COVID Treatment in Town Square

[PennBF]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

[Bill14564]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

Available structure, existing parking, easy access, publicity.

There were logistical problems with the open field solution not to mention the cost of the structures. Those particular problems will be solved by this solution.

While this is certainly not an ideal situation, perhaps there aren't a lot of alternatives. A hospital setting would be better but the hospitals have their own set of problems right now.

(and for future reference, the word is outrageous)

[CFrance]

"Outrageous." "Wildwood" Community Center.

I'm glad they're doing this. I think it has been the aim of the grand poo-bah of the state to emphasize treatment along with not mandating vaccinations. Before this there was only one site in TV for this treatment, and that was TVRH, an already stressed facility. Otherwise the closest places were Leesburg and Ocala.

There is a list of everywhere in the US to get this treatment. It's not easily searchable because it's not by state, but every place so far is there. https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=c0371324e1a44ad0aa77b6d301a7e262#data

The treatment has to be given within ten days of getting the virus.

More about that here, but it might be behind a paywall. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-monoclonal-abbott/2021/08/19/a39a0b5e-0029-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3476581%2F612121529d2fda2f4702117f%2F596af36e ade4e24119aad7fa%2F52%2F72%2F612121529d2fda2f47021 17f

[golfing eagles]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS.

[Eebnhab]

So The Villages in their infinite wisdom has decided to set up a monoclonal COVID antibody treatment site in the heart of a town square? According to the news story they plan to use the Brownwood Theater. This means all the COVID positive people in the county will be walking into the Brownwood town square for treatment. What sense does it make to send all your positive COVID patients to the heart of a community where people gather?

“ A monoclonal antibody treatment site will open in the Barnstorm Theater in The Villages.

Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday announced the opening of the treatment center in the movie theater at Brownwood Paddock Square.

The treatment site will be open seven days a week from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. and has the capacity to serve more than 300 patients per day.”

https://www.**************.com/2021/08/25/monoclonal-antibody-treatment-site-to-open-in-barnstorm-theater-in-the-villages/

[Eebnhab]

For whatever reason I cannot get the link to the article to work. It is on TheVillagesNews.com

[Madelaine Amee]

So The Villages in their infinite wisdom has decided to set up a monoclonal COVID antibody treatment site in the heart of a town square? According to the news story they plan to use the Brownwood Theater. This means all the COVID positive people in the county will be walking into the Brownwood town square for treatment. What sense does it make to send all your positive COVID patients to the heart of a community where people gather?
https://www.**************.com/2021/08/25/monoclonal-antibody-treatment-site-to-open-in-barnstorm-theater-in-the-villages/

I was amazed when I read this story in the local paper, a site also in the Savanah Center! Really, does the Morse family want to go down this road?

[Malsua]

So The Villages in their infinite wisdom has decided to set up a monoclonal COVID antibody treatment site in the heart of a town square? According to the news story they plan to use the Brownwood Theater. This means all the COVID positive people in the county will be walking into the Brownwood town square for treatment. What sense does it make to send all your positive COVID patients to the heart of a community where people gather?
https://www.**************.com/2021/08/25/monoclonal-antibody-treatment-site-to-open-in-barnstorm-theater-in-the-villages/?fbclid=IwAR3rxiszvJ4jjP51ivEfORbgJXNBiGWM1LWqYYGw Fl6frZOlllbgretU9ak

Most of the studies I've read indicate it takes a minimum of 15 minutes of accumulated exposure _indoors_ to contract Covid-19. That's in a confined space with little air movement. The exception was health care workers who were intubating covid patients and caught a face full of covid concentrate.

Walking past someone with Covid, unless they cough into your mouth, is not going to expose you to this disease.

I'm also quite sure there will be a triage tent of some sort set up outside and other protocols to prevent covid positive people from infecting others. Such as, they won't have them all sitting in a 10x10 waiting room that also lets uninfected people linger about breathing in virons.

[Dana1963]

I was amazed when I read this story in the local paper, a site also in the Savanah Center! Really, does the Morse family want to go down this road?they’ll never pass on a chance to make a buck!

[Eebnhab]

The Savanah Center makes more sense since it’s somewhat more isolated from the general public. I was amazed when I read this story in the local paper, a site also in the Savanah Center! Really, does the Morse family want to go down this road?

[SGR720]

I was amazed when I read this story in the local paper, a site also in the Savanah Center! Really, does the Morse family want to go down this road?

The story in the Daily Sun does not mention the Savannah Center at all only at the Barnstorm Theater in Brownwood. Where did you get your info?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

FDA approves vaccine for emergency situation only:

"I ain't takin no danged vaccine, it's not even approved by the FDA! Experimentin on humans without our consent, that's what it is!"

1 week later, after the FDA gives full approval of the vaccine:

"Big pharma's gettin rich off our tax dollars on a drug they pushed through cause of politics! I ain't gettin no stankin jab!"

2 months later, after FDA approves experimental monoclonal antibody therapy:

"Martha, you go ahead to the square and enjoy yer line-dancin, I'mma git me some experimental jab, woo hoo!"

Because it just makes SO much sense.

[asianthree]

Guessing the space is being rented. Barnstormer has been closed, and developers are free to do what they choose with the building. No matter who thinks it’s good bad or indifferent.

[golfing eagles]

What amazes me is that someone would start a new thread on this subject at 8:20 AM when someone else started a thread on EXACTLY THE SAME SUBJECT at 7:51 AM

I'll entertain all explanations.......but expect crickets:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Neils]

Theaters are closed anyway.
Glad we will have multiple treatment places nearby for anyone that might need the help

[Eebnhab]

You seem nice. What amazes me is that someone would start a new thread on this subject at 8:20 AM when someone else started a thread on EXACTLY THE SAME SUBJECT at 7:51 AM

I'll entertain all explanations.......but expect crickets:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

So The Villages in their infinite wisdom has decided to set up a monoclonal COVID antibody treatment site in the heart of a town square? According to the news story they plan to use the Brownwood Theater. This means all the COVID positive people in the county will be walking into the Brownwood town square for treatment. What sense does it make to send all your positive COVID patients to the heart of a community where people gather?

“ A monoclonal antibody treatment site will open in the Barnstorm Theater in The Villages.

Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday announced the opening of the treatment center in the movie theater at Brownwood Paddock Square.

The treatment site will be open seven days a week from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. and has the capacity to serve more than 300 patients per day.”

https://www.**************.com/2021/08/25/monoclonal-antibody-treatment-site-to-open-in-barnstorm-theater-in-the-villages/

So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you?
Or would you rather have these people walking around getting sicker and spreading COVID at the grocery store?

[golfing eagles]

You seem nice.

I am, but this one is not on me. A simple "I just didn't see it" would have sufficed

[gatorbill1]

So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you?
Or would you rather have these people walking around getting sicker and spreading COVID at the grocery store?

There is a line there now, so anyone who wants to miggle with people who are positive with covid virus, rush over and get in line. I will not go near Brownwood in future.

[graciegirl]

I was amazed when I read this story in the local paper, a site also in the Savanah Center! Really, does the Morse family want to go down this road?

I think I remember yesterday that Dr. Fauci agrees with Governor Desantis on this treatment. I will see if I can find that article and bring it here.

I am disappointed that he took the stance on Facemasks in schools. I wish he had just not said he would withhold funds if a school system mandated masks. Until then I was thinking he might be the best person for the White House. No politician is perfect.

Monoclonal treatments are used to lessen the effects of Covid-19. They come from blood of people who have recovered from Covid, if I remember correctly.

I need to research this to see. We all need something positive. It really is spreading among the vaccinated people I know, and if folks our age aren't vaccinated by now, maybe this treatment will save their lives.

I am not a medical person. Just very interested.........and hopeful.

[PennBF]

As they say you can't make this stuff up? Who in their right mind would suggest a closed place in a sometimes crowed area with people walking around un vaccinated going in and out of stores and sitting close to each other while waiting for a serious virus treatment. I give up since I can't waste my time discussing this since the nay sayers are going to have a field day for their own self interest. Think about going to a movie later on in a facility that was the treatment center for the spreadable and serious Avoid-19 Virus,etc. :ohdear:

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
These places are set up in many different cities , we are part of the state of Florida,,we should share in the fight against this virus, lots of access to the site , I wonder if many of the complainers even go to Brownwood and for all who complain I use the word I usually hate to hear on here ENTITLED

[Kenswing]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
You sure find a lot of things here "outrages". You're closer to the end than you are to the beginning. Maybe look for things to be happy about?

[ROCKMUP]

So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS.


Just more manufactured drama

[golfing eagles]

There is a line there now, so anyone who wants to miggle with people who are positive with covid virus, rush over and get in line. I will not go near Brownwood in future.

A line at the theater to get in for monoclonal antibody therapy? Unless you qualified for treatment and were planning on going in the theater, why would you "mingle" with anybody on that line? Or "miggle" , whatever that is.

[wisbad1]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
When your done you can go to blue fin for dinner or dance at the square. Maybe ice cream or cougar at city fire.

[graciegirl]

I found this from Newsweek.

It isn't the New England Journal of Medicine but it isn't "Quackery Today" either.

Here it is;

DeSantis and Fauci, Who Sparred Throughout Pandemic, Agree on Monoclonal Antibody Treatment (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/desantis-and-fauci-who-sparred-throughout-pandemic-agree-on-monoclonal-antibody-treatment/ar-AANHxbW?ocid=uxbndlbing)

[golfing eagles]

As they say you can't make this stuff up? Who in their right mind would suggest a closed place in a sometimes crowed area with people walking around un vaccinated going in and out of stores and sitting close to each other while waiting for a serious virus treatment. I give up since I can't waste my time discussing this since the nay sayers are going to have a field day for their own self interest. Think about going to a movie later on in a facility that was the treatment center for the spreadable and serious Avoid-19 Virus,etc. :ohdear:

I'm sure after they are done using the theater for monoclonal antibody infusions and before opening it for movies the place would be thoroughly sanitized. But even without that, I'd be happy to walk in there 12-18 hours later depending on air circulation. I thought we put transmission by fomite behind us over a year ago.

[golfing eagles]

When your done you can go to blue fin for dinner or dance at the square. Maybe ice cream or cougar at city fire.

But they could do that anyway, night after night. Far better they get treated.

[graciegirl]

they’ll never pass on a chance to make a buck!

There is no charge for this treatment. It is free, just like the shots.

I will repost this too. I think it is worth reading.

DeSantis and Fauci, Who Sparred Throughout Pandemic, Agree on Monoclonal Antibody Treatment (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/desantis-and-fauci-who-sparred-throughout-pandemic-agree-on-monoclonal-antibody-treatment/ar-AANHxbW?ocid=uxbndlbing)

[SGR720]

The Savanah Center makes more sense since it’s somewhat more isolated from the general public.

The Savannah Center is currently open for live performances both in the afternoon and evening and some days has club meeting and activities. The Barnstorm Theater is currently not open for anything. Why would the Savannah Center be a better place to have positive COVID patients treated? I have tickets for a show at Savannah Monday afternoon. Mask or no mask, vaccinated or not I would not appreciate walking in there to see a show and be greeted by a group of people that I know have COVID. Also still asking where the info about Savannah Center came from as it is not in the Daily Sun article.

[MandoMan]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

Ideally, you get these monoclonal antibodies as soon as possible after being diagnosed with Covid-19, or if someone in your house has it. It doesn’t work well in people already hospitalized and isn’t for people who use supplemental oxygen. For lots of people, it keeps them from having to be hospitalized, though they still have Covid and can still pass it on and can still get a variety of side-effects. After receiving this, you are not supposed to get a vaccine for three months because the antibodies will attack the vaccine. This is still an experimental treatment that has only temporary approval from the FDA. I don’t know why anyone afraid of the vaccine would be willing to get this. It’s made from cloned RNA.

Is it free? No charge to the person getting the shot, but your insurance may be charged the cost for the syringe and the person giving the injection. The government is paying for it, which means we are all paying for it, just like with the vaccine. How much is the government paying per dose? Here is the only number I’ve found:

“They’re also pricey treatments. Last year, the federal government bought 300,000 doses of the Eli Lilly treatment for $1,250 per dose. Some facilities across the country may also charge patients for the cost of administering the drug. However, Lilly noted in an October release that coronavirus hospitalizations, which the treatments are supposed to prevent, are much pricier: $22,000 per person on average.”

Read more here: Access Denied (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253260773.html#storylink=cpy)

My recollection is that the government is paying about $30 a dose for the vaccine, but of course the government also paid an enormous amount to help companies develop vaccines. I have a hard time believing the average hospital patient stay for Covid is only $22,000. I would expect that to be the cost per day, ICU, ventilator, lots of equipment, meds, etc. This isn’t as good as the vaccine, and it may be more dangerous, but if it keeps people out of the hospital and alive, that’s good.

[gatorbill1]

A line at the theater to get in for monoclonal antibody therapy? Unless you qualified for treatment and were planning on going in the theater, why would you "mingle" with anybody on that line? Or "miggle" , whatever that is.

You think these people, probably with the virus won't be shopping, eating and drinking at Brownwood.

[Byte1]

FDA approves vaccine for emergency situation only:

"I ain't takin no danged vaccine, it's not even approved by the FDA! Experimentin on humans without our consent, that's what it is!"

1 week later, after the FDA gives full approval of the vaccine:

"Big pharma's gettin rich off our tax dollars on a drug they pushed through cause of politics! I ain't gettin no stankin jab!"

2 months later, after FDA approves experimental monoclonal antibody therapy:

"Martha, you go ahead to the square and enjoy yer line-dancin, I'mma git me some experimental jab, woo hoo!"

Because it just makes SO much sense.

So you are upset with those that do not wish to get vaccinated AND you are also upset with those that wish to be treated if they are infected? On top of that, you insist that anyone that does not agree is portrayed as some uneducated redneck?

[Byte1]

There is a line there now, so anyone who wants to miggle with people who are positive with covid virus, rush over and get in line. I will not go near Brownwood in future.

Sure a lot of confidence in the vaccination being shown here today. I don't know why anyone would wish to "mingle" with sick folks, but I guess some have a reason to feel threatened by butterflies if they were told that they might bite them through their clothing.
Guess I am the only one on here that does not wear a useless paper mask into the grocery store when I am vaccinated. I am surprised that some folks on here leave their homes.

