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Andrea3051
12-26-2021, 11:23 AM
I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....

billethkid
12-26-2021, 11:36 AM
The thousands of homes available/being rented in TV should be an indicator.

retiredguy123
12-26-2021, 11:47 AM
It's not unique to The Villages. I wouldn't expect renters to be treated the same as owners anywhere. I don't see an issue if, as you say, they are friendly and not hostile. Owners have more of a stake in the community than renters. It's human nature.

charlieo1126@gmail.com
12-26-2021, 11:50 AM
I can assure you it has nothing to do with being a renter, especially if your place is kept up , Ive had 6 homes here and barely knew my neighbors, there are others like me who like to socialize outside there neighborhoods , that’s possibly how the people you may be meeting feel .The last thing I ever want is a neighbor who feel they can just knock on my door to ask me how it’s going and how about a cup of coffee , yuck !!Go Patriots

Decadeofdave
12-26-2021, 11:56 AM
Not my experience, rented in 4 different villages for 8 years, a month at a time, before purchasing. Neighbors were always friendly. I am friendly to renters in my neighborhood.

Velvet
12-26-2021, 12:02 PM
Renters are welcome by the people they rent from. For other owners, renters are here today, gone tomorrow.

Topspinmo
12-26-2021, 12:26 PM
I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....

Sometimes depends on how close to square you are? When I rented good majority of houses in the CYV’s was rentals ( close to Spanish springs), the few neighbors in there wasn’t pleased with all rental and traffic. One even said I couldn’t be in there pool. Which was close to where I was renting. Then, there the slumlords that rent by the day/week which Hugh turn over, so you can see why some next door that would not be too excited to see turn-overs every few days. Why even put yourself in that situation? Just don’t tell them or avoid the subject, or say I know an’t if awful? :shocked:

DAVES
12-26-2021, 12:44 PM
I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....

There is no answer to this question except it depends. We know that all people are not the same and yet we tend to think they are example, renters vs owners. People 55 vs 85 hair color etc etc etc.

We discuss one issue at a time and yet reality is never that way. With covid people do not get out as much. Home bound may have soured your views-that is normal.

"I may no longer be able to buy here." It is true that prices have gone up here but prices have gone up everywhere. You need to review your finances and decide what you can afford. Almost fortunately, I grew up POOR. To quote a friend, I was an overnight success. It only took me 45 years of hard work. Being happy is a choice. No matter what you have, others will have more. Enjoy what you have

DAVES
12-26-2021, 12:55 PM
Sometimes depends on how close to square you are? When I rented good majority of houses in the CYV’s was rentals ( close to Spanish springs), the few neighbors in there wasn’t pleased with all rental and traffic. One even said I couldn’t be in there pool. Which was close to where I was renting. Then, there the slumlords that rent by the day/week which Hugh turn over, so you can see why some next door that would not be too excited to see turn-overs every few days. Why even put yourself in that situation? Just don’t tell them or avoid the subject, or say I know an’t if awful? :shocked:

I proudly have a strange view of things. Many do, but if you allow others OPINIONS to effect your self opinion, you give them power that should be and is yours.

Tale of the pool. "I couldn't be in there pool." I assume a typeo, should be their pool.
In any case there are some strange rules around here also some strange people. I would check what the real story is. There are some pools where people can swim laps.
Some people assume they are chiefs. They need to be told off. Well enough so they realize you will not put up with their xxxxxx. As above, you may have given them power that should be yours.

Stu from NYC
12-26-2021, 01:28 PM
Renters are welcome by the people they rent from. For other owners, renters are here today, gone tomorrow.

Why invest time in building a friendship with someone here here today gone tomorrow?

Having said friendly chats are great. Have met some fascinating people here.

JMintzer
12-26-2021, 01:33 PM
There are no generic "renters". Just people who rent. They come in all shapes, sizes and personalities... Just like the Frogs who are here full time...

When we rented last year (for two months, prior to buying), we never met anyone who treated us rudely or indifferently when we told them we were renting...

Now that we've moved in (albeit part time), we've met several neighbors on the street, several have stopped by and we've had dinner with others...

Oddly, we rarely, if ever, see the one's on either side of us... People can be strange...

paulat585
12-26-2021, 01:39 PM
I've rented long and short term in three different neighborhoods. Some people were friendly all the time--even during lockdown. Some people were friendly only when they wanted me to contact my landlord re an issue. Some ignored me all the time, even if I spoke to them. People wanted to know how long I'd be renting, so I tend to think along the same lines as the poster who asked why invest in people who would be here today and gone tomorrow.

