TV ID and Executive Golf

[ricthemic]

Today I forgot my wife's and my IDs. My fault and I know we have to show our IDs.
I asked for consideration, NO. All I had was my name on first class mail, a cart that had both our first names on it. He said no, I then offered him both our cell phones to hold until I came back after golf with the IDs. Still NO.

Do the starters have any wiggle room to allow a golfer to tee off with a promise to come right back with the proper ID? Have any of you ever been allowed to tee off on a free golf course with the trail fees paid (they know this from the sign in sheet) when you forgot your ID?
I have been playing both champion and exec courses here for over a year and I must state that prior to today every single starter, ambassador and pro shop personnel have all been great, helpful and CONSIDERATE.

For sure I will never forget our IDs again

[graciegirl]

Today I forgot my wife's and my IDs. My fault and I know we have to show our IDs.
I asked for consideration, NO. All I had was my name on first class mail, a cart that had both our first names on it. He said no, I then offered him both our cell phones to hold until I came back after golf with the IDs. Still NO.

Do the starters have any wiggle room to allow a golfer to tee off with a promise to come right back with the proper ID? Have any of you ever been allowed to tee off on a free golf course with the trail fees paid (they know this from the sign in sheet) when you forgot your ID?
I have been playing both champion and exec courses here for over a year and I must state that prior to today every single starter, ambassador and pro shop personnel have all been great, helpful and CONSIDERATE.

For sure I will never forget our IDs again

Don't feel that you are alone. They won't allow you to play without the ID. I have forgotten mine and another time our neighbor forgot hers. Both times No.

I imagine it would be difficult to be the person to have to enforce this rule. I hope they weren't rude, but they don't make the rules. I am sorry you had a bad time.

[Mallory]

I've been turned away once and my daughter was turned away when she didn't have a DL to go with her guest ID. Both times we were close enough to get home and get back with the proper credential before our tee time.

Starter wasn't rude but was firm. I have no problem with the policy.

I have seen once, however, one of our group of 8 allowed to play on one of the execs way up north. It was late in the afternoon and the course was empty. Had DL with Villages address.

[Bogie Shooter]

Today I forgot my wife's and my IDs. My fault and I know we have to show our IDs.
I asked for consideration, NO. All I had was my name on first class mail, a cart that had both our first names on it. He said no, I then offered him both our cell phones to hold until I came back after golf with the IDs. Still NO.

Do the starters have any wiggle room to allow a golfer to tee off with a promise to come right back with the proper ID? Have any of you ever been allowed to tee off on a free golf course with the trail fees paid (they know this from the sign in sheet) when you forgot your ID?
I have been playing both champion and exec courses here for over a year and I must state that prior to today every single starter, ambassador and pro shop personnel have all been great, helpful and CONSIDERATE.

For sure I will never forget our IDs again

And none of them broke the rules.

[memason]

And none of them broke the rules.

All righty then, not breaking any rules would be the most important part.

Hmmmm.....

[clekr]

If you had followed TOTV and the Sun three or four years ago you would have seen the reason for this position by the starters. There was a problem with "ghost golfers". These were people who played two or three times a day. They signed up once with their own ID and then for additional times using neighbor's IDs who did not play golf.

[Bosoxfan]

I forgot my ID a couple weeks ago .The starter asked for my license and let me play.I was with my wife and she had her ID.I imagine the time of year might have had something to do with his leniency.

[Bryan]

The good news is that the Starters seem to be enforcing the rules firmly but politely at golf courses. The bad news is that Starters don't work at pools or rec centers to enforce the rules there. Maybe we can get the Starters to give Community Watch and Recreation Center personnel some training.

I pretty much believe rules are rules and should be enforced fairly, equitably, politely, and across the board. Yes, there are bad rules. We should change those BUT enforce them until they are changed.

[graciegirl]

The time our neighbor forgot hers she said I bet I'll be able to play because her husband had his. They said no with an "I'm sorry". They sent off the group behind in our slot and we waited while she went home and got her ID.

Just as the poster said a while back some residents who were not golfers would make tee times and folks not residents would go and play. Now they check every ID.

It is better this way.

[Pturner]

For sure I will never forget our IDs again

And that's the point. It happened to me once too; and I won't forget again (I hope).

One problem is, if they were lenient about it, IDs would be forgotten way more often, making accurate judgment calls way more difficult, making turning away the questionably IDless way more difficult and confrontational, making gaming the system-- if not non-Villagers access to free golf-- way easier!

For example...

If you had followed TOTV and the Sun three or four years ago you would have seen the reason for this position by the starters. There was a problem with "ghost golfers". These were people who played two or three times a day. They signed up once with their own ID and then for additional times using neighbor's IDs who did not play golf.