[stanley]

So you are upset with those that do not wish to get vaccinated AND you are also upset with those that wish to be treated if they are infected? On top of that, you insist that anyone that does not agree is portrayed as some uneducated redneck?

Don't expect any change for the better

[Eebnhab]

I respond in the tone in which I was addressed. I’ll leave off the laughing emojis though. I am, but this one is not on me. A simple "I just didn't see it" would have sufficed

[graciegirl]

It isn't nice to make fun of how some Southerners, and other rural people talk. It would be offensive if someone made fun of the lack of linking verbs and other "different" ways of talking used by a lot of inner city poor people.

It is fine when we use it, but when outlander's poke fun at us, it makes me want to "tear the rag off the bush" and kick our best coon hound.

Wonderful and intelligent and hardworking people grow up and live in our rural areas of the country. They do not pronounce coffee as "cu-aw-fee" and don't visit Miami and keep yelling..."Jeffrey, get outa the watuh". And they grow up driving a car. Yes they do. They may even start with the tractor when they are 12, but they can drive a car all the way from the North to the South because they know how to drive a car. I love rural folks and some of them are Doctors and Lawyers and Scientists, but they still talk like the folks at home.

Help me down from here, someone.

[golfing eagles]

You think these people, probably with the virus won't be shopping, eating and drinking at Brownwood.

I don't know. If they are responsible they won't. If they tested positive they are supposed to self-quarantine and wear a mask if they must go out for essentials, of which the monoclonal therapy would qualify. But if they go out "shopping, eating and drinking at Brownwood", they will go out and do that everywhere else as well. So once again, better they are treated than not. And I suppose that people who are afraid of exposure are better off knowing where the cases are going than running into them randomly. Or better yet, a big, scarlet "C":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Then again, there's always the option of hiding under your bed.

[shut the front door]

So you are upset with those that do not wish to get vaccinated AND you are also upset with those that wish to be treated if they are infected? On top of that, you insist that anyone that does not agree is portrayed as some uneducated redneck?

Just the typical condescension.

[golfing eagles]

I respond in the tone in which I was addressed. I’ll leave off the laughing emojis though.

The response was a statement of FACT, read whatever "tone" you want into it. And I'll add the laughing emojis that were left out AND add my own: :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[LateBoomer]

so don't go to it

[CFrance]

A line at the theater to get in for monoclonal antibody therapy? Unless you qualified for treatment and were planning on going in the theater, why would you "mingle" with anybody on that line? Or "miggle" , whatever that is.
I'm waiting for someone to say HUGH.

[CFrance]

So you are upset with those that do not wish to get vaccinated AND you are also upset with those that wish to be treated if they are infected? On top of that, you insist that anyone that does not agree is portrayed as some uneducated redneck?
I think you missed the tone.

[Carla B]

Well, if you are feeling bad enough from symptoms of COVID to get monoclonal antibody treatment, I doubt the trip to the Barnstorm would include dining and shopping and mingling. It'd just be, get there and back home ASAP.

[Velvet]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

Sorry to disagree. I think it is absolutely wonderful that if one was to catch Covid in TV there is a close by treatment place for it.

Yes! Yes! Yes! Praise the Lord! Lalalalala

Please go to another square if you are concerned about catching the virus.

[Babubhat]

Too much handwringing over nothing

[Number 10 GI]

they’ll never pass on a chance to make a buck!

Site your source for this. Otherwise it is just a libelous statment. Fake News?

[Byte1]

so don't go to it

:boom:

[Number 10 GI]

As they say you can't make this stuff up? Who in their right mind would suggest a closed place in a sometimes crowed area with people walking around un vaccinated going in and out of stores and sitting close to each other while waiting for a serious virus treatment. I give up since I can't waste my time discussing this since the nay sayers are going to have a field day for their own self interest. Think about going to a movie later on in a facility that was the treatment center for the spreadable and serious Avoid-19 Virus,etc. :ohdear:

I remember posts on this forum complaining about all the people who were at the restaurants setting at the bar with no masks. They were going to spread the virus causing mass deaths from Covid infection. I haven't seen any data to back up this claim. The death/hospitalization rate has been quite low for TV. Seems like some have to spread baseless paranoia and hysteria.

[Number 10 GI]

You think these people, probably with the virus won't be shopping, eating and drinking at Brownwood.

You think these people might do their shopping, eating and drinking anyway even if there was no treatment going on?

[graciegirl]

I remember posts on this forum complaining about all the people who were at the restaurants setting at the bar with no masks. They were going to spread the virus causing mass deaths from Covid infection. I haven't seen any data to back up this claim. The death/hospitalization rate has been quite low for TV. Seems like some have to spread baseless paranoia and hysteria.

Most of us Villagers have had two shots now. My guess is eight out of ten of us. I think that we take this pandemic seriously. I think our hospitalization may not be as bad because so many of us are immunized. Our doctor here said five days ago that 38 of his patients were in the hospitals with Covid.

I think that people here are a cut above when it comes to using their common sense about these sorts of things. I am blessed with many, many, many friends here who are retired medical people.

[gatorbill1]

I remember posts on this forum complaining about all the people who were at the restaurants setting at the bar with no masks. They were going to spread the virus causing mass deaths from Covid infection. I haven't seen any data to back up this claim. The death/hospitalization rate has been quite low for TV. Seems like some have to spread baseless paranoia and hysteria.

I understand we had HIGH hospitalization and deaths in TV - just won't see or hear about it - wouldn't help sell houses

[Velvet]

I understand we had HIGH hospitalization and deaths in TV - just won't see or hear about it - wouldn't help sell houses

But this new treatment center will help sell houses… to seniors.

[graciegirl]

I understand we had HIGH hospitalization and deaths in TV - just won't see or hear about it - wouldn't help sell houses

Now why and how would that happen? Do you really know the Morse family so well that you can make that statement? Our village is right across the street from where Mark Morse lives and we have lived in The Villages in two homes and the only time I have ever seen any of the Morse family is at the State of the Village night, (twice).

I did notice the things they did and continue to do to keep things nice. Maybe it is to sell houses, but that is their business. They don't have to finagle with the truth here. Their houses are selling so fast and for so much that they don't need to lie to anyone.

There are hardly ANY houses for sale on their site because they are being grabbed up as soon as they are posted. They don't need to lie about the pandemic that is affecting us, our country and the entire world.

PLEASE.

[Byte1]

I think you missed the tone.

Naw, I think I got the "tone" exactly. Derision for anyone that does not agree, shown by bigoted elitism as if the poster is superior because they made a choice that they feel everyone else should make based upon their superior intellect.
My daughter is NOT a "redneck" and does not speak like the example given. She has had Covid and was told by her doctor NOT to get the vaccination at that time. She then caught a second case of Covid which she shrugged off. Before coming to visit recently, she (along with all of her family) were tested negative before traveling to see us. All through the pandemic she has been working full-time and has NOT received any Covid stimulus, even taking a hit on a rental property she has where the tenants did not pay rent for four months or more. So, if I take a bit of offense at some of the ignorant and elitist posts, it's because I find that making fun of someone or some group that you do not agree with does NOT convince, but only alienates.
Telling someone that their choice is stupid does not convince. Telling someone that the reason they feel an action is the appropriate thing to do is making someone feel that the choice is a smart choice.

[M2inOR]

I drove past after golf today around 11am.

The entrance for the treatments is not the one close to the square. The entrance being used is near the parking lot and just across the street from Villages Golf Cars.

No crowds, no lines.

Also in the parking lot near MMP for the bridge are staffed tents - WVLG and The Villages.

Sorry did not pass the front entrance near Dunkin' Donuts.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Hot spots where COVID vaccination lags push experimental antibody treatment | Modern Healthcare (https://www.modernhealthcare.com/supply-chain/hot-spots-where-covid-vaccination-lags-push-experimental-antibody-treatment)

Vaccine is preventative, been given to millions with very few side effects, is free, but the medically uneducated believe they know better, until they actually get the virus, then turn into believers, or almost all of them, and then they will go with any experimental drug because they miscalculated their own personal risk.

how many of them remember the relief when the polio vaccine was announced?

narcissism at its best about invincibility and assuming medical knowledge more than a medical professional. . . .

A friend and his family just came back from Iceland, visiting new volcanoes, etc. There are signs that say "We will not save you if you go off the path! you are on your own." in the US, with such a high regard for life, we are the leader in saving lives, even ones who should not reproduce. . . and will spare no expense in saving everyone. . .

and you wonder why healthcare costs are so expensive, on top of reduced reimbursements, and liability insurance. .

[PennBF]

It is amazing how many respondents have found excuses to justify planting a major and serious Virus treatment in the center of an active area and in a building that is where they will treat a total of 300 patients a day. We even have some that try to justify it as the
one being treated would not move about the area at the stores and restaurants? Of course there is still the point they have not as yet ruled out the virus spreading in the air thus one of the reasons for the push for masks. Those who think this is OK and work to find reasons to believe this is just business as usual and disregard any concern about placing a serious medical facility in the center of an open population should visit the ICU at the hospital to get an idea of what their future looks like.:ohdear:

[Number 10 GI]

I understand we had HIGH hospitalization and deaths in TV - just won't see or hear about it - wouldn't help sell houses

And where did you get this understanding? Unless it is a reliable source it's just fake news. There are other sources for the news and the evil developer doesn't control them. If it was that bad someone would be reporting on it.

[golfing eagles]

It is amazing how many respondents have found excuses to justify planting a major and serious Virus treatment in the center of an active area and in a building that is where they will treat a total of 300 patients a day. We even have some that try to justify it as the
one being treated would not move about the area at the stores and restaurants? Of course there is still the point they have not as yet ruled out the virus spreading in the air thus one of the reasons for the push for masks. Those who think this is OK and work to find reasons to believe this is just business as usual and disregard any concern about placing a serious medical facility in the center of an open population should visit the ICU at the hospital to get an idea of what their future looks like.:ohdear:

It's amazing how many times I have to post the same thing.

So to repeat from the last page:
I don't know. If they are responsible they won't. If they tested positive they are supposed to self-quarantine and wear a mask if they must go out for essentials, of which the monoclonal therapy would qualify. But if they go out "shopping, eating and drinking at Brownwood", they will go out and do that everywhere else as well. So once again, better they are treated than not.

You are not at risk because people who tested COVID positive are outdoors in the same town square. PERIOD.

Yes, "they" have ruled out the virus spreading "by air"
The virus is NOT airborne and that is NOT the reason for masks.

However, the longer we have a significant percentage of people who go unvaccinated, the more likely a mutation might make the jump to become airborne, and then we're in a whole new ballgame.

[Byte1]

It is amazing how many respondents have found excuses to justify planting a major and serious Virus treatment in the center of an active area and in a building that is where they will treat a total of 300 patients a day. We even have some that try to justify it as the
one being treated would not move about the area at the stores and restaurants? Of course there is still the point they have not as yet ruled out the virus spreading in the air thus one of the reasons for the push for masks. Those who think this is OK and work to find reasons to believe this is just business as usual and disregard any concern about placing a serious medical facility in the center of an open population should visit the ICU at the hospital to get an idea of what their future looks like.:ohdear:

How exactly is this effecting your lifestyle? Other than being scared, does this process of attempting to save lives really bother you that much? In the past 8 years, I have been to Brownwood only once, so whether they treat Covid patients or leprosy patients has no effect on my lifestyle. I have two other village squares that I can use IF I so choose. Sorry, but unlike some hysterical types on here, I find this a positive in the process of relieving the populace of the covid threat as well as the stress on some that feel the gov is not doing enough.
How do I see this thread? As a utility to justify and promote mass hysteria.
KUDOS to the governor for initiating this great idea! :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

[coffeebean]

…………On top of that, you insist that anyone that does not agree is portrayed as some uneducated redneck?

LOL. If the shoe fits……….

[coffeebean]

I remember posts on this forum complaining about all the people who were at the restaurants setting at the bar with no masks. They were going to spread the virus causing mass deaths from Covid infection. I haven't seen any data to back up this claim. The death/hospitalization rate has been quite low for TV. Seems like some have to spread baseless paranoia and hysteria.

Deaths and hospitalizations in The Villages has been low because the vaccination rate is HIGH. That is a no brainer.

[Penglobal]

Lets face it folks, everyday you step-outside your cubicle of safety(house), you are potentially exposed to those who have been exposed to or currently have COVID. You might as well learn to live with these viruses for the coming years as COVID will mutate and continue to spread.

[tvbound]

Since Florida just reached an all-time high of daily covid deaths, counting all the way back to when this damned thing started, I would think that the addition of another effective way to fight it would be encouraged. Particularly given the average age of the residents, even though it seems vaccinations (and masks?) are being more embraced in TV than in a lot of other areas of FL.

[Number 10 GI]

Deaths and hospitalizations in The Villages has been low because the vaccination rate is HIGH. That is a no brainer.

All those claims that there would be mass deaths were posted before the vaccines were available.

[Altavia]

Nice to have an option.

But - will people afraid of a vaccine get an experimental monoclonal antibody treatment?

[tophcfa]

Perhaps I am missing something, but common sense tells me it would be a much better idea to focus resources and efforts on preventing people from contracting Covid than to attempt to treat it with an experimental antibody?

[Bill14564]

Perhaps I am missing something, but common sense tells me it would be a much better idea to focus resources and efforts on preventing people from contracting Covid than to attempt to treat it with an experimental antibody?

How much more can be done to convince people to be vaccinated? What would that additional effort look like?

For a whole lot of people, that ship has sailed; attempts at treatment are all they have left.

[CFrance]

Nice to have an option.

But - will people afraid of a vaccine are going to get an experimental monoclonal antibody treatment?
Judging by all the non-vaccinated who are inundating the hospitals right now, I would think they would. I wonder if a lot of them aren't afraid of the vaccine so much as they are afraid of government controlling their lives.

[Eg_cruz]

Agree ………there are a 100 better places to choice from.

[Mrprez]

Love it! You go Gracie!

