Rangel. or even post about her opponent who has a few questionable but explainable quotes in his past.

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If i have to choose between the witch and the marxist, I will vote for the witch.

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a little sense of humor. I'm just poking fun.

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to make their polarized point.
The assignation of what they view is so school yard level ranting it is almost funny.
There just is not room for an opposition in their way of life.
There is no deviation from the party poridge that is doled out each day.

Resist....denigrate....down play....redefine....sling mud.

Such generalization and rambling is so ineffective...and lame

We'll see in November if only 20% show up to take back America.

btk

[Guest]

but the majority are the 70-80% who are too busy working, etc, to go around ranting and raving about the nonsense you read about on internet political forums. These are people who are mainly centrists who want both parties to concentrate on the people's business. They are most assuredly not tea party activists, you know the ones who practiced witchcraft in their earlier lives.

I'm hoping all the Libs keep on believing the myth of a moderate electorate. The conservative majority is energized while the liberal minority is downcast. The result of this, I'm sure, you will not find amusing.

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I'm hoping all the Libs keep on believing the myth of a moderate electorate. The conservative majority is energized while the liberal minority is downcast. The result of this, I'm sure, you will not find amusing.

most Americans are neither very liberal nor very conservative. The majority are centrists who are fed up with the extremist rhetoric on both sides. Now I do believe that one side may be more motivated to go to the polls this year and that will determine the outcome of many races.

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Hope is alive.

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Hope is alive.

in Deleware, Christine O'Donnell, aka The Sorcerers Apprentice, is behind by 16 points in the latest poll.

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in Deleware, Christine O'Donnell, aka The Sorcerers Apprentice, is behind by 16 points in the latest poll.


Do you live in Delaware ? You seem almost obsessed with that race !!!

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Do you live in Delaware ? You seem almost obsessed with that race !!!

Actor is obsessed with conservative woman who have a position of power. Read through some of Actor's posts. I think it scares Actor but it comes off as sexist.

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Do you live in Delaware ? You seem almost obsessed with that race !!!

in The Villages.

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Actor is obsessed with conservative woman who have a position of power. Read through some of Actor's posts. I think it scares Actor but it comes off as sexist.

Margaret Thatcher and she's pretty conservative.

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in Deleware, Christine O'Donnell, aka The Sorcerers Apprentice, is behind by 16 points in the latest poll.

So was Angle far behind Reid at the beginning and now she's pulled ahead and looking like the winner in November possibly. Keep tuned to Delaware; you're gonna be stunned I bet. The witch or the marxist? hmmmmmmm....

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So was Angle far behind Reid at the beginning and now she's pulled ahead and looking like the winner in November possibly. Keep tuned to Delaware; you're gonna be stunned I bet. The witch or the marxist? hmmmmmmm....

bad as The Sorcerers Apprentice. She's the candidate who encouraged patients to barter to lower their healthcare costs, pining for the days when her grandparents brought chicks to their doctors, and other gaffes too numerous to mention. However, it would not bother me at all if Christine Whitman and Carly Fiorina both win in California.

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bad as The Sorcerers Apprentice. She's the candidate who encouraged patients to barter to lower their healthcare costs, pining for the days when her grandparents brought chicks to their doctors, and other gaffes too numerous to mention. However, it would not bother me at all if Christine Whitman and Carly Fiorina both win in California.

That would be Meg Whitman you're referring to.

You really tickle me; I hope most Libs think like you.

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That would be Meg Whitman you're referring to.

You really tickle me; I hope most Libs think like you.

thanks for the brilliant comeback. You're so intelligent. I could also tell you that you're a condescending ------- , but I'll take the high road.

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As Crist and Rubio here in FL. Good examples of each direction. Crist once upon a time had the lead (before he jumped parties) and Rubio was trailing by double digits.
Crist is now all but out of it. Rubio is ahead by almost double digits.

Odonnel needs to be able to hold her own with the media and the WH spin doctors.

I always find it amusing when those who spew negative events from one's past 20, 30 or more years ago seem to follow and act as one for one amplifiers of the media or party issued talking points. Very parrot like.

What Odonnel did or did not do 20 + years ago matters about as much as Bill Clinton's comments on pot......yes, I did not inhale.

The real issue? Is she a better candidate than the establishment she is running against? Can she do the job? All one has to possess is the ability to have the potential to do the job. And she most certainly does have it.

We will see what November brings.

btk