Why are Snowbirds so despised? [Archive] - Page 2

JMintzer

07-09-2021, 07:20 PM

Adding to your comments the Snow birds also have a completely different attitude than the full time people. In our 3 years here as full timers, I have found that there is a completely different attitude in the summer than the winter. People are more pleasant, relaxed, and polite in the summer. In the winter I have found people to act rushed, impolite, and generally have a feeling of entitlement. They are here for short time fun and consider themselves better than the full time residents. Seems like they are just here to take what they need with no sense of commitment since they will be gone soon.
As for the comment about being jealous about not having a second home, no thanks, I don’t want the expense and work required to maintain one.

No offense, but it sounds like you consider yourself better than the snowbirds...

JMintzer

07-09-2021, 07:27 PM

Snowbirds are not despised as long as they have skin in the game (ie:actually own and come down for months in the winter) It is the daily, weekly, monthly renters that are despised. They aren't snowbirds, they are tourists.

So we were to be "despised" when we rented for 2 months this past Winter, before deciding to purchase a home?

Good to know...

Funny, everyone we met couldn't have been nicer when we told them we were renting and looking for a home. They gave us helpful advice about what to look for, what to avoid...

I guess I didn't meet you...

Becca9800

07-09-2021, 07:29 PM

Seems like they are just here to take what they need with no sense of commitment since they will be gone soon.

You surely mean no commitment other than the initial down payment, and the monthly mortgage, amenity and utility payments, and the annual homeowner's insurance and property tax payments, right? Let's not forget the risk of investing our money in a TV property. You didn't mean those costs in your "take what they need with no sense of commitment" comment, did you? I'm sure those facts weren't even a consideration in your determination. It's ok, no worries, please keep the hate going.

Becca9800

07-09-2021, 07:50 PM

So we were to be "despised" when we rented for 2 months this past Winter, before deciding to purchase a home?

Good to know...

Funny, everyone we met couldn't have been nicer when we told them we were renting and looking for a home. They gave us helpful advice about what to look for, what to avoid...

I guess I didn't meet you...

Ha! We rented only a week before buying. It doesn't take long, does it, to know TV is what you want. We were smitten, swear to God, 2 minutes along Morse Blvd upon our initial arrival. It is just so lovely. We've met so many absolutely wonderful people along the way. Our neighbors in the entire villa sub-section couldn't be any more welcoming and friendly. I haven't come across one disgruntled soul in all of TV except on ToTV, What is it about anonymity that brings out the worst in people? Well, wait, let me restate. What is it about anonymous social media platforms and emergency departments that bring out the worst in people? One does not compare to the other, yet there they are.

JMintzer

07-09-2021, 08:03 PM

Ha! We rented only a week before buying. It doesn't take long, does it, to know TV is what you want. We were smitten, swear to God, 2 minutes along Morse Blvd upon our initial arrival. It is just so lovely. We've met so many absolutely wonderful people along the way. Our neighbors in the entire villa sub-section couldn't be any more welcoming and friendly. I haven't come across one disgruntled soul in all of TV except on ToTV, What is it about anonymity that brings out the worst in people? Well, wait, let me restate. What is it about anonymous social media platforms and emergency departments that bring out the worst in people? One does not compare to the other, yet there they are.

Ha! We did the same! But we paid in advance for two months to search the neighborhoods, get a better feel for the place... I was sold on our first visit (Thanksgiving 2019), visiting friends. But SWMBO was quite sure, so we compromised and decided on an extended stay for her to be sure...

I spent that 13 months (between our fist visit and our extended stay) showing her listing after listing, driving her absolutely insane!

We arrived Christmas Eve, looked at just over a dozen homes and found one the first week of January. We made an offer, went back and forth for a day or three and they accepted our first counter.

We closed in late February, a 10 days before our rental ended...

As to your last point, you nailed it... Anonymity... People will act much differently if you don't know who they are.

Personally, I've always used my real name on Forums... I've got noting to hide...