[Bogie Shooter]

Sad but, the anti-vaxer community is getting smaller every day.:pray:

[Happydaz]

If I were locating a monoclonal antibody center I would look to place it in a medical office, a hospital, or a building off by itself with adequate parking. I would not locate it in a Village square. Putting this center in the Barnstorm Theater in Brownwood does not, in my opinion, look like such a good idea. People who need treatment like this more than likely are unvaccinated. Their families may be unvaccinated as well. They could live anywhere in the area and now we are having them come into Brownwood accompanied by their close relatives. What do you think these other family members will do while waiting for the patient to get their treatment? Maybe shop in Brownwood? Go to a restaurant? This is a concentrated number of Covid exposed people from all over the area walking around Brownwood. My wife has ruled out going to Brownwood for shopping or eating. My wife’s concern is very high and some of our neighbors are also very concerned. I have tended to downplay the risk as there are Covid positive patients everywhere and I only visit Dunkin' Donuts once a week, but upon thinking about what my wife has said, I plan to get coffee elsewhere from now on. Why expose myself to additional risk if I don’t have to?

[Velvet]

If I were locating a monoclonal antibody infusion center I would look to place it in a medical office, a hospital, or a building off by itself with adequate parking. I would not locate it in a Village square. Putting this center in the Barnstorm Theater in Brownwood does not, in my opinion, look like such a good idea. People who need treatment like this more than likely are unvaccinated. Their families may be unvaccinated as well. They could live anywhere in the area and now we are having them come into Brownwood accompanied by their close relatives. What do you think these other family members will do while waiting for the patient to get their infusion? Maybe shop in Brownwood? Go to a restaurant? This is a concentrated number of Covid exposed people from all over the area walking around Brownwood. My wife has ruled out going to Brownwood for shopping or eating. My wife’s concern is very high and some of our neighbors are also very concerned. I have tended to downplay the risk as there are Covid positive patients everywhere and I only visit Dunkin' Donuts once a week, but upon thinking about what my wife has said, I plan to get coffee elsewhere from now on. Why expose myself to additional risk if I don’t have to?

You need an appointment so no line ups and believe me when you have Covid to the extent you need treatment you are not in the mood for shopping or for fine dining. Have you ever been really sick?

[Pballer]

Nice to have an option.

But - will people afraid of a vaccine get an experimental monoclonal antibody treatment?

Maybe they would be more comfortable taking the horse deworming medicine. That has been around for a long time and has proven very effective in deworming horses.

[Happydaz]

You need an appointment so no line ups and believe me when you have Covid to the extent you need treatment you are not in the mood for shopping or for fine dining. Have you ever been really sick?

OK, appointment and no wait? Yeah right, my appointments in medical facilities are always right on time. I agree the patient getting the treatment would not not be in the mood to go shopping as they are sick and will be receiving monoclonal antibody treatment, but the people who accompany the patient will get bored sitting around (if they are even allowed into the center) and will set out to shop and eat in Brownwood. Have I ever been really sick? Yes I have and I don’t ever want to get that sick again. Thank you for reminding me why I avoid exposing myself to serious diseases if at all possible.

[biker1]

There are a lot of "experts" here today. I went to the Barnstorm Theatre today for the 4 shots since I had been exposed and it was recommended by my Dr. I did not have an appointment (walked up) and received the shots immediately.

OK, appointment and no wait? Yeah right, my appointments in medical facilities are always right on time. I agree the patient getting the treatment would not not be in the mood to go shopping as they will be hooked up to an IV infusion, but the people who accompany the patient will get bored sitting around (if they are even allowed into the center) and will set out to shop and eat in Brownwood. Have I ever been really sick? Yes I have and I don’t ever want to get that sick again. Thank you for reminding me why I avoid exposing myself to serious diseases if at all possible.

[PennBF]

Thanks Happydaz for renewing my faith in the human race!! After reading all of the excuses to justify placing a serious medical facility in a populated area in the midst of a terrible deadly virus program I was losing my faith and resorting to accept a large portion of the Villages just don't get it. You did a fine job of identifying the risk and explaining the cause for concern! I personally would not go to Brownwood while this travesty is going on. Why risk your health when you don't have to?:)

[John Mayes]

FDA approves vaccine for emergency situation only:

"I ain't takin no danged vaccine, it's not even approved by the FDA! Experimentin on humans without our consent, that's what it is!"

1 week later, after the FDA gives full approval of the vaccine:

"Big pharma's gettin rich off our tax dollars on a drug they pushed through cause of politics! I ain't gettin no stankin jab!"

2 months later, after FDA approves experimental monoclonal antibody therapy:

"Martha, you go ahead to the square and enjoy yer line-dancin, I'mma git me some experimental jab, woo hoo!"

Because it just makes SO much sense.

Wow…..condescend much?

[John Mayes]

LOL. If the shoe fits……….

Your superiority complex is peeking through.

[John Mayes]

It isn't nice to make fun of how some Southerners, and other rural people talk. It would be offensive if someone made fun of the lack of linking verbs and other "different" ways of talking used by a lot of inner city poor people.

It is fine when we use it, but when outlander's poke fun at us, it makes me want to "tear the rag off the bush" and kick our best coon hound.

Wonderful and intelligent and hardworking people grow up and live in our rural areas of the country. They do not pronounce coffee as "cu-aw-fee" and don't visit Miami and keep yelling..."Jeffrey, get outa the watuh". And they grow up driving a car. Yes they do. They may even start with the tractor when they are 12, but they can drive a car all the way from the North to the South because they know how to drive a car. I love rural folks and some of them are Doctors and Lawyers and Scientists, but they still talk like the folks at home.

Help me down from here, someone.

Agree 100%. Amazing how some feel the need to deride others based on where they’re from.

[stanley]

Wow…..condescend much?

Always.

[golfing eagles]

Thanks Happydaz for renewing my faith in the human race!! After reading all of the excuses to justify placing a serious medical facility in a populated area in the midst of a terrible deadly virus program I was losing my faith and resorting to accept a large portion of the Villages just don't get it. You did a fine job of identifying the risk and explaining the cause for concern! I personally would not go to Brownwood while this travesty is going on. Why risk your health when you don't have to?:)

Well, if that nonsense "renewed your faith in the human race", perhaps I can destroy it again. Nah, I'll skip the long explanation and simply say I know ten thousand times as much medicine as the person who posted that, and I'll be going to Brownwood again tomorrow, as I was there yesterday as well

[kkingston57]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

Ask the governor why. He was here to promote it. In meantime, Sumter County has one of the highest % of vaccinations in the state.

[blueash]

Just one more opinion. I think the location is an excellent choice. A large building with room to spread out the patients, easy access from nearby parking, no stairs to climb.

If you think having 300 Covid positive people a day near Brownwood is something new, you haven't been paying attention. There is so much Delta being carried by nearly well people that you should assume you are constantly being exposed if you are mingling at a square.

The monoclonal antibody which I believe is being given here:


REGEN-COV™ (casirivimab and imdevimab) eligibility and access sites
Treatment:
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has granted an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for REGEN-COV™ (casirivimab and imdevimab) for the treatment of mild to moderate coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in adults and pediatric patients (12 years of age and older weighing at least 40 kg) with positive results of direct SARS-CoV-2 viral testing, and who are at high risk for progression to severe COVID-19, including hospitalization or death.

Limitations of Authorized Use (Treatment)
REGEN-COV is not authorized for use in patients:
who are hospitalized due to COVID-19, OR
who require oxygen therapy due to COVID-19, OR
who require an increase in baseline oxygen flow rate due to COVID-19 in those on chronic oxygen therapy due to underlying non-COVID-19 related comorbidity
Monoclonal antibodies, such as REGEN-COV, may be associated with worse clinical outcomes when administered to hospitalized patients with COVID-19 requiring high-flow oxygen or mechanical ventilation
Post-Exposure Prophylaxis:
REGEN-COV is authorized in adult and pediatric individuals (12 years of age and older weighing at least 40 kg) for post-exposure prophylaxis of COVID-19 in individuals who are at high risk for progression to severe COVID-19, including hospitalization or death, and are:

not fully vaccinated or who are not expected to mount an adequate immune response to complete SARS-CoV-2 vaccination (for example, individuals with immunocompromising conditions including those taking immunosuppressive medications) and
have been exposed to an individual infected with SARS-CoV-2 consistent with close contact criteria per Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or
who are at high risk of exposure to an individual infected with SARS-CoV-2 because of occurrence of SARS-CoV-2 infection in other individuals in the same institutional setting (for example, nursing homes, prisons)
Limitations of Authorized Use (Post-Exposure Prophylaxis)
Post-exposure prophylaxis with REGEN-COV is not a substitute for vaccination against COVID-19
REGEN-COV is not authorized for pre-exposure prophylaxis for prevention of COVID-19
REGEN-COV has not been approved but has been authorized for emergency use by the FDA. These uses are authorized only for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of the emergency use under section 564(b)(1) of the Act, 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(b)(1), unless the authorization is terminated or revoked sooner.

Healthcare providers should review the  Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for information on the authorized uses of REGEN-COV.

[EdFNJ]

I found this from Newsweek.

It isn't the New England Journal of Medicine but it isn't "Quackery Today" either.

Here it is;

DeSantis and Fauci, Who Sparred Throughout Pandemic, Agree on Monoclonal Antibody Treatment (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/desantis-and-fauci-who-sparred-throughout-pandemic-agree-on-monoclonal-antibody-treatment/ar-AANHxbW?ocid=uxbndlbing)


Nobody in this thread is complaining about the TREATMENT or it's efficacy, just the LOCATION where it is given.

[stadry]

[QUOTE=golfing eagles;1994475]So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS isn' it ' outrages ,' really ?or, at least outages ?

[donassaid]

Never try to use common sense with hysterical people who are unhinged with irrational fear.

[Goodbye Snow]

Not going to Brownwood until covid treatment site is moved. With all the medical offices why on earth would you put people at risk in a high volume area of people that are mingling on the sidewalks and businesses? I guess this is one way to keep people from coming for the "free" entertainment! I feel sorry for the businesses and the Village residents that like to go there in our golf cars for fun. No fun now too dangerous.

[chenault55]

The story in the Daily Sun does not mention the Savannah Center at all only at the Barnstorm Theater in Brownwood. Where did you get your info?

She said it would make more sense if they did it at Savannah Center not that they were going to.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Insane is right! It is also insane that people will stick their arm out for a specialized antibody treatment or take an animal dewormer rather than get a vaccination!

[jswirs]

Apparently, you misunderstood. This miracle treatment was not developed by someone outside the scientific/medical community such as the governor.

I have to say I’m rather bemused by the vaccine and treatment hysteria. What is the goal for all the old people here writhing over the unvaccinated if and when all Americans are vaccinated? Everyday this country is inundated by non citizens visiting, flying in, walking in from wherever. How do you propose vaccinating everyone in the world? It isn’t going to happen and this virus or it’s mutant version most likely isn’t going anywhere.

Want to think about our biggest danger? If you watched the news today and heard about the deaths of 13 of this country’s finest, you’ll see there is much hatred and determination to bring our country down. Think about those living amongst us now with the annihilation of the USA as their only goal and they now have the capability and time to plot it all out. Now THAT is scary. It helps that everyone is so distracted...
You echo my sentiments...EXACTLY. The replies on this forum prove that common sense is not so common.

[tvbound]

Insane is right! It is also insane that people will stick their arm out for a specialized antibody treatment or take an animal dewormer rather than get a vaccination!

Excellent point.

[Rylee]

They should put it on that vaccinated only, carnival cruise ship

[drducat]

We are fortunate to have this treatment available at all................

Other States are seeing a health care catastrophe occurring by vaccine mandates. Around 50% of workers are quitting and relocating to States that are not unvaccinated predators. Not looking good and is going to be a huge issue going forward.

[Pachine58]

Natural immunity from Covid infection could be stronger than vaccination. Israeli study suggests | Daily Mail Online dailymail.co.uk/health/article…
Now this science makes more sense

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9930855/Natural-immunity-Covid-infection-stronger-vaccination-Israeli-study-suggests.html (https://t.co/KzuYnFf9xq)

[MidWestIA]

So if there is a demand for volume like that - makes you wonder about the risk of everybody walking around here without a mask doesn't it? Guess that says covid is here

[Rosebud1949]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

Why else would you rent out a central building in brownwood, and expose Village folk to Covid carriers, so they can get a TRIAL Vaccine... which is not proven to help. None of us sane folk can fathom why people would rather inject themselves with untried- untested horse medicines and others like monoclonal antibodies, than a tried proved vaccine that saves lives.

Until you mask indoors and get the vaccine this Virus will not go away. If you want to play Russian Roulette with your lives and your families go ahead, but dont do it near those who CARE.......

[golfing eagles]

[QUOTE=golfing eagles;1994475]So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS isn' it ' outrages ,' really ?or, at least outages ?

If you are going to QUOTE someone, you can use the reply button, or you can cut and paste it, BUT DO NOT EDIT what you claim is a quote. Thank you.

[golfing eagles]

Not going to Brownwood until covid treatment site is moved. With all the medical offices why on earth would you put people at risk in a high volume area of people that are mingling on the sidewalks and businesses? I guess this is one way to keep people from coming for the "free" entertainment! I feel sorry for the businesses and the Village residents that like to go there in our golf cars for fun. No fun now too dangerous.

Care to explain just what you THINK the danger is as opposed to everywhere else?

Because if you THINK that these same COVID positive people aren't everywhere, you are mistaken.

[golfing eagles]

So if there is a demand for volume like that - makes you wonder about the risk of everybody walking around here without a mask doesn't it? Guess that says covid is here

Really????? Thank you, Captain Obvious:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[paulajr]

You forgot…going in through the BACK DOOR of the theatre..which is near NOTHING.🙄


So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

And you don’t think carriers of the virus attend functions at the squares? Or shop at grocery stores? I don’t think I’m comfortable getting an infusion in a pasture.

[BlkBlt6]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

I think The Villages had the right idea but didn’t think it through. It sounds like such a logical location for the monoclonal treatment. We need the treatment in The Villages but the businesses in Brownwood will loose business. Exposed people will be outside from the parking lot to the theatre, true, but what’s to say they won’t stop for something to eat or get a cup of coffee and a donut or shop if they are feeling fine. Brownwood will be a magnet for the virus. I think we’ll probably stay away from Brownwood.

[golfing eagles]

You forgot…going in through the BACK DOOR of the theatre..which is near NOTHING.🙄

Thank you, didn't realize they were entering there, good point.