Velvet
12-26-2021, 01:54 PM
And during Covid you don’t get to see the friendly side of some people. Those who are especially vulnerable to the effects of Covid are going to frown upon you every time you try to approach them without the social distancing or mask on. They will back off to a safer situation. That behavior might be the opposite of what they do when they feel more comfortable. This is not only towards renters though, anyone can be a carrier.

justjim
12-26-2021, 02:52 PM
It doesn’t matter if you rent or own, you can’t pick your neighbors. Some (neighbors) are hospitable and friendly and some not so much. That said we have rented and owned in five different Villages the last fifteen years, and the one time we rented, the neighbors were in the not so much category. The four homes we have owned, one of those was in the not so much category. The house we currently own in The Villages is definitely in the hospitable and friendly category. Again, you can’t choose your neighbors. It’s like throwing a dart onto a dart board from 30 feet.

Mortal1
12-26-2021, 03:27 PM
The thousands of homes available/being rented in TV should be an indicator.

some people buy as an investment and it has nothing to do with being an indicator of anything, but their ability to invest in such things. Perhaps you could clarify...that would be nice.

fdpaq0580
12-26-2021, 03:43 PM
People can be strange...

Hey! I resemble that remark! 😋😋

Madelaine Amee
12-26-2021, 05:10 PM
I prefer permanent residents to renters, only because usually renters are here for a short time and then gone, never to be seen again.

Malsua
12-26-2021, 05:21 PM
I prefer permanent residents to renters, only because usually renters are here for a short time and then gone, never to be seen again.

Some renters are scouting homes. I know quite a few folks who bought after they rented a season or two.

jbartle1
12-26-2021, 05:22 PM
I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....

We are all renting space on this earth.

asianthree
12-26-2021, 06:56 PM
How many times on this forum has the post “ high season wouldn’t be a problem if the renters, and snowbirds stayed away. Just food for thought. That first post will start in a week.:MOJE_whot::ohdear:

I do become a “Renter”, when some drive by door knocker stops by. They leave immediately soon as you say I am a renter. :a040:

We have never rented, 2 lifestyle visits, bought on the second trip.

Spalumbos62
12-26-2021, 07:21 PM
I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....

We've had mostly great luck with our renters, most are like someone said, checking out the different neighborhoods before buying. I fact, my place just opened up for January and we'd love to get another nice renter into it, pm me if interested

coffeebean
12-27-2021, 05:50 AM
How many times on this forum has the post “ high season wouldn’t be a problem if the renters, and snowbirds stayed away. Just food for thought. That first post will start in a week.:MOJE_whot::ohdear:

I do become a “Renter”, when some drive by door knocker stops by. They leave immediately soon as you say I am a renter. :a040:

We have never rented, 2 lifestyle visits, bought on the second trip.

We had one lifestyle visit and bought our "seasonal" villa on that trip. It is true what they say not to bring your checkbook with you or you just might buy something when you see this place. So true in our case. We had not planned on purchasing but we did. The Villages has to be seen to be believed. A few years later we sold the villa and purchased our forever home. LOVE it here.

RICH1
12-27-2021, 06:00 AM
I can assure you it has nothing to do with being a renter, especially if your place is kept up , Ive had 6 homes here and barely knew my neighbors, there are others like me who like to socialize outside there neighborhoods , that’s possibly how the people you may be meeting feel .The last thing I ever want is a neighbor who feel they can just knock on my door to ask me how it’s going and how about a cup of coffee , yuck !!Go Patriots
And I am the opposite… I always enjoy a neighbor stopping over for coffee or a beer!

thevillages2013
12-27-2021, 06:19 AM
I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....
How long is your lease? It may be time to start looking for another place to rent when your lease is up.

justjim
12-27-2021, 08:07 AM
We are all renting space on this earth.

We are leasing from the government. The amount you pay is in your real estate tax bill you receive each year. :mademyday:

MrFlorida
12-27-2021, 10:08 AM
A lot of people will not invest in a friendship with renters, tomorrow they will be gone, and a new renter will appear. Nothing against renters, but not worth the time making a new friendship with somebody who will never be seen again.

Wyseguy
12-27-2021, 10:18 AM
Oddly, we rarely, if ever, see the one's on either side of us... People can be strange...[/QUOTE]


... when you're a stranger.

davem4616
12-27-2021, 10:20 AM
the law of attraction has very little to do with being a homeowner or a renter...just saying

Blackbird45
12-28-2021, 06:08 AM
As cold as this may seem, many owners after withdrawing the initial information from a renter move on knowing to establish a true relationship with a renter is a waste of time since they will be gone once the weather changes.