Velvet

07-09-2021, 09:00 PM

I did the same thing. Loved TV from over the years of visiting my parents (who owned but were seasonal residents) so I knew what to expect. However, I was not sure about my San Diego-beaches-loving hubby. We stayed all along both the gulf coast and the Atlantic coast and then came to TV lifestyle. It HAD to be his choice also as far as I was concerned. He was hesitant, but day by day TV grew on him. First he liked golf carting, then he liked the manicured appearance of the place, then he liked the people we met. Now it is 3 years later and he is proud and happy to be a Villager!

OrangeBlossomBaby

07-09-2021, 09:11 PM

I find the "we don't hate the snowbirds, we love the snowbirds!" to be just as insulting, just in a patronizing way. Maybe because I'm an "other" - I don't fit in with the "majority" of the Villages, in either religious upbringing or political bent. When I mention to someone that I'm jewish and they say "Oh I LOVE jewish people!" it makes me cringe. So when I hear someone say "oh I just LOVE snowbirds" I get the same knee-jerk reaction on behalf of snowbirds.

Laker14

07-10-2021, 06:12 AM

Some of the comments regarding snowbirds on this thread are hysterical in their stupidity.

"Snowbirds are always in a rush...." I've heard many times that snowbirds are always dawdling about, congesting the roadways, going too slow. When I'm in the left lane on 466 going 7 miles over the speed limit, it's never an out of state plate that gets on my tail and zooms by me when I get out of their way. It's always a Florida plate. Must be a snowbird from Jacksonville, I guess.

"Snowbirds don't know how to negotiate the roundabouts"....There was a post a few weeks ago about a driver taking a bypass around a roundabout, stopping when the bypass reconnected to Buena Vista, and then turning left, the WRONG WAY, down Buena Vista. That must have been one of those snowbirds who sticks around until July 4th.

"Snowbirds clog up the restaurants"....right. They should stay home and not ever eat out while staying in the home they bought, pay for, maintain, etc. etc. etc. so the year-rounders need not be inconvenienced.

"Snowbirds 'save' chairs at the squares." Indeed, and no doubt they wear shirts that declare they are snowbirds, so we can all easily identify the culprits as such. There is no chance they are year-rounders doing that.

"Snowbirds come with a feeling of 'entitlement'"....Well, reading the comments of the year-rounders who claim such nonsense to be factual, it is pretty clear who really feels entitled, isn't it? Entitled because they live here 12 months a year, to be free of the congestion that is a natural part of living in a community designed such as ours. All you have to do is look at the density of homes and realize that if they are all being utilized, it's going to be congested.

Marvivo

07-10-2021, 09:42 AM

I love Snowbirds. They leave TV for us to enjoy fully for months!

beingu@juno.com

07-10-2021, 11:01 AM

I honestly don't get it, why are TV snowbirds so despised? Can you explain it to us and help us understand what the divide is all about? Thank you.

Snowbird envy?

Taltarzac725

07-10-2021, 11:04 AM

My best friend is a snow bird.

OrangeBlossomBaby

07-10-2021, 01:23 PM

My best friend is a snow bird.

My grandmother once told me she had nothing against snowbirds at all. She even hired one to be her maid.

golfing eagles

07-10-2021, 02:32 PM

Some of the comments regarding snowbirds on this thread are hysterical in their stupidity.
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"Snowbirds don't know how to negotiate the roundabouts"....There was a post a few weeks ago about a driver taking a bypass around a roundabout, stopping when the bypass reconnected to Buena Vista, and then turning left, the WRONG WAY, down Buena Vista. That must have been one of those snowbirds who sticks around until July 4th.
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Actually, it wasn't in the roundabout, it was at the merge of a bypass, and I never addressed "snowbird" vs. "frog". But if you must know, the vehicle had a handicapped Florida plate (something that I fear immensely when I see it). Of course, we all know the absolute worst thing to encounter on the road is a Prius with an out of state handicapped plate---God help us all:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

dadspet

07-10-2021, 03:26 PM

WOW > I've never experienced even the slightest Issue in the 10+ yrs as a snow bird! And I've never heard of an issue from any of our friends who were also snow birds or still are snow birds. As a matter of fact I've found the returning snow birds are openly received and welcomed very friendly by everyone. I'd suggest you consider looking for a different group to associate with, I'm not sure what their problem is. I have to believe a large % of The Villages population were one time snow birds and found it such a great place they decided to make it full time as we did.