But we'll never convince those with "covidnoia" that they are safe 300 yards away from a COVID positive person. Heck, one person already posted they won't go near that entire town square!

However, the longer a significant percentage of the population remains unvaccinated, the greater the chance of a mutation making the jump to airborne transmission, in which case 300 yards might not be enough.

[terenceanne]

We will stay away from Brownwood for at least 3 months and maybe longer - I feel sorry for the business there - just another blow. Again this is not a comment on if its right or wrong - do whatever you want - we do what is right for us.

[golfing eagles]

I think The Villages had the right idea but didn’t think it through. It sounds like such a logical location for the monoclonal treatment. We need the treatment in The Villages but the businesses in Brownwood will loose business. Exposed people will be outside from the parking lot to the theatre, true, but what’s to say they won’t stop for something to eat or get a cup of coffee and a donut or shop if they are feeling fine. Brownwood will be a magnet for the virus. I think we’ll probably stay away from Brownwood.

Maybe, but think it through:

If they are coming for an infusion, they are either COVID positive or recently exposed. In that case they are supposed to self quarantine and wear a mask when out for essentials such as the grocery store. If they stop for coffee or go shopping, they are just plain selfish and are disregarding the risk they pose to others. HOWEVER, those with that mindset will also be out and about everywhere, they might be next to you in line at the hardware store, or sitting next to you at a bar, or anxious to share a golf cart with you. And you wouldn't know it. So if anyone wants to avoid Brownwood, they might as well avoid everyplace.

[golfing eagles]

We will stay away from Brownwood for at least 3 months and maybe longer - I feel sorry for the business there - just another blow. Again this is not a comment on if its right or wrong - do whatever you want - we do what is right for us.

Wow, and here I thought "right" and "wrong" were absolute and based on facts, not an opinion. Perhaps wording could be changed to "avoiding that which we fear"

[merrymini]

I understand we had HIGH hospitalization and deaths in TV - just won't see or hear about it - wouldn't help sell houses

Why would you believe something so untrue? And it doesn’t seem to be hurting sales in TV.

[Andyb]

Very sad, that you can be so selfish to want to deny life saving treatments for your fellow citizens. Disgusting.

[speedo8357]

I think the opening of the facility is a great idea. Having access to alternative therapeutics close by is a terrific!

People are not going to get sick by walking in an open air setting such as A Town Square. The fear and misconceptions about COVID remind me of the fear associated with AIDS back in the mid-80s. Do you recall the shock after people watched Rock Hudson kiss Linda Evans on Dynasty! Everyone thought she was the walking dead. So take a deep breath and understand that people have to be treated. Having treatment options nearby facilitate their access to prompt effective healthcare.

[charmed59]

The part that confuses me is according to the Florida official website, last week Sumter county had 539 new cases. This site is serving 300 cases a day. Where are these cases coming from?

[VickiF]

Theaters are closed anyway.
Glad we will have multiple treatment places nearby for anyone that might need the help

I agree

[coffeebean]

You need an appointment so no line ups and believe me when you have Covid to the extent you need treatment you are not in the mood for shopping or for fine dining. Have you ever been really sick?

Are asymptomatic Covid positive people candidates for the monoclonal antibody treatment? If yes, then those folks will not feel sick. Those folks will arrive at Brownwood with their families or friends who just may walk out and about in the square killing time while the patient is receiving treatment. I see an increased risk of Covid while these treatments are offered at the theater. There is no getting around that.

[Tom2172]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

Because it makes sense! Treatment good!
Covid bad and beside you shouldn’t be eating too many donuts -everything in moderation

[coffeebean]

Your superiority complex is peeking through.

For sure!

[coffeebean]

Well, if that nonsense "renewed your faith in the human race", perhaps I can destroy it again. Nah, I'll skip the long explanation and simply say I know ten thousand times as much medicine as the person who posted that, and I'll be going to Brownwood again tomorrow, as I was there yesterday as well

GE.....I aways value your expertise and input on this forum. With this, I do not agree. I'll be staying away from Brownwood while the theater is used for the treatments. I feel very safe here in The Villages, knowing that Villagers are mostly vaccinated. Not so with the general public who will be coming into Brownwood for their treatments. Please stay safe.

[coffeebean]

We are fortunate to have this treatment available at all................

Other States are seeing a health care catastrophe occurring by vaccine mandates. Around 50% of workers are quitting and relocating to States that are not unvaccinated predators. Not looking good and is going to be a huge issue going forward.

Uh Oh. That does not bode well for Florida although it is wonderful for those states where those employees are leaving from. More jobs for the vaccinated in the states that mandate the vaccine. Those states will be safer for all with vaccinated forces.

[golfing eagles]

GE.....I aways value your expertise and input on this forum. With this, I do not agree. I'll be staying away from Brownwood while the theater is used for the treatments. I feel very safe here in The Villages, knowing that Villagers are mostly vaccinated. Not so with the general public who will be coming into Brownwood for their treatments. Please stay safe.

I'll respect your choice. But you do realize that that very same person you are avoiding at the square might be next to you in line at your bank, grocery, or pharmacy. Might be buying a greens fee right behind you. Might brush up against you on a sidewalk.

As far a the squares go, outdoor transmission from a brief encounter is almost zero.

And to the person who wonders how you can treat 300/day from 539 cases in a week, that is their maximum capacity---I doubt they are even near that. But apparently all you need to do is CLAIM exposure and they'll treat you.

[Susan1717]

And there’s a difference of Covid or possible Covid patients entering a hospital, clinic, or many other locations for testing or treatment?? I’ve had Covid and regularly test my antibodies. They are still sky high 8 months later. Everyone should be cautious no matter what type of facility they go to. As someone else wrote, park snd go directly into the facility and directly back to your car. Some people due to medical reasons cannot get the vaccine or know family that had horrific reactions. Now there’s so many hospitalized that have been vaccinated too. It’s difficult to know what’s best but it’s good to have more options to fight it once sick, with and without the vax.

[Girlcopper]

So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS.
Couldnt have said it better!

[golfing eagles]

Uh Oh. That does not bode well for Florida although it is wonderful for those states where those employees are leaving from. More jobs for the vaccinated in the states that mandate the vaccine. Those states will be safer for all with vaccinated forces.

I wouldn't believe a word that person posts.

50% of the workforce not only quits, but RELOCATES??????

That would be more impressive than the waves of immigration from Europe from 1840-1920. It would be more impressive than the mass migrations on the Serengeti.
It simply is not plausible.

[coffeebean]

Natural immunity from Covid infection could be stronger than vaccination. Israeli study suggests | Daily Mail Online dailymail.co.uk/health/article…
Now this science makes more sense

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9930855/Natural-immunity-Covid-infection-stronger-vaccination-Israeli-study-suggests.html (https://t.co/KzuYnFf9xq)

Natural infection may offer more immunity than vaccination or maybe not. The data is presented both ways so who really knows which "method" of immunity is better. I guess it depends on the source you believe.

One thing I do know and most folks who are really listening, is immunity by vacination is far safer than playing Russian Roulette with your health by contracting Covid. "Are you feelin' lucky punk?"

[golfing eagles]

And there’s a difference of Covid or possible Covid patients entering a hospital, clinic, or many other locations for testing or treatment?? I’ve had Covid and regularly test my antibodies. They are still sky high 8 months later. Everyone should be cautious no matter what type of facility they go to. As someone else wrote, park snd go directly into the facility and directly back to your car. Some people due to medical reasons cannot get the vaccine or know family that had horrific reactions. Now there’s so many hospitalized that have been vaccinated too. It’s difficult to know what’s best but it’s good to have more options to fight it once sick, with and without the vax.

Agree.

But just a word of caution---don't get too cavalier because of "antibodies" There are many COVID antibodies and we still don't know which one(s) confer immunity. They only test for one, and if it's not it........

[Chi-Town]

I have no problem with having a treatment center for covid patients. Just not in a town square. Also, Barnstorm is the best theater we have and was looking forward to its reopening.

[coffeebean]

Very sad, that you can be so selfish to want to deny life saving treatments for your fellow citizens. Disgusting.

I've read all the posts in this thread and there is not one person who has stated they want to deny life saving treatments for their fellow citizens. The concern is the LOCATION of these treatments. Move the treatment facility to a location that is not in the middle of a town square but of course, offer the treatments. That is what I have absorbed from this discussion and all the folks who have taken part.

[coffeebean]

I'll respect your choice. But you do realize that that very same person you are avoiding at the square might be next to you in line at your bank, grocery, or pharmacy. Might be buying a greens fee right behind you. Might brush up against you on a sidewalk.

As far a the squares go, outdoor transmission from a brief encounter is almost zero.

And to the person who wonders how you can treat 300/day from 539 cases in a week, that is their maximum capacity---I doubt they are even near that. But apparently all you need to do is CLAIM exposure and they'll treat you.

This is what I am wondering about. With the original Covid strain, we were told transmission outdoors is pretty much non existent. That was the reason I never wore a mask outdoors and that was from the very beginning of this pandemic. I have not heard about how readily the Delta variant is transmitted outdoors or is it the same as the original strain: non existent? I still keep my distance from others, indoors and outdoors.

[NotGolfer]

Just had the thought since we have all the complaining. IF nothing had been done with this treatment in this area I wonder if people would be asking "why aren't they doing it here?" It seems no matter what stance one is on with this thing people aren't going to be happy.

[coffeebean]

I wouldn't believe a word that person posts.

50% of the workforce not only quits, but RELOCATES??????

That would be more impressive than the waves of immigration from Europe from 1840-1920. It would be more impressive than the mass migrations on the Serengeti.
It simply is not plausible.

I know you are right. That was just some bunk, wasn't it? LOL.

[Pat2015]

Why would you believe something so untrue? And it doesn’t seem to be hurting sales in TV.
What’s your source on that? We have about 150,000 people here. Do you know many have been hospitalized or died from Covid?

[kendi]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

I am glad to see it. Impressed actually.

[kendi]

So can those of us that don’t want to participate in a major Covid spreader at the square get a refund on our amenities fee because we can no longer enjoy the entertainment at the squares. I was there last night and could not believe how many people were there and not a mask one. DeSatin is trying his best to kill us all. Good luck out there everyone and be safe.

Doubt it since amenity fees do not pay the entertainment on the square. If they did it wouldn’t be open to the public.

[Luggage]

I would have to say that this is rather silly opinion. The fact that we have a local convenient location I think overrides the fact that you are so worried about infection. Now that you know there are people that are infected going there, simply don't go there. Or would you rather have to drive one hour to Gainesville?

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

[Luggage]

The site can serve 300 people, but I don't know if it's true that they are serving 300 people a day. Just like the signs that say maximum capacity is so and so, the public relations posting is written in the best of light

[kendi]

they’ll never pass on a chance to make a buck!

And just how is the Morse family making a buck on this?

[Debbraham]

I just hope they act responsibly and not go into Dunkin’ Donuts for coffee and a donut before or after! Why not do it at Wildwood community center since they are receiving 3 million from the government for Covid related costs!

[coffeebean]

Agree.

But just a word of caution---don't get too cavalier because of "antibodies" There are many COVID antibodies and we still don't know which one(s) confer immunity. They only test for one, and if it's not it........
Seems those who have had natural infection are so concerned about the amount of antibodies one has at any given time. But.......what about the memory part of our immune system? When antibodies are not at their optimum level, don't the T Cell and B Cells spring into action to fight off the pathogen? Immunity from the vaccine works this way too, doesn't it? Your expertise is needed. Thanks.

[Jane Gerry clark]

Available structure, existing parking, easy access, publicity.

There were logistical problems with the open field solution not to mention the cost of the structures. Those particular problems will be solved by this solution.

While this is certainly not an ideal situation, perhaps there aren't a lot of alternatives. A hospital setting would be better but the hospitals have their own set of problems right now.

(and for future reference, the word is outrageous)
The answer is get vaccinated!

[Bill14564]

The answer is get vaccinated!

Yes, but....

Perhaps I am missing something, but common sense tells me it would be a much better idea to focus resources and efforts on preventing people from contracting Covid than to attempt to treat it with an experimental antibody?

How much more can be done to convince people to be vaccinated? What would that additional effort look like?

For a whole lot of people, that ship has sailed; attempts at treatment are all they have left.

[Nhcouple024]

Available structure, existing parking, easy access, publicity.

There were logistical problems with the open field solution not to mention the cost of the structures. Those particular problems will be solved by this solution.

While this is certainly not an ideal situation, perhaps there aren't a lot of alternatives. A hospital setting would be better but the hospitals have their own set of problems right now.

(and for future reference, the word is outrageous)
What about using the savanna center, it has a large parking lot and it is isolated!

[Rsenholzi]

My question is how are they going to sanitize the theater to protect those who go to the movies after it eventually reopens . Also, how are they going to prevent those who are sick from walking through the stores and eating in the restaurants. Do you really think those who refused to be vaccinated and refused to wear masks are really going to quarantine themselves after they get the treatment?

[KYtoTV2021]

As the saying goes "If ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise". :)

Just look at the numbers -- the vaccine IS very, very helpful.

[Gray lady of the sea]

Thank you !!!

[Bill14564]

What about using the savanna center, it has a large parking lot and it is isolated!

Is it available? I thought I saw previous posts noting that it was currently open and conducting business.

[Gray lady of the sea]

Thank you ! I agree with you

[Gray lady of the sea]

Thank you !!!

[Chi-Town]

Just heard on the radio that the porta potties in the parking lot are worth checking out. Propane powered with A/C and showers.

[golfing eagles]

Seems those who have had natural infection are so concerned about the amount of antibodies one has at any given time. But.......what about the memory part of our immune system? When antibodies are not at their optimum level, don't the T Cell and B Cells spring into action to fight off the pathogen? Immunity from the vaccine works this way too, doesn't it? Your expertise is needed. Thanks.

In general, you are correct, that's basically how immunity works. While it is probably the same with the mRNA vaccines, we don't know since this is the first time they've been distributed on a massive scale. The mRNA message only codes for the spike protein, as opposed to more traditional vaccines that are broader in scope. Eventually, a mutation may develop that exhibits what's called "antigenic variation"---meaning the virus could camouflage its spike protein to hide from our immune systems. Another reason to get everyone vaccinated

[golfing eagles]

What about using the savanna center, it has a large parking lot and it is isolated!