Life as I know it
12-28-2021, 06:08 AM
We have moved four times here in the Villages. We have been happy with all of our neighbors but we found that we need to maintain a little distance from the neighbors who would show up at our door without calling first. We try to balance our social life between our neighbors and our personal friends.
As far as renters, we do not have any rentals in our immediate neighborhood but if we did I would be friendly with them, invite them to our block parties but unless we had a lot of the same interests I would just be friendly. Like one poster said they are here today and gone tomorrow.

CarrieOn
12-28-2021, 06:39 AM
I meet lots of renters on the P ball courts and are sad to see them have such a short stay.. but good news most have bought.. I avoid any negativity and just move on & find someone happy..

mike234
12-28-2021, 06:42 AM
I proudly have a strange view of things. Many do, but if you allow others OPINIONS to effect your self opinion, you give them power that should be and is yours.

Tale of the pool. "I couldn't be in there pool." I assume a typeo, should be their pool.
In any case there are some strange rules around here also some strange people. I would check what the real story is. There are some pools where people can swim laps.
Some people assume they are chiefs. They need to be told off. Well enough so they realize you will not put up with their xxxxxx. As above, you may have given them power that should be yours.
I love people who correct grammar and other peoples spelling. you very graciously corrected the word their and there. that's important. are you sure you used the word effect vs affect correctly?

mike234
12-28-2021, 06:55 AM
I proudly have a strange view of things. Many do, but if you allow others OPINIONS to effect your self opinion, you give them power that should be and is yours.

Tale of the pool. "I couldn't be in there pool." I assume a typeo, should be their pool.
In any case there are some strange rules around here also some strange people. I would check what the real story is. There are some pools where people can swim laps.
Some people assume they are chiefs. They need to be told off. Well enough so they realize you will not put up with their xxxxxx. As above, you may have given them power that should be yours.
oh, and also, typeo? I mean if you are going to correct someone, and try to embarrass them, then maybe check yourself also?

chenault55
12-28-2021, 07:28 AM
I proudly have a strange view of things. Many do, but if you allow others OPINIONS to effect your self opinion, you give them power that should be and is yours.

Tale of the pool. "I couldn't be in there pool." I assume a typeo, should be their pool.
In any case there are some strange rules around here also some strange people. I would check what the real story is. There are some pools where people can swim laps.
Some people assume they are chiefs. They need to be told off. Well enough so they realize you will not put up with their xxxxxx. As above, you may have given them power that should be yours.

I would imagine the pool they were not welcome was one of the resident only pools but there are plenty of others here they can go to.

JMintzer
12-28-2021, 07:50 AM
As cold as this may seem, many owners after withdrawing the initial information from a renter move on knowing to establish a true relationship with a renter is a waste of time since they will be gone once the weather changes.

Well, my wife still plays golf and Mah Jong with women she met when we were renting...

mike234
12-28-2021, 08:06 AM
I would imagine the pool they were not welcome was one of the resident only pools but there are plenty of others here they can go to.
I did not know that there were "resident only pools?" are you saying renters with proper I. D. can't go to your so called resident only pools? if they exist?

Petersweeney
12-28-2021, 08:28 AM
The house next door to me had 4 different occupiers since 12/2017….most renters don’t care about the property and it shows…

msilagy
12-28-2021, 08:30 AM
Of course you’re not wrong. Many people are not too engaging with renters. Consider where they originate from. Southern hospitality is not prevalent here.

retiredguy123
12-28-2021, 08:36 AM
I would imagine the pool they were not welcome was one of the resident only pools but there are plenty of others here they can go to.
What is a resident only pool? I have never heard of any pools being restricted to residents only.

retiredguy123
12-28-2021, 08:38 AM
I did not know that there were "resident only pools?" are you saying renters with proper I. D. can't go to your so called resident only pools? if they exist?
I don't think there are any. Some of the country clubs have pools that are restricted to club members.

smitty2karen
12-28-2021, 08:39 AM
I hope this is not true. I am arriving on Saturday and will be renting for 3 months. I was hoping to meet new people while I am in TV. Was looking forward to it until reading this.

ThirdOfFive
12-28-2021, 08:40 AM
It is a topic that seems to pop up from time to time. Attitudes toward renters, snowbirds, lifestyle people, etc. The best answer, one already mentioned, is that "it depends".