Geraldine kain

07-12-2021, 12:13 PM

I don’t think the “upset” is towards the “Snowbirds” rather the overbuilding. Moved here in 2014 with the idea the founders had no more land to expand. Since that time population has exploded. Off season used to be a relief from the overcrowding, traffic, restaurant wait time not to mention the attendance at the squares and re center activities. At this point in my life, do not have another move “in me.” Just disappointed. Stay home a lot more than I used to…

billethkid

07-12-2021, 12:32 PM

I am not sure where some think TV was to be only a certain size then stop.
Yes there are a lot of stories/legends/tales/promises.

In cities from these peoples past....were they of a specific size to be "acceptable".

It is not like the number of restaurants has stayed the same hence there are a shortage of tables. How many more restaurants are here compared to 10 years ago?

Ditto the above for many other venues that have also grown to accommodate increased population.

OK there is more traffic....no more than any other attractive/popular place to live/visit.

I for one, do not buy the over built scenario. The increased population has allowed TV to reach/surpass critical mass to attract many national brands.......ya shoulda been here in 2003!!!!

To each his/her own......17 years and we like it as much today as 2003!!!!

Daxdog

10-13-2021, 09:10 AM

golfing eagles

10-13-2021, 09:40 AM

All I can say is the SB’s in my area are rude, leave common sense up north, borrow my tools and don’t return them until they are ready to go back north and then just leave them on my front porch. And the people they use to watch and care for the homes are not the best. Yards are not kept up. The Canadian ones complain about everything from using different money to the food and health care.

The term for a person who loves the English and their culture is an "Anglophile". Is there a term for someone who loves Canadians as much as this post indicated???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Velvet

10-13-2021, 09:48 AM

Voyageur, I wonder that they don’t ask where they park their canoe? ;)

golfing eagles

10-13-2021, 09:53 AM

Voyageur, I wonder that they don’t ask where they park their canoe? ;)

Everyone knows they park it at Lake Sumter LANDING!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter

10-13-2021, 10:41 AM

All I can say is the SB’s in my area are rude, leave common sense up north, borrow my tools and don’t return them until they are ready to go back north and then just leave them on my front porch. And the people they use to watch and care for the homes are not the best. Yards are not kept up. The Canadian ones complain about everything from using different money to the food and health care.

Your post adds nothing to the previous 266. Did you actually read any part of this thread?

Topspinmo

10-13-2021, 10:47 AM

I honestly don't get it, why are TV snowbirds so despised? Can you explain it to us and help us understand what the divide is all about? Thank you.

So, few on this forum despise snowbirds and the rest of us gets thrown in that pie? Could someone please explain that. :duck:

manaboutown

10-13-2021, 10:49 AM

Envy?

ThirdOfFive

10-13-2021, 11:39 AM

All I can say is the SB’s in my area are rude, leave common sense up north, borrow my tools and don’t return them until they are ready to go back north and then just leave them on my front porch. And the people they use to watch and care for the homes are not the best. Yards are not kept up. The Canadian ones complain about everything from using different money to the food and health care.
Odd. In my experience Canadians as a whole are some of the politest, most respectful folks around.

Topspinmo

10-13-2021, 01:09 PM

Your post adds nothing to the previous 266. Did you actually read any part of this thread?

It’s only on lap two. Few more to go.

Kelevision

10-13-2021, 01:45 PM

One guess would be congestion, on the roads, in the pools, on the golf courses, in the restaurants…. During the summer months around my place it is so quiet, full timers have gone traveling or visiting. All you hear most of the time is the sound of nature. And you have all these well looked after properties all around. It is like being at a high end resort.

So you’d rather them live here full time? I LOVE snowbirds for the very reason you just said people don’t like them.

Laker14

10-13-2021, 02:08 PM

The term for a person who loves the English and their culture is an "Anglophile". Is there a term for someone who loves Canadians as much as this post indicated???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

A "Canuckaphobe".

golfing eagles

10-13-2021, 02:11 PM

A "Canuckaphobe".