And has shows and groups meeting there all day.

[Marine1974]

Big pharma companies have to make a profit to stay in business .
Would you work for free ?

[Vermilion Villager]

So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS.
That is the point of the OP....They ARE NOT just going from their car to the theatre and back. Don't believe me....go to Brownwood and watch for yourself! :welcome:

[golfing eagles]

My question is how are they going to sanitize the theater to protect those who go to the movies after it eventually reopens . Also, how are they going to prevent those who are sick from walking through the stores and eating in the restaurants. Do you really think those who refused to be vaccinated and refused to wear masks are really going to quarantine themselves after they get the treatment?

They have effective ways to sanitize the theater. But even if they didn't, just leave it empty for 3 days and no virus would survive.

[golfing eagles]

That is the point of the OP....They ARE NOT just going from their car to the theatre and back. Don't believe me....go to Brownwood and watch for yourself! :welcome:

In that case, SO WHAT. They're everywhere else as well.

[Vermilion Villager]

Available structure, existing parking, easy access, publicity.



There is another even better place that meets all your concerns.....
The VILLAGES POLO CLUB!!:crap2:
Oh wait....that's where the Fat Cat donors go.....:bowdown:

[Phpb2]

Like all complainants of this ilk. Try the other two squares! Always choose NIMBY over a chance to save lives

[golfing eagles]

There is another even better place that meets all your concerns.....
The VILLAGES POLO CLUB!!:crap2:
Oh wait....that's where the Fat Cat donors go.....:bowdown:

Some people cannot help themselves. I wonder if there is a "compulsive social media political posting" mental disorder listed in the DSM-V

[John Mayes]

For sure!

Well, at least you don’t deny it.

[Byte1]

Since Florida just reached an all-time high of daily covid deaths, counting all the way back to when this damned thing started, I would think that the addition of another effective way to fight it would be encouraged. Particularly given the average age of the residents, even though it seems vaccinations (and masks?) are being more embraced in TV than in a lot of other areas of FL.

Not quite accurate. There was a surge about two weeks ago but the death rate is about a quarter of what it was then. That spike was no higher than other spikes we have had a couple times in the last year. The death rate is going down again. Sure, it may very well spike again before this is all over, but going from 200 deaths down to 53 deaths is a positive, regardless of the hysteria. I got my information from Mayo in case you were going to ask the basis for my information.
I am sure that we will get the usual "well 50 deaths is still too much" and they will be right, but having sites for treating Covid is a good thing. If it inconveniences some on here, tough s***. Get over it.

[Bogie Shooter]

Thank you !!!

Thank you ! I agree with you

Thank you !!!

Who??
Try the “reply with quote” feature.

[EdFNJ]

Does one need to be tested positive first and provide proof for this treatment? It seems (I have no proof but have "heard" from someone who has been there) people are going for this treatment just for prophylactic reasons just like people getting early boosters where no proof of need is required when they have no "immune deficiencies" .... basically lying that they have some legit reason for the early booster. Regeneron is asking for approval for short term "preventative" use.


https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/infectious-disease/Regeneron-antibody-cocktail-used-prevent/99/i14


Edit: To answer my own question: Anyone can get the treatment. No referrals necessary, no previous contact necessary, no prescriptions necessary and no pre-testing required. Just get in the line. Gotta keep the stock price up. ;)

[Bill14564]

There is another even better place that meets all your concerns.....
The VILLAGES POLO CLUB!!:crap2:
Oh wait....that's where the Fat Cat donors go.....:bowdown:

Does not appear to have a large parking area, is not conveniently located, I don't know the size of the building but I assume it is not as large as the theater, and is the building available or is it currently in use?

[Byte1]

That is the point of the OP....They ARE NOT just going from their car to the theatre and back. Don't believe me....go to Brownwood and watch for yourself! :welcome:

OH MY GOODNESS! If that bothers you, then wear your mask or go somewhere else, for crying out loud. Or, have a second drink during happy hour and you won't even notice.

[SGR720]

She said it would make more sense if they did it at Savannah Center not that they were going to.

Wrong!
I quoted the post I was responding to which said "I was amazed when I read this story in the local paper, a site also in the Savannah Center! Really, does the Morse Family want to o down this road?" That does not say it would make more sense to have it at Savannah Center. I read the local paper and it did not say anything about the Savannah Center so I wanted to know where that came from.

Later in the thread someone said it would make more sense to have it at the Savannah Center and I responded to that post also stating why I thought that wasn't a good idea since the Savannah Center is open for shows and club activities most days while the Barnstorm is closed.

[golden]

Maybe they would be more comfortable taking the horse deworming medicine. That has been around for a long time and has proven very effective in deworming horses.

The "horse deworming medicine' (the prescription is called invermectin) saved the country of India from Covid. Over 1 billion people.

[golfing eagles]

The "horse deworming medicine' (the prescription is called invermectin) saved the country of India from Covid. Over 1 billion people.

OMG!!!


Please , please, please say you didn't post that

and please say you don't believe that

I'm speechless except to say "WOW", I'm truly amazed at the (horse) manure people will believe:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But here's a FACT. Texas poison control calls are 550% just because of Ivermectin.

[Bill14564]

The "horse deworming medicine' (the prescription is called invermectin) saved the country of India from Covid. Over 1 billion people.

437,000 dead out of 33M cases makes it look like India is doing just about as well as the US.

One thing that is different, they have administered almost twice as many doses of the vaccine overall and nearly ten times as many doses in the last month!

EDIT: Source: JHU Coronavirus Resource Center (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)

[jswirs]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
..."And the beat goes on....and the beat goes on...Covid keeps pounding fear into the brain" (borrowed from Sonny and Cher, "The Beat goes On").

[Byte1]

I have no problem with having a treatment center for covid patients. Just not in a town square. Also, Barnstorm is the best theater we have and was looking forward to its reopening.

We wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone, would we? As if the theater was open anyway. Just a few miles up the road you can use the one at Sumter Landing. Although, that might inconvenience some also.
I've been reading this stuff for weeks now and notice that "everyone must wear masks so that WE, I , ME won't be exposed." I have noticed that Covid passports MUST be demanded so that WE, I, ME won't be exposed on a cruise. Stores should be mandated to demand masks before entering. Vaccinations MUST be available closer to home and made easier, etc. So, they come up with a facility to assist those that are infected, and folks on here say "well, they are on their own and they should have gotten vaccinated because having it in the square is an inconvenience to us that want to dance, drink and eat in a particular restaurant."
NO ONE is going to catch covid from having a treatment center in the square. If you are scared, then don't go there. Unless you work there, there is no reason that you HAVE to go there until they finish.

[graciegirl]

Reading all this believed misinformation makes me so angry and frustrated.

Maybe people felt the same back when we got the polio shot, but we didn't have the internet to "KNOW" it.

And of course, the explosion in Afghanistan.

I haven't slept well for days, have you?

I thought so.

[Bella6368]

they’ll never pass on a chance to make a buck!

The bucks are being made by the vaccine corporations from the "sheeple" that are lining up to take an experimental drug, and then get in line for their booster shots too. And yes, I'm fully aware the FDA just gave "approval" to Pfzier, however both the FDA and CDC have lost all integrity with so much misinformation, contradicting information, and data that is being suppressed from the American people. That FDA approval isn't worth the paper it's written on! The truth will prevail on these vaccines.

[Byte1]

That is the point of the OP....They ARE NOT just going from their car to the theatre and back. Don't believe me....go to Brownwood and watch for yourself! :welcome:

And it was imperative that you had to go to the theater and observe? Who's fault would it be if/IF it was even possible and you DID catch the Covid?

Why would anyone that fears becoming infected, go to the place where folks with covid were meeting for treatment? I am sure someone will have a great (:1rotfl:) answer to that one, that they think is viable.

[Bill14564]

The bucks are being made by the vaccine corporations from the "sheeple" that are lining up to take an experimental drug, and then get in line for their booster shots too. And yes, I'm fully aware the FDA just gave "approval" to Pfzier, however both the FDA and CDC have lost all integrity with so much misinformation, contradicting information, and data that is being suppressed from the American people. That FDA approval isn't worth the paper it's written on! The truth will prevail on these vaccines.

Daily.

As for the rest ....

[rogerk]

Check the Daily Sun. The Villages News is NOT affiliated with the Villages!

[Pairadocs]

Available structure, existing parking, easy access, publicity.

There were logistical problems with the open field solution not to mention the cost of the structures. Those particular problems will be solved by this solution.

While this is certainly not an ideal situation, perhaps there aren't a lot of alternatives. A hospital setting would be better but the hospitals have their own set of problems right now.

(and for future reference, the word is outrageous)

Almost every situation presents it's own set of challenges; there are no "perfect" solutions. Responses here are yet another example of the "glass half full, glass half empty" types of personalities. Many residents will feel truly blessed that our community is fortunate enough to have such a facility; especially considering the average age ! Others of the "glass half empty", will rage against any location selected. There may well be a greater risk of "concentration" of the virus at the Brownwood location, this "may" cause some to avoid the area ? I truly believe there is much we still do not know about the life and activity of this virus, but we DO KNOW we are surrounded by a wide range of personalities, and even personality disorders, everyday. Grasp the good; WE have been chosen to have a treatment center many who have no access when this virus strikes will envy. And drop the "bad"; there are negatives concerning every possible location under consideration.

[Pairadocs]

And it was imperative that you had to go to the theater and observe? Who's fault would it be if/IF it was even possible and you DID catch the Covid?

Why would anyone that fears becoming infected, go to the place where folks with covid were meeting for treatment? I am sure someone will have a great (:1rotfl:) answer to that one, that they think is viable.

An excellent analysis .... the answer, of course, is in HUMAN nature:icon_wink::icon_wink:

[graciegirl]

Totally agree with you.

It is unfortunate that our governor didn’t push preventative care such as masks & vaccines, which costs our government far less, than this “after the horse is out of the barn” treatment.

Glad the treatment is available but do not care for his choice of location, timing, or his links to the treatment financially.

I thought it was also for people who are getting sick even if they have been vaccinated.

[Spalumbos62]

OH MY GOODNESS! If that bothers you, then wear your mask or go somewhere else, for crying out loud. Or, have a second drink during happy hour and you won't even notice.


He did have a valid point, pls read previous post before you chastise. The whole discussion has been the location and concern that people will meander around after the procedure...valid concern, and also allot of valid answers to that concern. People have different levels of comfort with mixing, knowingly, with positive covid people. I for one, want to stay the heck away, take no chances regardless to whatever a neighbor on this post has to say...be it a health care worker, doctor or just a strong opinionated person. If someone is actually watching covid positive people leaving this location and shopping etc in the square...good info to know........Not...oh my goodness....good info in my book.

[Spalumbos62]

The bucks are being made by the vaccine corporations from the "sheeple" that are lining up to take an experimental drug, and then get in line for their booster shots too. And yes, I'm fully aware the FDA just gave "approval" to Pfzier, however both the FDA and CDC have lost all integrity with so much misinformation, contradicting information, and data that is being suppressed from the American people. That FDA approval isn't worth the paper it's written on! The truth will prevail on these vaccines.

Lol....lol...lol....

[Escape Artist]

I admit that I find a treatment center in one of TV's town squares a bit unnerving. Also, are only TV residents using this site at Brownwood or anyone from the surrounding area can come in get the treatment? I haven't read every post in this 13-page thread so perhaps this was already addressed.

[golfing eagles]

The bucks are being made by the vaccine corporations from the "sheeple" that are lining up to take an experimental drug, and then get in line for their booster shots too. And yes, I'm fully aware the FDA just gave "approval" to Pfzier, however both the FDA and CDC have lost all integrity with so much misinformation, contradicting information, and data that is being suppressed from the American people. That FDA approval isn't worth the paper it's written on! The truth will prevail on these vaccines.

Yes, The FDA, CDC, Florida Dept. of Health, medical professionals in general, the government, all that are not "sheeple", and the pharmaceutical companies all are misinformed, lying, incompetent, etc. But people who "think" (I'll use that term loosely) like the above post describes are the sole keepers and guardians of "the truth"

There is a psychiatric term for such "thinking"..............

[golfing eagles]

I admit that I find a treatment center in one of TV's town squares a bit unnerving. Also, are only TV residents using this site at Brownwood or anyone from the surrounding area can come in get the treatment? I haven't read every post in this 13-page thread so perhaps this was already addressed.

OMG!!!!! Oh, no, heaven forbid........"outsiders". They may have cooties as well as COVID:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[biker1]

The antibody treatment is being administered to breakthrough cases. In the event you don’t know what that means, a breakthrough case is when you develop symptoms despite being fully vaccinated.


Insane is right! It is also insane that people will stick their arm out for a specialized antibody treatment or take an animal dewormer rather than get a vaccination!

[jimjamuser]

There is a line there now, so anyone who wants to miggle with people who are positive with covid virus, rush over and get in line. I will not go near Brownwood in future.
I noticed something about lines of people either indoors or outdoors - they seem to end up with their "SOCIAL DISTANCE" to be more like 2 ft to 4 ft instead of the much safer 6 ft distance. Talk about "herd instinct".

[jimjamuser]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
There are other problems associated with these "FREE" treatments - the vaccinated that were conscientious must now also pay for the Unvaccinated (that were selfish) to be treated. That seems less than fair. That is like the squeaky wheel getting the grease. One might ask what is the cost per person to the state? Then, a forensic detective MIGHT (?) want to trace the money back from the state to whomever?

[Escape Artist]

OMG!!!!! Oh, no, heaven forbid........"outsiders". They may have cooties as well as COVID:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I wouldn't expect a snarky response like that out of someone from Auburn, NY! (my hometown :) ) Well, maybe I would actually...

I was just asking and my tone did not infer anything negative. I've only lived here a short time but have noticed that residents are protective of their community and concerned about who is coming and going that doesn't actually live here.

[chriskarst]

I have a good friend (vaccinated) who got COVID recently & was directed to the freestanding ER on 466A to get the monoclonal antibody infusion. It took her from a very sick person to health in 2 days. I'm thrilled this new site is being set up. If you need it, you will be glad it is there.