Depends on a lot of things. Where people come from seems to make a difference; people seem to be more or less open depending on where they come from. But for us, it depends more on commonality of values and interests than on anything else. We've made friends with renters who were gone in a month and who may or may not be coming back (but we still maintain contact). Conversely we have neighbors to whom we scarcely even have interaction beyond a superficial "hello".

rustyp
12-28-2021, 08:41 AM
I love people who correct grammar and other peoples spelling. you very graciously corrected the word their and there. that's important. are you sure you used the word effect vs affect correctly?

The Y in you and the T in that's should be capitalized. Can you find another Waldo ?

mike234
12-28-2021, 08:55 AM
The Y in you and the T in that's should be capitalized. Can you find another Waldo ?
ya, thanks, and I know that..........I am not the grammar police. but some are.

Marine1974
12-28-2021, 09:08 AM
So many renters and rentals in the villages which drive home prices .
Without renters , owners would see their home values drop significantly. But go ahead and keep harping on renters .

asianthree
12-28-2021, 09:11 AM
I would imagine the pool they were not welcome was one of the resident only pools but there are plenty of others here they can go to.

Chenault55, Member since 2012, still misinformed about pools. Adult, family, sports, and country club pools which require a priority membership. But no resident only pools.

mike234
12-28-2021, 09:18 AM
I don't think there are any. Some of the country clubs have pools that are restricted to club members.
some country club pools are restricted to club members? well, I defiantly do not know what that is.

justjim
12-28-2021, 09:31 AM
I hope this is not true. I am arriving on Saturday and will be renting for 3 months. I was hoping to meet new people while I am in TV. Was looking forward to it until reading this.

Not to worry smitty2karen as there are lots and lots of friendly people in The Villages. Don’t let my post or any other scare you away or make a quick negative judgement of the residents of The Villages. There are approximately 135,000 people living either part-time or full time in The Villages. We come from every State and from all “walks of life”. That said most are retired and the vast majority are some of the most interesting, kind and considerate people you will find anywhere on the planet. Safe travels and enjoy your time in The Villages.

nn0wheremann
12-28-2021, 09:31 AM
I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....
We rented for a year before buying a few years ago. We noticed the same treatment. However, when we bought in another village we found the few renters in the neighborhood were most welcome.

Rsenholzi
12-28-2021, 09:37 AM
I found before I bought , it depended on the neighborhood I rented in. Some were really open and welcoming and others were just plain awful. You need to feel out the area you pick. Once I bought , I always make sure all feel welcome. A renter is treated no differently than an owner in my neighborhood. Keep searching and you will eventually find one you like




I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....

mike234
12-28-2021, 09:38 AM
I went to the always welcoming orange blossom pool. not. I was asked by a resident, of all people, was I a priority person. I replied "I think so"
in 5 minutes the pool patrol was in my face, asking for my credentials. they walked away, embarrassed, and I just smiled. if I had a picture, it would be priceless.

charlieo1126@gmail.com
12-28-2021, 09:40 AM
I hope this is not true. I am arriving on Saturday and will be renting for 3 months. I was hoping to meet new people while I am in TV. Was looking forward to it until reading this.don’t pay attention to this stuff , I don’t know anyone who cares about whether your a renter or live here and I’ve had 6 different homes here ,and with ID you’ll receive you are welcome in all the pools except some country club pools that you have to pay a little extra. I have rented out my homes for 3 months in winter most years I’ve been here , by the time I got back my renters had made more friends in my neighborhood then I had . Welcome to the villages

Ele201
12-28-2021, 09:59 AM
I have to say I enjoyed reading your post. Good life advice there! Thanks. Just one thing though: Covid isn’t keeping everyone home. Whenever I visit Brownwood Paddock, it’s packed! There is no answer to this question except it depends. We know that all people are not the same and yet we tend to think they are example, renters vs owners. People 55 vs 85 hair color etc etc etc.

We discuss one issue at a time and yet reality is never that way. With covid people do not get out as much. Home bound may have soured your views-that is normal.

"I may no longer be able to buy here." It is true that prices have gone up here but prices have gone up everywhere. You need to review your finances and decide what you can afford. Almost fortunately, I grew up POOR. To quote a friend, I was an overnight success. It only took me 45 years of hard work. Being happy is a choice. No matter what you have, others will have more. Enjoy what you have

DAVES
12-28-2021, 10:08 AM
Why invest time in building a friendship with someone here here today gone tomorrow?

Having said friendly chats are great. Have met some fascinating people here.

Friends is yet another book. Friends is another word so overused that it has lost all meaning. One of my FRIENDS told me his daughter has 2,000 friends on facebook.
My reply was and she knows who two of them are.

Two Bills
12-28-2021, 10:24 AM
I hope this is not true. I am arriving on Saturday and will be renting for 3 months. I was hoping to meet new people while I am in TV. Was looking forward to it until reading this.