I was going to suggest f***canuck, but thought it wouldn't last long:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

kkingston57

10-13-2021, 07:12 PM

Noted most of the comments were regarding TV. Have lived in Florida for 64 years ago and term snowbird stated way before TV. Most of the complaints about snowbirds are due to increased traffic. In S. Florida a lot of complaints(anecdotal) were about New Yorkers and their drving.

After living in 4 different parts of Florida, there does seem to be much higher percentage of "snow birds" in TV than in other parts of the state.

We should never complain about snowbirds in Florida. The taxes they pay probably contributes to the non necessity of raising taxes in Florda.

Laker14

10-13-2021, 07:45 PM

I was going to suggest f***canuck, but thought it wouldn't last long:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

but it does have the benefit of rhyme.

Laker14

10-13-2021, 07:46 PM

I have a Canadian friend who always reminds me that 466A is the "Canadian Highway"...

466-eh?

CoachKandSportsguy

10-13-2021, 08:37 PM

I haven't read all the responses, but I would expect people who prefer schedules/routines and don't like change, find that the winter months' routines have a less predictability, and their routines and schedules are less reliable. . . this causes them stress, its a characteristic of a personality type.

However, as GOM said, its tribalism, the need to feel part of a group, and a group that makes one special. Everyone with weak egos, look for ways to convince themselves that they are part of a special group, whatever that group is which they choose to assume they are a part of. . your tribe

I wouldn't take other people's dysfunction personally, that is the key to surviving amongst the small crazy people who post here stuff they wouldn't say in public. .

The OP may be overly sensitive, if so, limit your time here, etc, as your mind can play tricks on you. Your mind will assume that if you read a negative article a day, your mind will being to believe that ALL of TV is bad, yet that may be from a very small minority, or even one person like frose. . . so i applaude the moderator's determination to keep a close eye on all the posts. .

davem4616

10-14-2021, 03:48 PM

I honestly don't get it, why are TV snowbirds so despised? Can you explain it to us and help us understand what the divide is all about? Thank you.

'despised' is a pretty strong word

I look forward to the neighbors on our street returning from Canada, New York, Wisconsin and hopefully soon from Iceland.

I do know that people get pretty frustrated when a snowbird fails to make the necessary arrangements to have their yard taken care of while they're away and it becomes an eyesore for everyone...but IMHO I suspect that usually only happens once by a first time buyer

Michael G.

10-14-2021, 04:01 PM

"Why are Snowbirds so despised?"

What this poster meant was: "Why are Snowbirds so LOVED."

coralway

10-14-2021, 04:17 PM

Snowbirds are lucky enough to have a place to go where it's generally cooler and more interesting than living in The Villages year round. So there may be an element of jealousy in the mind of the snowbird hater.

You nailed it.

Bay Kid

10-15-2021, 07:31 AM

I will probably be a snowbird always. I can't see leaving my beautiful beach on the Chesapeake Bay during the summer. But I love heading to TVs in cold weather. If it wasn't for TVs I would never leave the bay. Thank goodness for The Villages!

Veiragirl

10-15-2021, 11:50 AM

it's only going to get better as more people become full time residents and once the southern half really gets going.

snowbirds taste like chicken

Opengineer150

10-15-2021, 12:08 PM

golfing eagles

10-15-2021, 02:40 PM

I grew up in Florida and the the reason we did not care for them was they bring their New York driving habits and Politics No idea where there going no sense of direction , To Loud and the sense of entitlement…

For which you should be thankful since NY drivers are among the best in the world. In NY, Florida drivers are referred to as "road kill". NY politics are all over the board, just like everywhere else, as are the entitled an loud people. As far as no sense of direction---the drivers here can't even navigate a roundabout!

Bogie Shooter

10-15-2021, 03:45 PM

golfing eagles

10-15-2021, 03:54 PM

Oh no! You opened the door.............................................. ....