[jimjamuser]

These places are set up in many different cities , we are part of the state of Florida,,we should share in the fight against this virus, lots of access to the site , I wonder if many of the complainers even go to Brownwood and for all who complain I use the word I usually hate to hear on here ENTITLED
If you are vaccinated, you are legitimately ENTITLED to complain about people putting your life at risk - for what.....just a convenient place to set up a money-making business.

[coffeebean]

Who??
Try the “reply with quote” feature.

The link does not say REPLY WITH QUOTE. Is says, REPLY. That link will include the quote.

The link that says, "QUICK REPLY" does not include the quote.

[jimjamuser]

There is no charge for this treatment. It is free, just like the shots.

I will repost this too. I think it is worth reading.

DeSantis and Fauci, Who Sparred Throughout Pandemic, Agree on Monoclonal Antibody Treatment (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/desantis-and-fauci-who-sparred-throughout-pandemic-agree-on-monoclonal-antibody-treatment/ar-AANHxbW?ocid=uxbndlbing)
True that there IS no charge to the patient, but in this case, the bill goes to the state, which uses ALL our taxes to pay for each patient's bill.

[golfing eagles]

I wouldn't expect a snarky response like that out of someone from Auburn, NY! (my hometown :) ) Well, maybe I would actually...

I was just asking and my tone did not infer anything negative. I've only lived here a short time but have noticed that residents are protective of their community and concerned about who is coming and going that doesn't actually live here.

OK, forgive my wording. I'm just getting tired of all the "google experts" spouting out and regurgitating garbage from the internet that do not understand. That was not the point you were trying to make, so sorry.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Yes, The FDA, CDC, Florida Dept. of Health, medical professionals in general, the government, all that are not "sheeple", and the pharmaceutical companies all are misinformed, lying, incompetent, etc. But people who "think" (I'll use that term loosely) like the above post describes are the sole keepers and guardians of "the truth"

There is a psychiatric term for such "thinking"..............

Oh oh I know!

Words beginning with the letter D, for $500

[Two Bills]

437,000 dead out of 33M cases makes it look like India is doing just about as well as the US.

One thing that is different, they have administered almost twice as many doses of the vaccine overall and nearly ten times as many doses in the last month!

EDIT: Source: JHU Coronavirus Resource Center (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)

India’s excess deaths during Covid ‘could be 10 times official toll’ | India | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/20/india-excess-deaths-during-covid-could-be-10-times-official-toll)

[golfing eagles]

Oh oh I know!

Words beginning with the letter D, for $500

That's correct. Would you like to play double jeopardy for $1000???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[jimjamuser]

You think these people, probably with the virus won't be shopping, eating and drinking at Brownwood.
You WOULD(?) think, but people being the unpredictable sorts that they are - I would NOT put a wager on the side of them doing the RIGHT thing!

[jimjamuser]

So you are upset with those that do not wish to get vaccinated AND you are also upset with those that wish to be treated if they are infected? On top of that, you insist that anyone that does not agree is portrayed as some uneducated redneck?
Yes !

[Mrprez]

I guess I am doomed. I drove past the side entrance to the theater in an open golf cart twice today. Didn’t see any lines outside the doors.

[jimjamuser]

Well, if you are feeling bad enough from symptoms of COVID to get monoclonal antibody treatment, I doubt the trip to the Barnstorm would include dining and shopping and mingling. It'd just be, get there and back home ASAP.
And I trust them because people ALWAYS do the logical and RIGHT thing. Just like I ALWAYS trust the other DRIVER to do the correct thing!

[Escape Artist]

I guess I am doomed. I drove past the side entrance to the theater in an open golf cart twice today. Didn’t see any lines outside the doors.

:clap2:

[jimjamuser]

I remember posts on this forum complaining about all the people who were at the restaurants setting at the bar with no masks. They were going to spread the virus causing mass deaths from Covid infection. I haven't seen any data to back up this claim. The death/hospitalization rate has been quite low for TV. Seems like some have to spread baseless paranoia and hysteria.
Florida is one of the worst states in the US for CV cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. TV Land does not REALLY have a plastic bubble around it.

[reddragon]

Sounds like you are whistling in the dark

[NoMoSno]

I have a good friend (vaccinated) who got COVID recently & was directed to the freestanding ER on 466A to get the monoclonal antibody infusion. It took her from a very sick person to health in 2 days. I'm thrilled this new site is being set up. If you need it, you will be glad it is there.
This positive news deserves repeating.
Maybe someday every doctor's office will offer it.

[Byte1]

He did have a valid point, pls read previous post before you chastise. The whole discussion has been the location and concern that people will meander around after the procedure...valid concern, and also allot of valid answers to that concern. People have different levels of comfort with mixing, knowingly, with positive covid people. I for one, want to stay the heck away, take no chances regardless to whatever a neighbor on this post has to say...be it a health care worker, doctor or just a strong opinionated person. If someone is actually watching covid positive people leaving this location and shopping etc in the square...good info to know........Not...oh my goodness....good info in my book.

I DID read it and completely understood it. AND, I did not "chastise" I was simply laughing at the naive and simple/single mindedness of the post.
Like I said before, and a well respected poster on here said, those folks are already around you, so what difference does it make WHERE they went for treatment? The theater seems like an excellent choice. It's not being used for entertainment. It's located in an optimal site, and no one needs to be near those being treated even though they might wish to utilize the businesses in the vicinity. Anyone that is worried about those treated persons using businesses around them, must be totally naive to think that those treated are the only possible infected in the area.
If you have been vaccinated, why worry so much? If you are wearing your mask and feel it protects you, then why worry so much? ANSWER: you do not have confidence in the vaccine and/or the paper or cloth masks you insist everyone else wear.
Like a famous but deceased marine once said "Suck it up, Buttercup!"

[jswirs]

That's correct. Would you like to play double jeopardy for $1000???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

and to continue with some levity...NEWS FLASH, THIS JUST IN FROM THE DAILY PLANET...Superman is going to reverse rotation of the earth to the time when Covid was first released, and, providing there is no kryptonite in the area, superman will keep Covid contained within the laboratories of China. So, not to worry folks, it's Superman to the rescue, once again. "Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap buildings at a single bound....Look, up in the sky...it's a bird, it's a plane, "IT'S SUPERMAN!!!!"
Sorry, but all this fear needs some humor.

[Byte1]

If you are vaccinated, you are legitimately ENTITLED to complain about people putting your life at risk - for what.....just a convenient place to set up a money-making business.

Doesn't matter if you are "vaccinated." You are entitled to your opinion and complain all you wish. No one is required to listen to complaints or even care about such complaints. It is also your opinion that the place of convenience is used for the sole purpose of avarice.
And I completely agree that anyone is "entitled" to complain. Therefore, I wish to complain about those selfish, naive and single minded persons that feel it their obligation to criticize a good thing for the Villages. The same folks that find every means to criticize leadership that makes these good choices that work out for the betterment of our citizens. :bigbow:

Thanks to our Governor and his folks for setting this up. The Villages and surrounding counties will benefit for this.

Once again folks, if you are scared then stay home. The rest of us are enjoying our twilight years and I love it when the streets are not crowded and I can shop without standing in long lines. Even fear benefits some of us........:1rotfl::clap2:

[Spalumbos62]

I DID read it and completely understood it. AND, I did not "chastise" I was simply laughing at the naive and simple/single mindedness of the post.
Like I said before, and a well respected poster on here said, those folks are already around you, so what difference does it make WHERE they went for treatment? The theater seems like an excellent choice. It's not being used for entertainment. It's located in an optimal site, and no one needs to be near those being treated even though they might wish to utilize the businesses in the vicinity. Anyone that is worried about those treated persons using businesses around them, must be totally naive to think that those treated are the only possible infected in the area.
If you have been vaccinated, why worry so much? If you are wearing your mask and feel it protects you, then why worry so much? ANSWER: you do not have confidence in the vaccine and/or the paper or cloth masks you insist everyone else wear.
Like a famous but deceased marine once said "Suck it up, Buttercup!"

Sorry buttercup, but let's face it, the Vax and/or mask are not cutting it...hell, there's a veteran poster on here that was in hospital at least 12days. Hopefully he's out and we'll, but he was vaxed.

I dont understand all the sarcasm on these posts. It seems like people get so much joy out of undercutting other posters with sarcasm. Always seems to be older men that get their briefs twisted by something another person says back to them. I know this is very common behavior from young boys, but really shocks me on this site. Who knows, maybe as things don't work right anymore they have to lash out at others in some sort of frustration.
I know one thing, women, in general, prefer a jolly, kind older man.

[coffeebean]

I DID read it and completely understood it. AND, I did not "chastise" I was simply laughing at the naive and simple/single mindedness of the post.
Like I said before, and a well respected poster on here said, those folks are already around you, so what difference does it make WHERE they went for treatment? The theater seems like an excellent choice. It's not being used for entertainment. It's located in an optimal site, and no one needs to be near those being treated even though they might wish to utilize the businesses in the vicinity. Anyone that is worried about those treated persons using businesses around them, must be totally naive to think that those treated are the only possible infected in the area.
If you have been vaccinated, why worry so much? If you are wearing your mask and feel it protects you, then why worry so much? ANSWER: you do not have confidence in the vaccine and/or the paper or cloth masks you insist everyone else wear.
Like a famous but deceased marine once said "Suck it up, Buttercup!"

I’m fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine and I will not wear a mask to protect others at this point in time. Anyone who needs protection can wear an N95 mask to protect themselves. I feel very protected with my vaccine and look forward to the booster in October. I have known all along I will not ever protect those who refuse the vaccine for what ever lame excuse they have. Just not going to do it.

[jimjamuser]

Hot spots where COVID vaccination lags push experimental antibody treatment | Modern Healthcare (https://www.modernhealthcare.com/supply-chain/hot-spots-where-covid-vaccination-lags-push-experimental-antibody-treatment)

Vaccine is preventative, been given to millions with very few side effects, is free, but the medically uneducated believe they know better, until they actually get the virus, then turn into believers, or almost all of them, and then they will go with any experimental drug because they miscalculated their own personal risk.

how many of them remember the relief when the polio vaccine was announced?

narcissism at its best about invincibility and assuming medical knowledge more than a medical professional. . . .

A friend and his family just came back from Iceland, visiting new volcanoes, etc. There are signs that say "We will not save you if you go off the path! you are on your own." in the US, with such a high regard for life, we are the leader in saving lives, even ones who should not reproduce. . . and will spare no expense in saving everyone. . .

and you wonder why healthcare costs are so expensive, on top of reduced reimbursements, and liability insurance. .
I find fault with the few words, "even ones who should not reproduce" because some of the world's smartest and most productive people have come from lowly poor homes. No one can decide the future potential for any other person. Australia was settled as a prison colony and they are now among the top countries.

[golfing eagles]

and to continue with some levity...NEWS FLASH, THIS JUST IN FROM THE DAILY PLANET...Superman is going to reverse rotation of the earth to the time when Covid was first released, and, providing there is no kryptonite in the area, superman will keep Covid contained within the laboratories of China. So, not to worry folks, it's Superman to the rescue, once again. "Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap buildings at a single bound....Look, up in the sky...it's a bird, it's a plane, "IT'S SUPERMAN!!!!"
Sorry, but all this fear needs some humor.

Couldn't agree more:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[jimjamuser]

It's amazing how many times I have to post the same thing.

So to repeat from the last page:
I don't know. If they are responsible they won't. If they tested positive they are supposed to self-quarantine and wear a mask if they must go out for essentials, of which the monoclonal therapy would qualify. But if they go out "shopping, eating and drinking at Brownwood", they will go out and do that everywhere else as well. So once again, better they are treated than not.

You are not at risk because people who tested COVID positive are outdoors in the same town square. PERIOD.

Yes, "they" have ruled out the virus spreading "by air"
The virus is NOT airborne and that is NOT the reason for masks.

However, the longer we have a significant percentage of people who go unvaccinated, the more likely a mutation might make the jump to become airborne, and then we're in a whole new ballgame.
"The virus is NOT airborne"......????? We have ALL seen videos of people breathing out and moisture from breathing transporting CV from the mouth THROUGH THE AIR for a distance of about 5.5 feet. I tend to call that AIRBORNE! I do NOT have the credentials and mental capacity to challenge ANY medical Doctor - so maybe I misunderstood something about that post. Yes, the Virus is small and could not go 5.5 feet by itself, but it Can and Does while it hitchhikes on a moisture droplet. So, maybe that means ...."NOT airborne"? I am somewhat confused?????? I am only seeking clarification - not trying to be provocative! Sincerely........me

[golfing eagles]

"The virus is NOT airborne"......????? We have ALL seen videos of people breathing out and moisture from breathing transporting CV from the mouth THROUGH THE AIR for a distance of about 5.5 feet. I tend to call that AIRBORNE! I do NOT have the credentials and mental capacity to challenge ANY medical Doctor - so maybe I misunderstood something about that post. Yes, the Virus is small and could not go 5.5 feet by itself, but it Can and Does while it hitchhikes on a moisture droplet. So, maybe that means ...."NOT airborne"? I am somewhat confused?????? I am only seeking clarification - not trying to be provocative! Sincerely........me

No problem---

Droplet and Airborne/Aerosol are different-----airborne does not need "droplets" to spread. Here's a good explanation from the Univ. Of Penn.:

"At issue is the constantly shifting interpretation of droplet size with reference to SARS-CoV-2.

Traditionally, droplets are defined as large (>5 microns) aqueous bodies. However, airborne (or aerosolized) transmission of the virus has been proposed as a source of infection almost since the inception of the COVID pandemic.

By comparison to droplets, aerosolized particles are infinitesimal. Size alone is not the only important distinction: Droplets fall to earth quickly, but aerosols can travel on air currents potentially for hours. Thus aerosolized viruses are likely to be much more infectious than viruses bound to respiratory droplets, and much more difficult to avoid."

So far the "proposal" of airborne transmission of COVID has not panned out. But with a large number of unvaccinated people and continuing mutation/variants, that jump to airborne could certainly be coming.

[jimjamuser]

Lets face it folks, everyday you step-outside your cubicle of safety(house), you are potentially exposed to those who have been exposed to or currently have COVID. You might as well learn to live with these viruses for the coming years as COVID will mutate and continue to spread.
Medical Scientists found a SOLUTION to smallpox and polio. They did NOT accept it. Way back then people were either different or smarter than people today......they took the DAMN vaccine and magic, magic NO MORE smallpox and polio. What has gone wrong with the US people today - it hurts my head to think about that!