Wife and I have rented for over twenty years.
No problems.
Only missed last winter and this one because of Covid restrictions.

Ele201
12-28-2021, 10:26 AM
Good one!! True, that.

Ele201
12-28-2021, 10:32 AM
I love people who correct grammar and other peoples spelling. you very graciously corrected the word their and there. that's important. are you sure you used the word effect vs affect correctly? You’re right there, it’s affect, not effect that’s correct!

Velvet
12-28-2021, 10:42 AM
[QUOTE=retiredguy123;2043562]What is a resident only pool? I have never heard of any pools being restricted to residents only.[/

‘Sport Pools

Be sure to check the sport pool activity schedule before you go. Schedules are available in the Recreation News insert, on pool bulletin boards or by calling the center where the pool is located. Sport pools are designated for exercise programming.

All Villages sport pools are for residents only (age 30 and older).’

JMintzer
12-28-2021, 10:43 AM
I hope this is not true. I am arriving on Saturday and will be renting for 3 months. I was hoping to meet new people while I am in TV. Was looking forward to it until reading this.

Not to worry. You'll meet plenty of nice people...

TOTV is not representative of TV as a whole...

https://c.tenor.com/9TOWPWEZav8AAAAC/scum-wretched.gif

fdpaq0580
12-28-2021, 11:00 AM
You’re right there, it’s affect, not effect that’s correct!

Auto correct often inserts what it wants. I always re-read my post before sending and nearly always have to correct things or reenter parts that were deleted. Occasionally it will make changes as I hit the submit button. I then have to edit my post, but I have had responses asking me what I mean before I can complete the edit. Because of my experience with this phenomenon, I rarely comment on another's use of incorrect spelling or choice of words, unless I find it funny.

mike234
12-28-2021, 11:08 AM
Auto correct often inserts what it wants. I always re-read my post before sending and nearly always have to correct things or reenter parts that were deleted. Occasionally it will make changes as I hit the submit button. I then have to edit my post, but I have had responses asking me what I mean before I can complete the edit. Because of my experience with this phenomenon, I rarely comment on another's use of incorrect spelling or choice of words, unless I find it funny.
yes. thank you ele, and fdpaq. why do people insist on correcting others spelling and grammar, when we know what they are trying to say? it may be a "I am smarter than you thing? I don't know.

and the original poster, has no clue yet.

tedquick
12-28-2021, 11:33 AM
I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....


Instead of pouring through each post here I’ll just give you my opinion. To begin with, hopefully you don’t take any of the “lack of friendliness” personally. Many people are more inclined to be friendlier to those who are here permanently than they are those who are only here temporarily. That’s nothing against the renter, there is simply more “relationship” potential with an owner: having said that, I also enjoy chatting with those who are only here temporarily. Just yesterday our golf group had a gentleman who is only here for two weeks join our threesome and we had a ball. We even enjoyed lunch with him. He may even golf with us next week before he returns to his home.

I’ve been here seven years and don’t know the names of the people directly across the street from me yet have become close personal friends with a couple who are about ten homes away. Some people click and others don’t. There is no judgement in that. We have become good friends with two people who are only here off and on. They stay in the home right next to us when they are here, which may be for a couple weeks only to be gone then for months, never knowing when they will return, yet none of that makes any difference. We enjoy each other’s company when they’re here. We occasionally share meals with them either at their place or at ours. We occasionally go to church together. We have become close to each other but that’s only because we “click”. It has nothing to do with permanency or ownership. Such is the mysterious happenstance of “friendship”.

Enjoy your time here. Enjoy meeting new people. Enjoy the potential for friendship vs. acquaintanceship. Just know that when the chemistry is there a new friendship will exhibit itself and it will flourish. Keep in mind that some of the people you meet you won’t like and they won’t like you. There are those who you will meet that you will get along with and enjoy occasionally, while there are those with whom you will develop close and personal relationships. Be patient.

Such are the lives of us humans. Never take perceived rejection personally as it’s probably simply “not meant to be”. Enjoy life’s trip. It is a once-in-a-lifetime event and it is meant to be enjoyed and when we are patient it will be enjoyed and shared with others.

mskaggs
12-28-2021, 11:36 AM
Sometimes renters land in a friendly neighborhood who welcomes renters, sometimes not. My family member who comes occasionally was warmly embraced by her neighbors, and another house she owns is in a neighborhood where the neighbors hate renters. I have renters who live across the street from me, and I knocked on their door to welcome them. Now we hang at my fire pit and gold together.

My suggestion is if you can scope out a neighborhood before you pull the trigger on a property. Find the community’s Facebook group and join that. You will probably get a really good sense of it there.

jimjamuser
12-28-2021, 01:14 PM
Why invest time in building a friendship with someone here here today gone tomorrow?

Having said friendly chats are great. Have met some fascinating people here.
Because it is possible to keep in touch by various social media and possible to could ask them a question and they give back a VALUABLE fact or opinion. Also, they likely could be back!

Luggage
12-28-2021, 03:47 PM
There certainly are a lot of stuck-up people in The Villages

MrFlorida
12-28-2021, 03:51 PM
There certainly are a lot of stuck-up people in The Villages

I wouldn't exactly call them Stuck Up, more like unfriendly. There is a difference.

rjsantos592
12-28-2021, 03:53 PM
Live your life and don't worry about others.🙂

OrangeBlossomBaby
12-28-2021, 03:59 PM
We have some awesome tenants in our neighborhood. It's mostly owner-occupied but there are a decent chunk of rentals. Most of them I don't know at all, some of them I know and get along with fine, and a couple who I would consider "neighbor-friends" - the ones who are invited to each others' driveway parties, visited when we're outside, help out when a hand is needed, know about the cousin having gall bladder surgery, etc.

Most of our owner-occupied residents are terrific as well. Sadly, there's one neighbor who most of us wished WAS a tenant - because that'd mean they'd eventually be outta there. Alas - we're stuck with them for an indefinite period, because they own the house and don't seem interested in moving any time soon.

Calisport
12-28-2021, 06:38 PM
some people have a dislike for snow birds so that can give you a clue to how they feel about renters. There should be no care if you are a responsible, nice neighbor. There is always worry in any neighborhood with a lot of renters.

DaleDivine
12-28-2021, 09:13 PM
Chenault55, Member since 2012, still misinformed about pools. Adult, family, sports, and country club pools which require a priority membership. But no resident only pools.

The Sports pools are for residents only. NO GUESTS are allowed in them. I think this is what they were referring to. I'm not sure if renters are allowed in them.
SPORTS POOLS
7:00AM – Dusk
Residents Only 30+
These pools have specific
schedules of activities:
Lap swim, water walk, water
exercise programs, water
volleyball, etc. Be sure to
check the sports pool activity
schedule before you go.

:bigbow::bigbow:

asianthree
12-28-2021, 09:51 PM
The Sports pools are for residents only. NO GUESTS are allowed in them. I think this is what they were referring to. I'm not sure if renters are allowed in them.
SPORTS POOLS
7:00AM – Dusk
Residents Only 30+
These pools have specific
schedules of activities:
Lap swim, water walk, water
exercise programs, water
volleyball, etc. Be sure to
check the sports pool activity
schedule before you go.

:bigbow::bigbow:

Started coming to TV in 07, one can find what event is at each sports pool. Yes anyone with a resident pass can use the sports pools, so a renter, with a resident pass can attend any event at any sports pool. So fine line on resident only pools, you don’t have to be a owner to use them. So your question if renters can use the sports pools is , yes they can. Just pay your landlord for the pass. Our tenants both use sports pools everyday, even when it’s really cold.

ML Smith
12-28-2021, 09:53 PM
Personal opinion here. This might be your imagination. We rented for 3* months and the neighbors we had were wonderful. Even though we moved out if that particular Village I still stay in touch with them. With that said where you are ppl may not want to invest the time knowing you are going to move. But hang in there. The majority of folks here are very nice.

rustyp
12-29-2021, 06:04 AM
[QUOTE=retiredguy123;2043562]What is a resident only pool? I have never heard of any pools being restricted to residents only.[/

‘Sport Pools

Be sure to check the sport pool activity schedule before you go. Schedules are available in the Recreation News insert, on pool bulletin boards or by calling the center where the pool is located. Sport pools are designated for exercise programming.

All Villages sport pools are for residents only (age 30 and older).’

Renters are considered residents providing the landlord surrendered their amenity property rights I.E. $50. Thus yes a renter can use a sports pool with the proper ID card (not a guest card) and needs be over 30 years old.

ThirdOfFive
12-29-2021, 08:04 AM
There certainly are a lot of stuck-up people in The Villages
It is interesting that the "stuck up" (AKA unfriendly, jerks, selfish, etc. etc.) get so much notice in these discussions.

Something akin to the bad drivers. We all see 'em and complain about 'em, but does anyone actually realize that they get so much notice because of their relative rarity? Sometimes the streets and freeways up at home resembled giant pinball machines: that, with much LESS traffic than is down here.