OOPS, bad move!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

CFrance

10-15-2021, 04:12 PM

For which you should be thankful since NY drivers are among the best in the world. In NY, Florida drivers are referred to as "road kill". NY politics are all over the board, just like everywhere else, as are the entitled an loud people. As far as no sense of direction---the drivers here can't even navigate a roundabout!
Having driven in North Jersey, Manhattan, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Los Angeles, and Every-freaking-where In Michigan, I have to agree with you.
a) What I like about NY drivers--they are swift and confident and drive in such a fashion as to keep traffic flowing.
b) What I don't like about NY drivers--they lay on the horn in a New York Minute, have been known to turn left in front of you from the lane on your right, and other mind-boggling maneuvers. To which, see a).
I prefer the NY drivers to the indecisive Michigan drivers. Pittsburgh drivers are much the same as NY but not quite so deft, so watch out if you're on foot.

Michael G.

10-16-2021, 06:57 AM

Why Everyone Is So Rude Right Now (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/why-everyone-is-so-rude-right-now/ar-AAPzj37?ocid=msedgntp)

Michael G.

10-16-2021, 06:57 AM

Why Everyone Is So Rude Right Now (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/why-everyone-is-so-rude-right-now/ar-AAPzj37?ocid=msedgntp)

OrangeBlossomBaby

10-16-2021, 07:50 AM

Because Floridians have historically been hostile to Northerners. Some of them still aren't over the fact that the south lost the Civil War.

Opengineer150

10-16-2021, 09:00 AM

You mean the War of Northern Aggression as it was referred to when I was a kid …LoL

manaboutown

10-16-2021, 09:05 AM

The best drivers in my experience are Californians; the worst are New Mexicans as there is so much drinking, drugging and road rage over there.

collie1228

10-16-2021, 09:09 AM

I can't imagine a full time resident actually despising snowbirds, as those snowbirds subsidize the full timers' retirements, as they pay year round but only use the amenities seasonally. I personally appreciate each and every one of them. But, am I allowed to dislike (not hate) "snowbird season"? Starting in November, and becoming really bad in January, the traffic on Morse Blvd goes from being bad to terrible, dinner at restaurants becomes a 45 minute wait at best, and yes, with more drivers on the roads, people become more impatient and behave badly sometimes. Even with all that, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Welcome back snowbirds, and I'll be anxiously awaiting your return to your other seasonal residence in the Spring.

OrangeBlossomBaby

10-16-2021, 09:24 AM

I find benefits to both snowbird season and off-peak season.

The Villages becomes more lively and exciting during snowbird season. More people doing more things, more people to meet with and interact with, more personalities to mingle with, more socialization with new faces, reuniting with old friends.

Off peak, it's less crowded, there's more breathing space, less traffic, more opportunity for introspection, better chance to bond with the "core" of the neighborhood (the ones who are here year-round), which makes it so much easier to work as a community to welcome back the snowbirds.

Bogie Shooter

10-16-2021, 09:44 AM

The best drivers in my experience are Californians; the worst are New Mexicans as there is so much drinking, drugging and road rage over there.

Are you referring to New Mexico?

Michael G.

10-16-2021, 09:48 AM

Because Floridians have historically been hostile to Northerners. Some of them still aren't over the fact that the south lost the Civil War.

Trouble is historically a lot of (not all) Floridians were/are Northerners at one time.

Michael G.

10-16-2021, 09:53 AM

I'm jealous of snowbirds because they have enough brains
to go north during a Florida summers.

Bilyclub

10-16-2021, 11:59 AM

I'm jealous of snowbirds because they have enough brains
to go north during a Florida summers.

Oh contraire. Snow birds are jealous of frogs who get to enjoy TV in the summer.

coffeebean

10-16-2021, 05:20 PM

wlasowicz

10-17-2021, 07:11 AM

DAVES

10-17-2021, 07:26 AM

I honestly don't get it, why are TV snowbirds so despised? Can you explain it to us and help us understand what the divide is all about? Thank you.

We tend to use words such as despised to the point that they are meaningless. Awesome
is a clear example that seems to be gone-I HOPE. When, everything is awesome, nothing is. As far as snowbirds, it is a bit of an invasion. I only have xxxxxx weeks and it is costing me $$$$$$$$$. Sadly, this is true with too many things. HURRY UP AND RELAX.