[jimjamuser]

Since Florida just reached an all-time high of daily covid deaths, counting all the way back to when this damned thing started, I would think that the addition of another effective way to fight it would be encouraged. Particularly given the average age of the residents, even though it seems vaccinations (and masks?) are being more embraced in TV than in a lot of other areas of FL.
Masks......not so much.

[jimjamuser]

Perhaps I am missing something, but common sense tells me it would be a much better idea to focus resources and efforts on preventing people from contracting Covid than to attempt to treat it with an experimental antibody?
I agree with the content of this post!

[jimjamuser]

How much more can be done to convince people to be vaccinated? What would that additional effort look like?

For a whole lot of people, that ship has sailed; attempts at treatment are all they have left.
The only way to get increased vaccination now is for government agencies and private companies to MANDATE vaccines. A month ago a large Houston hospital mandated that ALL EMPLOYEES MUST be vaccinated - the end result was that only .3 % of the employees QUIT. Employees will accept reality IF it is made a part of the job! How about this for a slogan sports fans .....a jab for a job!

[Pballer]

The "horse deworming medicine' (the prescription is called invermectin) saved the country of India from Covid. Over 1 billion people.

Please cite your source; please tell me it wasn't Tucker Carlson. By the way, has he revealed yet whether he has been vaccinated?

[flflowers]

FDA approves vaccine for emergency situation only:

"I ain't takin no danged vaccine, it's not even approved by the FDA! Experimentin on humans without our consent, that's what it is!"

1 week later, after the FDA gives full approval of the vaccine:

"Big pharma's gettin rich off our tax dollars on a drug they pushed through cause of politics! I ain't gettin no stankin jab!"

2 months later, after FDA approves experimental monoclonal antibody therapy:

"Martha, you go ahead to the square and enjoy yer line-dancin, I'mma git me some experimental jab, woo hoo!"

Because it just makes SO much sense.

Buried in the fine print of Monday's approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration of the Pfizer Comirnaty COVID vaccine are two critical facts that affect whether the vaccine can be mandated, and whether Pfizer can be held liable for injuries

Monday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a biologics license application for the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine.

The press reported that vaccine mandates are now legal for military, healthcare workers, college students and employees in many industries. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has now required the vaccine for all teachers and school staff. The Pentagon is proceeding with its mandate for all military service members.

But there are several bizarre aspects to the FDA approval that will prove confusing to those not familiar with the pervasiveness of the FDA's regulatory capture, or the depths of the agency's cynicism.

First, the FDA acknowledges that while Pfizer has "insufficient stocks" of the newly licensed Comirnaty vaccine available, there is "a significant amount" of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine -- produced under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) -- still available for use.

The FDA decrees that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine under the EUA should remain unlicensed but can be used "interchangeably" (page 2, footnote 8) with the newly licensed Comirnaty product.

Second, the FDA pointed out that the licensed Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine and the existing, EUA Pfizer vaccine are "legally distinct," but proclaims that their differences do not "impact safety or effectiveness."

There is a huge real-world difference between products approved under EUA compared with those the FDA has fully licensed.

EUA products are experimental under U.S. law. Both the Nuremberg Code and federal regulations provide that no one can force a human being to participate in this experiment. Under 21 U.S. Code Sec.360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III), "authorization for medical products for use in emergencies," it is unlawful to deny someone a job or an education because they refuse to be an experimental subject. Instead, potential recipients have an absolute right to refuse EUA vaccines.

U.S. laws, however, permit employers and schools to require students and workers to take licensed vaccines.

EUA-approved COVID vaccines have an extraordinary liability shield under the 2005 Public Readiness and Preparedness Act. Vaccine manufacturers, distributors, providers and government planners are immune from liability. The only way an injured party can sue is if he or she can prove willful misconduct, and if the U.S. government has also brought an enforcement action against the party for willful misconduct. No such lawsuit has ever succeeded.

The government has created an extremely stingy compensation program, the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, to redress injuries from all EUA products. The program's parsimonious administrators have compensated under 4% of petitioners to date -- and not a single COVID vaccine injury -- despite the fact that physicians, families and injured vaccine recipients have reported more than 600,000 COVID vaccine injuries.

At least for the moment, the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine has no liability shield. Vials of the branded product, which say "Comirnaty" on the label, are subject to the same product liability laws as other U.S. products.

When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices places a vaccine on the mandatory schedule, a childhood vaccine benefits from a generous retinue of liability protections.

But licensed adult vaccines, including the new Comirnaty, do not enjoy any liability shield. Just as with Ford's exploding Pinto, or Monsanto's herbicide Roundup, people injured by the Comirnaty vaccine could potentially sue for damages.

And because adults injured by the vaccine will be able to show that the manufacturer knew of the problems with the product, jury awards could be astronomical.

Pfizer is therefore unlikely to allow any American to take a Comirnaty vaccine until it can somehow arrange immunity for this product.

Given this background, the FDA's acknowledgement in its approval letter that there are insufficient stocks of the licensed Comirnaty, but an abundant supply of the EUA Pfizer BioNTech jab, exposes the "approval" as a cynical scheme to encourage businesses and schools to impose illegal jab mandates.

The FDA's clear motivation is to enable Pfizer to quickly unload inventories of a vaccine that science and the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System have exposed as unreasonably dangerous, and that the Delta variant has rendered obsolete.



Americans, told that the Pfizer COVID vaccine is now licensed, will understandably assume COVID vaccine mandates are lawful. But only EUA-authorized vaccines, for which no one has any real liability, will be available during the next few weeks when many school mandate deadlines occur.

The FDA appears to be purposefully tricking American citizens into giving up their right to refuse an experimental product.

While the media has trumpeted that the FDA has approved COVID vaccines, the FDA has not approved the Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, nor any COVID vaccines for the 12- to 15-year age group, nor any booster doses for anyone.

And the FDA has not licensed any Moderna vaccine, nor any vaccine from Johnson & Johnson -- so the vast majority, if not all, of vaccines available in the U.S. remain unlicensed EUA products.

Here's what you need to know when somebody orders you to get the vaccine: Ask to see the vial. If it says "Comirnaty," it's a licensed product.

If it says "Pfizer-BioNTech," it's an experimental product, and under 21 U.S. Code 360bbb, you have the right to refuse.

If it comes from Moderna or Johnson & Johnson (marketed as Janssen), you have the right to refuse.

The FDA is playing bait and switch with the American public -- but we don't have to play along. If it doesn't say Comirnaty, you have not been offered an approved vaccine.

[tvbound]

Buried in the fine print of Monday's approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration of the Pfizer Comirnaty COVID vaccine are two critical facts that affect whether the vaccine can be mandated, and whether Pfizer can be held liable for injuries

Monday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a biologics license application for the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine.

YADA, YADA, YADA.



Do you have a link or source, for that obvious cut & paste?

[jimjamuser]

Maybe, but think it through:

If they are coming for an infusion, they are either COVID positive or recently exposed. In that case they are supposed to self quarantine and wear a mask when out for essentials such as the grocery store. If they stop for coffee or go shopping, they are just plain selfish and are disregarding the risk they pose to others. HOWEVER, those with that mindset will also be out and about everywhere, they might be next to you in line at the hardware store, or sitting next to you at a bar, or anxious to share a golf cart with you. And you wouldn't know it. So if anyone wants to avoid Brownwood, they might as well avoid everyplace.
I agree with the contents of this post because it represents REALITY - unfortunately, it is a reality that I wish HAD been avoided back about Apr 2021 when it COULD have been avoided.

[jimjamuser]

The part that confuses me is according to the Florida official website, last week Sumter county had 539 new cases. This site is serving 300 cases a day. Where are these cases coming from?
That IS a very interesting post!

[tvbound]

We are fortunate to have this treatment available at all................

Other States are seeing a health care catastrophe occurring by vaccine mandates. Around 50% of workers are quitting and relocating to States that are not unvaccinated predators. Not looking good and is going to be a huge issue going forward.

"Around 50% of workers are quitting and relocating to States that are not unvaccinated predators."

"Around 50%?" Do you have a legitimate source or link for that assertion?

[jimjamuser]

So can those of us that don’t want to participate in a major Covid spreader at the square get a refund on our amenities fee because we can no longer enjoy the entertainment at the squares. I was there last night and could not believe how many people were there and not a mask one. DeSatin is trying his best to kill us all. Good luck out there everyone and be safe.
I agree with the contents of this post.

[golfing eagles]

Buried in the fine print of Monday's approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration of the Pfizer Comirnaty COVID vaccine are two critical facts that affect whether the vaccine can be mandated, and whether Pfizer can be held liable for injuries

Monday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a biologics license application for the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine.

The press reported that vaccine mandates are now legal for military, healthcare workers, college students and employees in many industries. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has now required the vaccine for all teachers and school staff. The Pentagon is proceeding with its mandate for all military service members.

But there are several bizarre aspects to the FDA approval that will prove confusing to those not familiar with the pervasiveness of the FDA's regulatory capture, or the depths of the agency's cynicism.

First, the FDA acknowledges that while Pfizer has "insufficient stocks" of the newly licensed Comirnaty vaccine available, there is "a significant amount" of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine -- produced under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) -- still available for use.

The FDA decrees that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine under the EUA should remain unlicensed but can be used "interchangeably" (page 2, footnote 8) with the newly licensed Comirnaty product.

Second, the FDA pointed out that the licensed Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine and the existing, EUA Pfizer vaccine are "legally distinct," but proclaims that their differences do not "impact safety or effectiveness."

There is a huge real-world difference between products approved under EUA compared with those the FDA has fully licensed.

EUA products are experimental under U.S. law. Both the Nuremberg Code and federal regulations provide that no one can force a human being to participate in this experiment. Under 21 U.S. Code Sec.360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III), "authorization for medical products for use in emergencies," it is unlawful to deny someone a job or an education because they refuse to be an experimental subject. Instead, potential recipients have an absolute right to refuse EUA vaccines.

U.S. laws, however, permit employers and schools to require students and workers to take licensed vaccines.

EUA-approved COVID vaccines have an extraordinary liability shield under the 2005 Public Readiness and Preparedness Act. Vaccine manufacturers, distributors, providers and government planners are immune from liability. The only way an injured party can sue is if he or she can prove willful misconduct, and if the U.S. government has also brought an enforcement action against the party for willful misconduct. No such lawsuit has ever succeeded.

The government has created an extremely stingy compensation program, the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, to redress injuries from all EUA products. The program's parsimonious administrators have compensated under 4% of petitioners to date -- and not a single COVID vaccine injury -- despite the fact that physicians, families and injured vaccine recipients have reported more than 600,000 COVID vaccine injuries.

At least for the moment, the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine has no liability shield. Vials of the branded product, which say "Comirnaty" on the label, are subject to the same product liability laws as other U.S. products.

When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices places a vaccine on the mandatory schedule, a childhood vaccine benefits from a generous retinue of liability protections.

But licensed adult vaccines, including the new Comirnaty, do not enjoy any liability shield. Just as with Ford's exploding Pinto, or Monsanto's herbicide Roundup, people injured by the Comirnaty vaccine could potentially sue for damages.

And because adults injured by the vaccine will be able to show that the manufacturer knew of the problems with the product, jury awards could be astronomical.

Pfizer is therefore unlikely to allow any American to take a Comirnaty vaccine until it can somehow arrange immunity for this product.

Given this background, the FDA's acknowledgement in its approval letter that there are insufficient stocks of the licensed Comirnaty, but an abundant supply of the EUA Pfizer BioNTech jab, exposes the "approval" as a cynical scheme to encourage businesses and schools to impose illegal jab mandates.

The FDA's clear motivation is to enable Pfizer to quickly unload inventories of a vaccine that science and the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System have exposed as unreasonably dangerous, and that the Delta variant has rendered obsolete.



Americans, told that the Pfizer COVID vaccine is now licensed, will understandably assume COVID vaccine mandates are lawful. But only EUA-authorized vaccines, for which no one has any real liability, will be available during the next few weeks when many school mandate deadlines occur.

The FDA appears to be purposefully tricking American citizens into giving up their right to refuse an experimental product.

While the media has trumpeted that the FDA has approved COVID vaccines, the FDA has not approved the Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, nor any COVID vaccines for the 12- to 15-year age group, nor any booster doses for anyone.

And the FDA has not licensed any Moderna vaccine, nor any vaccine from Johnson & Johnson -- so the vast majority, if not all, of vaccines available in the U.S. remain unlicensed EUA products.

Here's what you need to know when somebody orders you to get the vaccine: Ask to see the vial. If it says "Comirnaty," it's a licensed product.

If it says "Pfizer-BioNTech," it's an experimental product, and under 21 U.S. Code 360bbb, you have the right to refuse.

If it comes from Moderna or Johnson & Johnson (marketed as Janssen), you have the right to refuse.

The FDA is playing bait and switch with the American public -- but we don't have to play along. If it doesn't say Comirnaty, you have not been offered an approved vaccine.

Only a lawyer could have written so much:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[PennBF]

It is reality the Monoclonal Antibodies treatment is intended for the more contagious Delta Variant. It is best used 10 days of first symptoms and those who are high risk for severe Covid illness. These are the groups who will be going for the Monoclonal Antibodies the Theater in Brownwood. These are the patients who allegedly will be visiting and gathering in the Brownwood square in Restaurants, Stores, etc. This does not mean they shouldn't be treated it means the medical center should be in a non populated area. :ohdear:

[jimjamuser]

The bucks are being made by the vaccine corporations from the "sheeple" that are lining up to take an experimental drug, and then get in line for their booster shots too. And yes, I'm fully aware the FDA just gave "approval" to Pfzier, however both the FDA and CDC have lost all integrity with so much misinformation, contradicting information, and data that is being suppressed from the American people. That FDA approval isn't worth the paper it's written on! The truth will prevail on these vaccines.
I DISAGREE with the contents of this post.

[coconutmama]

He most certainly DID push Vaccines and was sure they got to older people first. I don't agree with his mandate that school systems would not get funded if they mandated masks, but we were some of the earliest to get the vaccines due to his efforts. He would have been in higher places but that foolish error has stopped him.