Golf carts? Well, not many of them in Minnesota, but the principle is the same. I tested it out on a few of my walks lately. On on walk I counted over 150 carts on a four-mile stretch. Precisely TWO were driving in what I perceived to be a reckless or dangerous manner. Were I going with the expectation I'd have gotten from reading these discussions, I would have expected no less than probably twenty times that number. But human nature being what it is, I definitely remembered the two jerks.

To use a colloquialism from where I hail from, they stood out like two t_rds in a punch bowl. But were the t_rds in the majority, I doubt we'd even be discussing them.

Laker14
12-29-2021, 08:39 AM
I have rented in the past. I liken it to being the new kid in school. Nobody from the 'hood knocked on my door to say "Welcome, Renter", but I had a neighbor with whom I shared an allegiance to a college football team, and that became the nucleus of friendship. We never were invited to their home, but then we never invited them over either. We rented for two seasons in that neighborhood, 4 months and 5 months.
I never felt "unwelcome", but I never felt included. There are a few things that worked against inclusion, and not things that reflect on the neighbors as being unwelcoming.
Part of it is the seasonality. I own now but I am still seasonal, and frankly, my neighbors have been very friendly, but they have relationships with each other that go back years, and they are here year round. That makes it a little slower process to become immersed.
Another issue was COVID. The two years we rented were affected by that, and I don't think even the established neighbors were doing that much socializing. It certainly wasn't a good environment for asking strangers into one's home.
Also, as someone else mentioned, there was a pretty marked age difference. Generally, I suspect renters are more newly retired, maybe just feeling out the idea of snowbirding in general, or TV in particular. The residents of the neighborhood might likely have been doing that very thing a decade ago, and have long since made TV their home.

COVID will eventually normalize, and all of the other factors can be overcome with time, friendliness, and courtesy, but it's a process. It's not so much, IMO that the neighbors don't want to invest in it, as that the renters aren't around long enough to assimilate.

Two Bills
12-29-2021, 09:26 AM
/// Duplicate.

Two Bills
12-29-2021, 09:29 AM
There certainly are a lot of stuck-up people in The Villages

I often get accused of being stuck up, but I am not.
I am just anti-social!:icon_wink:

Chasam75
12-29-2021, 11:45 AM
I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....

I think The Villages should stop homeowners from renting out their properties and/or people purchasing properties simply as an investment to rent. - Chasam

JMintzer
12-29-2021, 05:21 PM
I often get accused of being stuck up, but I am not.
I am just anti-social!:icon_wink:

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Tom1916
12-31-2021, 10:03 PM
Every home around me are rentals, NO I don't like renters and the dogs they bring with them to trash the neighborhood and my yard. There are more rentals than year round owner homes and then there are the part time owners, not much better. Last year I has renters selling drugs across the street from me, that was scary!!!!

PugMom
01-01-2022, 09:51 AM
I often get accused of being stuck up, but I am not.
I am just anti-social!:icon_wink:

:1rotfl::1rotfl: oh, you~!

PugMom
01-01-2022, 10:33 AM
I hope this is not true. I am arriving on Saturday and will be renting for 3 months. I was hoping to meet new people while I am in TV. Was looking forward to it until reading this.

it is true & it isn't. we have a home next door that the owners only visit 1,2x per year. the rest of the time, it's rented out to family members &/or friends, & on occasion to 'strangers.'
we are very cordial to anyone in the home, but do not have the time to establish friendships. it doesnt mean we arent friendly, but i have a full plate 24/7. each household is different, but if you have a dog, it makes meeting people a cinch. best of luck to you & really hope you enjoy your stay! you'll be back, lol :icon_wink:

tophcfa
01-01-2022, 11:06 AM
I think any homeowner that doesn’t rent would prefer that others around them wouldn’t rent as well. However, it’s all about selling new homes. Putting restrictions on rentals, and vigorously enforcing those restrictions, would eliminate a significant source of demand for new homes. Additionally, renters spend money to support local businesses, some that might not exist without the additional revenue. Therefore, rental restrictions aren’t happening. Personally, I don’t have a problem with long term rentals to 55+ tenants. It’s the short term AIRBNB type rentals and rentals to younger people that tend to not be in harmony with the existing neighborhoods.

OrangeBlossomBaby
01-01-2022, 11:16 AM
I think any homeowner that doesn’t rent would prefer that others around them wouldn’t rent as well. However, it’s all about selling new homes. Putting restrictions on rentals, and vigorously enforcing those restrictions, would eliminate a significant source of demand for new homes. Additionally, renters spend money to support local businesses, some that might not exist without the additional revenue. Therefore, rental restrictions aren’t happening. Personally, I don’t have a problem with long term rentals to 55+ tenants. It’s the short term AIRBNB type rentals and rentals to younger people that tend to not be in harmony with the existing neighborhoods.

One thing I can get behind 100% (which won't happen, but this is a "I wish" thread so it's a wish, not a request):

New Rules:

Rentals are allowed. No homeowner may rent more than one unit at any given time (that reduces multi-unit landlord investment schemes). A homeowner may allow family to reside in a separate unit owned by them, with the following restriction: At least 1 resident in that unit must be 55 years old or older. ALL OTHER residents in that unit must be 30 years old or older. No one under 30 is permitted to reside in any rental unit at any time, for any reason. No exceptions will be made.

Visitors in a rental unit may be under 30 but they may stay no longer than 1 week in any 12-month rotating period. So they can't stay the last week of December and the first week of January. Any visitor under age 30 found using ANY amenities without the resident's presence at that amenity will result in the tenant losing their right to have guests at all.

Andrea3051
01-01-2022, 01:16 PM
Every home around me are rentals, NO I don't like renters and the dogs they bring with them to trash the neighborhood and my yard. There are more rentals than year round owner homes and then there are the part time owners, not much better. Last year I has renters selling drugs across the street from me, that was scary!!!!
As a previous homeowner I agree that unlimited renters is not ideal however that is something that needs to be changed here by enacting a "rental cap". I however am a renter encountering bad owners that are letting their dogs run loose as they chase & charge at us growling/barking when I leave my home. And leaving their dogs outside day & night barking at everything that moves. In this scenario, I am the better neighbor!

Nick B
01-07-2022, 07:28 AM
That could be on you.

Catalina36
01-07-2022, 07:40 AM
Owners who rent their homes in The Villages should have RULES of term.

NO Daily or Weekly Rentals!!
Minimum 1 month Rentals.
Owners should be fined if tenants fail to comply with community rules.

BigSteph
01-07-2022, 10:26 AM
My wife's favorite friend since moving here was a renter. Both were sad when the rental agreement ended.


I am getting a sense when I tell my neighbors that I am renting, they disengage with me and although friendly, they seem to behave differently with the owners here, am I wrong in what I am sensing?

(I understand the sense of community between owners but...)

I also understand that renters can be an issue, however, that is not the case with me. I was an owner before I came here to test out area before purchasing, until the prices went so far up, that if I wanted to buy, I may no longer be able to afford to buy here. I am also home-bound due to illness so no parties, no noise and I maintain the property as if it were my own.

I hope I am wrong about this....

karostay
01-10-2022, 11:22 AM
I believe its a case of i have heard a few mention
Renter moves in for month 2 months we bond their rental period ends never to be seen again
During their stay tying to be friendly have neglected our full time friends
Not that your not liked its logistics Don't take it to heart

Wyseguy
01-10-2022, 12:16 PM
Every home around me are rentals, NO I don't like renters and the dogs they bring with them to trash the neighborhood and my yard. There are more rentals than year round owner homes and then there are the part time owners, not much better. Last year I has renters selling drugs across the street from me, that was scary!!!!

The Villages, off place to set up a drug shop, no? Maybe not. PerhaPS IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF DRUG. Damn caps.

JMintzer
01-10-2022, 01:10 PM
Every home around me are rentals, NO I don't like renters and the dogs they bring with them to trash the neighborhood and my yard. There are more rentals than year round owner homes and then there are the part time owners, not much better. Last year I has renters selling drugs across the street from me, that was scary!!!!

Where the heck do you live? We rented for a few months before buying and we were the only ones on the street.

Not that we've purchased, I know of only one home in the neighborhood that rents...

Oh, and what kind of drugs were they selling? Asking for a friend... :icon_wink:

Papa_lecki
01-10-2022, 08:59 PM
Where the heck do you live? We rented for a few months before buying and we were the only ones on the street.

Not that we've purchased, I know of only one home in the neighborhood that rents...

Oh, and what kind of drugs were they selling? Asking for a friend... :icon_wink:

We did the same thing, rented for a week at a time in different areas, to find where we wanted to buy. Where we own, i don’t know of any rentals. And I think we are one of few snowflakes.

pm37064
01-11-2022, 11:37 PM
We've had mostly great luck with our renters, most are like someone said, checking out the different neighborhoods before buying. I fact, my place just opened up for January and we'd love to get another nice renter into it, pm me if interested

Do you have an opening for Jan. 2023? If so, what is your price Etc.?

Thanks,
David