DAVES

10-17-2021, 07:38 AM

I grew up in Florida and the the reason we did not care for them was they bring their New York driving habits and Politics No idea where there going no sense of direction , To Loud and the sense of entitlement…

Perhaps, an interesting aspect of human nature. I hate them because. To the best of my limited ability before I hate anyone or anything I get to know them. Then vs us is the start of the problem. I try to keep my hate list empty AS IT IS NOW. That way when someone makes my HATE LIST I can give them my full attention.

"We did not care for them." is a clear indication of the problem.

ThirdOfFive

10-17-2021, 08:11 AM

First off what's the classification of a snowbird? Someone that's a full time resident but goes north for the summer because they may have a lake house or a snowbird is a person who is just a renter whether seasonally or full time? For those of you who just drive around in a golf cart and just stay in the TV you need to get in a car drive around Fl. during the winter months because the snowbird issue is just not a problem in the TV. but all of of Fl. Its crowded in all of Fl. during the winter months. I'm sure many of you were renters before buying into the villages. For those of you who say the snow birder don't follow the rules or bad that applies to the full timers also It all depends on the character of the person. Love them or hate them they bring a a lot of tourist money into Fl. and I'm sure that's one of the reason there is no state income tax
Of course I cannot say for sure, but I have a hunch that "snowbirds" were being vilified when the current "historic" sections of The Villages were shiny and new.

It is a pretty common phenomenon and is certainly not limited to The Villages, Florida, etc. As an example my sister and her family live in Las Vegas. Some years back Las Vegas suffered the beginnings of an inundation of Californians which continues to this day. There seems to be a mindset among them, that somehow Las Vegas now belongs to them. Bumper stickers saying "You've seen Las Vegas--now go HOME" are prevalent. People moving to Las Vegas from anywhere BUT California certainly do not seem to be welcomed by the current crop of transplanted Californians living there.

It is not much different here, really. Just judging from the posts here there seems to be a pretty significant number of current Villages residents who see snowbirds (as well as other people moving to The Villages) as somehow raining on their little piece of heaven. Which in my opinion is precisely the WRONG attitude, if for no other reason than the kind of people The Villages attracts. Villagers as a rule are more highly-educated, significantly more well-off and far less apt to be living off any kind of government largesse than are people moving to other parts of the country. I come from such an area: the population of Minnesota, numbers-wise, is relatively stable, but that fact merely obscures that the people moving FROM Minnesota are taking their jobs (or retirement income), their taxpaying abilities, purchasing power and respect for law and order with them when they move to places like The Villages, while those moving TO Minnesota in large part are people for whom devouring tax dollars as a career. It is an untenable situation not just for Minnesota but for numerous other areas of the country as well. It got so bad that some years back, the then-Governor of Florida (I forget who) joked that he was going to send a thank-you card to the then-Governor of Minnesota, to express his appreciation for implementing the policies in Minnesota that were driving so many people with money to his state.

To use an overworked phrase, The Villages, precisely because of the people who call it home, attracts the best and the brightest. We should welcome the new (and seasonally returning) additions to our ranks, because they continue to make The Villages a better place to live for all of us.

Mosells

10-22-2021, 01:07 PM

So if snowbirds lived here full time, then the congestion, lack of restaurant space and of course the lack of T times would be FULL TIME.

Ben Franklin

10-23-2021, 02:03 PM

I don't think of snowbirds as a class of people. It's human nature that the more congested the area, the higher the stress. If snowbirds became full-timers we would all get used to the crowds and then maybe many of us would move out of TV.

For me it's more of having to endure snowbird drivers who don't know how to keep driving past a golf cart. Some drivers slow down so as to allow the golf cart to stay ahead of them. It's trying to enter the round abouts, when the SBs don't know how to use them, so they become super slow drivers, or they come to a complete stop, while in the inside lane, because they missed their turn off. Or they turn onto roads right in front of you and go 30 MPH when the speed limit is posted as 45MPH.

It's about not being able to get into your favorite restaurant during season. Snowbirds would feel the same way, if our roles were reversed. It has nothing to do with you personally, and everything about the added inconvenience.

coffeebean

10-24-2021, 03:56 PM

We tend to use words such as despised to the point that they are meaningless. Awesome is a clear example that seems to be gone-I HOPE. When, everything is awesome, nothing is. As far as snowbirds, it is a bit of an invasion. I only have xxxxxx weeks and it is costing me $$$$$$$$$. Sadly, this is true with too many things. HURRY UP AND RELAX.