Here, yes, because of his many donors. However the folks in Orange & Miami-Dade Counties, to name only 2, were not treated the same.

[golfing eagles]

Here, yes, because of his many donors. However the folks in Orange & Miami-Dade Counties, to name only 2, were not treated the same.

And yet another who couldn't resist a political statement. Must be a dominant gene:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[jimjamuser]

No problem---

Droplet and Airborne/Aerosol are different-----airborne does not need "droplets" to spread. Here's a good explanation from the Univ. Of Penn.:

"At issue is the constantly shifting interpretation of droplet size with reference to SARS-CoV-2.

Traditionally, droplets are defined as large (>5 microns) aqueous bodies. However, airborne (or aerosolized) transmission of the virus has been proposed as a source of infection almost since the inception of the COVID pandemic.

By comparison to droplets, aerosolized particles are infinitesimal. Size alone is not the only important distinction: Droplets fall to earth quickly, but aerosols can travel on air currents potentially for hours. Thus aerosolized viruses are likely to be much more infectious than viruses bound to respiratory droplets, and much more difficult to avoid."

So far the "proposal" of airborne transmission of COVID has not panned out. But with a large number of unvaccinated people and continuing mutation/variants, that jump to airborne could certainly be coming.
Thank you for clarifying. I knew from the videos that in order to NOT drop down quickly that the CV had to hitchhike on droplets of some visible size. I was close, but maybe........no cigar!

[jimjamuser]

Buried in the fine print of Monday's approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration of the Pfizer Comirnaty COVID vaccine are two critical facts that affect whether the vaccine can be mandated, and whether Pfizer can be held liable for injuries

Monday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a biologics license application for the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine.

The press reported that vaccine mandates are now legal for military, healthcare workers, college students and employees in many industries. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has now required the vaccine for all teachers and school staff. The Pentagon is proceeding with its mandate for all military service members.

But there are several bizarre aspects to the FDA approval that will prove confusing to those not familiar with the pervasiveness of the FDA's regulatory capture, or the depths of the agency's cynicism.

First, the FDA acknowledges that while Pfizer has "insufficient stocks" of the newly licensed Comirnaty vaccine available, there is "a significant amount" of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine -- produced under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) -- still available for use.

The FDA decrees that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine under the EUA should remain unlicensed but can be used "interchangeably" (page 2, footnote 8) with the newly licensed Comirnaty product.

Second, the FDA pointed out that the licensed Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine and the existing, EUA Pfizer vaccine are "legally distinct," but proclaims that their differences do not "impact safety or effectiveness."

There is a huge real-world difference between products approved under EUA compared with those the FDA has fully licensed.

EUA products are experimental under U.S. law. Both the Nuremberg Code and federal regulations provide that no one can force a human being to participate in this experiment. Under 21 U.S. Code Sec.360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III), "authorization for medical products for use in emergencies," it is unlawful to deny someone a job or an education because they refuse to be an experimental subject. Instead, potential recipients have an absolute right to refuse EUA vaccines.

U.S. laws, however, permit employers and schools to require students and workers to take licensed vaccines.

EUA-approved COVID vaccines have an extraordinary liability shield under the 2005 Public Readiness and Preparedness Act. Vaccine manufacturers, distributors, providers and government planners are immune from liability. The only way an injured party can sue is if he or she can prove willful misconduct, and if the U.S. government has also brought an enforcement action against the party for willful misconduct. No such lawsuit has ever succeeded.

The government has created an extremely stingy compensation program, the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, to redress injuries from all EUA products. The program's parsimonious administrators have compensated under 4% of petitioners to date -- and not a single COVID vaccine injury -- despite the fact that physicians, families and injured vaccine recipients have reported more than 600,000 COVID vaccine injuries.

At least for the moment, the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine has no liability shield. Vials of the branded product, which say "Comirnaty" on the label, are subject to the same product liability laws as other U.S. products.

When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices places a vaccine on the mandatory schedule, a childhood vaccine benefits from a generous retinue of liability protections.

But licensed adult vaccines, including the new Comirnaty, do not enjoy any liability shield. Just as with Ford's exploding Pinto, or Monsanto's herbicide Roundup, people injured by the Comirnaty vaccine could potentially sue for damages.

And because adults injured by the vaccine will be able to show that the manufacturer knew of the problems with the product, jury awards could be astronomical.

Pfizer is therefore unlikely to allow any American to take a Comirnaty vaccine until it can somehow arrange immunity for this product.

Given this background, the FDA's acknowledgement in its approval letter that there are insufficient stocks of the licensed Comirnaty, but an abundant supply of the EUA Pfizer BioNTech jab, exposes the "approval" as a cynical scheme to encourage businesses and schools to impose illegal jab mandates.

The FDA's clear motivation is to enable Pfizer to quickly unload inventories of a vaccine that science and the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System have exposed as unreasonably dangerous, and that the Delta variant has rendered obsolete.



Americans, told that the Pfizer COVID vaccine is now licensed, will understandably assume COVID vaccine mandates are lawful. But only EUA-authorized vaccines, for which no one has any real liability, will be available during the next few weeks when many school mandate deadlines occur.

The FDA appears to be purposefully tricking American citizens into giving up their right to refuse an experimental product.

While the media has trumpeted that the FDA has approved COVID vaccines, the FDA has not approved the Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, nor any COVID vaccines for the 12- to 15-year age group, nor any booster doses for anyone.

And the FDA has not licensed any Moderna vaccine, nor any vaccine from Johnson & Johnson -- so the vast majority, if not all, of vaccines available in the U.S. remain unlicensed EUA products.

Here's what you need to know when somebody orders you to get the vaccine: Ask to see the vial. If it says "Comirnaty," it's a licensed product.

If it says "Pfizer-BioNTech," it's an experimental product, and under 21 U.S. Code 360bbb, you have the right to refuse.

If it comes from Moderna or Johnson & Johnson (marketed as Janssen), you have the right to refuse.

The FDA is playing bait and switch with the American public -- but we don't have to play along. If it doesn't say Comirnaty, you have not been offered an approved vaccine.
Wow....how short and sweet! However, I disagree with the erroneous conclusions.

[Malsua]

Insane is right! It is also insane that people will stick their arm out for a specialized antibody treatment or take an animal dewormer rather than get a vaccination!

You're not a dog. Seriously, stop taking aspirin.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Do you have a link or source, for that obvious cut & paste?

I googled a copy/paste of the first two lines. I followed the trail. It was published in the Defender, an anti-vax activist website that pushes the conspiracy that vaccines are the reason why children have autism, get chronic fatigue syndrome, and a host of other illnesses.

The founder of this anti-vax organization and the co-writer of the article is Robert F. Kennedy Jr, one of the most prolific anti-vaxxers in the country.

In short, the entire article (and that was a direct copy/paste of MOST of the article without citing the source, which is a copyright violation and against the law), is conspiracy tripe.

Here's the copyright at the bottom of the webpage where the article was published:

© 2016 - 2021 Children's Health Defense® • All Rights Reserved

[Malsua]

is conspiracy tripe.

Ascribing a motive to the drug company is a conspiracy.

Legally though, they have a point. If you are mandated to have an FDA approved drug and you take the current pfizer jab, the EUA applies and you cannot hold Pfizer accountable.

I'm all for Vaxxing people, but legally this is true and every court in the country will side with Pfizer if you get harmed and didn't get Comirnaty.

You can't just use a little hand wavium and say it's the same. Legally, it's not the same. Chemically, it may be, but one offers a legal recourse, the other does not.

[Bill14564]

It is reality the Monoclonal Antibodies treatment is intended for the more contagious Delta Variant. It is best used 10 days of first symptoms and those who are high risk for severe Covid illness. These are the groups who will be going for the Monoclonal Antibodies the Theater in Brownwood. These are the patients who allegedly will be visiting and gathering in the Brownwood square in Restaurants, Stores, etc. This does not mean they shouldn't be treated it means the medical center should be in a non populated area. :ohdear:

Reality (the fact-based one) is that monoclonal antibody treatment existed before "Delta variant" was ever a consideration.

Sure, put the treatment center in an area that is away from patients, difficult to get to, and does not provide adequate parking. Do that if you DON'T want the treatment to be effective.

[Bill14564]

///

[flflowers]

I googled a copy/paste of the first two lines. I followed the trail. It was published in the Defender, an anti-vax activist website that pushes the conspiracy that vaccines are the reason why children have autism, get chronic fatigue syndrome, and a host of other illnesses.

The founder of this anti-vax organization and the co-writer of the article is Robert F. Kennedy Jr, one of the most prolific anti-vaxxers in the country.

In short, the entire article (and that was a direct copy/paste of MOST of the article without citing the source, which is a copyright violation and against the law), is conspiracy tripe.


Here's the copyright at the bottom of the webpage where the article was published:

© 2016 - 2021 Children's Health Defense® • All Rights Reserved

I have a vaccine injured nephew, so just because you may not have anyone in your family that is vaccine injured does NOT mean that it does not happen....he was perfectly developing until about age 3. After series of vaccines including MMR, he became non-verbal and diagnosed with Austism. His mother has to take him into urgent care when he screams in pain, they know him by name there. He cannot tell here why he is hurting when refuses to walk or use his arms when in pain....that comes and goes and is very random. She will never hear him say " I love you, Mommy" ...he is 10 years old now and has worn diapers again since he was three, after being potty trained! Don't tell me vaccines, particularly the MMR, don't cause Autism. There are so many moms out there that have their stories if you ever care to listen

[meboyle]

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:

I completely agree. It’s asinine. Parking is in the back. I hope they will enter through the back to get the infusion. They will have to sit for a while. I hope they can make it.
Walking into the square must not be allowed..crazy stuff.

[kathyspear]

I have a vaccine injured nephew, so just because you may not have anyone in your family that is vaccine injured does NOT mean that it does not happen....

When my son was 3 he attended a preschool program for handicapped kids. One of his classmates was a little girl who appeared to have cerebral palsy. Her mother said she was perfectly normal and healthy until she had one of the typical childhood vaccines and within 24 hours she lost all her muscle tone. The mother said it was a known, albeit rare, condition. (It was decades ago so I don't remember the name.) They thought she would eventually regain much of what she lost but it would take years of therapy.

I never considered NOT vaccinating my kids but I do understand parents who are afraid to do so.

kathy

[jswirs]

Medical Scientists found a SOLUTION to smallpox and polio. They did NOT accept it. Way back then people were either different or smarter than people today......they took the DAMN vaccine and magic, magic NO MORE smallpox and polio. What has gone wrong with the US people today - it hurts my head to think about that!

OK, so, I have a MOST HUMBLE SUGGESTION for your your hurting head,...DON'T THINK ABOUT IT!

[jswirs]

Couldn't agree more:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
...and, boys and girls, don't forget to tune in next week for the adventures of SUPERMAN, and his never ending battle for truth, justice and the American way! (Wow, it's amazing, I can remember what happened 60 years ago, but I can't remember what happened yesterday. Oh well, CRS strikes again!)

[drducat]

Ascribing a motive to the drug company is a conspiracy.

Legally though, they have a point. If you are mandated to have an FDA approved drug and you take the current pfizer jab, the EUA applies and you cannot hold Pfizer accountable.

I'm all for Vaxxing people, but legally this is true and every court in the country will side with Pfizer if you get harmed and didn't get Comirnaty.

You can't just use a little hand wavium and say it's the same. Legally, it's not the same. Chemically, it may be, but one offers a legal recourse, the other does not.

Correct!

When Comirnaty is available (late 2022/2023) then BioNTech is liable for any adverse reactions and not Pfizer. Same formula different label.

[Mrprez]

I completely agree. It’s asinine. Parking is in the back. I hope they will enter through the back to get the infusion. They will have to sit for a while. I hope they can make it.
Walking into the square must not be allowed..crazy stuff.

There are signs everywhere directing people to the side entrance.

[Love2Swim]

I agree with those that think the decision to house this facility in a Town Square is not a good one. The Savannah Center is more away from people, fine. I personally will avoid Brownwood for awhile, and I know others that will do so too.

[Mrprez]

I agree with those that think the decision to house this facility in a Town Square is not a good one. The Savannah Center is more away from people, fine. I personally will avoid Brownwood for awhile, and I know others that will do so too.

That’s a personal decision only you can make. Leaves more room for the rest of us.

[Gmaf6]

Having been fully vaccinated (Jan/Feb) and recently becoming very ill with CoVid, I'm very grateful for this treatment. I had to travel to Orlando to get it. If they follow the same protocols that were followed there, it's very safe and provides no danger to anyone else. Within 48 hours, I was remarkedly better and this treatment pretty much saved me from going to the hospital. The fact that we have this option is a God Send.

[DAVES]

I too am guilty. It is far easier to object to what is being done than to actually do something and address problems.

[WinnieHa]

It is a very dumb idea. We frequent the restaurants at Brownwood at least 3 times a week; if there are people with Covid 19 known to be in the area, we will be nowhere near there. Clearly, this will bring people that have tested positive for Covid 19 into a densely populated, high risk area and it is just bone-headed. I am glad that people will have access to treatment but there has to be so many better places to do it. Also, the full embrace of these treatment drugs while keeping the idea of the vaccine/mask wearing at arm’s length is quite puzzling to me.

[Bill14564]

NIMBY always puts a bad taste in my mouth.

I think the theater is a GREAT location for this. Logistically it makes a lot of sense (see post #2) and if someone I care about needs the treatment I would much rather have a location that is close and without a crowded waiting room.

I have mixed feelings about the reactions to this. On the one hand, I would argue that the fearful are foolish: I was at the square last night and will likely be there again tonight. On the other hand, the more who stay away, the more room for me.

[jswirs]

It is a very dumb idea. We frequent the restaurants at Brownwood at least 3 times a week; if there are people with Covid 19 known to be in the area, we will be nowhere near there. Clearly, this will bring people that have tested positive for Covid 19 into a densely populated, high risk area and it is just bone-headed. I am glad that people will have access to treatment but there has to be so many better places to do it. Also, the full embrace of these treatment drugs while keeping the idea of the vaccine/mask wearing at arm’s length is quite puzzling to me.

...and the beat goes on, seems there is no end to it...however, we should all do what makes us feel comfortable, that is, if possible.

[Chi-Town]

Let's just say that the location in a movie theater in the middle of a town square is bad optics.