Sometimes it is frustrating when we know we are honest, we feel like we have good proof and we are inconvenienced when we believe "common sense" should have prevail. However, taking a longer term view and considering the longer-term potential pitfalls, maybe common sense did prevail. It looks something like this:

We Goofed leads to Consequence leads to Lesson Learned leads to More careful next time, resulting in better and more consistent enforcement and fairness for all. Not bad. Sometimes I wish real common sense would prevail more often.

[Ajack]

And that's the point. It happened to me once too; and I won't forget again (I hope).

One problem is, if they were lenient about it, IDs would be forgotten way more often, making accurate judgment calls way more difficult, making turning away the questionably IDless way more difficult and confrontational, making gaming the system-- if not non-Villagers access to free golf-- way easier!

For example...



Sometimes it is frustrating when we know we are honest, we feel like we have good proof and we are inconvenienced when we believe "common sense" should have prevail. However, taking a longer term view and considering the longer-term potential pitfalls, maybe common sense did prevail. It looks something like this:

We Goofed leads to Consequence leads to Lesson Learned leads to More careful next time, resulting in better and more consistent enforcement and fairness for all. Not bad. Sometimes I wish real common sense would prevail more often.

That makes alot of sense.:thumbup:

[NJblue]

I had thought the policy was to make the person pay as if they were a guest and then refund the money when they showed up with their ID. I guess I heard wrong. Good to know what the policy is. (Although I think paying along with some sort of photo ID like a driver's license and then a subsequent refund when the Villages ID is presented may be a bit friendlier and not really open to abuse.)

[dinch]

Is there such a thing as a fee for guests on the Executive Courses, or are these courses for resident ID's only?

My wife and I will be arriving next week and will have resident ID cards while we are in TV, and have two guests coming down to visit. Will they be able to play for a fee?

[BogeyBoy]

Is there such a thing as a fee for guests on the Executive Courses, or are these courses for resident ID's only?

My wife and I will be arriving next week and will have resident ID cards while we are in TV, and have two guests coming down to visit. Will they be able to play for a fee?

You will have to get your guests visitor ID cards which will allow them to use TV facilities, including playing golf (for a fee).

[dinch]

Any idea how much it will cost for guests on the exec courses?

[BogeyBoy]

Any idea how much it will cost for guests on the exec courses?

A green fee is required for guests to play golf. The fee ranges from $6.50 in the months of May through October and $10.00 from November through April. Guests are obligated to pay an additional $3.50 trail fee, unless they are walking, regardless of whether the sponsoring resident has a paid trail fee or not.

[dinch]

Thank you Bugle Boy. Lookong forward to playing lots of golf in December.

[Bogie Shooter]

Thank you Bugle Boy. Lookong forward to playing lots of golf in December.

See Golfthevillages.com good source of golfing information.

[The Great Fumar]

ALL YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS ......

NO TICKIE , NO SHIRTIE.........

they had to do something as there were so many violations of all kinds....Some people would stay up nights thinking of ways to beat the system , even manufacturing fake ID's ....Some copy their own ID's to carry in their golf bags in case they forget their real one's......this no longer works either,
May I suggest that you put a sign on your golf cart that reminds you to get your ID..........
I personally don't have this problem . Mrs. Fumar has a bull horn and yells "Don't forget your ID dummy " .... at least a think its a bull horn....

Hard of hearing fumar

[Pturner]

Thank you Bugle Boy.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Sorry, Dinch. It struck my funny bone. Welcome to TOTV and TV. Hope you enjoy every minute of your stay.
:welcome:

[chuckster]

[QUOTE=NJblue;304126]I had thought the policy was to make the person pay as if they were a guest and then refund the money when they showed up with their ID. I guess I heard wrong.

You heard correctly almost, without ID or License you will pay non-resident rates and then get a refund when showing proper ID.............this applies to the "Championship" Courses ONLY and not the "Executive" Courses.

Executive Courses require Village ID and guest pass with ID for visitors, there are no exceptions because of abuses mentioned by Fumar and others.

[Mudder]

It's not much, maybe about $7, and they can rent a pull cart for a couple of dollars. If you are going to ride you need to pick up cart at nearest country club. So pick your exec course wisely.

[Ooper]

I forgot my ID a couple weeks ago .The starter asked for my license and let me play.I was with my wife and she had her ID.I imagine the time of year might have had something to do with his leniency.

We had the same offer if we had a DL... it has the picture and the address... pretty much proves you are a resident.

[chuckster]

Not to belabor the point, but were bosox and ooper checking in at an executive or championship course? Big difference in ID requirements as I mentioned in my previous post. Hope this helps to clear up the Id issue.

[Ooper]

I was checking into an executive course down in the Southern end of TV.