I do not think the word "awesome" has lost its punch. I like the word and I use it rarely when I really, really, really, really mean something is........let me find a good word..........AWESOME!!!

perrjojo

10-24-2021, 04:19 PM

I don’t know anyone who despises Snowbirds. We just,like to complain when it gets more crowded.

Flyers999

10-24-2021, 05:34 PM

This year I like them. It means things are back to "normal."

Bizdoc

10-24-2021, 05:45 PM

In a single phrase "Back home __________".

No, they aren't "back home". If it so wonderful "back home", why are you here?

DaleDivine

10-24-2021, 05:45 PM

I honestly don't get it, why are TV snowbirds so despised? Can you explain it to us and help us understand what the divide is all about? Thank you.

We have several friends that are SEASONAL. Don't really like the term snowbirds.
:bigbow::bigbow::ho:

Michael G.

10-24-2021, 06:20 PM

Blame it all the warm weather down here.

If I was younger and wealthier to maintain/furnish 2 homes, 2 wardrobes, 2 cars, 2 electric bills, 2 water bills, 2 real-estate tax bills, including the hassle and expense of traveling twice a year in and out of Florida.... YES and I would be a snowbird too.

Shbullet

10-24-2021, 10:12 PM

Maybe if most of the snowbirds became full time or at least 6-8 months a year, the powers to be would understand the congestion etc and begin to add more courses restaurants' etc etc, Today, i feel they just sense the inconvenience for 3 months and leave most things as is, knowing it will go away in 3 months..

thelegges

10-24-2021, 11:29 PM

For me it's more of having to endure snowbird drivers who don't know how to keep driving past a golf cart. Some drivers slow down so as to allow the golf cart to stay ahead of them. It's trying to enter the round abouts, when the SBs don't know how to use them, so they become super slow drivers, or they come to a complete stop, while in the inside lane, because they missed their turn off. Or they turn onto roads right in front of you and go 30 MPH when the speed limit is posted as 45MPH.

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I really have to agree about your thought process to endure snowbird drivers. However, on a daily basis, what your are describing as snowbird drivers happens everyday. They usually, if not always, have Florida plates, in the form of big trucks with UPS, FedEx, or USPS doing 45 in a 30 merging to a 20, trying to beat the golf cart. Or the commercial lawn trucks, crossing yellow line to get ahead, of anybody. Da**** those snowbirds.

Catalina36

10-25-2021, 05:38 AM

Thank You, very well stated. I too am a Villages snowbird and care about my home just as much as the full timers. I pay for my landscape, weeding, irrigation, and pest control service monthly. Most of all I pay for my amenities fee all year round and only use the facilities 5 months out of the year. I check my wifi cameras and thermostat settings frequently. I love my Villages Home and hope that one day my circumstances will change to allow me to live here all year round.

ThirdOfFive

10-25-2021, 05:40 AM

In a single phrase "Back home __________".

No, they aren't "back home". If it so wonderful "back home", why are you here?
I’m sitting at the Minneapolis airport waiting for my chariot back to the Sun. Everything I’ve seen.here these past four days was a fresh reminder of why I left in the first place.

There’s no place like The Villages.

golfing eagles

10-25-2021, 05:52 AM

I really have to agree about your thought process to endure snowbird drivers. However, on a daily basis, what your are describing as snowbird drivers happens everyday. They usually, if not always, have Florida plates, in the form of big trucks with UPS, FedEx, or USPS doing 45 in a 30 merging to a 20, trying to beat the golf cart. Or the commercial lawn trucks, crossing yellow line to get ahead, of anybody. Da**** those snowbirds.

Bad driving happens all year long. It just seems that the REALLY stupid stuff occurs Oct-April. My wife texted me the other day while she was on the MMP crossing on Colony Blvd. headed to Havana. "I know snowbird season has started since I am in a line of 7 golf carts AND A SUV waiting to cross". Earlier this year, in February, I encountered a SUV exiting the tunnel under BV just south of the Liberty Park entrance. Wonder if it was the same driver returning?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: